[LegacyUG] Re: Unable to copy scanned documents into Legacy "events" or "Notes"
Many thanks to all who responded to my second request. Lots of great suggestions! For the time being I think I will stick with FreeOCR recommended by GeneY which seems to work fine for my use. One question, Gene - is a tutorial available somewhere for FreeOCR? I'm figuring out a few things by trial and error but a users manual or tutorial would probably make it easier. Thanks again for everyone's help - this is a great group! Bill R. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bill Rhodes wrote: > I have somehow lost my original email and the replies to it, but I was told > by someone that to get scanned docs into Legacy I need Optical Reader > software (which makes sense) and that I could find free ones for download. > After a lot of searching on Google I was never able to find completely free > software - "free" usually becomes "free trial period" or "donation > required", etc. I finally ordered "SIMPLE OCR" - the free version with an > obligatory $25 donation. After downloading & installing - it does not work! > I called them and they do *not* support the free version. After some > discussion they agreed to refund the $25. So I am back to square one. I > really do not want to re-type all these records if there is a better way. I > would welcome and all any further ideas or suggestions. How do the rest of > you folks do it? > > Bill Rhodes >
Re: [LegacyUG] Any unusual Events with their sentence structures?
Cathy wrote: > Does anyone have a listing of "out of the ordinary > events" along with applicable sentence structures? > > For example, I found a reference to the registered > "ear marks" used to brand an ancestor's cattle > but am unsure how to add it to my database. With city > directories, I can add them as "Residence." > > But what about any unusual events you've found? What > are they and how did you enter them into the Events with a > sentence structure? > Cathy, I don't have a list, but in the example you gave, I'd call it what it is, "Ear Marks". I call an event whatever seems to be logical. I detest canned sentences, so for every event, the only sentence structure I use is [Notes][Sources]. That way, I have complete control over how reports read: usually that means my reports are less stilted, more free-flowing, and hopefully a bit more interesting to read. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Any unusual Events with their sentence structures?
Dear Legacy group, Does anyone have a listing of "out of the ordinary events" along with applicable sentence structures? For example, I found a reference to the registered "ear marks" used to brand an ancestor's cattle but am unsure how to add it to my database. With city directories, I can add them as "Residence." But what about any unusual events you've found? What are they and how did you enter them into the Events with a sentence structure? Thanks, Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer Legacy files to reformatted computer?
On Sat, 9 May 2009 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT), ewinpa wrote: >I'm wondering if I can just drag my entire old Legacy folder to my new hard >drive (C:) since my old hard drive was installed on this newer computer as >drive E:. Or do I still need to install Legacy on C: and move all my old files >as I would have if I had reformatted my old computer? A Legacy install places some components in C:\Windows... and also updates the registry. So you should do the latter. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center Descendant Book Report
I've decided that the downsides of using the book are greater than the upsides. You've highlighted one. However, I also want to put in fan charts - otherwise multiple lines of descent are difficult to understand. And I want to put in one or two word.doc files. So I've got round all the problems by running each report separately, composing pdfs. I also composed my introduction, copyright, acknowledgements etc. separately, and put all together using a pdf creator that can accept Legacy's pdfs. At that point I insert the page numbers and correct the contents. That way I have complete control over the output. Alastair Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer Legacy files to reformatted computer?
Hello, Thanks to all who replied to my request for help. I ended up just getting a newer computer instead of reformatting my old oneit was old!! I will soon be putting Legacy on this new computer and will try to follow the instructions you all have given me.but I'm wondering if I can just drag my entire old Legacy folder to my new hard drive (C:) since my old hard drive was installed on this newer computer as drive E:. Or do I still need to install Legacy on C: and move all my old files as I would have if I had reformatted my old computer? Another question I have is...how would I install Legacy (or any other program for that matter) in such a way that it will open when I want to use it but it is not starting up every time I start up my computer? Thank you! Elizabeth --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Dermot McGlone wrote: > From: Dermot McGlone > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer Legacy files to reformatted computer? > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 10:00 AM > Elizabeth, > > You can't just copy the whole Legacy folder onto yoru > flash drive and > paste it back in, that won't work. > > I'd just do a backup of the family file onto the USB > flash drive, and > also copy the downloaded setup file (Legacy7Setup.exe) to > the same > stick. > > When your computer is ready again, use that setup file to > load Legacy > onto it, and then restore your family file from the backup. > Et Voila! > > If you need more info, get back on, and we'll try and > guide you > through it in baby steps. > > Regards, > > Dermot. > > -- > > Try out Legacy Family Tree Software today! It's FREE!! > http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440 > > > Groucho Marx - "A child of five would understand > this. Send someone > to fetch a child of five." > > 2009/4/17 ewinpa > > > Could someone tell me step-by-step how to save my > Legacy program and files on to a USB flash drive in such a > way that I can then put it back on to my computer which I am > having reformatted this weekend? > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Unable to copy scanned documents into Legacy "events" or "Notes"
>> On 5/8/09 3:42 PM, "Bill Rhodes" wrote: >> >> Thanks to all who responded to my request for help and advice. I have >> spent the last day or so checking them all out. >> To Ward & Carl - no, OCR is not included in my Scanner which is an >> Epson Perfection 4490. To JLB, the docs I want to copy are way to long to >> do a split screen and type. That is what I am trying to avoid. And to >> Dennis, I have scanned as jpg. and saved to file but cannot do a c&p - not >> possible, and I do not want to insert an image into Legacy.To John R., I >> checked out IrisPro v.10 and it looks very good, but as you say it is >> "spendy" - way too much for my budget. To Grover O. & Gene Y. - I downloaded >> the Free OCR and it is easy to use and it works. The only drawback is that >> (at least with old copies of old docs) it comes up with some strange words & >> symbols which require a lot of correcting and cleaning up, but I may be able >> to live with it. To Dennis K. the Abbyyusa frexpress at $50 for the download >> version looks good. My question is, will it or any of the other for sale >> OCR's do a better job than the FreeOCR, or do they all work the same and >> produce innaccurate copies that have to be "cleaned up"? If Abbyy frexpress >> produces fairly clean & accurate copies it might be worth the $50. I would >> be interested in hearing your comments or suggestions. Sorry for replying to someone other than the OP, but I didn't receive his post (not plain text). *** Some OCR software can be trialed for 30 days before buying. ABBYY FineReader Express can't, but the Professional version can. They probably use the same scanning engine so basic results should be similar. And if the Professional version doesn't meet the OP's requirements then the Express version won't either. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Unable to copy scanned documents into Legacy "events" or "Notes"
Bill, I've been following this thread with interest. I must say I agree with Janis. Transcribing the documents, even just the essential parts, has helped me more than once to put some pieces of the puzzle together that I might not have seen if I were simply scanning and saving. Just my FWIW. (for what it's worth) Dede Holden On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: > > Bill, > > You should consider the possibility that the exercise of transcribing, and > then abstracting, the document(s) would be beneficial in a number of ways. I > always find that I learn so much in the process of transcribing. I see things > that I didn’t notice before, and somehow I just absorb the document in a more > meaningful way. I do have OCR software, and I do not use it (for genealogy) > at all. > > Do a Google search for genealogical transcription and abstraction guidelines, > for method. The NGS and BCG sites offer help on this subject. > > In brief: > > Preserve original spelling. You can insert your corrections in parenthesis, > if required for clarification. > There are divided opinions about line breaks, but I prefer to break each line > where it breaks in the original document, unless it is so lengthy that the > line breaks become absurdly cumbersome. > The transcription should carry your name, contact address (at least email), > and the date. > The transcription should carry a source citation. > If it is a deed, it should carry the date that the deed was drawn, the date > that it was proven or acknowledged (or the dower examined), and the date of > filing or recording. > Consistency is the key, but some people use italics for anything not in the > body of the document, and regular type face for the transcription material. > If it is a printed form, which has been filled in by pen, you may choose to > distinguish the printed portions from the penned portions by underlining the > latter, or using two different fonts. > > Sometimes there is no quick fix – and sometimes, the quick fix isn’t really a > fix. Just take a deep breath, and begin to read and understand your documents. > > Sorry if this seems pedantic – it is genuinely not my intent. Just trying to > pass along what it has taken me many years to learn (and am still learning). > It’s late, I’m tired, and I have probably left out some very important stuff. > That’s where the Google search comes in. > > Good luck with the project. Lovely to have too many documents! > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > On 5/8/09 3:42 PM, "Bill Rhodes" wrote: > > Thanks to all who responded to my request for help and advice. I have > spent the last day or so checking them all out. > To Ward & Carl - no, OCR is not included in my Scanner which is an Epson > Perfection 4490. To JLB, the docs I want to copy are way to long to do a > split screen and type. That is what I am trying to avoid. And to Dennis, I > have scanned as jpg. and saved to file but cannot do a c&p - not possible, > and I do not want to insert an image into Legacy.To John R., I checked out > IrisPro v.10 and it looks very good, but as you say it is "spendy" - way too > much for my budget. To Grover O. & Gene Y. - I downloaded the Free OCR and it > is easy to use and it works. The only drawback is that (at least with old > copies of old docs) it comes up with some strange words & symbols which > require a lot of correcting and cleaning up, but I may be able to live with > it. To Dennis K. the Abbyyusa frexpress at $50 for the download version looks > good. My question is, will it or any of the other for sale OCR's do a better > job than the FreeOCR, or do they all work the same and > produce innaccurate copies that have to be "cleaned up"? If Abbyy frexpress > produces fairly clean & accurate copies it might be worth the $50. I would be > interested in hearing your comments or suggestions. > Thanks again for eveyone's help - really great!! > > Bill Rhodes > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bill Rhodes wrote: > > I have somehow lost my original email and the replies to it, but I was told > by someone that to get scanned docs into Legacy I need Optical Reader > software (which makes sense) and that I could find free ones for download. > After a lot of searching on Google I was never able to find completely free > software - "free" usually becomes "free trial period" or "donation required", > etc. I finally ordered "SIMPLE OCR" - the free version with an obligatory $25 > donation. After downloading & installing - it does not work! I called them > and they do not support the free version. After some discussion they agreed > to refund the $25. So I am back to square one. I really do not want to > re-type all these records if there is a better way. I would welcome and all > any further ideas or suggestions. How do the rest of you folks do it? > > Bill Rhodes > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived
