RE: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-26 Thread bulkeley 
Ok mac my comment on larger work is based on assumption as I have not seen a 
2000 mill 

The mill being bigger the rails should be wider apart and there for larger dia 
work would fit higher in between the rails

And there for raising the cross slide would let you mill this. Now I didn’t 
give this much thought at all it was just my first thought on why anyone would 
raise the cross slide higher if you can think of any other reason let me know. 
And I wasn’t interested enough to look up the specs on the 2000 and work it out.

As for ebay I believe you pay the listing fees out of your profit after the 
item sells if it doesn’t you don’t pay but I could be wrong on this one at 
least that’s how it went for me when I listed a item a few years ago..

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2019 1:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: big 1800 for sale

 

Hello Curtis, Bill & others,

 

I attempted to reply to Bill's earlier comments regarding this BIG Mill.  I 
never saw my post show up  - so thought I'd try to Reply here and share what I 
wrote.  It's just my "2 cents' worth" - but here it is: 

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That Mill has been the subject of discussions here for the past year and a 
half.  The person posting it has been very elusive when questioned.  In fact, 
I'm not sure any Member has ever engaged the owner in a dialog.  I'm not sure 
that it is even really for sale.  Must be costing the "lister" some money - not 
sure how posting items for sale on eBay is priced.  It currently has 30 
"Watchers".   I'll bet at least half are curiosity "watchers" from our Group.  
I am one of them - and have been on & off for over a year.

 

For such a BIG and expensive machine, their listing is pathetic.  They have 
only one photo and the "description" is about as minimal as one could write.  
If I had something that "valuable" I'd have lots of photos (minimum of 10), 
including a close-up or two and at least a paragraph of descriptive info.

 

A technical question - in response to Bill's observation regarding the Y-Axis 
gantry:  How will raising it enable turning a larger diameter piece of stock.  
It is my assumption that the max diameter is limited by the space between the 
X-Axis outer rails and the inner rails when dropped to their lowest position.  
Raising the height of the Y-Axis gantry will not enlarge that "rectangular 
space". 

 

If there is a Group Member that lives near to the mill's location (or one 
traveling near it) we'd probably all appreciate them stopping by and calling 
the lister's bluff - paying a visit and seeing it in person - then letting us 
all know how the visit went.  While you're there, give them some tips on how to 
post a Mill for sale on eBay.  It appears they need it.

 

Come to think of it, I think I commented over a year ago on this Mill.  I 
postulated that the owner's spouse nagged them to "get rid of it".  

Since the owner did not want to part with it - but wanted to appease their 
spouse - they posted it in the worst possible way they could (what we see 
today).  

Then they could, in good conscience, tell the spouse they had it For Sale on 
eBay.  Now they are both happy.  Owner - knowing it probably will not sell 
(especially if they don't respond to inquiries) and spouse - because it is 
listed on eBay For Sale - thinking it will one day be gone. 

 

That's my theory on this Mill in Gardena, California.

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Jul 26, 2019 9:06 AM 
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Subject: Re: big 1800 for sale 

Hello Roger.

the x 4 gear sets were originally made for this Legacy.and then latter adapted 
to fit other units.

Like I said earlier, if the gears are missing, And Legacy will not make any 
more, then the machine is worth only the price of the scrap metal.

For  me the price is to expensive to find out. (as I also posted earlier, the 
owner has not even replied to my questions about this machine I e-mailed him 
about,). 

 

SAD but True, sometimes the Yankee trader motto comes to mind, "Beyer Beware". 
(If it sounds to good to be true, it normally is! )

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, July 26, 2019, 05:53:57 AM EDT, Bawdsey64 mailto:rhp...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

Regarding your point about possible missing gears, from memory and having sold 
one of these machines three times I think the gear set was the 4X Set plus it 
could use the standard set. I am going back to around 2004 - 2005.

By the way I remember delivering Ray's REVO to him, it came to me when reading 
his email earlier this week.

Cheers

Roger 

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From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Received: 26/07/2019 0

Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-26 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
As Roger mentioned, the standard gears will fit this model 2000 machine... my 
last discussion with Legacy was that they were still making the standard 
gears(I purchased quite a bit at that time)... and if they are no longer making 
the standard gears, it would still be worth buying this 2000 and then buy 
another Legacy on the cheap, even if it is only for the gears and other 
parts... certainly can’t see it being worth only scrap... I would love to get 
my hands on this machine and set it up as a large capacity, rose-engine type 
ornamental mill... I haven’t abandoned that idea, just can’t knock down my 
machine to do that mod... waiting for an opportunity to get another Legacy and 
begin the process, without the pressure of having a deadline to complete it... 
anyway, this listing has been on eBay for a few years and certainly out of my 
travel range... Joe 

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Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Roger.the x 4 gear sets were originally made for this Legacy.and then 
latter adapted to fit other units.Like I said earlier, if the gears are 
missing, And Legacy will not make any more, then the machine is worth only the 
price of the scrap metal.For  me the price is to expensive to find out. (as I 
also posted earlier, the owner has not even replied to my questions about this 
machine I e-mailed him about,). 
SAD but True, sometimes the Yankee trader motto comes to mind, "Beyer Beware". 
(If it sounds to good to be true, it normally is! )
C.A.G.
On Friday, July 26, 2019, 05:53:57 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  
wrote:  
 
 
Hi Curt

Regarding your point about possible missing gears, from memory and having sold 
one of these machines three times I think the gear set was the 4X Set plus it 
could use the standard set. I am going back to around 2004 - 2005.

By the way I remember delivering Ray's REVO to him, it came to me when reading 
his email earlier this week.

Cheers

Roger 



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​From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental MillsReceived: 26/07/2019 05:24:04 
+01:00To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com​Hey Billthis model 2000 has 
been on the market for a LONG time.I contacted the owner twice. asking question 
on if they have all the gears.He never replied.
It was an awesome machine. The guy doesn't know what he has, If any of the 
gears are missing this machine would only be worth scrap metal prices... 
Granted the price is good, but shipping for the West coast and all the 
un-known's. I personalty do not believe its worth the chance you would be 
taking, if you bought it...
C.A.G.  
On Thursday, July 25, 2019, 11:27:59 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe

 

Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross 
slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a 
very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is

 

Bill​


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Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-26 Thread Bawdsey64 
Hi Curt
Regarding your point about possible missing gears, from memory and having sold 
one of these machines three times I think the gear set was the 4X Set plus it 
could use the standard set. I am going back to around 2004 - 2005.
By the way I remember delivering Ray's REVO to him, it came to me when reading 
his email earlier this week.
Cheers
Roger






From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Received: 26/07/2019 05:24:04 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Hey Bill
this model 2000 has been on the market for a LONG time.
I contacted the owner twice. asking question on if they have all the gears.
He never replied.

It was an awesome machine. The guy doesn't know what he has, If any of the 
gears are missing this machine would only be worth scrap metal prices... 
Granted the price is good, but shipping for the West coast and all the 
un-known's. I personalty do not believe its worth the chance you would be 
taking, if you bought it...

C.A.G.  

On Thursday, July 25, 2019, 11:27:59 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe
 
[https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe]
 
Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross 
slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a 
very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is
 
Bill

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RE: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-26 Thread bulkeley 
I agree curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 26 July 2019 2:24 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: big 1800 for sale

 

Hey Bill

this model 2000 has been on the market for a LONG time.

I contacted the owner twice. asking question on if they have all the gears.

He never replied.

 

It was an awesome machine. The guy doesn't know what he has, If any of the 
gears are missing this machine would only be worth scrap metal prices... 
Granted the price is good, but shipping for the West coast and all the 
un-known's. I personalty do not believe its worth the chance you would be 
taking, if you bought it...

 

C.A.G.  

 

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe

 

Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross 
slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a 
very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is

 

Bill

 


 
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Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hey Billthis model 2000 has been on the market for a LONG time.I contacted the 
owner twice. asking question on if they have all the gears.He never replied.
It was an awesome machine. The guy doesn't know what he has, If any of the 
gears are missing this machine would only be worth scrap metal prices... 
Granted the price is good, but shipping for the West coast and all the 
un-known's. I personalty do not believe its worth the chance you would be 
taking, if you bought it...
C.A.G.  
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe

  

Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross 
slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a 
very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is

  

Bill


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Re: BIG 1800 for sale? - Gardena, California

2019-07-25 Thread MWF 
Bill & others,That Mill has been the subject of discussions here for the past year and a half.  The person posting it has been very elusive when questioned.  In fact, I'm not sure any Member has ever engaged the owner in a dialog.  I'm not sure that it is even really for sale.  Must be costing the "lister" some money - not sure how posting items for sale on eBay is priced.  It currently has 30 "Watchers".   I'll bet at least half are curiosity "watchers" from our Group.  I am one of them - and have been on & off for over a year.For such a BIG and expensive machine, their listing is pathetic.  They have only one photo and the "description" is about as minimal as one could write.  If I had something that "valuable" I'd have lots of photos (minimum of 10), including a close-up or two and at least a paragraph of descriptive info.A technical question - in response to Bill's observation regarding the Y-Axis gantry:  How will raising it enable turning a larger diameter piece of stock.  It is my assumption that the max diameter is limited by the space between the X-Axis outer rails and the inner rails when dropped to their lowest position.  Raising the height of the Y-Axis gantry will not enlarge that "rectangular space". If there is a Group Member that lives near to the mill's location (or one traveling near it) we'd probably all appreciate them stopping by and calling the lister's bluff - paying a visit and seeing it in person - then letting us all know how the visit went.  While you're there, give them some tips on how to post a Mill for sale on eBay.  It appears they need it.Come to think of it, I think I commented over a year ago on this Mill.  I postulated that the owner's spouse nagged them to "get rid of it".  Since the owner did not want to part with it - but wanted to appease their spouse - they posted it in the worst possible way they could (what we see today).  Then they could, in good conscience, tell the spouse they had it For Sale on eBay.  Now they are both happy.  Owner - knowing it probably will not sell (especially if they don't respond to inquiries) and spouse - because it is listed on eBay For Sale - thinking it will one day be gone. That's my theory on this Mill in Gardena, California.Mac-Original Message-
From: Dexter Bland 
Sent: Jul 25, 2019 5:11 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: big 1800 for sale

Looking on the history archive page, this unit looks like a 2000 model instead of 1800. Maybe they don't know what they really have?On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-5, aussiman wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/162842013290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is Bill




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Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-25 Thread Dexter Bland 
Looking on the history archive page, this unit looks like a 2000 model 
instead of 1800. Maybe they don't know what they really have?

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> Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the 
> cross slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume 
> accommodate a very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it 
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Re: big 1800 for sale

2019-07-25 Thread Brafield Bodger 
wow - I wish!!


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> Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the 
> cross slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume 
> accommodate a very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it 
> is
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big 1800 for sale

2019-07-25 Thread bulkeley 
 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-CNC-Ornamental-wood-working-machine/16284201
3290?hash=item25ea23ee6a:g:LxYAAOSwM~taU~Pe

 

Big old girl here looks like its done some really large jobs I see the cross
slide has been raised higher with some rail pieces to I assume accommodate a
very large dia job. Anyone looking for a monster mill here it is

 

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