Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

I would like to see the disasters as well.  It would be nice to know what
went wrong and save me in the future from doing the same thing.

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


> thank you grant that would be great we like to see pictures posted of
> peoples work, good or bad successes or failures it all makes for good
topics
> for us all to learn from
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Grant Lasson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your work. I enjoyed the ornament and also the pen.
> > Both
> > were motivational. I am trying to get some shop time before Christmas to
> > make a couple of beds for my girls. If I can get them done, I will share
> > them with the group as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Grant
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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> > Bulkeley
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

thank you grant that would be great we like to see pictures posted of 
peoples work, good or bad successes or failures it all makes for good topics 
for us all to learn from


Bill



- Original Message - 
From: "Grant Lasson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: RE: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?



Bill,

Thanks for sharing your work. I enjoyed the ornament and also the pen. 
Both

were motivational. I am trying to get some shop time before Christmas to
make a couple of beds for my girls. If I can get them done, I will share
them with the group as well.

Thanks,

Grant

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RE: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Grant Lasson]

Bill,

Thanks for sharing your work. I enjoyed the ornament and also the pen. Both
were motivational. I am trying to get some shop time before Christmas to
make a couple of beds for my girls. If I can get them done, I will share
them with the group as well.

Thanks,

Grant

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[curt george]

Wow!
Very nice work Bill!
thank you for shairing.

C.A.G.
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

If pictures are worth a thousand words then Bill's step by step pictorial is
worth 17,000 words.  Thank you Bill.

http://ornamentalmills.com/bill_bulkeley/acrylic_pen/index.html

-Tim



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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

well looks like I got lucky again just by trial and error

Bill



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From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


I can believe that, Jerry's system is nearly identical to a standard 
acrylic

buffing system with the exception of the carnauba wax as the last step.  I
would just use a clean buff as the last step.   Way cool man.

-Tim

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Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


I used the beal buffing system but stopped at the white diamond stage 
when

I

used the wax it was not as shiny so I re buffed it with the white diamond


Bill

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


>I just ran some corian and cast clear acrylic using a flat bottom bit at
> high speed and had no problems at all.  My only addition would be ready

to

> have a white Christmas, lots of flakes off of the acrylic that stick to
> everything and extremely fine power with the Corian.  Have a shop vac
> handy
> to cut down on the dust and maybe even some anti static spray to make

the

> chips from the acrylic from sticking.
>
> Bill, it almost looks like you got away with just a cotton buff wheel.
> Did
> you use any compounds?
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "SteveEJ" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> 

> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>
> Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
> speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
> days!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> On Dec 5, 8:08 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

I can believe that, Jerry's system is nearly identical to a standard acrylic
buffing system with the exception of the carnauba wax as the last step.  I
would just use a clean buff as the last step.   Way cool man.

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


> I used the beal buffing system but stopped at the white diamond stage when
I
> used the wax it was not as shiny so I re buffed it with the white diamond
>
>
> Bill
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>
> >I just ran some corian and cast clear acrylic using a flat bottom bit at
> > high speed and had no problems at all.  My only addition would be ready
to
> > have a white Christmas, lots of flakes off of the acrylic that stick to
> > everything and extremely fine power with the Corian.  Have a shop vac
> > handy
> > to cut down on the dust and maybe even some anti static spray to make
the
> > chips from the acrylic from sticking.
> >
> > Bill, it almost looks like you got away with just a cotton buff wheel.
> > Did
> > you use any compounds?
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
> >
> >
> > Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
> > speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
> > days!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Dec 5, 8:08 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> >> ABCD0045.JPG
> >> 147KViewDownload
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

I used the beal buffing system but stopped at the white diamond stage when I 
used the wax it was not as shiny so I re buffed it with the white diamond



Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?



I just ran some corian and cast clear acrylic using a flat bottom bit at
high speed and had no problems at all.  My only addition would be ready to
have a white Christmas, lots of flakes off of the acrylic that stick to
everything and extremely fine power with the Corian.  Have a shop vac 
handy

to cut down on the dust and maybe even some anti static spray to make the
chips from the acrylic from sticking.

Bill, it almost looks like you got away with just a cotton buff wheel. 
Did

you use any compounds?

-Tim

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From: "SteveEJ" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
days!

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 5, 8:08 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

no I just guessed the speeds full speed of the router for the rope bit and 1 
speed slower for the turning bit

Bill

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To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
days!

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

Hello Greg,

Well consider this an official welcome to the group message!  We are a very
visual group and would really appreciate if you could take some pictures of
your projects and show us.

-Tim

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Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Hello all,

This is my first time to send a reply to the group.

The questions that everyone has asked about milling acrylic pens are exactly
the questions that I have had.  I purchased some acrylic pen blanks and have
been afraid of  just having a melt down.  Some time ago I went to cut some
plexiglass with dull tablesaw blade and it was mostly a meltdown that got
worse as the cut went on and the heat build up more and more.  I changed to
a sharp saw blade and it went perfectly and I have always wondered if a
router bit would be basically behave the same?

Thank you all for the awesome comments etc. about all facets of the legacy
mills and projects.  So far I have only made about six pens with my 900 mill
and I am hoping to do a couple of hollow sprial candlestick holders next
week.

Thanks to all,

Happy holidays from Island Park, Idaho. (South of West Yellowstone)  Last
week we got about three feet of snow and It's beginning to look a lot like
Christmas now!

Greg Walker
gregle...@netzero.net
208-709-4398


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From: SteveEJ 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:51:54 -0800 (PST)

I agree with Tim concerning using epoxy rather than CA. Better bond
that is more flexible than CA. It would also handle the heat in a
different and better way than CA.

After turning many Acrylic pens on a lathe I have learned that being
careful with cut depth and pressure on the material is very important!
With that in mind I think I will use very sharp bits, very shallow
cuts and medium feed speeds. To reduce the heat and chipout of the
material I would rather reduce the cut depth and speed up the feed
rate. With acrylics it is important to remember that the material is
the boss. Take what it will give you and you have a better chance of
success. I have been turning at 3000 rpm on my lathe and had the
material cut like butter with a hot knife then all the sudden have a
different feel because of a density change requiring a different
pressure on the chisel. Picky stuff!

I will let you know how it turns out..

Steve

On Dec 5, 7:26 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different
materials
> together I would still use epoxy. I've had more failures using medium CA
> than I have had with epoxy. Your mileage may vary.
>
> I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a "Pen Makers" CA glue
> which is flexible. Personally I've never seen this before. Also I think
> his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive. Again personal opinion.
>
> Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on
the
> Legacy this year?
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA
glue
> > for gluing in the brass tube.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
> > I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
> > Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
> > as well as his buffing system
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> > Its amazing what you can find on the net.
> > I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
> > This stuff is pretty good TOO. ;-)
>
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
> router
> > > speeds to avoid melting the acrylic. Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
> CA
> > > will not hold in my experience.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"

> > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > Tim,
> > > I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
> > > you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
> > > brittleness of the material. One additional thoug

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

I just ran some corian and cast clear acrylic using a flat bottom bit at
high speed and had no problems at all.  My only addition would be ready to
have a white Christmas, lots of flakes off of the acrylic that stick to
everything and extremely fine power with the Corian.  Have a shop vac handy
to cut down on the dust and maybe even some anti static spray to make the
chips from the acrylic from sticking.

Bill, it almost looks like you got away with just a cotton buff wheel.  Did
you use any compounds?

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
days!

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[SteveEJ]

Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
days!

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[gregle...@netzero.net]

Hello all,

This is my first time to send a reply to the group. 

The questions that everyone has asked about milling acrylic pens are exactly 
the questions that I have had.  I purchased some acrylic pen blanks and have 
been afraid of  just having a melt down.  Some time ago I went to cut some 
plexiglass with dull tablesaw blade and it was mostly a meltdown that got worse 
as the cut went on and the heat build up more and more.  I changed to a sharp 
saw blade and it went perfectly and I have always wondered if a router bit 
would be basically behave the same?

Thank you all for the awesome comments etc. about all facets of the legacy 
mills and projects.  So far I have only made about six pens with my 900 mill 
and I am hoping to do a couple of hollow sprial candlestick holders next week.

Thanks to all,

Happy holidays from Island Park, Idaho. (South of West Yellowstone)  Last week 
we got about three feet of snow and It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas 
now!

Greg Walker
gregle...@netzero.net
208-709-4398


-- Original Message --
From: SteveEJ 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:51:54 -0800 (PST)

I agree with Tim concerning using epoxy rather than CA. Better bond
that is more flexible than CA. It would also handle the heat in a
different and better way than CA.

After turning many Acrylic pens on a lathe I have learned that being
careful with cut depth and pressure on the material is very important!
With that in mind I think I will use very sharp bits, very shallow
cuts and medium feed speeds. To reduce the heat and chipout of the
material I would rather reduce the cut depth and speed up the feed
rate. With acrylics it is important to remember that the material is
the boss. Take what it will give you and you have a better chance of
success. I have been turning at 3000 rpm on my lathe and had the
material cut like butter with a hot knife then all the sudden have a
different feel because of a density change requiring a different
pressure on the chisel. Picky stuff!

I will let you know how it turns out..

Steve

On Dec 5, 7:26 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different materials
> together I would still use epoxy.  I've had more failures using medium CA
> than I have had with epoxy.  Your mileage may vary.
>
> I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a "Pen Makers" CA glue
> which is flexible.  Personally I've never seen this before.   Also I think
> his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive.  Again personal opinion.
>
> Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on the
> Legacy this year?
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA glue
> > for gluing in the brass tube.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
> > I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
> > Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
> > as well as his buffing system
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> > Its amazing what you can find on the net.
> > I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
> > This stuff is pretty good TOO.  ;-)
>
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
> router
> > > speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
> CA
> > > will not hold in my experience.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > Tim,
> > > I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
> > > you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
> > > brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
> > > use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
> > > would stabilize the glue up better.
>
> > > Bill,
> > > Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > > On Dec 5, 4:25

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

I feel like going out in the shop and cutting a piece of square Corian into
a round dowel in one pass just to see how much the material would complain.

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


I agree with Tim concerning using epoxy rather than CA. Better bond
that is more flexible than CA. It would also handle the heat in a
different and better way than CA.

After turning many Acrylic pens on a lathe I have learned that being
careful with cut depth and pressure on the material is very important!
With that in mind I think I will use very sharp bits, very shallow
cuts and medium feed speeds. To reduce the heat and chipout of the
material I would rather reduce the cut depth and speed up the feed
rate. With acrylics it is important to remember that the material is
the boss. Take what it will give you and you have a better chance of
success. I have been turning at 3000 rpm on my lathe and had the
material cut like butter with a hot knife then all the sudden have a
different feel because of a density change requiring a different
pressure on the chisel. Picky stuff!

I will let you know how it turns out..

Steve

On Dec 5, 7:26 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different
materials
> together I would still use epoxy. I've had more failures using medium CA
> than I have had with epoxy. Your mileage may vary.
>
> I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a "Pen Makers" CA glue
> which is flexible. Personally I've never seen this before. Also I think
> his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive. Again personal opinion.
>
> Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on
the
> Legacy this year?
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA
glue
> > for gluing in the brass tube.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
> > I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
> > Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
> > as well as his buffing system
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> > Its amazing what you can find on the net.
> > I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
> > This stuff is pretty good TOO. ;-)
>
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
> router
> > > speeds to avoid melting the acrylic. Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
> CA
> > > will not hold in my experience.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"

> > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > Tim,
> > > I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
> > > you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
> > > brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
> > > use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
> > > would stabilize the glue up better.
>
> > > Bill,
> > > Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > > On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
> > >> I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral.
Acrylics
> > >> are
> > >> brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
> > >> hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a
challenge.
> I
> > >> might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
> > >> grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by
> Bealls
> > >> polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my
> > > Legacy
> > >> 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
> > >> On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley" 
wrote:
>
> > >> > Hi Steve
> > >> > when I did a acrylic pen it was just 

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[SteveEJ]

I agree with Tim concerning using epoxy rather than CA. Better bond
that is more flexible than CA. It would also handle the heat in a
different and better way than CA.

After turning many Acrylic pens on a lathe I have learned that being
careful with cut depth and pressure on the material is very important!
With that in mind I think I will use very sharp bits, very shallow
cuts and medium feed speeds. To reduce the heat and chipout of the
material I would rather reduce the cut depth and speed up the feed
rate. With acrylics it is important to remember that the material is
the boss. Take what it will give you and you have a better chance of
success. I have been turning at 3000 rpm on my lathe and had the
material cut like butter with a hot knife then all the sudden have a
different feel because of a density change requiring a different
pressure on the chisel. Picky stuff!

I will let you know how it turns out..

Steve

On Dec 5, 7:26 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different materials
> together I would still use epoxy.  I've had more failures using medium CA
> than I have had with epoxy.  Your mileage may vary.
>
> I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a "Pen Makers" CA glue
> which is flexible.  Personally I've never seen this before.   Also I think
> his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive.  Again personal opinion.
>
> Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on the
> Legacy this year?
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA glue
> > for gluing in the brass tube.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
> > I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
> > Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
> > as well as his buffing system
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> > Its amazing what you can find on the net.
> > I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
> > This stuff is pretty good TOO.  ;-)
>
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
> router
> > > speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
> CA
> > > will not hold in my experience.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > > Tim,
> > > I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
> > > you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
> > > brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
> > > use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
> > > would stabilize the glue up better.
>
> > > Bill,
> > > Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > > On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
> > >> I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics
> > >> are
> > >> brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
> > >> hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge.
> I
> > >> might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
> > >> grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by
> Bealls
> > >> polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my
> > > Legacy
> > >> 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
> > >> On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>
> > >> > Hi Steve
> > >> > when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did
> > >> > on
> > > a
> > >> > legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> > >> > I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> > >> > I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
> > >> spiral
> >

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different materials
together I would still use epoxy.  I've had more failures using medium CA
than I have had with epoxy.  Your mileage may vary.

I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a "Pen Makers" CA glue
which is flexible.  Personally I've never seen this before.   Also I think
his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive.  Again personal opinion.

Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on the
Legacy this year?

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "curt george" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


> Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA glue
> for gluing in the brass tube.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
> I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
> Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
> as well as his buffing system
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> Its amazing what you can find on the net.
> I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
> This stuff is pretty good TOO.  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>
> > I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
router
> > speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
CA
> > will not hold in my experience.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message - 
> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> > I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
> > you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
> > brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
> > use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
> > would stabilize the glue up better.
> >
> > Bill,
> > Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
> >> I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics
> >> are
> >> brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
> >> hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge.
I
> >> might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
> >> grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by
Bealls
> >> polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my
> > Legacy
> >> 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
> >> On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Steve
> >> > when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did
> >> > on
> > a
> >> > legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> >> > I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> >> > I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
> >> spiral
> >> > rope pitch with the router on full speed
> >> > the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
> >> > but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the
> > shop
> >> in
> >> > a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so
> > good
> >> > or bad you guys will know how it goes
> >>
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> >> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> >> > 
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
> >>
> >> > Bill,
> >> > Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
> >> > How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
> >> > acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
> >> > experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
> >> > them?
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >>

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[curt george]

Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA glue 
for gluing in the brass tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQ&feature=related
I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
as well as his buffing system 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Its amazing what you can find on the net.
I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but??? 
This stuff is pretty good TOO.  ;-)


C.A.G.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?



I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium router
speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.  CA
will not hold in my experience.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Tim,
I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
would stabilize the glue up better.

Bill,
Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.

Steve

On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics 
are

brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge. I
might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by Bealls
polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my

Legacy

1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:





> Hi Steve
> when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did 
> on

a

> legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
spiral
> rope pitch with the router on full speed
> the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
> but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the

shop

in
> a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so

good

> or bad you guys will know how it goes

> Bill

> - Original Message -
> From: "SteveEJ" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> 

> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

> Bill,
> Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
> How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
> acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
> experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
> them?

> Thanks,

> Steve

> On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>> I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work

OK

>> just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as
>> birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2

off
>> line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my 
>> Christmas

>> ornament posting
>> Bill

>> - Original Message -
>> From: curt george
>> To: Legacy Google group
>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

>> Hello everyone.
>> Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the
>> point.

>> I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then
>> finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do

things
>> like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but 
>> I've

>> not tried making any kind of pens before.
>> Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made
>> anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?

>> I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
>> Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
>> thanks in advance Everyone.
>> Gota go!

>> C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium router
speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.  CA
will not hold in my experience.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Tim,
 I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
would stabilize the glue up better.

Bill,
 Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.

Steve

On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
> I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics are
> brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
> hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge. I
> might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
> grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by Bealls
> polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my
Legacy
> 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
> On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Steve
> > when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did on
a
> > legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> > I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> > I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
> spiral
> > rope pitch with the router on full speed
> > the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
> > but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the
shop
> in
> > a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so
good
> > or bad you guys will know how it goes
>
> > Bill
>
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Bill,
> > Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
> > How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
> > acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
> > experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
> > them?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Steve
>
> > On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> >> I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work
OK
> >> just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as
> >> birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2
off
> >> line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas
> >> ornament posting
> >> Bill
>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: curt george
> >> To: Legacy Google group
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
> >> Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> >> Hello everyone.
> >> Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the
> >> point.
>
> >> I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then
> >> finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do
things
> >> like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've
> >> not tried making any kind of pens before.
> >> Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made
> >> anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> >> I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
> >> Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
> >> thanks in advance Everyone.
> >> Gota go!
>
> >> C.A.G.
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[SteveEJ]

Tim,
 I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
would stabilize the glue up better.

Bill,
 Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.

Steve

On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf  wrote:
> I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics are
> brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
> hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge. I
> might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
> grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by Bealls
> polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my Legacy
> 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
> On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Steve
> > when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did on a
> > legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> > I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> > I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
> spiral
> > rope pitch with the router on full speed
> > the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
> > but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the shop
> in
> > a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so good
> > or bad you guys will know how it goes
>
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> > Bill,
> > Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
> > How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
> > acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
> > experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
> > them?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Steve
>
> > On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> >> I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK
> >> just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as
> >> birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off
> >> line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas
> >> ornament posting
> >> Bill
>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: curt george
> >> To: Legacy Google group
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
> >> Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> >> Hello everyone.
> >> Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the
> >> point.
>
> >> I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then
> >> finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things
> >> like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've
> >> not tried making any kind of pens before.
> >> Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made
> >> anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?
>
> >> I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
> >> Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
> >> thanks in advance Everyone.
> >> Gota go!
>
> >> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Craig Knouf]

I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics are
brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge. I
might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by Bealls
polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my Legacy
1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Hi Steve
> when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did on a

> legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
> I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
> I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
spiral
> rope pitch with the router on full speed
> the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
> but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the shop
in
> a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so good

> or bad you guys will know how it goes
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "SteveEJ" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>
> Bill,
> Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
> How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
> acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
> experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
> them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>> I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK

>> just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as
>> birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off
>> line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas
>> ornament posting
>> Bill
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: curt george
>> To: Legacy Google group
>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>> Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the
>> point.
>>
>> I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then
>> finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things
>> like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've
>> not tried making any kind of pens before.
>> Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made
>> anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?
>>
>> I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
>> Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
>> thanks in advance Everyone.
>> Gota go!
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

Hi Steve
when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did on a 
legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do

I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3 spiral 
rope pitch with the router on full speed

the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the shop in 
a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so good 
or bad you guys will know how it goes


Bill



- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Bill,
 Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
them?

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK 
just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as 
birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off 
line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas 
ornament posting

Bill

- Original Message -
From: curt george
To: Legacy Google group
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

Hello everyone.
Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the 
point.


I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things 
like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've 
not tried making any kind of pens before.
Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made 
anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?


I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
thanks in advance Everyone.
Gota go!

C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[curt george]

Hello Everyone.
I found this on a pen making web site. 
http://content.penturners.org/articles/2009/The_Acrylic_Revolution.pdf
I dose not answer a lot of questions on this topic but It is a good starting 
point.

I was not aware of how many pen turning web sites there are out there.
I will keep looking for the answers we all are looking for. But perhaps we 
should all go out there (like Bill did.) and try using this stuff for our 
self's? and after we do that, then perhaps we can also try making your own 
blanks out of Acrylic, for other jobs that we are planning to do. Who knows? 
This just might become an interesting topic, that we all can learn from.

talk to you all latter.
C.A.G.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Krause" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?



Hi Bill,

Assuming you made a three start rope twist on your acrylic pen did you 
start

out by rounding the material and then roping or did you just take three
passes from square stock.  I would love to hear what it takes to get a 
good

finish on acrylic coming off the legacy as well.

Hi Steve,

If the acrylic does not melt from the router bit I would think you would 
be

able to take the pen over to a buffing wheel and use the standard buffing
procedure for acrylic sheet.  You would go through multiple stages of
buffing with different rubbing compounds.  I would hate to think we would
have to wet sand a rope profile to clean off the chatter marks possibly 
left
by the router bit!  On a round part wet sanding would not be a problem 
since

it can be done on the lathe.


-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Bill,
 Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
them?

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Tim Krause]

Hi Bill,

Assuming you made a three start rope twist on your acrylic pen did you start
out by rounding the material and then roping or did you just take three
passes from square stock.  I would love to hear what it takes to get a good
finish on acrylic coming off the legacy as well.

Hi Steve,

If the acrylic does not melt from the router bit I would think you would be
able to take the pen over to a buffing wheel and use the standard buffing
procedure for acrylic sheet.  You would go through multiple stages of
buffing with different rubbing compounds.  I would hate to think we would
have to wet sand a rope profile to clean off the chatter marks possibly left
by the router bit!  On a round part wet sanding would not be a problem since
it can be done on the lathe.


-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "SteveEJ" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Bill,
  Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
them?

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[SteveEJ]

Bill,
  Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
them?

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK 
> just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as birthday 
> gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off line seeing 
> as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas ornament posting
> Bill
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: curt george
>   To: Legacy Google group
>   Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
>   Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>   Hello everyone.
>   Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the 
> point.
>
>   I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
> finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
> that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
> making any kind of pens before.
>   Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made anything 
> out of acrylics on the Legacy?
>
>   I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
>   Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
>   thanks in advance Everyone.
>   Gota go!
>
>   C.A.G.
>
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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

thank you I just wish others would start posting more projects good or bad 
sharing is learning,  we all are better for it. why is it out of the many many 
people of this group only so very few bother to hit the reply button and post 
its easy are you all men or wimps out there, no one is going bag you or your   
work how the hell else are we all to learn and improve, many heads can create 
great things if you just hit the reply button and post. I knew nothing on how 
to use these machines till I found this sight and started asking questions.

Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: curt george 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


  "Well There"
  Thank you Bill. 
  If you say it works, then just maybe I can do something with it besides 
makeing a pens? The only thing that Ive ever done with acrlic was to make a 
fishing lure from a Rockler pen blank, I think it worked out ok, but sadly the 
fish didnt think so. ;-(. Perhaps I can do something else with this stuff This 
year?
  I find it hard to belive that so very few people responded to your Christmas 
ornament , I realy belive it was an outstanding job! and the step by step 
photo's of how you did it, was a very nice touch. I would not have thought of 
doing that.
  So I thank you. 
  Again. :-)

  Have your self a good evening.

  C.A.G.






  - Original Message - 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:48 PM
    Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK 
just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as birthday 
gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off line seeing as 
you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas ornament posting
Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: curt george 
  To: Legacy Google group 
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


  Hello everyone.
  Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the 
point.

  I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
making any kind of pens before.
  Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made 
anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?

  I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
  Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
  thanks in advance Everyone.
  Gota go!

  C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[curt george]

"Well There"
Thank you Bill. 
If you say it works, then just maybe I can do something with it besides makeing 
a pens? The only thing that Ive ever done with acrlic was to make a fishing 
lure from a Rockler pen blank, I think it worked out ok, but sadly the fish 
didnt think so. ;-(. Perhaps I can do something else with this stuff This year?
I find it hard to belive that so very few people responded to your Christmas 
ornament , I realy belive it was an outstanding job! and the step by step 
photo's of how you did it, was a very nice touch. I would not have thought of 
doing that.
So I thank you. 
Again. :-)

Have your self a good evening.

C.A.G.






- Original Message - 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


  I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK 
just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as birthday 
gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off line seeing as 
you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas ornament posting
  Bill
- Original Message - 
From: curt george 
To: Legacy Google group 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


Hello everyone.
Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the 
point.

I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
making any kind of pens before.
Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made anything 
out of acrylics on the Legacy?

I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
thanks in advance Everyone.
Gota go!

C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[Bill Bulkeley]

I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK just 
like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as birthday gifts 
but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off line seeing as you 
were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas ornament posting
Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: curt george 
  To: Legacy Google group 
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?


  Hello everyone.
  Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the point.

  I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
making any kind of pens before.
  Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made anything 
out of acrylics on the Legacy?

  I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
  Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
  thanks in advance Everyone.
  Gota go!

  C.A.G.

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Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

[curt george]

Hello everyone.
Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the point.

I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
making any kind of pens before.
Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made anything out 
of acrylics on the Legacy?

I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
thanks in advance Everyone.
Gota go!

C.A.G.

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