RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" description. I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about how I set this up in the first place...). This is a SW source: Cemetery records > Grave markers,etc. > Online images. The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. Thanks, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > Paula, > > Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output > is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the > repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors > etc.) I'll have a look. > > Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? > > > Ron Ferguson > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence--unstuck!
Nope, the Wording Options for the marriage in question look fine. No "someone" on that screen. Spooky, though: I re-ran the report just to double-check, and voila! the "someone" is gone!! Sometime this evening, I added a census event to the marriage. Maybe that was the "trigger" necessary to update the wording options...? Up until that point, I didn't actually have any DATA entered for the marriage... I just knew that they were husband & wife. Maybe THAT's the key! Looking at the marriage window itself, you couldn't tell they were married?? Thanks, --Paula --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Boyd Miller wrote: > From: Boyd Miller > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 12:00 AM > First, where it comes from? See > Options > Customise > View > Edit default > marriage wording. If there is a marriage but the spouse is > unknown you get > the "someone" put in the spouse position in the > reports. > This "someone" should disappear when a spouse is added but > it sometimes > doesn't. In this case open the marriage that includes > the "someone" person > and go to the tab for "Wording Options". You will > probably see "married > someone" in the box in the middle of the screen. Just > delete the word > "someone" and save. > Boyd > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com > [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] > On Behalf > Of Paula Ryburn > Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 11:00 a.m. > To: LegacyUserGroup > Subject: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence > > > > Okay, this is for all you mystery lovers out there. > > I first entered a couple based on the child's census > listing, and here's how > it looked (basically) in the Ancestor Book: > > 10. KOYLE (just the last name) was born in Ireland. > KOYLE married someone > Unknown. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. > ... > 11. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. > Unknown married someone > KOYLE. Koyle was born in Ireland. > > Subsequently, I found a census listing for them, so I > entered their first > names, and here's how it looks now: > > 10. William KOYLE was born in 1835 in Ireland. > ... > William married someone > Mary. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. > ... > 11. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. > ... > Mary married someone William > KOYLE. William was born in 1835 in > Ireland. > > I have never noticed this word "someone" in the report > before, but that > doesn't mean it hasn't always worked that way. What > triggers using the word > "someone" ? Must have something to do with my having > added the individuals > without first names at first? But shouldn't that go > away now? (I mean, > even with just the surname of KOYLE, it shouldn't have been > there the first > time, right?) > > Thanks for your sleuthing. > --Paula > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release > Date: 06/11/09 > 17:59:00 > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.64/2170 - Release > Date: 06/11/09 > 17:59:00 > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence
First, where it comes from? See Options > Customise > View > Edit default marriage wording. If there is a marriage but the spouse is unknown you get the "someone" put in the spouse position in the reports. This "someone" should disappear when a spouse is added but it sometimes doesn't. In this case open the marriage that includes the "someone" person and go to the tab for "Wording Options". You will probably see "married someone" in the box in the middle of the screen. Just delete the word "someone" and save. Boyd -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 11:00 a.m. To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence Okay, this is for all you mystery lovers out there. I first entered a couple based on the child's census listing, and here's how it looked (basically) in the Ancestor Book: 10. KOYLE (just the last name) was born in Ireland. KOYLE married someone Unknown. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. ... 11. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. Unknown married someone KOYLE. Koyle was born in Ireland. Subsequently, I found a census listing for them, so I entered their first names, and here's how it looks now: 10. William KOYLE was born in 1835 in Ireland. ... William married someone Mary. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... 11. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... Mary married someone William KOYLE. William was born in 1835 in Ireland. I have never noticed this word "someone" in the report before, but that doesn't mean it hasn't always worked that way. What triggers using the word "someone" ? Must have something to do with my having added the individuals without first names at first? But shouldn't that go away now? (I mean, even with just the surname of KOYLE, it shouldn't have been there the first time, right?) Thanks for your sleuthing. --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/11/09 17:59:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.64/2170 - Release Date: 06/11/09 17:59:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] User Group Archives
Don't I remember there was an archive of the questions and answers from the Legacy User Group? I can't find it. I came in on the tailend of the ibid comments - doesn't that option work if we check it? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
If they ever get this to work correctly, it would be nice to have "op. cit" as well as "ibid." It would have been better if Legacy had expended all the energy on getting these facilities to work rather than spend all the time they have on the problem-ridden, confusing, and arbitrary Sourcewriter! Having several thousand sources, there is no way I would change now! Carolyn -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:49 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once Ward, You are basically correct and certainly the previous Legacy practice was to use "ibid" for the next occurance of the same Master Source to which it the appended any change in detail. To be honest, I'm more intrigued about working out how to do it, rather than its application! I am never very keen on uploading some 6000 webpages because of a change. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wnkwal...@rogers.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:11:33 -0400 > > Ron and Lester, > > Isn't 'ibid' meant to be used when the footnote immediately above (in the > list of footnotes) is the one that is being cited again? In Legacy reports, > we don't have control over the sequence of footnotes. Other citations might > appear inbetween the first and subsequent citation of a particular master > source, depending on the report and the data populated. How would the reader > know to which previous footnote the 'ibid' citation refers? Furthermore, > what is the difference between printing 'ibid' in a footnote, using a new > footnote number, and simply re-using the old footnote number in the report? > It appears that Legacy does the latter in some cases, presumably when the > subsequent citation is absolutely identical in every way to the first > citation. > > Another problem with bulk-editing "ibid" into override fields is that > subsequent citations of a master source are meant to allow for certain > differences in the source details. This is poorly implemented and needs > fixing, but the concept is still valid for abbreviating some of the > information in the citation, while printing key differences (like a page > number of a book, or the name on a tombstone). The concept is similar to > printing "Ibid., p.33", if we could use ibid at all. One would need to > manually craft the override for each citation, in order to ensure that the > right data appears. > > Paula, > > I see what you mean with the "include on reports" "first time" or "each > time". I can't think of what else that could mean other than for initial and > subsequent citations of the master source. However, the feature does exist > for basic sources too, which don't (to my knowledge) otherwise have the > concept of subsequent citations. Maybe there is another meaning. The on-line > Help does not address it. If there is no other interpretation, then I agree > that this is a bug. The field should be one that, by definition, does not > disappear in subsequent citations if you check "each time". > > Ward > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:31 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > > > >> From: les...@davison.org.nz >> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >> 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> >> >> Paula, >> >> The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved but it works the >> way I described. >> >> Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent entries as I >> hate to see the same thing printed over and over again. This can be a >> problem on Web pages, particularly if someone is on dial-up. >> >> In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it was possible to >> select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I wish this could be reinstated. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> _ >> >> I miss the "ibid" feature, too. >> >> Lester >> > > Lester, > > I have just had a thought. I could take up my own suggestion to Paula and > change all the second citation overides to "ibid"!! > > Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have Access) but well > worth having a look at. > > Ron Ferguson _
RE: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence
Paula: I believe this is a bug. There was a thread on the topic a few months ago with a subject something like "Mary married Someone." It seems that once the "someone" is triggered, adding a name to the field doesn't turn it off but only adds it to the name in the field so you get "John married someone Mary." I don't recall whether this was ever reported. I wonder if some sequence of unlinking and reattaching the parents would clear the "someone." Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence Okay, this is for all you mystery lovers out there. I first entered a couple based on the child's census listing, and here's how it looked (basically) in the Ancestor Book: 10. KOYLE (just the last name) was born in Ireland. KOYLE married someone Unknown. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. ... 11. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. Unknown married someone KOYLE. Koyle was born in Ireland. Subsequently, I found a census listing for them, so I entered their first names, and here's how it looks now: 10. William KOYLE was born in 1835 in Ireland. ... William married someone Mary. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... 11. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... Mary married someone William KOYLE. William was born in 1835 in Ireland. I have never noticed this word "someone" in the report before, but that doesn't mean it hasn't always worked that way. What triggers using the word "someone" ? Must have something to do with my having added the individuals without first names at first? But shouldn't that go away now? (I mean, even with just the surname of KOYLE, it shouldn't have been there the first time, right?) Thanks for your sleuthing. --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
Ward, You are basically correct and certainly the previous Legacy practice was to use "ibid" for the next occurance of the same Master Source to which it the appended any change in detail. To be honest, I'm more intrigued about working out how to do it, rather than its application! I am never very keen on uploading some 6000 webpages because of a change. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wnkwal...@rogers.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:11:33 -0400 > > Ron and Lester, > > Isn't 'ibid' meant to be used when the footnote immediately above (in the > list of footnotes) is the one that is being cited again? In Legacy reports, > we don't have control over the sequence of footnotes. Other citations might > appear inbetween the first and subsequent citation of a particular master > source, depending on the report and the data populated. How would the reader > know to which previous footnote the 'ibid' citation refers? Furthermore, > what is the difference between printing 'ibid' in a footnote, using a new > footnote number, and simply re-using the old footnote number in the report? > It appears that Legacy does the latter in some cases, presumably when the > subsequent citation is absolutely identical in every way to the first > citation. > > Another problem with bulk-editing "ibid" into override fields is that > subsequent citations of a master source are meant to allow for certain > differences in the source details. This is poorly implemented and needs > fixing, but the concept is still valid for abbreviating some of the > information in the citation, while printing key differences (like a page > number of a book, or the name on a tombstone). The concept is similar to > printing "Ibid., p.33", if we could use ibid at all. One would need to > manually craft the override for each citation, in order to ensure that the > right data appears. > > Paula, > > I see what you mean with the "include on reports" "first time" or "each > time". I can't think of what else that could mean other than for initial and > subsequent citations of the master source. However, the feature does exist > for basic sources too, which don't (to my knowledge) otherwise have the > concept of subsequent citations. Maybe there is another meaning. The on-line > Help does not address it. If there is no other interpretation, then I agree > that this is a bug. The field should be one that, by definition, does not > disappear in subsequent citations if you check "each time". > > Ward > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:31 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > > > >> From: les...@davison.org.nz >> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >> 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> >> >> Paula, >> >> The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved but it works the >> way I described. >> >> Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent entries as I >> hate to see the same thing printed over and over again. This can be a >> problem on Web pages, particularly if someone is on dial-up. >> >> In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it was possible to >> select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I wish this could be reinstated. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> _ >> >> I miss the "ibid" feature, too. >> >> Lester >> > > Lester, > > I have just had a thought. I could take up my own suggestion to Paula and > change all the second citation overides to "ibid"!! > > Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have Access) but well > worth having a look at. > > Ron Ferguson _ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
Ron and Lester, Isn't 'ibid' meant to be used when the footnote immediately above (in the list of footnotes) is the one that is being cited again? In Legacy reports, we don't have control over the sequence of footnotes. Other citations might appear inbetween the first and subsequent citation of a particular master source, depending on the report and the data populated. How would the reader know to which previous footnote the 'ibid' citation refers? Furthermore, what is the difference between printing 'ibid' in a footnote, using a new footnote number, and simply re-using the old footnote number in the report? It appears that Legacy does the latter in some cases, presumably when the subsequent citation is absolutely identical in every way to the first citation. Another problem with bulk-editing "ibid" into override fields is that subsequent citations of a master source are meant to allow for certain differences in the source details. This is poorly implemented and needs fixing, but the concept is still valid for abbreviating some of the information in the citation, while printing key differences (like a page number of a book, or the name on a tombstone). The concept is similar to printing "Ibid., p.33", if we could use ibid at all. One would need to manually craft the override for each citation, in order to ensure that the right data appears. Paula, I see what you mean with the "include on reports" "first time" or "each time". I can't think of what else that could mean other than for initial and subsequent citations of the master source. However, the feature does exist for basic sources too, which don't (to my knowledge) otherwise have the concept of subsequent citations. Maybe there is another meaning. The on-line Help does not address it. If there is no other interpretation, then I agree that this is a bug. The field should be one that, by definition, does not disappear in subsequent citations if you check "each time". Ward - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:31 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once From: les...@davison.org.nz Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> Paula, The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved but it works the way I described. Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent entries as I hate to see the same thing printed over and over again. This can be a problem on Web pages, particularly if someone is on dial-up. In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it was possible to select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I wish this could be reinstated. Ron Ferguson _ I miss the "ibid" feature, too. Lester Lester, I have just had a thought. I could take up my own suggestion to Paula and change all the second citation overides to "ibid"!! Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have Access) but well worth having a look at. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] the word 'someone' stuck in sentence
Okay, this is for all you mystery lovers out there. I first entered a couple based on the child's census listing, and here's how it looked (basically) in the Ancestor Book: 10. KOYLE (just the last name) was born in Ireland. KOYLE married someone Unknown. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. ... 11. Unknown was born in Pennsylvania. Unknown married someone KOYLE. Koyle was born in Ireland. Subsequently, I found a census listing for them, so I entered their first names, and here's how it looks now: 10. William KOYLE was born in 1835 in Ireland. ... William married someone Mary. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... 11. Mary was born in 1841 in Maryland. ... Mary married someone William KOYLE. William was born in 1835 in Ireland. I have never noticed this word "someone" in the report before, but that doesn't mean it hasn't always worked that way. What triggers using the word "someone" ? Must have something to do with my having added the individuals without first names at first? But shouldn't that go away now? (I mean, even with just the surname of KOYLE, it shouldn't have been there the first time, right?) Thanks for your sleuthing. --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] I see Ibid. available in Customize...?
Yup, that's what I'm saying. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:54:16 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: [LegacyUG] I see Ibid. available in Customize...? > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > Sources tab, second option on the right. > > Mine is checked. > > Are you saying, though, that the reports don't do it anymore (even if the > option box is still in Customize)? > > Thanks, > --Paula > _ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
That's where mine go, Paula, but I never was a purist, or a stickler for following "the book"! Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:37:07 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > As a retired programmer, I gotta love your spirit in finding that solution! > > Now that I'm thinking about it, though... going back to a different > thread: If I had entered all my cemeteries in the Location table, then I > wouldn't need them in this pesky "Text" field. more to ponder! > > Thanks again, > --Paula > > > --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > >> From: ronald ferguson >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once >> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 5:31 AM >> >> >> >>> From: les...@davison.org.nz >>> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only >> once >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Paula, >>> >>> >>> >>> The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be >> improved but it works the way I described. >>> >>> >>> >>> Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for >> subsequent entries as I hate to see the same thing printed >> over and over again. This can be a problem on Web pages, >> particularly if someone is on dial-up. >>> >>> >>> >>> In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source >> Writer it was possible to select "ibid" for repeated Sources >> and I wish this could be reinstated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _ >>> >>> >>> I miss the "ibid" feature, too. >>> >>> Lester >>> >> >> Lester, >> >> I have just had a thought. I could take up my own >> suggestion to Paula and change all the second citation >> overides to "ibid"!! >> >> Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have >> Access) but well worth having a look at. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> _ >> *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web >> pages >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> _ _ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors etc.) I'll have a look. Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:50:20 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > At the risk of beating a dead horse... > > What I'm seeing as the second printed citation in my end notes is NOT what is > shown as the subsequent citation. This source with identical detail is cited > on 4 individuals for birth & death data. > > Here's the first (and desired only) citation printed: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images > (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker; Stewart > Cemetery, McLean Co. > > Here's the second (and undesired) citation printed: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images > (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker. > > And here's what the subsequent citation is supposed to look like: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project > > As you can see, more than just the master source "Text" field is still being > printed on the second citation. According to the subsequent citation example, > everything but the title should be dropped off. So, I don't think the problem > as I've stated it is due to the subsequent citation logice. Do you? > > ("Ryburn grave marker" is what I've entered on the detail---I don't know what > the system thinks should show from the detail on "subsequent citations") > > And while I'm thinking about it... Is it normal for the source master "Text" > to print AFTER the detail? (just asking) > > Thanks, > --Paula > _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] source types - changed
'Due to a scheduling error on the part of the hotel, the dates for the 40th Annual Southern California Genealogy Jamboree have been changed. The new dates are Friday through Sunday, June 26-28, 2009.' It is not Millenia's convention, but they show up every year. Rich in LA CA --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Nina K. Johnson wrote: > From: Nina K. Johnson > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated? > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 7:43 AM > When is the convention with Mellenia > in LA? > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com > [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] > On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:33 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated? > > > Right now my census records are named this way. > 'USA, IL, Cook, Chicago, 1930'. Whenever the converter is > operational (if > ever), I will convert all my stuff. The multiple field > types should make it > possible to find all Chicago or all 1930, or other data > choices. Because of > my over 2000 sources, I am numbed by the task. > Since my local society is having a convention this month, > and Millenia is > booked I will probably discuss the situation. > Rich in LA CA > > --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Paula Ryburn > wrote: > > > From: Paula Ryburn > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not > integrated? > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > Rich, I am where you are. Not quite so many, but my > > people are concentrated in certain areas. I am > again > > wrestling with the county vs. locality level of > splitting, > > because with the new Source Writer thing, they seem to > force > > you to go to the detail level for the locality. Why > do > > I think I will be looking at this issue again a couple > years > > from now? haha > > --Paula > > > > --- On Tue, 6/9/09, RICHARD SCHULTHIES > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In my case, it is also a function of quantity > per > > source. > > > In some cities I have over 50 each, on the > various > > census > > > dates, and in that state over 200 per, so I need > to > > split > > > some up, and decided to maintain uniformity over > the > > > database. I was a splitter before the 'name' was > > coined, or > > > at least before I heard it. > > > Rich in LA CA > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Jenny M Benson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Jenny M Benson > > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new > not > > > integrated? > > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 2:21 AM > > > > Paula Ryburn wrote > > > > > But I have dozens of census sources > > > > > > > > I am always rather amazed at how much > "splitting" > > of > > > Census > > > > sources seems to go on with LUGgers > researching > > in the > > > US - > > > > a separate one for every county or even > every > > city for > > > every > > > > year quite often, I think. Perhaps this is > > necessary > > > with > > > > such a vast country. > > > > > > > > My own US-dwelling relatives are so few that > I > > can > > > happily > > > > work with one Master Source for each year! > For > > more > > > > local countries I have one for each region > (as > > > required) for > > > > each year (regions being England, Scotland, > > Wales, > > > Isle of > > > > Man and Channel Islands) so from 1841 to > 1911 a > > > maximum of > > > > 40 Master Sources if I had people in every > region > > for > > > every > > > > Census (which I don't!) > > > > -- Jenny M Benson > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text...--CORRECTION
CORRECTED (I apologize for errors in the first post) > > At the risk of beating a dead horse... > > What I'm seeing as the second printed citation in my end > notes is NOT what is shown as the subsequent citation. > This source with identical detail is cited on 4 individuals > for birth & death data. The contents of the master source Text field is > "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." The detail citation is "Ryburn grave marker". > > Here's the first (and desired only) citation printed: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone > Project, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos > ), Ryburn grave marker; Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co. > > Here's the second (and undesired) citation printed: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone > Project, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos > ), Ryburn grave marker. > > And here's what the subsequent citation is supposed to look > like: > > Illinois Ancestors Tombstone > Project > > As you can see, only the master source "Text" > field is dropped from the second citation. And more of the master source > still being printed on the second citation than is supposed to... > According to the subsequent citation example, everything but > the title should be dropped off. So, I don't think the > problem as I've stated it is due to the subsequent citation > logic. Do you? > > Thanks, > --Paula > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated?
Keep us posted. ;) Thanks, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > > Right now my census records are named this way. > 'USA, IL, Cook, Chicago, 1930'. Whenever the converter is > operational (if ever), I will convert all my stuff. The > multiple field types should make it possible to find all > Chicago or all 1930, or other data choices. Because of my > over 2000 sources, I am numbed by the task. > Since my local society is having a convention this month, > and Millenia is booked I will probably discuss the > situation. > Rich in LA CA > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
At the risk of beating a dead horse... What I'm seeing as the second printed citation in my end notes is NOT what is shown as the subsequent citation. This source with identical detail is cited on 4 individuals for birth & death data. Here's the first (and desired only) citation printed: Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker; Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co. Here's the second (and undesired) citation printed: Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker. And here's what the subsequent citation is supposed to look like: Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project As you can see, more than just the master source "Text" field is still being printed on the second citation. According to the subsequent citation example, everything but the title should be dropped off. So, I don't think the problem as I've stated it is due to the subsequent citation logice. Do you? ("Ryburn grave marker" is what I've entered on the detail---I don't know what the system thinks should show from the detail on "subsequent citations") And while I'm thinking about it... Is it normal for the source master "Text" to print AFTER the detail? (just asking) Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] I see Ibid. available in Customize...?
Sources tab, second option on the right. Mine is checked. Are you saying, though, that the reports don't do it anymore (even if the option box is still in Customize)? Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
As a retired programmer, I gotta love your spirit in finding that solution! Now that I'm thinking about it, though... going back to a different thread: If I had entered all my cemeteries in the Location table, then I wouldn't need them in this pesky "Text" field. more to ponder! Thanks again, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > From: ronald ferguson > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 5:31 AM > > > > > From: les...@davison.org.nz > > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only > once > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > > > > > > 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> > > > > > > > > > > Paula, > > > > > > > > The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be > improved but it works the way I described. > > > > > > > > Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for > subsequent entries as I hate to see the same thing printed > over and over again. This can be a problem on Web pages, > particularly if someone is on dial-up. > > > > > > > > In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source > Writer it was possible to select "ibid" for repeated Sources > and I wish this could be reinstated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Ferguson > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > I miss the "ibid" feature, too. > > > > Lester > > > > Lester, > > I have just had a thought. I could take up my own > suggestion to Paula and change all the second citation > overides to "ibid"!! > > Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have > Access) but well worth having a look at. > > Ron Ferguson > _ > *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web > pages > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > _ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
Aha! That's what happened to "Ibid." In my tidying up, I had been looking at a report I printed a couple years ago (yikes!) and saw the "Ibid." citation there. On the other hand, as far as I can tell, if the master source and detail citation match up perfectly, when you're printing END NOTES, the citation will only print once anyway. What's happening to me, that I found unexpected is that the citation is printing twice once with the master source "Text" field information and once without it. So, I guess it is nothing I'm doing, is it? Is there a place, maybe in Customize? where I can turn on/off this "subsequent citation" thing? Maybe I should check my source printing options again. Thanks for your time. --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > From: ronald ferguson > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:48 AM > > Paula, > > The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved > but it works the way I described. > > Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent > entries as I hate to see the same thing printed over and > over again. This can be a problem on Web pages, particularly > if someone is on dial-up. > > In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it > was possible to select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I > wish this could be reinstated. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web > pages > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:45:53 -0700 > > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only > once > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > > > > Ron, We are almost on the same wavelength. Try this: > > > > On Family View, click on the Books Icon and then Edit > Source (not Detail). > > > > On the right it also shows how the Source will appear > in the first and subsequent citations. > > > > However, if you click on the "Text/Comments" tab and > enter something in the Text block, then click "Include on > Reports" ***and then click on "Each time"... > wouldn't you expect what's in the Text block to be included > on every citation printed?? > > > > On my screen I have entered and clicked all of that, > but on the right it still shows the "Subsequent citation" > without the Text block contents. (In fact, it's much shorter > than the first citation... have I forgotten something > about source citations that I learned in college??) > > > > Thanks again, > > --Paula > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/10/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > > >> > >> Paula, > >> > >> It is difficult to check this as our files will > be > >> different. However, if I understand you correctly > in Family > >> View click on the Books Icon and then Edit Detail. > On the > >> right you will see how the Source will appear in > the first > >> and subsequent citations. > >> > >> You can use the Overides>Subsequent Citations > to change > >> what you see. > >> > >> Ron Ferguson > _ > > MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos > and more. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Portable Legacy & MojoPac
Gayle >From your MojoPac virtual desktop click on 'Start' (bottom left), then 'All Programs'. You should find the Legacy7Setup file, double click to install to your USB Drive (much slower than normal so give it time). When installed you will find the shortcut appears on your MojoPac desktop. That's what I did and it worked for me. Now I have to transfer my customised settings from the Legacy version on my 'C' drive. Can anyone tell me where these settings are saved? Let me know if you need more help. Regards, Graham -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Gayle Mann Sent: 10 June 2009 01:46 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Portable Legacy & MojoPac I loaded MojoPac on a USB Drive and it showed up with MojoPacInstaller.exe. When I clicked on that the screen it showed M start.exe. When I clicked on that I ended up with a screen where the top line shows Mojo/Pac---Host-switch--- ?(help) O, hide line & exit. On the bottom of the screen I see Mojo/Pac, Recycle Bin and a note about taking a tour of XP. It appears to be loaded on the USB drive, but I don't know what to do next. I'm the world's worst at downloads!!! I downloaded the free version of Legacy 7 onto this same USB Drive, but I never got an opportunity to insert the password they suggested, nor did I get a chance to insert my deluxe version customer #. The USB drive screen showed Legacy7setup.exe. When I clicked on this it appears to have downloaded, but I don't know where! It sure doesn't show on the USB screen. My Legacy data on C does not appear to have been affected. Any suggestions? Gayle Mann in Canada Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated?
When is the convention with Mellenia in LA? -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated? Right now my census records are named this way. 'USA, IL, Cook, Chicago, 1930'. Whenever the converter is operational (if ever), I will convert all my stuff. The multiple field types should make it possible to find all Chicago or all 1930, or other data choices. Because of my over 2000 sources, I am numbed by the task. Since my local society is having a convention this month, and Millenia is booked I will probably discuss the situation. Rich in LA CA --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Paula Ryburn wrote: > From: Paula Ryburn > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not integrated? > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:04 PM > > Rich, I am where you are. Not quite so many, but my > people are concentrated in certain areas. I am again > wrestling with the county vs. locality level of splitting, > because with the new Source Writer thing, they seem to force > you to go to the detail level for the locality. Why do > I think I will be looking at this issue again a couple years > from now? haha > --Paula > > --- On Tue, 6/9/09, RICHARD SCHULTHIES > wrote: > > > > > In my case, it is also a function of quantity per > source. > > In some cities I have over 50 each, on the various > census > > dates, and in that state over 200 per, so I need to > split > > some up, and decided to maintain uniformity over the > > database. I was a splitter before the 'name' was > coined, or > > at least before I heard it. > > Rich in LA CA > > > > --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Jenny M Benson > > wrote: > > > > > From: Jenny M Benson > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source types - new not > > integrated? > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 2:21 AM > > > Paula Ryburn wrote > > > > But I have dozens of census sources > > > > > > I am always rather amazed at how much "splitting" > of > > Census > > > sources seems to go on with LUGgers researching > in the > > US - > > > a separate one for every county or even every > city for > > every > > > year quite often, I think. Perhaps this is > necessary > > with > > > such a vast country. > > > > > > My own US-dwelling relatives are so few that I > can > > happily > > > work with one Master Source for each year! For > more > > > local countries I have one for each region (as > > required) for > > > each year (regions being England, Scotland, > Wales, > > Isle of > > > Man and Channel Islands) so from 1841 to 1911 a > > maximum of > > > 40 Master Sources if I had people in every region > for > > every > > > Census (which I don't!) > > > -- Jenny M Benson > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] image stored multiple times?
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:33:47 -0700 (PDT), Paula Ryburn wrote: >My goal was to "store" the images (which are pages for various localities in a >county) at the detail level rather than at the master (county) level. In the >future, I would have one source master per year/state/county, with the detail >citations indicating the locality, etc... that seems to be the way SW >wants it for US census data. > >First, I pulled up a source in master lists, did a 'show lists' and tagged >everyone citing that source. > >Then, I set up a source clipboard for the master "as is". with the >locality in the name, a comment about how I obtained the image (a page for >that locality), and the image linked. In the detail on the clipboard I put in >the locality, page, dwelling, etc. (as normal on SW census detail), a comment >about how I obtained the image, and the image linked. > >Third, I went through the tagged individuals. For each, I clicked on their >sources icon (the books), removed the old citation(s), and added the clipboard >citation in place of it. (now that I'm typing this, it sounds like a lot of >work for not a lot of difference.. maybe I'm missing something??) > >After all tagged individuals had been "re-cited" I pulled up the source master >and took out the locality.. removed it from the name, removed the comment >about how I obtained the image, and removed the image. (I also put the name >of the locality in the "Comment" field, with the intent to have that field >contain all localities that have been cited for that county... may or may not >be useful, but easy to do now as I'm doing this.) > >So, I end up with a master source for the year/state/county, and all the >detail citations have the image linked in. > >Did that make sense??? Yes. I don't use V7 or SW so I can't duplicate your problem. But aren't the backed up images just stored in a .zip file? It should be easy enough to compare the pre and post .zip files to find where that extra 2-3 meg are coming from. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
> From: les...@davison.org.nz > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:12:36 +1200 > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > > 2009/6/11 ronald ferguson> > > > > > Paula, > > > > The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved but it works the > way I described. > > > > Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent entries as I hate > to see the same thing printed over and over again. This can be a problem on > Web pages, particularly if someone is on dial-up. > > > > In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it was possible to > select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I wish this could be reinstated. > > > > > > Ron Ferguson > > > > _ > > > I miss the "ibid" feature, too. > > Lester > Lester, I have just had a thought. I could take up my own suggestion to Paula and change all the second citation overides to "ibid"!! Guess I'll have to use OpenOffice to do it (I don't have Access) but well worth having a look at. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once
2009/6/11 ronald ferguson > > Paula, > > The wording "appear each time" no doubt could be improved but it works the > way I described. > > Personally, I prefer the abreviated version for subsequent entries as I > hate to see the same thing printed over and over again. This can be a > problem on Web pages, particularly if someone is on dial-up. > > In fact, prior to the introduction of the Source Writer it was possible to > select "ibid" for repeated Sources and I wish this could be reinstated. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > I miss the "ibid" feature, too. Lester