Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy negligent on PDFs
Very well said, Brian. I am impressed at how many suggestions we don't have to give because people are leaving other programs to come to the program that *does* listen and take our suggestions. One suggestion that I would like to see is something that was on FTM 7.0 many years ago when I last used it. After the name of the person highlighted in that segment in the Descendant Book, I would like to see just the person's name, birth and death years, and the first name and number of the direct line descendants so it is easier to look back through their line. After that info, then the sentence structure of the report can continue. I have offered this suggestion recently and trust that it will be considered. Genealogy is not a linear thing so we need extra help going through the linear presentation of it. I switched to Legacy because it had what I was looking for, I heard nothing but complaints about the possible upgrades that I didn't get of the other software, and the demo on the website years ago was so well done that it sold me too. Please don't suggest that people leave. Instead we need to realize that genealogy requires painstaking research. Because of the time investment and issues with computers too, it is very easy for people to panic and get stressed beyond belief. Once they pose the question here, they typically have spent plenty of time trying to figure it out themselves and thus tempers and patience can be really tested. This list needs to calm the nerves and bring logic back into play where emotions are obviously running high. I do suggest that people purchase the training DVDs. So many questions posed here could be answered by familiarity with the program that is covered so well there. It is well worth the low cost that is involved. I have been purchasing the DVDs whenever I upgrade and plan to continue doing so. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: The last thing Millennia Corp. would want is to NOT hear any complaints, unless they thought they were successful in creating a perfect piece of software. If they don't hear complaints, then that would mean the product isn't selling. They have always invited suggestions for improvements and have always wanted to hear about areas that were giving problems. That's why they do beta testing otherwise they'd just write the code, package the product, and say don't call us. But some people by their nature have difficult expressing their complaint and may tend to go to extremes with exaggerations. This is a User Group in which Millennia hopes we can all offer suggestions, work-arounds, or whatever it takes for each of us to use the product with relative ease and to share our experiences. I've always been amazed at the methods all of us can come up with to help others learn different strategies or other means of accomplishing the end result. Telling someone to get off the list is not in all of our best interest, unless that person has become obnoxious and disruptive to the group. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy negligent on PDFs I don't understand. If y'all have so many complaints about Legacy why don't you stop using it and get off this list? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living
If you go to ToolsAdvanced Set Living, then you can have the program locate everyone who is likely to be over 120 old and set them as not living. The program will use birth or death dates of parents, children or anyone else to figure out if the person could possibly be 120 years of age or older. Then the person is set as not living so that you don't have to do it all manually. You can even see a list of who was changed from living to not living. This is a feature highlighted on the training DVDs for version 7.0. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Jim Walton wrote: If you are using Legacy 7 there is an entry under CustomizeData Entry where you can set the age at which a person is Presumed Dead. It defaults to ask if over 90 and set as dead if over 120. You can change these years then hit the Apply button and it will update your database accordingly. It only changes records with no death date entered, so you might set it to set everyone at 80 years, at least temporarily. This may not get them all, but it should clean up the bulk of them. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote: Would someone tell me how to do this search? Thanks. Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living I don't think so Ron. I tagged over 1000 people in my file that fit the following criteria... no death date set as living Over 3/4 of those tagged are people that would have died before 1900 and couldn't possibly be alive. They had parents with birth dates of 1750 or children with birthdates of 1790 (you get the idea). I am manually going in and marking them as dead. I realize it is partly my problem for not estimating birth and death dates or manually marking them as dead when I enter them. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living Michele, That is not so. It will look at ancestors and descendants and decide if they would have been over whatever date you have set for the life span. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Bogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:48:37 -0400 I have the advanced set living thing set. It automatically marks those over 110 dead but that only works if you have birth and death dates! michele - Original Message - From: Gene Young To: Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living Michele Lewis wrote: I just figured something out the hard way. If you don't put a death date for someone it defaults to living even though their parents and children died in the 1700s! The significance to his is when you upload your file with all living persons blocked out a lot of your file is blocked out that shouldn't be. I am having to go through and find all these (I did it with a simple search, any body with no date of death that is marked living). michele From the help file; Advanced Set Living There are several Legacy reports, plus web pages, where the privacy of anyone whose Living status is set to Yes is protected by suppressing all personal details. When creating these reports, no information is included for ancestors born centuries ago if they are inadvertently left set as Living. Normally an individual's Living status is set at the time they are manually entered. The process is automatic if their death or burial information is entered or their birth or christening date is more than 120 years ago. If no birth, christening, death, or burial information is entered, their status remains at the default Yes, if not changed to No. It is an easy task to set the Living status of a few individuals manually, but the task can become formidable when adding hundreds or thousands of new people to your family file with a GEDCOM import. This is where the Advanced Set Living feature comes in handy. This option does an intelligent search through your entire family file
Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)
Paula wrote Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that they use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g., census listing. But they use est 1820 when they're using some other algorithm to come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations. Anything with abt can help research; anything with est is just a help to identify people in the list. I use cal (calculated) for birthdates arrived at from ages in different records (which seems to be more descriptive) and abt for guesses. I have my tree on GenesReunited which wants a year (exact or estimated) of birth for each individual. If I have conflicting ages I use cal and then a range of years. Charlotte Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
Dave Naylor wrote: On 30 Sep 2009 Mike Fry wrote: Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message that's very long and multiple, shorter messages? *Every* message has to be read when it's a digest. When they're separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, which ones to read. Furthermore, some messages can be automatically routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, format or writer ;-)) Another disadvantage with Digest messages. People don't know how to reply to them. So they quote the whole message in their reply and forget to change the Subject. Also, a lot of email software doesn't 'know' how to properly handle a Message Digest i.e. how to navigate through it, message by message. Good software would keep track of which 'bit' of the digest you were replying to and set up the reply accordingly (Subject and quoted matter). -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you get a dialog which looks like... http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and clicked Print Multimedia List. Big thanks to Bill for pointing out this feature which I had not discovered before and which I know is going to be very useful. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:07:46 +0100, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and clicked Print Multimedia List. I don't get it in V7/100 standard. It's either a deluxe feature or something they fixed since build 100. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
That's a good point about digest messages being hard to respond to, and sometimes they respond to the entire digest with all of the messages. Scratch that idea. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mike Fry Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events Dave Naylor wrote: On 30 Sep 2009 Mike Fry wrote: Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message that's very long and multiple, shorter messages? *Every* message has to be read when it's a digest. When they're separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, which ones to read. Furthermore, some messages can be automatically routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, format or writer ;-)) Another disadvantage with Digest messages. People don't know how to reply to them. So they quote the whole message in their reply and forget to change the Subject. Also, a lot of email software doesn't 'know' how to properly handle a Message Digest i.e. how to navigate through it, message by message. Good software would keep track of which 'bit' of the digest you were replying to and set up the reply accordingly (Subject and quoted matter). -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
No, Dennis gets all the credit. I didn't know about it myself until he told me. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events Dennis M. Kowallek wrote Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you get a dialog which looks like... http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and clicked Print Multimedia List. Big thanks to Bill for pointing out this feature which I had not discovered before and which I know is going to be very useful. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events
And I get one per day that I can scan (the subject lines of the posts listed at the top of the digest), instead of dozens of emails on some days that I have to delete as with the LUG list. I see little difference between scanning a list of subject lines in a digest email, and scanning a list of emails in a folder devoted to one mailing list. Much the same action. With the individual posts, though, you can delete those that don't interest you - or you've read and no longer need - and keep the ones that you want to file away for future reference, or respond to later. With a digest, you have to then wade through all the posts again to find that/those you wanted to refer to again. If you have your list mail diverted to its own folder then you can still easily delete blocks of individual posts that don't interest you without opening them, nor without having to hit the delete key for each one. Highlighting in the mail box works much the same as in other areas - click on the top one, hold down the Shift key and use your Down Arrow key to mark the desired (or otherwise) emails. The Ctrl key is useful, too, for when you want to mark odd emails instead of all in a block. Then delete with one press of the Delete key. This probably won't work in web-based services, but it should in email programs installed on your computer (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc). An advantage of receiving individual posts, over the digest where it is available, is timeliness. The digest is produced periodically, often once a day. Individual posts are sent out as they happen. So if you're looking for something to read, they're there waiting for you. Using a rule or filter in your mailbox to separate out the list posts to their own folder keeps them away from your other mail, so you can ignore the list until you are ready to look at it. I have written instructions for setting a rule or filter on a variety of email programs and services that I've come in contact with, and put them on my web site - see http://wendy.howard.googlepages.com/How-to.htm#RuleFilter The page is a bit dated now, but the basics won't have changed much in newer versions. *Almost* all email programs and services have filters or rules and the ability to divert mail to a folder or mark it in some way to distinguish it from other mail. With proper management and good understanding, individual posts will always be a superior service than a digest. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question for Ron Ferguson
Ron, Can I contact you off list with some questions on the Legacy Generated web pages and the errors contained therin? Thanks, -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.comxa.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question for Ron Ferguson
No problem Gene, Remember also that there is the WUL Group which is set up for that purpose at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where a number of experienced users can contributed. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Gene Young wrote: Ron, Can I contact you off list with some questions on the Legacy Generated web pages and the errors contained therin? Thanks, -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.comxa.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
