Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
ronald ferguson wrote I was born in A Hospital at Fountain Street in Manchester in Lancashire in England. A small comment on that. I was born *in* a Nursing Home, but I was born *at* Don't-know-the-name Nursing Home *in* Birkenhead. Similarly, I'd say *at* 2 High Street or *in* High Street. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
Jenny, Do not disagree here, I wasn't quite clear as by A Hospital I meant Named Hospital eg. Guys Hospital rather than a hospital. The OED is, however, not withstanding John Clare's email, quite clear that one is born in Hull that is a direct quote from the usage given in my copy of the 2005 Edition - and that is modern enough for me! I still think that the organisation (whatever it was called) should find better/more constructive things to do! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:51:42 + To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations ronald ferguson wrote I was born in A Hospital at Fountain Street in Manchester in Lancashire in England. A small comment on that. I was born *in* a Nursing Home, but I was born *at* Don't-know-the-name Nursing Home *in* Birkenhead. Similarly, I'd say *at* 2 High Street or *in* High Street. -- Jenny M Benson _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Saving census images
What should one originally save a census image as ? - a .tiff file? I download a LOT of census images from HeritageQuest which offers the option of .pdf or .tif. I've downloaded the vast majority as .pdf files. Most but not all of them are in pretty readable condition. Is there anything that can be done with a .pdf file to enhance it? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: *** SPAM *** Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
If I were visiting someone who was in __ Hospital I would say I was at the hospital; if occupying a room I'd say I was in the hospital. Pat - Original Message - From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:26 AM Subject: *** SPAM *** Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Fowler (Modern English Usage) has something to say on this matter:- According to the OED at is used 'of all towns except the capital of one's own country and that in which the speaker dwells, if of any size' ... in conveys a sense of being physically within whereas at does not. Thus New College is in Oxford while the new term starts next week at Oxford. Since one is normally living at the place where one dies, in would seem reasonable, except that at would seem better for an institution such as a Hospital. John Clare Susan, I have no time for nitpicking organisations no matter how many initials they have in their name. It is not up to them to tell anybody what sort of grammar should be used in their reports. In any event I believe them to be wrong - at least as far as English English is concerned. My advice: ignore them, they might not go away but if they have nothing better to do, they should! Ron Ferguspn _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:45:39 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations I have been editing an RTF generated file (Descendants Book) from Legacy for the past month, and as I near the end, I am beginning to wonder how consistent I have been with my prepositions. Legacy's standard report is to use the preposition in - i.e. Chris was born in Boston on 1 Aug 1901. The NEHGS released their 26 Sep 2007 free newsletter, with an article Research Recommendations: Genealogical Writing: Prepositions. Their preference is for manuscripts to use the word at (except for cemeteries) although they say in is acceptible. Their example is She died at Brighton, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, 15 March 1809 and was buried at Boston in King's Chapel Burying Ground. In my manuscript, I find I only use the preposition at for the residence event descriptions (which is automatic with Legacy sentence definition) and in for the event location (which is part of the code [InPlace]). What I am now faced with is where I used places like hospitals or cemeteries in my locations list, and didn't change the prepositions. I have kept in which I think is an accurate description (you are born in a hospital, not at it). But how can I globally change the use elsewhere by Legacy of its in prepositions to at? Is there any way? Well, at least the NEHGS says if you use in to at least keep it consistent. But I wonder if the use of at is more professional, and if so, should Legacy have that option? I don't mind off-list responses with your opinions, but I don't want to start a debate on list about which preposition is best! LOL! My questions which should be addressed on list are (1) is there a way to globally change the preposition of in to at in the Locations List, and (2) can Legacy have the option to use at instead of in in its InPlace definition and locations preposition list, if that is a more professional manuscript standard. Thank you, Susan _ 100's of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Saving census images
Pat, A pdf is an Adobe propriety file and unless one has Adobe Acrobat (not Acrobat Reader) then there isn't anything that one can do with them. I have heard of some programs which may be able to, but know nothing about them. Even with Legacy one can only attach them as Video/Sound files. Hence, if you wish to change the size, for example, then you will need to download in the tif format. I don't know about Heritage Quest but these can be quite large; the size, in both pixels and KB, can be reduced by using many programs eg Irfan View which can also change it to the jpg format. These can be attached to Legacy Events as pictures. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Saving census images Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:37:44 -0500 What should one originally save a census image as ? - a .tiff file? I download a LOT of census images from HeritageQuest which offers the option of .pdf or .tif. I've downloaded the vast majority as .pdf files. Most but not all of them are in pretty readable condition. Is there anything that can be done with a .pdf file to enhance it? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Descendant report with events
I am trying to create a descendant report with (bulleted) events. But whenever I click on report options the events, notes, etc., are grayed out. I KNOW I have created this kind of report on previous occasions. Whatever am I doing wrong?? Thanks so much for your help! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Descendant report with events
Pat, I think you must be looking at Descendant Chart as distinct from Descendants or Descendant Narrative - the latter two being in the Book Reports. The Charts do not allow Events but the Reports do. To set the bullets you need to set the Events in Report OptionsInclude and then go to FormatEvents Narrative to set the bullets. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant report with events Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:43:59 -0500 I am trying to create a descendant report with (bulleted) events. But whenever I click on report options the events, notes, etc., are grayed out. I KNOW I have created this kind of report on previous occasions. Whatever am I doing wrong?? Thanks so much for your help! -- Pat _ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
I think it is the Non English and Horrible Grammar Society :) -Original Message- I still think that the organisation (whatever it was called) should find better/more constructive things to do! Ron Ferguson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: 09/11/2007 09:26 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
I would say that A Hospital is ON Fountain Street, not at Fountain Street. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Exactly, Cathy. I was born in A Hospital at Fountain Street in Manchester in Lancashire in England. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:03:39 +0900 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Hi Susan, Unless you are planning to submit to NEHGS, I wouldn't worry about it. From an Australian point of view, to use born at Dalwallinu rather than born in Dalwallinu sounds strange whereas born at Dalwallinu Hospital, born at Honeysuckle Cottage etc is more normal than using in. I live at 12 Anyname Street. I live in Perth, Western Australia. No doubt this is one of the many differences in English versions. Cathy At 05:45 AM 9/11/2007, you wrote: I have been editing an RTF generated file (Descendants Book) from Legacy for the past month, and as I near the end, I am beginning to wonder how consistent I have been with my prepositions. Legacy's standard report is to use the preposition in - i.e. Chris was born in Boston on 1 Aug 1901. The NEHGS released their 26 Sep 2007 free newsletter, with an article Research Recommendations: Genealogical Writing: Prepositions. Their preference is for manuscripts to use the word at (except for cemeteries) although they say in is acceptible. Their example is She died at Brighton, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, 15 March 1809 and was buried at Boston in King's Chapel Burying Ground. In my manuscript, I find I only use the preposition at for the residence event descriptions (which is automatic with Legacy sentence definition) and in for the event location (which is part of the code [InPlace]). What I am now faced with is where I used places like hospitals or cemeteries in my locations list, and didn't change the prepositions. I have kept in which I think is an accurate description (you are born in a hospital, not at it). But how can I globally change the use elsewhere by Legacy of its in prepositions to at? Is there any way? Well, at least the NEHGS says if you use in to at least keep it consistent. But I wonder if the use of at is more professional, and if so, should Legacy have that option? I don't mind off-list responses with your opinions, but I don't want to start a debate on list about which preposition is best! LOL! My questions which should be addressed on list are (1) is there a way to globally change the preposition of in to at in the Locations List, and (2) can Legacy have the option to use at instead of in in its InPlace definition and locations preposition list, if that is a more professional manuscript standard. Thank you, Susan _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
Ah That's what it is LOL Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:43:05 + I think it is the Non English and Horrible Grammar Society :) -Original Message- I still think that the organisation (whatever it was called) should find better/more constructive things to do! Ron Ferguson _ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
Wayne, I have no argument with that; my absolute disagreement was with at town rather than in town. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:37:36 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I would say that A Hospital is ON Fountain Street, not at Fountain Street. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Exactly, Cathy. I was born in A Hospital at Fountain Street in Manchester in Lancashire in England. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:03:39 +0900 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations Hi Susan, Unless you are planning to submit to NEHGS, I wouldn't worry about it. From an Australian point of view, to use born at Dalwallinu rather than born in Dalwallinu sounds strange whereas born at Dalwallinu Hospital, born at Honeysuckle Cottage etc is more normal than using in. I live at 12 Anyname Street. I live in Perth, Western Australia. No doubt this is one of the many differences in English versions. Cathy At 05:45 AM 9/11/2007, you wrote: I have been editing an RTF generated file (Descendants Book) from Legacy for the past month, and as I near the end, I am beginning to wonder how consistent I have been with my prepositions. Legacy's standard report is to use the preposition in - i.e. Chris was born in Boston on 1 Aug 1901. The NEHGS released their 26 Sep 2007 free newsletter, with an article Research Recommendations: Genealogical Writing: Prepositions. Their preference is for manuscripts to use the word at (except for cemeteries) although they say in is acceptible. Their example is She died at Brighton, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, 15 March 1809 and was buried at Boston in King's Chapel Burying Ground. In my manuscript, I find I only use the preposition at for the residence event descriptions (which is automatic with Legacy sentence definition) and in for the event location (which is part of the code [InPlace]). What I am now faced with is where I used places like hospitals or cemeteries in my locations list, and didn't change the prepositions. I have kept in which I think is an accurate description (you are born in a hospital, not at it). But how can I globally change the use elsewhere by Legacy of its in prepositions to at? Is there any way? Well, at least the NEHGS says if you use in to at least keep it consistent. But I wonder if the use of at is more professional, and if so, should Legacy have that option? I don't mind off-list responses with your opinions, but I don't want to start a debate on list about which preposition is best! LOL! My questions which should be addressed on list are (1) is there a way to globally change the preposition of in to at in the Locations List, and (2) can Legacy have the option to use at instead of in in its InPlace definition and locations preposition list, if that is a more professional manuscript standard. Thank you, Susan _ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Need help on reload
I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy var callCount = 0; function rmvScroll( msg ) { if ( ++callCount 10 ) { msg.style.visibility = visible; }if ( callCount msg.clientHeight ) { newHeight = msg.scrollHeight + delta; } delta = msg.offsetWidth - msg.clientWidth; delta = ( isNaN( delta )? 1 : delta + 1 ); if ( msg.scrollWidth msg.clientWidth ) { newWidth = msg.scrollWidth + delta; } msg.style.overflow = visible; msg.style.visibility = visible;if ( newWidth 0 || newHeight 0 ) { var ssxyzzy = document.getElementById( ssxyzzy ); var cssAttribs = ['#' + msg.id + '{']; if ( newWidth 0 ) cssAttribs.push( 'width:' + newWidth + 'px;' ); if ( newHeight 0 ) cssAttribs.push( ' height:' + newHeight + 'px;' ); cssAttribs.push( '}' ); try {ssxyzzy.sheet.deleteRule( 0 );ssxyzzy.sheet.insertRule( cssAttribs.join(), 0 ); } catch( e ){} } } function imgsDone( msg ) // for Firefox, we need to scan for images that haven't set their width yet { var imgList = msg.getElementsByTagName( IMG ); var len = ((imgList == null)? 0 : imgList.length); for ( var i = 0; i Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
A publisher (NEHGS in this case) can specify (and potentially enforce) their preferences for the documents they handle. The English-speaking world, unlike France, has no organization whose sole purpose is to keep the language pure. The differences between British English and other English speakers have been noted for a long time - in The Canterville Ghost (1887), Oscar Wilde wrote: `We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language´. Note that a number of people (Oscar Wilde, George Bernard Shaw, even Winston Churchill, have been credited with the divided by a common language quote about England and the US. From a US point of view, I think of at when there is an identifiable location (street address, landmark) and in when the location is more general (township, etc.). In the case of a medical event, there is a difference in whether a child is born in an ambulance (on the way to [the] hospital) or at an ambulance (waited much too long). John On 9 Nov 2007 at 13:03, Cathy wrote: Hi Susan, Unless you are planning to submit to NEHGS, I wouldn't worry about it. From an Australian point of view, to use born at Dalwallinu rather than born in Dalwallinu sounds strange whereas born at Dalwallinu Hospital, born at Honeysuckle Cottage etc is more normal than using in. I live at 12 Anyname Street. I live in Perth, Western Australia. No doubt this is one of the many differences in English versions. Cathy At 05:45 AM 9/11/2007, you wrote: I have been editing an RTF generated file (Descendants Book) from Legacy for the past month, and as I near the end, I am beginning to wonder how consistent I have been with my prepositions. Legacy's standard report is to use the preposition in - i.e. Chris was born in Boston on 1 Aug 1901. The NEHGS released their 26 Sep 2007 free newsletter, with an article Research Recommendations: Genealogical Writing: Prepositions. Their preference is for manuscripts to use the word at (except for cemeteries) although they say in is acceptible. Their example is She died at Brighton, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, 15 March 1809 and was buried at Boston in King's Chapel Burying Ground. In my manuscript, I find I only use the preposition at for the residence event descriptions (which is automatic with Legacy sentence definition) and in for the event location (which is part of the code [InPlace]). What I am now faced with is where I used places like hospitals or cemeteries in my locations list, and didn't change the prepositions. I have kept in which I think is an accurate description (you are born in a hospital, not at it). But how can I globally change the use elsewhere by Legacy of its in prepositions to at? Is there any way? Well, at least the NEHGS says if you use in to at least keep it consistent. But I wonder if the use of at is more professional, and if so, should Legacy have that option? I don't mind off-list responses with your opinions, but I don't want to start a debate on list about which preposition is best! LOL! My questions which should be addressed on list are (1) is there a way to globally change the preposition of in to at in the Locations List, and (2) can Legacy have the option to use at instead of in in its InPlace definition and locations preposition list, if that is a more professional manuscript standard. Thank you, Susan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Discussion Group?
Yes I have received it thank you. Builders in all week - ? Hope to have a look on Sunday. Once again many thanks for your time. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Daily Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 8:33 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Discussion Group? Hi Valerie, I wrote to you off list. Not sure if you got my email? Thanks, Susan On 11/6/07, Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your suggestion Susan. I keep getting into trouble about this all the time and obviously I don't get it . What would you suggest that I had entered in both place please ? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload
Oh cripe, now I am totally confused. Can I use my disc or should I go to the website ? Lucy ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy, Yes you can reload from your disc and then go to the Legacy website to update but do allow it to continue to completion or you will be no better off. As I am sure you know you do not need a password to update. If you are referring to your Delux Password you will need to go to the Help tab in your Legacy program and there should be a tab for you to click and enter it. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:26:02 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy _ Celeb spotting Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload
Hmm sorry. Thought you were getting Error 380 its showing up when the update is aborted. I see now that you didn't report that error... that's what happens when I see too many of the same messages g Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucy Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload Thanks for the quick answer and I'm s glad that I asked before putting in the disc. Went to the site you suggested but I do not have an error message number on this one The block that comes up is just headed error and the message is just that install was not completed ... So looked at all the discriptions and it is not there. Can you tell me which one I should look at.? Lucy Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy, Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message, among others. You'll have to update from our website. Just go to our home page and click on the Download menu button. It does no good to update using the CD - that can only cause worse problems. The CD should only be used for a clean install. There's a flaw with the installer right now and Ken's working to fix it. Just ignore the drop-back on the meter and let the install progress without interruption. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucy Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:26 AM To: Legacy List Server Subject: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload
Thanks for the quick answer and I'm s glad that I asked before putting in the disc. Went to the site you suggested but I do not have an error message number on this one The block that comes up is just headed error and the message is just that install was not completed ... So looked at all the discriptions and it is not there. Can you tell me which one I should look at.? Lucy Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy, Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message, among others. You'll have to update from our website. Just go to our home page and click on the Download menu button. It does no good to update using the CD - that can only cause worse problems. The CD should only be used for a clean install. There's a flaw with the installer right now and Ken's working to fix it. Just ignore the drop-back on the meter and let the install progress without interruption. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucy Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:26 AM To: Legacy List Server Subject: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] re; Filing information
Is it possible to order just the pre-numbered tab pages without ordering all the other stuff? I am in Canada - believe it or not our $ is now on par with the USA, so do I still pay in American funds? Thanks a lot! Tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload
Go to the website. That's safest and you know you'll have the latest build. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucy Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload Oh cripe, now I am totally confused. Can I use my disc or should I go to the website ? Lucy ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy, Yes you can reload from your disc and then go to the Legacy website to update but do allow it to continue to completion or you will be no better off. As I am sure you know you do not need a password to update. If you are referring to your Delux Password you will need to go to the Help tab in your Legacy program and there should be a tab for you to click and enter it. Ron Ferguson Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:26:02 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload
Lucy, As you have to upgaye anyhow it is more straighhtforward to do as Sherry suggested. The important point is to let it complete. Ron Fergusom _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:38:19 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Oh cripe, now I am totally confused. Can I use my disc or should I go to the website ? Lucy ronald ferguson wrote: Lucy, Yes you can reload from your disc and then go to the Legacy website to update but do allow it to continue to completion or you will be no better off. As I am sure you know you do not need a password to update. If you are referring to your Delux Password you will need to go to the Help tab in your Legacy program and there should be a tab for you to click and enter it. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:26:02 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Need help on reload To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I got the note to update Legacy 6 and began to run it and then had to stop it in midstream. Now when I try to open Legacy it says that I did not complete install and have to go to the website to install. It will not open. Yikes, but the link it gives me is for Legacy 5 not 6 plus it says I will need my password. Question: I have my Legacy 6 disc and my password. Can I just put in the disc and install from that, put in my password, and then go out to the Legacy site and pick up the update ? Just want to be sure that I don't screw this up totally. Lucy _ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Congratulations Kate - was RE: [LegacyUG] Uploading to Ancestry -
Congratulations Kate. How great it was to see instructions written clearly, in full, and not a reply which sent you to a web site. Please all be aware that some of us are not sitting at a computer connected to direct fast access to the internet. Also some of us are not all able to follow up on the answers to our questions straight away and as Tom said it is great to have the instructions printed ready for when he was able to get back to his problem. I remember some time ago in my life when I got agitated at people who could not think fast enough or who had trouble recalling something. I am there now and all of you will eventually get there. Some sooner than others. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 2:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uploading to Ancestry - Tom, These are the steps I took to upload the ged.com to Ancestry: ALWAYS run maintenance check repair files, and BACK-UP at least once before you start uploading and downloading. 1. I opened my family database in Legacy. I chose FileExportged.com file (ged.com 5.0 only) at this point you have to carefully select the choices for your export. The Help Index Export Ged.com Files has all of the options listed with full descriptions. Then, a menu opened asking me to name this new family file and to save it in C:\Legacy\data. 2. After that import, I opened and checked to be sure it was exactly like I wanted it to be. After you make any necessary corrections, then I export this family file choosing FileExportged.com file (ged.com 5.0 only) make sure I carefully select the choices. I save it to a folder on my desktop where I can easily find it. The suffixes will be there. 3. Login to AncestryMy AncestryUpload ged.com. When it asks for the location of the ged.com file you will know exactly where you save it on your desktop. Click on that file and Ancestry will upload it just in minutes. 4. When I have accumulated about 250 new names and information then I reverse the process and download it to my computer. 5. Import the new ged.com file to a new family file. After you have reviewed the new data file and are satisfied that it is the way you want it, then, you can merge it into the family file you created in #2. The images of the historical documents and generations you have added from Ancestry will be there. For me, I would never attempt to work with 1,000 individual names at one time. I work with smaller numbers and find them much easier to handle. This is a very cumbersome and tedious process. I would much rather be safe and sure. If I mess up a few 100 names later, I can always go back to the last good point in both the files on my computer and the files on Ancestry. When I have downloaded about 500 names, then I go through steps 1-5 again and upload a new family file to Ancestry and give it a new variation of the family name. After week or so and I am satisfied with the new family database, then, I delete the first one I put on Ancestry. I have been doing this for about 10 days and am very pleased with the progress and accuracy of what I have found and the images of documents I have attached to my files. One more thing, when I find an historical image on Ancestry that I want attached the family file on Ancestry. I also save it to my desktop computer and print out a copy of the document for my reference book. I also do the same thing for the page that you see before you view the document. It will give you all the information you need for your Master Source, detail and Citations. Hope this helps. Kate Kate Smith Redford Salem, Oregon, USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valerie Garton Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uploading to Ancestry - Could some one tell me what this is about please ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Weiss Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 5:26 AM I recently got a subscription to Ancestry.com, and uploaded my Legacy gedcom to Ancestry for research hints. It worked fine, but all of the prefixes (Captain, Sir, etc) and suffixes (Such as Jr., Sr., III) disappeared. When I download the ancestry gedcom file into Legacy, I am not sure that all of the notes from the research made it. Also, it seems I have to do a merge of every person - with over 1000 people, this is a pain. Comments on these three issues? Thanks, Tom Weisst Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
I agree that it doesn't make sense; it's a wonderful example of using a recommendation instead of common sense ;-) The phrasing for a birth event such as this would likely be on an ambulance stretcher (gurney/whatever) on the walkway in front of 135 East Main Street, not at the rear door of Medic Ambulance #138. John If you think my hyperbole is bad, you may never be ready for my puns ;-) On 9 Nov 2007 at 20:00, ronald ferguson wrote: John, Over here to be born at an ambulance would be totally incomprehensible, and I must confess that even after you have explained the meaning I still don't get it. To misquote Spike Milligan, everybody is born somewhere. If waiting for an ambulance, it might be on a pavement, in a house, in car, but it must be somewhere if it isn't in the ambulance! In fact our birth certificates have a section for the place of birth and I cannot see that at an ambulance in Hull would be acceptable. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:26:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations A publisher (NEHGS in this case) can specify (and potentially enforce) their preferences for the documents they handle. The English-speaking world, unlike France, has no organization whose sole purpose is to keep the language pure. The differences between British English and other English speakers have been noted for a long time - in The Canterville Ghost (1887), Oscar Wilde wrote: `We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language´. Note that a number of people (Oscar Wilde, George Bernard Shaw, even Winston Churchill, have been credited with the divided by a common language quote about England and the US. From a US point of view, I think of at when there is an identifiable location (street address, landmark) and in when the location is more general (township, etc.). In the case of a medical event, there is a difference in whether a child is born in an ambulance (on the way to [the] hospital) or at an ambulance (waited much too long). John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy with Vista
please take me off your list! thanks ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, It's nice to know I'm not the only one who can have them :-) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:39:36 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy with Vista Jim Terry wrote: By the way, please send your messages to the Legacy User Group in HTML format only. Please see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp. Senior moment, Jim? :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy with Vista
Joyce, If you follow this link http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp, you will be able to unsubscribe. You have to do it from the email address that is receiving the messages from this group. We are unable to help you as we are all subscribers of the list and not administrators. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joyce Heckman Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy with Vista please take me off your list! thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Saving census images
Hi Pat, Always choose a image format like Tiff if available. The image is embedded in the PDF and to enhance it, you have to copy the image out of the PDF. I don't think this would be different even if you owned PDF writing/editing software although they may have some image editing software included. The copied PDF image is unlikely to be as high a resolution as the straight image format. Cathy At 11:37 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote: What should one originally save a census image as ? - a .tiff file? I download a LOT of census images from HeritageQuest which offers the option of .pdf or .tif. I've downloaded the vast majority as .pdf files. Most but not all of them are in pretty readable condition. Is there anything that can be done with a .pdf file to enhance it? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Vista and HTML
I was going to say that you can set the format for inidivual entries in your address book, but that capability seems to be gone in the Contacts list for Windows Mail in Vista! Fortunately, there is an option to automatically set the format when replying to an e-mail to be the same as was used in the incoming mail. Otherwise, if you want your global setting to be HTML for most new messages, you have to remember to turn that off for each individual posting to mail lists. Argh. Ward - Original Message - From: Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy Users Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Vista and HTML Thanks to Sherry and Jim I have verified that Legacy is installed in the Legacy folder on the C drive, rather than within the Program Files folder and I have set the Use Account Control to on. I have also turned off HTML on my e-mail system. I hope that having done that doesn't create a problem with mail I send to other places. Tom Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Wife entered twice
Write down the RINs before unlinking. Rich in LA CA --- Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Diane, Since they are only listed once in the index, she is not entered twice but linked twice. Note she only has one RIN. Unlink one of the marriages. You can access the unlink dialogues by right clicking on a person in family view. If you lose a child, then you need to relink the child to the couple. Find them in the index. Unlinking does not delete anybody. With them in the middle position on Family View, right click and choose add parents then link to existing parents. Unless you only know one parent, always link children to a couple not a father or a mother. If you link to father or mother you'll create a new marriage/relationship for that parent. If she was really entered twice (had two entries in Index View and two differents RINs) you would merge the two. Cathy At 12:20 AM 9/11/2007, you wrote: I have a wife who is related several ways and was entered twice as the same wife to the same husband. I see only one child listed as a duplicate in the family view (Sarah, then as Sarah (Mary) and the other children are all listed as child name (Mary). In the individual index there is only one Mary Phillips and only one Sarah Tracy. No one appears to be duplicated on this list. The only duplication I see is on the marriage list where the couple is listed twice. I don't want to eliminate descendant information. I'm not sure how to proceed. Thanks! Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Question
They will still be based on L6 for an unknown timeframe, until they can create new ones. IMHO, since L7 was first shown about last spring, I would not hold my breath waiting for L7 training videos. No judgement, just logic. Rich in LA CA --- DianeLeMasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Thank you to all for your replies on this. I wasn't sure if I had to download the whole program again or not I couldn't find anything pertaining to it. I knew I would get an answer by writing to this great list. Have a question about the training videos. When Legacy releases version 7 will new training video's be available at the same time? Trying to decide whether I should hold off spending the $60 for version 6 video or wait for 7 to be release. Decisions- decisions! Again thank you for your wonderful help. Diane - Original Message - From: Ron Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Question Diane, Legacy standard and deluxe are one program. When a customer number is entered, then the deluxe features are made available but they are already in the program. Ron Taylor - Original Message - From: DianeLeMasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Question Hi As of now I've been using the free standard version Legacy 6. My question is, if I upgrade to the deluxe is there any additional downloading I will need to do? I am aware that I do need a customer number to unlock the deluxe version but haven't found anything that will tell me what I need to do after I unlock it. Your help is greatly appreciated thank you. Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
That's true. Susan, at least for events it is possible to edit the Event type itself to use what you want before locations, although what you are editing is the type of Event rather than all events so you would have to do them one at a time. Go to Master list, Event Definition, Edit. I've edited some of my event types where I use the notes in a consistent way but have not edited for location prepositions myself. I don't think there is any way to change this in a location specific way or for everything. If there is, I don't know of it. Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Lewis Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations A lot of opinions re the use of at vs in, which totally ignores the request of the OP and fails to answer her questions. I don't mind off-list responses with your opinions, but I don't want to start a debate on list about which preposition is best! LOL! My questions which should be addressed on list are (1) is there a way to globally change the preposition of in to at in the Locations List, and (2) can Legacy have the option to use at instead of in in its InPlace definition and locations preposition list, if that is a more professional manuscript standard. Thank you, Susan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources??
Hi Pat, Bob's suggestion can help you find what you actually put for a Source List Name so you can find it in the Master Source list. Searching in the Title may give a clue to the Source List Name. However, it isn't any use for Citations (Source Details) as you are given no idea what Master Source or what Individual they are attached to. It's very useful for Citations if you are correcting a typo though. Cathy At 11:05 AM 10/11/2007, you wrote: Try doing a FIND for HAGERS and also put HAGERS in the replace. (ie: put the same thing in both fields). Bob - Original Message - From: Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources?? Hi Pat, Currently not possible. It's on the wish list. If you've realised you've made a typo, you can Search and Replace on Sources. Cathy At 10:43 AM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I looked through the Search options but I don't see a way to do this: Search the Souce List Names (or any part of the citation) for a source containing--but not beginning with--, e.g., the word Hagers. Am I overlooking something-- or is this just not possible? Thanks! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Names/AKA's and Sourcing
Another thing to consider - is it possible that this error was carried over to some other source down the road. In the case of the census this PROBABLY(?) would not be the case, but if it was misspelled on a land deed, or a certificate of some kind - and that deed or certificate was later used for another transaction or another record . . . the error could continue on and on. If there is that possibility, you may want to include it in the AKAs so you remember to look for that alternate spelling during future searches. But you would, of course, want to document that you believe it was a clerical error and not an actually name she used. Bob - Original Message - From: Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Names/AKA's and Sourcing And just for a different point of view I use AKA's for any spelling variation, or name use, as well as married names for females. I have a person that I used an AKA to show a spelling variation on an index (but was ok on the original). I use it that way so that I can easily find people in Legacy's index, etc. I hook up the source to the specific AKA I found it under. So basically, it is however you prefer. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations
If you look in the Master Location List, you can change the preposition for any location from in to whatever you like. I don't know whether this is bug free as it's not something I do and I haven't time currently to test it out. If you really want to use at instead of in, try it. Cathy At 11:17 AM 10/11/2007, you wrote: That's true. Susan, at least for events it is possible to edit the Event type itself to use what you want before locations, although what you are editing is the type of Event rather than all events so you would have to do them one at a time. Go to Master list, Event Definition, Edit. I've edited some of my event types where I use the notes in a consistent way but have not edited for location prepositions myself. I don't think there is any way to change this in a location specific way or for everything. If there is, I don't know of it. Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Lewis Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions of In and At for locations A lot of opinions re the use of at vs in, which totally ignores the request of the OP and fails to answer her questions. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources??
Pat, Not sure how large your tree is, but if you can do a multiple descendants report, export it to an RTF, you could search the spources at the end of the file using the Word Processing search feature. But if you have a lot of people, and that source isn't going to be in that report, then you will miss out on it. Alternatively, do a Source Report (Books/Other) and include all sources and all RINs, etc., export to a PDF and use the Adobe to search the report. Susan On 11/7/07, Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked through the Search options but I don't see a way to do this: Search the Souce List Names (or any part of the citation) for a source containing--but not beginning with--, e.g., the word Hagers. Am I overlooking something-- or is this just not possible? Thanks! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Multiple Descendants Report __ was RE: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources??
Susan could you please give directions as to how to do a multiple descendants report as I can not work out how to do it and my manual is packed away waiting for new carpets. I am desperate to see some charts and have to keep gedcoming to Reunion to print these. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Daily Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 1:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources?? Pat, Not sure how large your tree is, but if you can do a multiple descendants report, export it to an RTF, you could search the spources at the end of the file using the Word Processing search feature. But if you have a lot of people, and that source isn't going to be in that report, then you will miss out on it. Alternatively, do a Source Report (Books/Other) and include all sources and all RINs, etc., export to a PDF and use the Adobe to search the report. Susan On 11/7/07, Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked through the Search options but I don't see a way to do this: Search the Souce List Names (or any part of the citation) for a source containing--but not beginning with--, e.g., the word Hagers. Am I overlooking something-- or is this just not possible? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Multiple Descendants Report __ was RE: [LegacyUG] Possible to search sources??
Click on Reports Click on Books/Other tab Click on Multiple Lines of Descent At the bottom of the next window, you'll see a change button, this is where you add all the people you wish to do multiple lines from. It automatically starts with the two people you were looking at in family view before you clicked on Reports. There are many Report Options, similar to the other types of reports, but one that will be different is Don't Repeat Duplicate Lines. You will probably want to click that to save paper. I hope this helps get you started. You can play with it for a while to see how it works. Susan On 11/9/07, Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan could you please give directions as to how to do a multiple descendants report as I can not work out how to do it and my manual is packed away waiting for new carpets. I am desperate to see some charts and have to keep gedcoming to Reunion to print these. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Saving census images
Hi Pat, For what it's worth, when I save a Census or other document image from Ancestry it always asks me what I wish to save it as, and I indicate JPEG format, which I understood was pretty universal. When the census comes up as a two page document, and I only need the people on one page, I bring it up with Adobe Photoshop, trim it, and keep the one page I need. So far I have a couple hundred documents, and a great many photos, and haven't made a dent in the storage space on my hard drive. I notice that when I save them in JPEG format I'm always able to enlarge them within Legacy so they are easily read. It's just my way of doing things but I've always saved everything in JPEG format, although I believe most programs will read TIFF format as well. Leonard Lorge On 11/9/07, Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pat, Always choose a image format like Tiff if available. The image is embedded in the PDF and to enhance it, you have to copy the image out of the PDF. I don't think this would be different even if you owned PDF writing/editing software although they may have some image editing software included. The copied PDF image is unlikely to be as high a resolution as the straight image format. Cathy At 11:37 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote: What should one originally save a census image as ? - a .tiff file? I download a LOT of census images from HeritageQuest which offers the option of .pdf or .tif. I've downloaded the vast majority as .pdf files. Most but not all of them are in pretty readable condition. Is there anything that can be done with a .pdf file to enhance it? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp