Re: pens on the mill
Been planning to, but have not yet. In the case you mention, I would use double sided tape or a couple drops of glue and hold two pieces of wood together. Then turn the column and split the two. Holding the small parts can be done using a 4 jaw chuck on one end. The other end I would make a cup chuck from waste to hold the part. I think the tailstock would split the two halves otherwise. -Tim - Original Message - From: "Cole Andrews" To: "Legacy group" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > Tim, while. You are talking small scale have you tried to make any real small Columns. I have been trying to visualize some small half columns (flat on the back) .I don't think our pilaster dogs can get real small . > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Tim Krause" > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:59:30 > To: > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > I've spent some time over in a few pen turners forums, and I think the > potential of the legacy equipment has not really been tapped. No pressure, > but I hope you can push the limits. I'm looking forward to seeing what > people can do on a small scale. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Dang.. It has been a long time. Way too much traveling for work and > not enough time at home. That makes home time - catch up time for > honey do's. > > I have made quite a few pens on a lathe so the Revo will be my > specialty pen tool. I will keep the group advised and take some > pictures. > > Steve > > On Jun 15, 1:42 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > > Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked > and > > I just recalled what he said. You've been waiting a long time to make some > > pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be! If not, I'd love to hear > > about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group. > > > > -Tim > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "SteveEJ" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that > > Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo > > pen video at Legacy as well. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > > > Steve > > > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > > > Just curious? > > > C.A.G. > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: SteveEJ > > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > > > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > > > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > > > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > > > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Steve > > > > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre > > towards > > > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with > > the > > > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the > > finish > > > > away > > > > when doing the spirals anyway > > > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Tim Krause" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for > > making > > > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more > > details. > > > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwouldwork > > great > > > > > if you had a
Re: pens on the mill
Tim, while. You are talking small scale have you tried to make any real small Columns. I have been trying to visualize some small half columns (flat on the back) .I don't think our pilaster dogs can get real small . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Tim Krause" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:59:30 To: Subject: Re: pens on the mill I've spent some time over in a few pen turners forums, and I think the potential of the legacy equipment has not really been tapped. No pressure, but I hope you can push the limits. I'm looking forward to seeing what people can do on a small scale. -Tim - Original Message - From: "SteveEJ" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Dang.. It has been a long time. Way too much traveling for work and not enough time at home. That makes home time - catch up time for honey do's. I have made quite a few pens on a lathe so the Revo will be my specialty pen tool. I will keep the group advised and take some pictures. Steve On Jun 15, 1:42 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked and > I just recalled what he said. You've been waiting a long time to make some > pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be! If not, I'd love to hear > about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that > Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo > pen video at Legacy as well. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > > Steve > > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > > Just curious? > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > From: SteveEJ > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > > Cheers, > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre > towards > > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with > the > > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the > finish > > > away > > > when doing the spirals anyway > > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Tim Krause" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for > making > > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more > details. > > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwouldwork > great > > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > > -Tim > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "curt george" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > >> Good morning Cole > > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it > is > > > >> possible. > > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, > I > > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > very > > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > >> I was just
Re: pens on the mill
I've spent some time over in a few pen turners forums, and I think the potential of the legacy equipment has not really been tapped. No pressure, but I hope you can push the limits. I'm looking forward to seeing what people can do on a small scale. -Tim - Original Message - From: "SteveEJ" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Dang.. It has been a long time. Way too much traveling for work and not enough time at home. That makes home time - catch up time for honey do's. I have made quite a few pens on a lathe so the Revo will be my specialty pen tool. I will keep the group advised and take some pictures. Steve On Jun 15, 1:42 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked and > I just recalled what he said. You've been waiting a long time to make some > pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be! If not, I'd love to hear > about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that > Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo > pen video at Legacy as well. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > > Steve > > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > > Just curious? > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > From: SteveEJ > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > > Cheers, > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre > towards > > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with > the > > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the > finish > > > away > > > when doing the spirals anyway > > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Tim Krause" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for > making > > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more > details. > > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwouldwork > great > > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > > -Tim > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "curt george" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > >> Good morning Cole > > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it > is > > > >> possible. > > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, > I > > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > very > > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and > used a > > > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > > >> difference? > > > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
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Dang.. It has been a long time. Way too much traveling for work and not enough time at home. That makes home time - catch up time for honey do's. I have made quite a few pens on a lathe so the Revo will be my specialty pen tool. I will keep the group advised and take some pictures. Steve On Jun 15, 1:42 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked and > I just recalled what he said. You've been waiting a long time to make some > pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be! If not, I'd love to hear > about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that > Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo > pen video at Legacy as well. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > > Steve > > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > > Just curious? > > C.A.G. > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: SteveEJ > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > > Cheers, > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre > towards > > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with > the > > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the > finish > > > away > > > when doing the spirals anyway > > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Tim Krause" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for > making > > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more > details. > > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwouldwork > great > > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > > -Tim > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "curt george" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > >> Good morning Cole > > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it > is > > > >> possible. > > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, > I > > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > very > > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and > used a > > > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > > >> difference? > > > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > > shapes > > > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright > cut > > > > or > > > >> tappered pens. > > > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens > on > > > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > > > >> need > > > >> to
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Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked and I just recalled what he said. You've been waiting a long time to make some pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be! If not, I'd love to hear about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group. -Tim - Original Message - From: "SteveEJ" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo pen video at Legacy as well. Thanks, Steve On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > Steve > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > Just curious? > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > From: SteveEJ > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > Cheers, > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > > away > > when doing the spirals anyway > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Krause" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwould work great > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > -Tim > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "curt george" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > >> Good morning Cole > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > >> possible. > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > >> difference? > > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes > > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > > or > > >> tappered pens. > > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > > >> need > > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued > > >> onto a piece of brass. > > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some > > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > > >> have a good day. > > >> C.A.G. > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "cole" > > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > > >&g
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I believe they said it holds a Jacobs chuck like a drill. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: CURTIS GEORGE Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:11:34 To: Subject: Re: pens on the mill Steve Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. Just curious? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: SteveEJ To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: pens on the mill OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am looking forward to expanding the horizons! Cheers, Steve On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > away > when doing the spirals anyway > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Krause" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthat would work great > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > -Tim > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > >> Good morning Cole > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > >> possible. > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > >> difference? > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > or > >> tappered pens. > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > >> need > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued > >> onto a piece of brass. > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > >> have a good day. > >> C.A.G. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "cole" > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > >> > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> > much chatter from the bit. > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > >> > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > leg
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Yup.. Then you insert the mandrel rod into the chuck and tighten it down. I did the same thing with the Shop Smith so no big deal except the wait. It is WAY too hot outside now anyway. I have to finish my pool deck in the next few mornings and evenings then I am off to the mills and lathe. I was smart enough to put a window AC unit in the shop so I can work all year long.. Steve On Jun 15, 1:14 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > I believe they said it holds a Jacobs chuck like a drill. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: CURTIS GEORGE > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:11:34 > To: > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Steve > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > Just curious? > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > From: SteveEJ > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > Cheers, > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > > away > > when doing the spirals anyway > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Krause" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwould work great > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > -Tim > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "curt george" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > >> Good morning Cole > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > >> possible. > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > >> difference? > > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes > > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > > or > > >> tappered pens. > > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > > >> need > > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued > > >> onto a piece of brass. > > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some > > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > > >> have a good day. > > >> C.A.G. > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "cole" > > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > > >>
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Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo pen video at Legacy as well. Thanks, Steve On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: > Steve > Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. > Just curious? > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > From: SteveEJ > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will > order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they > still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen > spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am > looking forward to expanding the horizons! > > Cheers, > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > > away > > when doing the spirals anyway > > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Krause" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwould work great > > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > > -Tim > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "curt george" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > >> Good morning Cole > > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > >> possible. > > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > >> difference? > > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes > > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > > or > > >> tappered pens. > > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > > >> need > > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued > > >> onto a piece of brass. > > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some > > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > > >> have a good day. > > >> C.A.G. > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "cole" > > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > > >> > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > >> > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > >> > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > >> > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > >> > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > > &g
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Steve Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those. Just curious? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: SteveEJ To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: pens on the mill OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am looking forward to expanding the horizons! Cheers, Steve On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > away > when doing the spirals anyway > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Krause" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthat would work great > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > -Tim > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > >> Good morning Cole > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > >> possible. > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > >> difference? > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > or > >> tappered pens. > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > >> need > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued > >> onto a piece of brass. > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > >> have a good day. > >> C.A.G. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "cole" > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > >> > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> > much chatter from the bit. > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > >> > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > >> -- > >
Re: pens on the mill
OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am looking forward to expanding the horizons! Cheers, Steve On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards > the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom > of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the > router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish > away > when doing the spirals anyway > Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Krause" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making > > pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. > > Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard > >http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthat would work great > > if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. > > > I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger > > machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? > > > -Tim > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > >> Good morning Cole > >> I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > >> Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > >> possible. > >> I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > >> normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > >> light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > >> I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > >> smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > >> cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > >> difference? > >> At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes > >> where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut > > or > >> tappered pens. > >> On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > >> there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > >> need > >> to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > >> As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > >> lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued > >> onto a piece of brass. > >> Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some > >> more experimenting that all. ;-) > >> have a good day. > >> C.A.G. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "cole" > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > >> Subject: pens on the mill > > >> > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> > much chatter from the bit. > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > >> > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.co
Re: pens on the mill
I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish away when doing the spirals anyway Bill http://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=136 - Original Message - From: "Tim Krause" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.php that would work great if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? -Tim - Original Message - From: "curt george" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Good morning Cole I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is possible. I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut or tappered pens. On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood glued onto a piece of brass. Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take some more experimenting that all. ;-) have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: "cole" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: pens on the mill > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > much chatter from the bit. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: pens on the mill
Yea.. Funny stuff. When they were sending out golden forks and spoons I got a pack of plastic ones.. I bet I appreciate what I have more than they do! I either had to make it or save for it. Either way was good for me! Steve On Jun 14, 4:46 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > Boy isn't that ironic :-) I know a Tupper of the Tupperware fame but he > works for a living too! > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Great name for a Chuck! > > Steve Jacobs.. hehe. No, I am not a relative. I have to work for a > living! > > On Jun 14, 1:02 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > > The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck. It's the same type of > chuck > > that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8" capacity. I frequently shop > > at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks > page:http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496. The 240-2821 would be my > > first choice. > > > -Tim > > > - Original Message - > > From: "SteveEJ" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck. > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > > > I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe > > .so any lathe accessorih should fit. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: SteveEJ > > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 > > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small > > > problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck > > > that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the > > > Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to > > > have some spiral pens for this christmas. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had > > any > > > > fly to pieces > > > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no > trouble > > I > > > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and > set > > the > > > > depth stop on the router > > > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn > > them > > > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > > > Bill > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "curt george" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > > Good morning Cole > > > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember > a > > > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it > is > > > > > possible. > > > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, > I > > > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > > very > > > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and > used > > a > > > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and > try > > > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > > difference? > > > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get > different > > > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice > pens > > on > > > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks > that > > need > > > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your > machine? > > > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on > > the > > > > > lathe as
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Boy isn't that ironic :-) I know a Tupper of the Tupperware fame but he works for a living too! -Tim - Original Message - From: "SteveEJ" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Great name for a Chuck! Steve Jacobs.. hehe. No, I am not a relative. I have to work for a living! On Jun 14, 1:02 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck. It's the same type of chuck > that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8" capacity. I frequently shop > at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks page:http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496. The 240-2821 would be my > first choice. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck. > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > > I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe > .so any lathe accessorih should fit. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > -Original Message- > > From: SteveEJ > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small > > problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck > > that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the > > Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to > > have some spiral pens for this christmas. > > > Thanks, > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had > any > > > fly to pieces > > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble > I > > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set > the > > > depth stop on the router > > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn > them > > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > > Bill > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "curt george" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > Good morning Cole > > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > > possible. > > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > very > > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used > a > > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > difference? > > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens > on > > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > need > > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on > the > > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might > take > > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > > have a good day. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "cole" > > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as > well > > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also
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Great name for a Chuck! Steve Jacobs.. hehe. No, I am not a relative. I have to work for a living! On Jun 14, 1:02 pm, "Tim Krause" wrote: > The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck. It's the same type of chuck > that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8" capacity. I frequently shop > at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks > page:http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496. The 240-2821 would be my > first choice. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "SteveEJ" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck. > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > > I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe > .so any lathe accessorih should fit. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > -----Original Message- > > From: SteveEJ > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 > > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small > > problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck > > that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the > > Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to > > have some spiral pens for this christmas. > > > Thanks, > > > Steve > > > On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had > any > > > fly to pieces > > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble > I > > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set > the > > > depth stop on the router > > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn > them > > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > > Bill > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "curt george" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > Good morning Cole > > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > > possible. > > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take > very > > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used > a > > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > difference? > > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens > on > > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > need > > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on > the > > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might > take > > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > > have a good day. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "cole" > > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as > well > > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the > height > > > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > > >> we could set the height easi
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We were close to the end , near the size of the bushing. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Tim Krause" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:07:58 To: Subject: Re: pens on the mill This happened when in the middle of the cut? - Original Message - From: "Cole Andrews" To: "Legacy group" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > just on a hunch we purchased a 3/4 bottom cleaning bit and sped it up with light passes. Getting down closer to size was when it shattered.maybe a spiral bit from the side will be cleaner with less chatter. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Tim Krause" > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:20 > To: > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Hello Cole, > > I cringe when I see that video of Tracy making the pens. I think it's too > aggressive to make the cuts in three passes with the rope bit. There is > going to be a lot of chatter when cutting that deep. You might be able to > raise or lower the router speed and get better results. I agree with Bill > that you should make the stock round first and take light passes. If you're > only removing a 1/8" at a time it should limit exploding blanks. Make sure > when you are making the stock round that the wood is coming up into the > blade. In other words, using the flat bottom bit, the spindle should be > rotating counter clockwise. The other thing I can think of is make sure the > mandrel is not bending under the pressure of the tailstock. It can cause > your pen to go out of round. > > Hope that helps some, let us know how you progress. > > -Tim > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Bulkeley" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:16 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > > fly to pieces > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set > the > > depth stop on the router > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bit > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > Bill > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > > > Good morning Cole > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > possible. > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > difference? > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > need > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > have a good day. > > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "cole" > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit >
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This happened when in the middle of the cut? - Original Message - From: "Cole Andrews" To: "Legacy group" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > just on a hunch we purchased a 3/4 bottom cleaning bit and sped it up with light passes. Getting down closer to size was when it shattered.maybe a spiral bit from the side will be cleaner with less chatter. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Tim Krause" > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:20 > To: > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Hello Cole, > > I cringe when I see that video of Tracy making the pens. I think it's too > aggressive to make the cuts in three passes with the rope bit. There is > going to be a lot of chatter when cutting that deep. You might be able to > raise or lower the router speed and get better results. I agree with Bill > that you should make the stock round first and take light passes. If you're > only removing a 1/8" at a time it should limit exploding blanks. Make sure > when you are making the stock round that the wood is coming up into the > blade. In other words, using the flat bottom bit, the spindle should be > rotating counter clockwise. The other thing I can think of is make sure the > mandrel is not bending under the pressure of the tailstock. It can cause > your pen to go out of round. > > Hope that helps some, let us know how you progress. > > -Tim > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Bill Bulkeley" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:16 AM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > > fly to pieces > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set > the > > depth stop on the router > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bit > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > Bill > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > > > > Good morning Cole > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > possible. > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any > difference? > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that > need > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > have a good day. > > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "cole" > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > > >> much chatter from the bit. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message bec
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just on a hunch we purchased a 3/4 bottom cleaning bit and sped it up with light passes. Getting down closer to size was when it shattered.maybe a spiral bit from the side will be cleaner with less chatter. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Tim Krause" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:20 To: Subject: Re: pens on the mill Hello Cole, I cringe when I see that video of Tracy making the pens. I think it's too aggressive to make the cuts in three passes with the rope bit. There is going to be a lot of chatter when cutting that deep. You might be able to raise or lower the router speed and get better results. I agree with Bill that you should make the stock round first and take light passes. If you're only removing a 1/8" at a time it should limit exploding blanks. Make sure when you are making the stock round that the wood is coming up into the blade. In other words, using the flat bottom bit, the spindle should be rotating counter clockwise. The other thing I can think of is make sure the mandrel is not bending under the pressure of the tailstock. It can cause your pen to go out of round. Hope that helps some, let us know how you progress. -Tim - Original Message - From: "Bill Bulkeley" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > fly to pieces > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > depth stop on the router > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bit > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > Bill > > > - Original Message - > From: "curt george" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Good morning Cole > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > possible. > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > > From: "cole" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> much chatter from the bit. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group
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That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details. Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.php that would work great if you had a collet for the 1/8" shank bits. I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen? -Tim - Original Message - From: "curt george" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > Good morning Cole > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > possible. > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different shapes > where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut or > tappered pens. > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood glued > onto a piece of brass. > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take some > more experimenting that all. ;-) > have a good day. > C.A.G. > - Original Message ----- > From: "cole" > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > > much chatter from the bit. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: pens on the mill
Hello Cole, I cringe when I see that video of Tracy making the pens. I think it's too aggressive to make the cuts in three passes with the rope bit. There is going to be a lot of chatter when cutting that deep. You might be able to raise or lower the router speed and get better results. I agree with Bill that you should make the stock round first and take light passes. If you're only removing a 1/8" at a time it should limit exploding blanks. Make sure when you are making the stock round that the wood is coming up into the blade. In other words, using the flat bottom bit, the spindle should be rotating counter clockwise. The other thing I can think of is make sure the mandrel is not bending under the pressure of the tailstock. It can cause your pen to go out of round. Hope that helps some, let us know how you progress. -Tim - Original Message - From: "Bill Bulkeley" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > fly to pieces > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > depth stop on the router > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bit > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > Bill > > > - Original Message - > From: "curt george" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Good morning Cole > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > possible. > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > > From: "cole" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> much chatter from the bit. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you
Re: pens on the mill
The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck. It's the same type of chuck that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8" capacity. I frequently shop at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks page: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496 . The 240-2821 would be my first choice. -Tim - Original Message - From: "SteveEJ" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck. Steve On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe .so any lathe accessorih should fit. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: SteveEJ > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small > problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck > that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the > Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to > have some spiral pens for this christmas. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > > fly to pieces > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > > depth stop on the router > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > Bill > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Good morning Cole > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > possible. > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > have a good day. > > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "cole" > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > > >> much chatter from the bit. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/gro
Re: pens on the mill
Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck. Steve On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, "Cole Andrews" wrote: > I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe .so > any lathe accessorih should fit. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: SteveEJ > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 > To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small > problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck > that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the > Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to > have some spiral pens for this christmas. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > > fly to pieces > > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > > depth stop on the router > > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > > Bill > > > - Original Message - > > From: "curt george" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > > Good morning Cole > > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > > possible. > > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > > have a good day. > > > C.A.G. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "cole" > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > > Subject: pens on the mill > > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > > >> much chatter from the bit. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >
Re: pens on the mill
I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe .so any lathe accessorih should fit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: SteveEJ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: pens on the mill Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to have some spiral pens for this christmas. Thanks, Steve On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > fly to pieces > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > depth stop on the router > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "curt george" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Good morning Cole > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > possible. > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > > From: "cole" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > Subject: pens on the mill > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> much chatter from the bit. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: pens on the mill
Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to have some spiral pens for this christmas. Thanks, Steve On Jun 14, 4:16 am, "Bill Bulkeley" wrote: > I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any > fly to pieces > I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I > set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the > depth stop on the router > and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them > first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope > bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "curt george" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: pens on the mill > > > Good morning Cole > > I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a > > Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is > > possible. > > I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I > > normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very > > light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. > > I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a > > smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try > > cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? > > At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different > > shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get > > stright cut or tappered pens. > > On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on > > there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need > > to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? > > As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the > > lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood > > glued onto a piece of brass. > > Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take > > some more experimenting that all. ;-) > > have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > - Original Message - > > From: "cole" > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM > > Subject: pens on the mill > > >> We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well > >> as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height > >> of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it > >> was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit > >> we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too > >> much chatter from the bit. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: pens on the mill
I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any fly to pieces I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the depth stop on the router and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo Bill - Original Message - From: "curt george" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: pens on the mill Good morning Cole I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is possible. I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut or tappered pens. On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood glued onto a piece of brass. Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take some more experimenting that all. ;-) have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: "cole" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: pens on the mill We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too much chatter from the bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: pens on the mill
Good morning Cole I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is possible. I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very light cuts, to stop the vibration problem. I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2" or smaller router bit) and try cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference? At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright cut or tappered pens. On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine? As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood glued onto a piece of brass. Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take some more experimenting that all. ;-) have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: "cole" To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: pens on the mill We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too much chatter from the bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
pens on the mill
We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too much chatter from the bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
