RE: [LegacyUG] Merging Basic Sources into Sourcewriter

[ronald ferguson]

Richard,

As far as I know Legacy has not made any announcement regarding the conversion 
tool and I am sure they would not now ever use the word "soon" let alone "very 
soon" and where on earth "...a week or so" came from I haven't a clue.

I fear that you are unjustifiably raising expectations.



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> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:40:17 -0800
> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Basic Sources into Sourcewriter
>
> Hi Lew,
>
> I'm with you. I also did several such merges under build 55 and
> although everything seemed to be satisfactory and definitely the
> quickest way to shrink my sources list I'd like to be sure.
> I have been told it is because the "Source conversion tool" is ready
> to be rolled out in the next build very soon. If so I can afford to
> wait a week or so.
>
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Chick Lewis wrote:
>> I am not getting any error message, nor is there any evidence of
>> damage that I can see, but Legacy must have removed that feature for
>> a reason. I am new to Legacy and have converted from FTM. I don't
>> want to be blindsided later with a corrupt file. Why else would
>> Legacy remove what appears to be an easy conversion tool and replace
>> it with a message that says don't do it?
>>
>> Lew
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Census vs Residence

[Hope Bagot Bees]

I'd go along with this - it's easy to see from the individual screen 
just what you do know about a person.  As nearly everyone I add is long 
dead, their 'pattern of migration' be it from one village to another or 
one country to another is plain to see.

Elizabeth

John Roose wrote:
I put census info into an event labelled "Residence." I then put 
"Census" in the description. I also use other sources for residence. I 
use "Tax Lists," sometimes "Church Record" [but I don't duplicate 
baptism], etc. I like to see the list of residence and dates in an 
easily (by me) spotted sequence under events. Looks cleaner and gives me 
the info I like.
 
Just my two cents.


Before I learned that there was a Census Event, I put all
occurrences in the Census as Residence Events.  Is there a
significant difference between using the Census Event vs the
Residence Event?





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[LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[jaemtp]

Hello.

I just purchased 7.0 Deluxe edition and have the most recent upgrade.
Does anyone have trouble using the "Ibid" feature?
I have a check mark in the box labled "Use Ibid for Repeating Master Sources" 
under Customize---> Sources ---> Citation Formatting. It does not work. The 
Source citations report seems redundant when repeating the same Master Source 
several times. 

About Unknown names: 
I have an individual in a family file who was married more than once. We do not 
have any Given name or Maiden name for his first wife. All we know was that he 
was married to her within a certain time frame of several years. It seems that 
I cannot leave the name field blank, and if I enter Unknown into the Given 
name, it shows up on Potential Problems report along with the instructions that 
"descriptive words that are not names should not be entered into name fields."  
I love it when machines do my thinking for me!




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[LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[jaemtp]

Hello again!

Is anyone else having trouble with sibling relationships. 
I have three siblings in my file who were born to the same mother. The mother 
gave birth to a son and daughter to her first husband; and a son to her second 
husband.  The Relationships Report incorrectly classifies the two sons as 
"step-brothers" when they are Half-brothers. However, the daughter and the #2 
son are correctly classified "half brother" and "half sister."




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RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[ronald ferguson]

Since the introduction of the Source Writer the use of "ibid" appears to have 
become redundant - which is a polite way of saying it no longer seems to be 
availanle.
 
I also do not like the use of unknown, so what I do is create the marriage to 
an "unknown" and in Family View right click on the appropriate window and 
delete. The marriage still remains but with no names given in reports/web pages.

Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:42:57 -0500
> From: jae...@verizon.net
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello.
>
>
>
> I just purchased 7.0 Deluxe edition and have the
> most recent upgrade.
>
> Does anyone have trouble using the "Ibid"
> feature?
>
> I have a check mark in the box labled "Use Ibid
> for Repeating Master Sources" under Customize---> Sources --->
> Citation Formatting. It does not work. The Source citations report
> seems redundant when repeating the same Master Source several times.
>
>
>
> About Unknown names:
>
> I have an individual in a
> family file who was married more than once. We do not have any Given
> name or Maiden name for his first wife. All we know was that he was
> married to her within a certain time frame of several years. It
> seems that I cannot leave the name field blank, and if I enter Unknown into 
> the
> Given name, it shows up on Potential Problems report along with the 
> instructions
> that "descriptive words that are not names should not be entered into name
> fields." I love it when machines do my thinking for me!
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Jenny M Benson]

jaemtp wrote
It seems that I cannot leave the name field blank, and if I enter 
Unknown into the Given name, it shows up on Potential Problems report 
along with the instructions that "descriptive words that are not names 
should not be entered into name fields."  I love it when machines do my 
thinking for me! 


I shout back at the machine and tell it I will do whatever *I* want and 
won't be dictated to by a mere machine!


I have dozens of Unknown either as forename, surname or both in my 
Legacy file and have switched off that Potential Problems warning 
because to me it is not a problem - in fact it is a blessing as it 
highlights an area of required research, to discover the true name(s).


If you don't agree with any of Legacy's strictures about what you should 
and shouldn't enter in a field, go to Tools>Potential 
Problems>Standardisation and uncheck as appropriate for you.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Adoption and name change?

[Kathy Cardoza]

I have a child who was adopted so I used the adoption event for him. I  
would like to see his name shown as the NEW surname from his adopted  
father but with something to show his birth name. What is the best way  
to handle that? Also, should I just make up my own event for the  
adoption for the father as the adopted parent or just modify the  
current adoption event?


Thanks for any help!
Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Online Backup was Rel. Calc. and Back-up

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Dede,

I am posting this to the list as this pertains to backing up Legacy.

Your message has been a great help to me regarding backups. I looked at the 
Mozy website to see the cost in the event that one needed to retrieve their 
backup from Mozy. I could not find any mention of retrieval cost. Dick 
Eastman's newsletter had the comment from a reader that it cost her $85.00 
U.S. to retrieve her backup. If you or other of our Mozy's users know the 
retrieval cost would you post it?

Ann Parsons



- Original Message - 
From: "Dede Holden" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Rel. Calc. and Back-up


> Gene,
>
> I am only responding to your second observation about backups.  The
> latest updates to Legacy 7 have included the backup date as part of
> the file name to be backed up.  I am very happy about this update,
> because I was saving my backups by date anyway.  This change has saved
> me much time, since I backup my files after every session.  Of course,
> you will have to delete older backups to make room for the newer ones.
>  I've always wanted my last two or three backups, at least, just in
> case I find something I need to go back several days to fix.  This may
> be overkill, but I also alternate my backups between two jump drives,
> just in case one of them fails for some reason.  I have a pretty
> recent backup on both of my jump drives.  (I also use Mozy.  I'd
> rather be safe than sorry.  Lesson learned the hard way.)
>
> Dede Holden
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Gene Hutson  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >Anyone else notice these two problems or am I the only
> > lucky one to be plagued??
> >
> >If I bring up the Relationship Calculator with myself in the right 
> > side
> > window and I try to bring my own mother up instead, I hit the swap
> > button and it will cycle for an hour only to come up and say that 
> > she
> > is in fact my mom.
> >
> >In previous versions when you went to back up your data at the end
> > of a session, it would tell you that whatever file already existed, 
> > do
> > you want to over-write it?? Now it just keeps adding all these 
> > back-up
> > files instead of over-writing them. I hadn't noticed it until I saw 
> > my
> > available space on my hard drive slowly diminishing. After looking 
> > in
> > "Data" I found like 24 different backed up files. After deleting all 
> > but
> > the most recent, my available space once again jumped like 5 
> > percentage
> > points.
> >
> >Just thought someone ought to know.
> >
> >   Gene Hutson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Basic Sources into Sourcewriter

[Brian/Support]

Lew,

When I tested this and reported the problem with merging basic sources 
into sourcewriter sources I found that the detail entries from the old 
style source were lost.


The Basic source details were not copied to the sourcewriter template 
fields. Initially when you look at the source in the source list the old 
details are shown but if you click on edit details you will find that 
those entries are missing from the sourcewriter details screen. If you 
then save instead of cancel the only entries that will remain are those 
hard coded into the template (such as the microfilm series number for 
census records).


The programmer elected to prevent merging of old and new style sources 
in response to that problem report.


Brian
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Thanks.

Chick Lewis wrote:

Sorry to keep asking about this issue and I hate to be a pest, but I
really need to know what, if any damage has been done to my file
because I merged basic sources into sourcewriter before that feature
was removed for some unknown reason in build 7.0.0.72.  A response
from Legacy would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Lew





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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Basic Sources into Sourcewriter

[Chick Lewis]

Thank you, Brian.  That's all I was asking for. Sorry if I caused any
problem.  Have a nice day...

Lew


On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Brian/Support
 wrote:
> Lew,
>
> When I tested this and reported the problem with merging basic sources into
> sourcewriter sources I found that the detail entries from the old style
> source were lost.
>
> The Basic source details were not copied to the sourcewriter template
> fields. Initially when you look at the source in the source list the old
> details are shown but if you click on edit details you will find that those
> entries are missing from the sourcewriter details screen. If you then save
> instead of cancel the only entries that will remain are those hard coded
> into the template (such as the microfilm series number for census records).
>
> The programmer elected to prevent merging of old and new style sources in
> response to that problem report.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
> Chick Lewis wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to keep asking about this issue and I hate to be a pest, but I
>> really need to know what, if any damage has been done to my file
>> because I merged basic sources into sourcewriter before that feature
>> was removed for some unknown reason in build 7.0.0.72.  A response
>> from Legacy would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
>>
>> Lew
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[jaemtp]

Thank you for your replies about the Source Writer and Ibid features and 
also about entering "unknown" in name fields.  I just purchased the 7.0 
Deluxe edition Dec 19. So this is somewhat new to me.


Your comment about the "ibid" feature no longer being available since the 
introduction of Source Writer caused some thought provoking and disturbing 
questions.


I don't doubt you. Yet, if they are no longer making it available, then why 
is it being used as a selling point?  The "ibid" feature is clearly 
adverstised as a currently available feature in Legacy 7 in conjunction with 
the Source Writer.  Legacy advertises on its web page Comparison Chart 
(under Notes and Sources) that Legacy 7 has the Source Writer with over 700 
templates. In one of the categories underneath this, it says: "sources use 
'ibid' feature" and is answered "Yes" in red highlight.  Legacy 7 is 
compared against four other genealogy software programs. Only two others, 
Roots Magic and The Master Genealogist, are marked "yes" for the Ibid 
feature.  The other two are marked "no."


Additionally, there are instructions for the ibid feature are in the Help 
Index Citation Formatting (7-30); and the software that I paid for and 
downloaded three weeks ago has a check-box under the Customize menu to 
enable the "ibid" feature.  Why am I being lead to believe that it is there 
when it is not?
Now, today, I read about someone looking for a Source Template Conversion 
Tool.  Ironically, I spent some extra time this moring trying to find that 
feature also. There are instructions in the Help Index (7-1330)  and the 
Manual (p. 72). I was beginning to wonder why I could not find until I came 
here and read that there has not been an announcment as to when it will be 
released!



- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse




Since the introduction of the Source Writer the use of "ibid" appears to 
have become redundant - which is a polite way of saying it no longer seems 
to be availanle.


I also do not like the use of unknown, so what I do is create the marriage 
to an "unknown" and in Family View right click on the appropriate window and 
delete. The marriage still remains but with no names given in reports/web 
pages.


Ron Ferguson

_

Now completely revised
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:42:57 -0500
From: jae...@verizon.net
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com










Hello.



I just purchased 7.0 Deluxe edition and have the
most recent upgrade.

Does anyone have trouble using the "Ibid"
feature?

I have a check mark in the box labled "Use Ibid
for Repeating Master Sources" under Customize---> Sources --->
Citation Formatting. It does not work. The Source citations report
seems redundant when repeating the same Master Source several times.



About Unknown names:

I have an individual in a
family file who was married more than once. We do not have any Given
name or Maiden name for his first wife. All we know was that he was
married to her within a certain time frame of several years. It
seems that I cannot leave the name field blank, and if I enter Unknown 
into the
Given name, it shows up on Potential Problems report along with the 
instructions

that "descriptive words that are not names should not be entered into name
fields." I love it when machines do my thinking for me!


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RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[ronald ferguson]

I cannor help re the marketing policy of Legacy, but I didn't quite say it 
wasn't available - it still may be for old style sources. As I see it, though, 
the New Source Writer has a citation for the first time a specific source is 
used and another for when it is used again, which is when would normally use 
ibid. Since both cannot be used then my conclusion follows.
 
Off the cuff, I think you have found all items in the Help Files which are not 
yet part of Legacy. In general you will find the Help Files more uptodate than 
other sources of assistance, and in the cases of Source Conversion, somewhat in 
advance!



Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:45:51 -0500
> From: jae...@verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Thank you for your replies about the Source Writer and Ibid features and
> also about entering "unknown" in name fields. I just purchased the 7.0
> Deluxe edition Dec 19. So this is somewhat new to me.
>
> Your comment about the "ibid" feature no longer being available since the
> introduction of Source Writer caused some thought provoking and disturbing
> questions.
>
> I don't doubt you. Yet, if they are no longer making it available, then why
> is it being used as a selling point? The "ibid" feature is clearly
> adverstised as a currently available feature in Legacy 7 in conjunction with
> the Source Writer. Legacy advertises on its web page Comparison Chart
> (under Notes and Sources) that Legacy 7 has the Source Writer with over 700
> templates. In one of the categories underneath this, it says: "sources use
> 'ibid' feature" and is answered "Yes" in red highlight. Legacy 7 is
> compared against four other genealogy software programs. Only two others,
> Roots Magic and The Master Genealogist, are marked "yes" for the Ibid
> feature. The other two are marked "no."
>
> Additionally, there are instructions for the ibid feature are in the Help
> Index Citation Formatting (7-30); and the software that I paid for and
> downloaded three weeks ago has a check-box under the Customize menu to
> enable the "ibid" feature. Why am I being lead to believe that it is there
> when it is not?
> Now, today, I read about someone looking for a Source Template Conversion
> Tool. Ironically, I spent some extra time this moring trying to find that
> feature also. There are instructions in the Help Index (7-1330) and the
> Manual (p. 72). I was beginning to wonder why I could not find until I came
> here and read that there has not been an announcment as to when it will be
> released!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
>
>
>
>
> Since the introduction of the Source Writer the use of "ibid" appears to
> have become redundant - which is a polite way of saying it no longer seems
> to be availanle.
>
> I also do not like the use of unknown, so what I do is create the marriage
> to an "unknown" and in Family View right click on the appropriate window and
> delete. The marriage still remains but with no names given in reports/web
> pages.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:42:57 -0500
>> From: jae...@verizon.net
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just purchased 7.0 Deluxe edition and have the
>> most recent upgrade.
>>
>> Does anyone have trouble using the "Ibid"
>> feature?
>>
>> I have a check mark in the box labled "Use Ibid
>> for Repeating Master Sources" under Customize---> Sources --->
>> Citation Formatting. It does not work. The Source citations report
>> seems redundant when repeating the same Master Source several times.
>>
>>
>>
>> About Unknown names:
>>
>> I have an individual in a
>> family file who was married more than once. We do not have any Given
>> name or Maiden name for his first wife. All we know was that he was
>> married to her within a certain time frame of several years. It
>> seems that I cannot leave the name field blank, and if I enter Unknown
>> into the
>> Given name, it shows up

[LegacyUG] FW: Printer set up

[Laurie Hicks]

 
Hi
 
I had trouble with my printer and had to reinstall the printer, now when I
click on view or print it tells me to define a windows printer, I click on
Printer set up, up comes the name of my printer, I click Ok and goes back to
the preview of print page, but it still does not work, I can not find any
reference to printer set up in the manual or help menu.  Can anyone please
help me.

Regards, 
  
  
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RE: [LegacyUG] FW: Printer set up

[ronald ferguson]

Laurie,
 
Have you restarted you PC and then reopened Legacy?



Ron Ferguson

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Printer set up
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:44:42 +1100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I had trouble with
> my printer and had to reinstall the printer, now when I click on view or print
> it tells me to define a windows printer, I click on Printer set up, up comes 
> the
> name of my printer, I click Ok and goes back to the preview of print page, but
> it still does not work, I can not find any reference to printer set up in the
> manual or help menu. Can anyone please help
> me.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> (Laurown)
> Laurie
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] FW: Printer set up

[Laurie Hicks]

Hi

I should have known better, thanks for your help.

Regards

Laurie

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Laurie,
 
Have you restarted you PC and then reopened Legacy?



Ron Ferguson

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> From: hic...@iprimus.com.au
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Printer set up
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:44:42 +1100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I had trouble with
> my printer and had to reinstall the printer, now when I click on view 
> or print it tells me to define a windows printer, I click on Printer 
> set up, up comes the name of my printer, I click Ok and goes back to 
> the preview of print page, but it still does not work, I can not find 
> any reference to printer set up in the manual or help menu. Can anyone 
> please help me.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> (Laurown)
> Laurie
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[Gary Crull]

This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up on it!
ha ha

Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? The
Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos
associated with the individual. This is also where I've been parking my
tombstone photos. 

I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. However,
looks to me like if this method is used there is no indication anywhere a
cemetery photo is present unless the cross + is clicked from Burial line
from the Individuals screen to see if BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.

Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided DISadvantage in
that you don't know an individual in your database may have a tombstone
photo available. Using my method granted a tombstone photo is mixed in
with individual photos, but at least the Photo Icon alerts you to the
presence of some kind of photo - individual or whatever!

gc

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
writes:
Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on the
cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual page. 
There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the address of same and
even pictures relating to the burial such as an overall picture of the
cemetery and a gravestone picture.  The obituary is a good addition here
also.  

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[LegacyUG] De or DE, Of or OF

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Just wondering what the most usual form is for old surnames.  I have a 
number of people using either 'of ' or 'de' attached to their surname. 
I have been accustomed to linking this to the end of the given name 
rather than at the beginning of the surname.  This results in mixed 
lists of surnames, e.g. the De Bohun family could come under D or B. 
Obviously it would be easier to have them together in the index, name 
lists etc.  My original thought was that they should come under B, but I 
have found the convention seems to be that they should be under D.


I suppose the same difficulty of indexes applies to other surnames where 
the spelling has changed over the years.  Any ideas, please?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[Cathy Vallevieni]

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of 
the main screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" 
photo, it is saved in the same place, shows in both locations and 
changes the photo icon to half color.  It just seems to be two ways 
to accomplish the same result. I think this was your question.


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:
This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up 
on it! ha ha


Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? 
The Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos 
associated with the individual. This is also where I've been parking 
my tombstone photos.


I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. 
However, looks to me like if this method is used there is no 
indication anywhere a cemetery photo is present unless the cross + 
is clicked from Burial line from the Individuals screen to see if 
BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.


Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided 
DISadvantage in that you don't know an individual in your database 
may have a tombstone photo available. Using my method granted a 
tombstone photo is mixed in with individual photos, but at least the 
Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of some kind of photo - 
individual or whatever!


gc

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
<phusba...@verizon.net> writes:
Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on 
the cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual 
page.  There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the address of 
same and even pictures relating to the burial such as an overall 
picture of the cemetery and a gravestone picture.  The obituary is a 
good addition here also.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Bruce McArthur]

Hi

It would be nice if people who, for some obsure reason, require "read 
receipts" would turn it off when posting to a group such as this, as it is 
intensely annoying to be asked for an acknowledgement when you are trying to 
quickly scan a set of emails and may not even be interested in the subject.


jaemtp you may not know it but I'm talking about you, but you are not alone.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[Gary Crull]

Cathy,

What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded Picture
Icon on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT appear. In my test
only photos of Individuals show up when the Picture Icon is full colored.
If you have 2 photos of the individual and 1 photo of the tombstone only
the 2 photos of the individual are displayed.

Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half
shaded Icon AND the full colored one as well!

gc

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni 
writes:
GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of the
main screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" photo, it
is saved in the same place, shows in both locations and changes the photo
icon to half color.  It just seems to be two ways to accomplish the same
result. I think this was your question.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up on it!
ha ha
 
Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? The
Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos
associated with the individual. This is also where I've been parking my
tombstone photos. 
 
I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. However,
looks to me like if this method is used there is no indication anywhere a
cemetery photo is present unless the cross + is clicked from Burial line
from the Individuals screen to see if BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.
 
Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided DISadvantage in
that you don't know an individual in your database may have a tombstone
photo available. Using my method granted a tombstone photo is mixed in
with individual photos, but at least the Photo Icon alerts you to the
presence of some kind of photo - individual or whatever!
 
gc
 
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
writes:

Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on the
cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual page. 
There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the address of same and
even pictures relating to the burial such as an overall picture of the
cemetery and a gravestone picture.  The obituary is a good addition here
also.  

 




 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Online Backup was Rel. Calc. and Back-up

[Joyce Herzog]

My computer died in May. I had my backup on Mozy using the free program. It
didn't cost me anything to retreive my files. Just took about a day to get
them after I told them I wanted it.

Joyce Drinkwater Herzog



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Ann Parsons  wrote:

> Hello Dede,
>
> I am posting this to the list as this pertains to backing up Legacy.
>
> Your message has been a great help to me regarding backups. I looked at the
> Mozy website to see the cost in the event that one needed to retrieve their
> backup from Mozy. I could not find any mention of retrieval cost. Dick
> Eastman's newsletter had the comment from a reader that it cost her $85.00
> U.S. to retrieve her backup. If you or other of our Mozy's users know the
> retrieval cost would you post it?
>
> Ann Parsons
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dede Holden" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Rel. Calc. and Back-up
>
>
> > Gene,
> >
> > I am only responding to your second observation about backups.  The
> > latest updates to Legacy 7 have included the backup date as part of
> > the file name to be backed up.  I am very happy about this update,
> > because I was saving my backups by date anyway.  This change has saved
> > me much time, since I backup my files after every session.  Of course,
> > you will have to delete older backups to make room for the newer ones.
> >  I've always wanted my last two or three backups, at least, just in
> > case I find something I need to go back several days to fix.  This may
> > be overkill, but I also alternate my backups between two jump drives,
> > just in case one of them fails for some reason.  I have a pretty
> > recent backup on both of my jump drives.  (I also use Mozy.  I'd
> > rather be safe than sorry.  Lesson learned the hard way.)
> >
> > Dede Holden
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Gene Hutson 
> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >Anyone else notice these two problems or am I the only
> > > lucky one to be plagued??
> > >
> > >If I bring up the Relationship Calculator with myself in the right
> > > side
> > > window and I try to bring my own mother up instead, I hit the swap
> > > button and it will cycle for an hour only to come up and say that
> > > she
> > > is in fact my mom.
> > >
> > >In previous versions when you went to back up your data at the end
> > > of a session, it would tell you that whatever file already existed,
> > > do
> > > you want to over-write it?? Now it just keeps adding all these
> > > back-up
> > > files instead of over-writing them. I hadn't noticed it until I saw
> > > my
> > > available space on my hard drive slowly diminishing. After looking
> > > in
> > > "Data" I found like 24 different backed up files. After deleting
> all
> > > but
> > > the most recent, my available space once again jumped like 5
> > > percentage
> > > points.
> > >
> > >Just thought someone ought to know.
> > >
> > >   Gene Hutson
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[jaemtp]

Sorry about that Bruce, that was my first message and I was using newsgroup 
settings. Receipts should be turned off now.


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse



Hi

It would be nice if people who, for some obsure reason, require "read 
receipts" would turn it off when posting to a group such as this, as it is 
intensely annoying to be asked for an acknowledgement when you are trying 
to quickly scan a set of emails and may not even be interested in the 
subject.


jaemtp you may not know it but I'm talking about you, but you are not 
alone.


thanks

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RE: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[M. Brenzel]

But the tombstone picture does show up!  You have to select Burial from the
drop-down list on the right side under the "Scan a Picture" button.  The
list contains anything for the Individual that can have a picture attached
to it.  By default, Individual pictures are displayed.  The first item in
the list is "All Pictures".  If the item has a picture attached to it, then
there is an asterisk (*) in front of the item's name.

 

Mary

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Gary Crull
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

 

Cathy,

 

What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded Picture
Icon on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT appear. In my test
only photos of Individuals show up when the Picture Icon is full colored. If
you have 2 photos of the individual and 1 photo of the tombstone only the 2
photos of the individual are displayed.

 

Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half shaded
Icon AND the full colored one as well!

 

gc

 

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni 
writes:

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of the main
screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" photo, it is saved
in the same place, shows in both locations and changes the photo icon to
half color.  It just seems to be two ways to accomplish the same result. I
think this was your question.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up on it! ha
ha
 
Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? The
Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos associated
with the individual. This is also where I've been parking my tombstone
photos. 
 
I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. However,
looks to me like if this method is used there is no indication anywhere a
cemetery photo is present unless the cross + is clicked from Burial line
from the Individuals screen to see if BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.
 
Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided DISadvantage in
that you don't know an individual in your database may have a tombstone
photo available. Using my method granted a tombstone photo is mixed in with
individual photos, but at least the Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of
some kind of photo - individual or whatever!
 
gc
 
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
writes:

Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on the
cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual page.
There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the address of same and even
pictures relating to the burial such as an overall picture of the cemetery
and a gravestone picture.  The obituary is a good addition here also.  

 



 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Kris]

Your email program should give you an option to deal with those 
automatically.  It would probably be easier to change the way you do 
things than to try to change the way a number of other people do things.


Bruce McArthur wrote:

Hi

It would be nice if people who, for some obsure reason, require "read 
receipts" would turn it off when posting to a group such as this, as it 
is intensely annoying to be asked for an acknowledgement when you are 
trying to quickly scan a set of emails and may not even be interested in 
the subject.


jaemtp you may not know it but I'm talking about you, but you are not 
alone.


thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[Cathy Vallevieni]

GC:

I just tried attaching a picture to an occupation and it did show up 
under the "occupation" in the pictures and next to the occupation on 
the report.


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County

At 04:24 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

Cathy,

What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded 
Picture Icon on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT 
appear. In my test only photos of Individuals show up when the 
Picture Icon is full colored. If you have 2 photos of the individual 
and 1 photo of the tombstone only the 2 photos of the individual are displayed.


Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half 
shaded Icon AND the full colored one as well!


gc

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni 
<cathyv...@cox.net> writes:

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of 
the main screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" 
photo, it is saved in the same place, shows in both locations and 
changes the photo icon to half color.  It just seems to be two ways 
to accomplish the same result. I think this was your question.


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:
This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up 
on it! ha ha


Is there any indication that a photo is available using this 
method? The Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there 
are photos associated with the individual. This is also where I've 
been parking my tombstone photos.


I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. 
However, looks to me like if this method is used there is no 
indication anywhere a cemetery photo is present unless the cross + 
is clicked from Burial line from the Individuals screen to see if 
BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.


Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided 
DISadvantage in that you don't know an individual in your database 
may have a tombstone photo available. Using my method granted a 
tombstone photo is mixed in with individual photos, but at least 
the Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of some kind of photo - 
individual or whatever!


gc

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
<phusba...@verizon.net> writes:
Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on 
the cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an 
individual page.  There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the 
address of same and even pictures relating to the burial such as an 
overall picture of the cemetery and a gravestone picture.  The 
obituary is a good addition here also.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Ward Walker]

Is ibid not for the case where the new footnote is the same as the one 
immediately above it? I would think that it could co-exist with the 
'subsequent citation' usage, which would cover scattered citations.


However, I think both suffer from the same issue as I have discussed 
previously (in the thread "Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue"). How 
can the software figure out that the Detail portion of the citation is 
identical to the original citation, or likewise to the citation of the 
preceeding footnote? (Re-citing the master source is not complicated, just 
re-citing the master + detail fields.)


The abbreviated 'subsequent citation' form appears to only be implemented 
for Source Writer citations, not old style. I can't say for ibid. My tests 
never seem to have adjacent identical footnotes.


Also note that the subsequent citation text currently only gets used in 
certain reports. It does get used in Descendant Narrative reports IF you 
choose to have the footnotes on each page rather than as endnotes all at the 
end.


I sent in several detailed bug reports about all this last month, using the 
link on the Legacy Home tab. I have not received any acknowledgement that 
they were received.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse



I cannor help re the marketing policy of Legacy, but I didn't quite say it 
wasn't available - it still may be for old style sources. As I see it, 
though, the New Source Writer has a citation for the first time a specific 
source is used and another for when it is used again, which is when would 
normally use ibid. Since both cannot be used then my conclusion follows.


Off the cuff, I think you have found all items in the Help Files which are 
not yet part of Legacy. In general you will find the Help Files more 
uptodate than other sources of assistance, and in the cases of Source 
Conversion, somewhat in advance!




Ron Ferguson



Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:45:51 -0500
From: jae...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Thank you for your replies about the Source Writer and Ibid features and
also about entering "unknown" in name fields. I just purchased the 7.0
Deluxe edition Dec 19. So this is somewhat new to me.

Your comment about the "ibid" feature no longer being available since the
introduction of Source Writer caused some thought provoking and disturbing
questions.

I don't doubt you. Yet, if they are no longer making it available, then 
why

is it being used as a selling point? The "ibid" feature is clearly
adverstised as a currently available feature in Legacy 7 in conjunction 
with

the Source Writer. Legacy advertises on its web page Comparison Chart
(under Notes and Sources) that Legacy 7 has the Source Writer with over 
700

templates. In one of the categories underneath this, it says: "sources use
'ibid' feature" and is answered "Yes" in red highlight. Legacy 7 is
compared against four other genealogy software programs. Only two others,
Roots Magic and The Master Genealogist, are marked "yes" for the Ibid
feature. The other two are marked "no."

Additionally, there are instructions for the ibid feature are in the Help
Index Citation Formatting (7-30); and the software that I paid for and
downloaded three weeks ago has a check-box under the Customize menu to
enable the "ibid" feature. Why am I being lead to believe that it is there
when it is not?
Now, today, I read about someone looking for a Source Template Conversion
Tool. Ironically, I spent some extra time this moring trying to find that
feature also. There are instructions in the Help Index (7-1330) and the
Manual (p. 72). I was beginning to wonder why I could not find until I 
came

here and read that there has not been an announcment as to when it will be
released!


- Original Message -
From: "ronald ferguson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse


Since the introduction of the Source Writer the use of "ibid" appears to
have become redundant - which is a polite way of saying it no longer seems
to be availanle.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:54:33 -0600, Kris 
wrote:

>Your email program should give you an option to deal with those 
>automatically.  It would probably be easier to change the way you do 
>things than to try to change the way a number of other people do things.

Please read http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp.

It says "Don't require replies to messages sent to the Legacy Users
Group."
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[Cathy Vallevieni]

GC:

You have to scan down the scroll on the right side  that starts with 
"individual" until you get to "burial".  Any item with an * in front 
of it has a photo.  They are grouped by category and, although I've 
only added Individual and Burial photos, I assume you can add photos 
under the other categories and they show up on different locations on 
the reports?  Maybe if you add a photo under events that are entered 
as occupations then they show under "occupations" on the scroll bar 
and print next to the occupation on reports?


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, cA

At 04:24 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

Cathy,

What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded 
Picture Icon on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT 
appear. In my test only photos of Individuals show up when the 
Picture Icon is full colored. If you have 2 photos of the individual 
and 1 photo of the tombstone only the 2 photos of the individual are displayed.


Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half 
shaded Icon AND the full colored one as well!


gc

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni 
<cathyv...@cox.net> writes:

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of 
the main screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" 
photo, it is saved in the same place, shows in both locations and 
changes the photo icon to half color.  It just seems to be two ways 
to accomplish the same result. I think this was your question.


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:
This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up 
on it! ha ha


Is there any indication that a photo is available using this 
method? The Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there 
are photos associated with the individual. This is also where I've 
been parking my tombstone photos.


I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. 
However, looks to me like if this method is used there is no 
indication anywhere a cemetery photo is present unless the cross + 
is clicked from Burial line from the Individuals screen to see if 
BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.


Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided 
DISadvantage in that you don't know an individual in your database 
may have a tombstone photo available. Using my method granted a 
tombstone photo is mixed in with individual photos, but at least 
the Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of some kind of photo - 
individual or whatever!


gc

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband" 
<phusba...@verizon.net> writes:
Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on 
the cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an 
individual page.  There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the 
address of same and even pictures relating to the burial such as an 
overall picture of the cemetery and a gravestone picture.  The 
obituary is a good addition here also.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Ward Walker]

I strongly disagree. While I think asking for a read acknowledgement is 
rather rude, I still want the option of acknowledging receipt of e-mails 
from certain social or business contacts, and ignoring the request for 
accidental ones like in mail lists. Thus, there is no automatic solution on 
the receiving end. We can only remind the senders to turn it off.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Kris" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse


Your email program should give you an option to deal with those 
automatically.  It would probably be easier to change the way you do 
things than to try to change the way a number of other people do things.


Bruce McArthur wrote:

Hi

It would be nice if people who, for some obsure reason, require "read 
receipts" would turn it off when posting to a group such as this, as it 
is intensely annoying to be asked for an acknowledgement when you are 
trying to quickly scan a set of emails and may not even be interested in 
the subject.


jaemtp you may not know it but I'm talking about you, but you are not 
alone.


thanks

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RE: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

[leo macdonald]

GC, personally I would not place a cemetery photo in the photo gallery of the 
individual. I reserve this gallery for photos of the individual that are taken 
over a period of time from the birth of the person right up to the present day 
or the end of their life. But each person has a different way of doing things, 
if this works for you that's great. Remember that only the preferred photo that 
is selected will be displayed in reports.
As for entering a cemetery photo using the + sign in the burial section, to me 
this is like placing it in "La-La-Land", the photo does not print in reports, I 
stopped using this option a long time ago. Some day the programmers may make 
this feature operational, (don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen 
though).
I prefer to add an event to the person called "Cemetery Photo", "Cemetery 
Headstone", whatever you want to call it, then attach the photo to the event. 
You can also add whatever facts you want into the notes section in the event.
Leo  





To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:24:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos
From: gcr...@juno.com


Cathy,
 
What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded Picture Icon 
on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT appear. In my test only photos 
of Individuals show up when the Picture Icon is full colored. If you have 2 
photos of the individual and 1 photo of the tombstone only the 2 photos of the 
individual are displayed.
 
Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half shaded Icon 
AND the full colored one as well!
 
gc
 
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni  writes:

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of the main 
screen or you add it from the picture icon as a "Burial" photo, it is saved in 
the same place, shows in both locations and changes the photo icon to half 
color.  It just seems to be two ways to accomplish the same result. I think 
this was your question.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up on it! ha ha
 
Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? The Photo 
Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos associated with the 
individual. This is also where I've been parking my tombstone photos. 
 
I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. However, looks 
to me like if this method is used there is no indication anywhere a cemetery 
photo is present unless the cross + is clicked from Burial line from the 
Individuals screen to see if BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.
 
Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided DISadvantage in that 
you don't know an individual in your database may have a tombstone photo 
available. Using my method granted a tombstone photo is mixed in with 
individual photos, but at least the Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of 
some kind of photo - individual or whatever!
 
gc
 
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 "Phil Husband"  writes:


Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on the cross   
+   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual page.  There you may 
enter the name of the cemetery, the address of same and even pictures relating 
to the burial such as an overall picture of the cemetery and a gravestone 
picture.  The obituary is a good addition here also.  

 



 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Actually, I answer "yes" to those from the list. I figure if they get 40 or 
so receipts from people they've never heard of, turning the request off will 
happen sooner.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Ward Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse


I strongly disagree. While I think asking for a read acknowledgement is 
rather rude, I still want the option of acknowledging receipt of e-mails 
from certain social or business contacts, and ignoring the request for 
accidental ones like in mail lists. Thus, there is no automatic solution on 
the receiving end. We can only remind the senders to turn it off.


  Ward






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Where do I find information to help me do this .  . . preview, etc.  I've 
looked at all the tapes in Legacy 7 Deluxe.   

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[The Mathesons]

Hi Reg and others annoyed by requests for read receipts,

Does your email program have an option that allows you to ignore (or never
return) read receipts. If you switch this option on you will never agian be 
annoyed
by requests for read receipts.

Jennie Matheson

- Original Message - 
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships


Hello ?

Please TURN OFF request for receipt from recipient when sending mail to
Legacy User Group, I know from time to time I forget to do so BUT believe me
it is terribly annoying and also a bit suspect (sure way to collect email
addresses for SPAM/etc which I know is not your intent.

Have a nice day ? unknown

Reg
Brisbane-Australia

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[Famhobby]

Why is the solution always something other than simply following the list
rules?   Every time someone raises the issue of list rules being broken, the
discussion quickly turns to something everyone else on the list can do to
cope with it.   And usually the person raising the issue becomes the
villain.   The list has rules for a reason.   We all agreed to follow them.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of The Mathesons
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

Hi Reg and others annoyed by requests for read receipts,

Does your email program have an option that allows you to ignore (or never
return) read receipts. If you switch this option on you will never agian be 
annoyed
by requests for read receipts.

Jennie Matheson

- Original Message - 
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships


Hello ?

Please TURN OFF request for receipt from recipient when sending mail to
Legacy User Group, I know from time to time I forget to do so BUT believe me
it is terribly annoying and also a bit suspect (sure way to collect email
addresses for SPAM/etc which I know is not your intent.

Have a nice day ? unknown

Reg
Brisbane-Australia

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RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse

[Wynthner]

Ibid should ONLY used if the source IMMEDIATELY preceding it is exactly the 
same in ALL respects.

If there is an intervening source other standards apply.


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid feature and unknown spouse
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:00 PM
> I cannor help re the marketing policy of Legacy, but I
> didn't quite say it wasn't available - it still may
> be for old style sources. As I see it, though, the New
> Source Writer has a citation for the first time a specific
> source is used and another for when it is used again, which
> is when would normally use ibid. Since both cannot be used
> then my conclusion follows.
>  
> Off the cuff, I think you have found all items in the Help
> Files which are not yet part of Legacy. In general you will
> find the Help Files more uptodate than other sources of
> assistance, and in the cases of Source Conversion, somewhat
> in advance!
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson




  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[John S. Adams]

Because it is much, much, much easier to modify your e-mail environment than 
to control the behavior of hundreds of strangers.


--
From: "Famhobby" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:38 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships




Why is the solution always something other than simply following the list
rules?   Every time someone raises the issue of list rules being broken, 
the

discussion quickly turns to something everyone else on the list can do to
cope with it.   And usually the person raising the issue becomes the
villain.   The list has rules for a reason.   We all agreed to follow 
them.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[The Mathesons]

And perhaps the person raising the issue becomes the villian because they do 
not follow etiquette by raising the issue privately with the person 
"breaking the rules", but rather make a big issue by raising it via the 
list.

Jennie
- Original Message - 
From: "Famhobby" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships




Why is the solution always something other than simply following the list
rules?   Every time someone raises the issue of list rules being broken, the
discussion quickly turns to something everyone else on the list can do to
cope with it.   And usually the person raising the issue becomes the
villain.   The list has rules for a reason.   We all agreed to follow them.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of The Mathesons
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

Hi Reg and others annoyed by requests for read receipts,

Does your email program have an option that allows you to ignore (or never
return) read receipts. If you switch this option on you will never agian be
annoyed
by requests for read receipts.

Jennie Matheson

- Original Message - 
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships


Hello ?

Please TURN OFF request for receipt from recipient when sending mail to
Legacy User Group, I know from time to time I forget to do so BUT believe me
it is terribly annoying and also a bit suspect (sure way to collect email
addresses for SPAM/etc which I know is not your intent.

Have a nice day ? unknown

Reg
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[Art Seddon]

And every time somebody breaks a rule I have to delete 99  message belly-aching 
about it.

Art Seddon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Famhobby 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:38 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships




  Why is the solution always something other than simply following the list
  rules?   Every time someone raises the issue of list rules being broken, the
  discussion quickly turns to something everyone else on the list can do to
  cope with it.   And usually the person raising the issue becomes the
  villain.   The list has rules for a reason.   We all agreed to follow them.


  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
  Of The Mathesons
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:08 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

  Hi Reg and others annoyed by requests for read receipts,

  Does your email program have an option that allows you to ignore (or never
  return) read receipts. If you switch this option on you will never agian be 
  annoyed
  by requests for read receipts.

  Jennie Matheson

  - Original Message - 
  From: Reg SHERLOCK
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships


  Hello ?

  Please TURN OFF request for receipt from recipient when sending mail to
  Legacy User Group, I know from time to time I forget to do so BUT believe me
  it is terribly annoying and also a bit suspect (sure way to collect email
  addresses for SPAM/etc which I know is not your intent.

  Have a nice day ? unknown

  Reg
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

[Gary Templeman]

Except that some of us correspond with other people (not this list) such as 
employers, or co-workers working on a project, where we WANT to respond 
positively to certain read receipt requests. Turning it off globally at our 
end means we do not recieve them at all. The sender on the other hand, has 
the ability to make requests on a per-email basis.


Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "John S. Adams" 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships


Because it is much, much, much easier to modify your e-mail environment 
than to control the behavior of hundreds of strangers.







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Re: [LegacyUG] BOOK

[John S. Adams]

Huh?

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Subject: [LegacyUG] BOOK


Where do I find information to help me do this .  . . preview, etc.  I've
looked at all the tapes in Legacy 7 Deluxe.

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