Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search
Ellen wrote: what Family Search was like. > Ellen, to get into New Familysearch for now you have to be LDS and set up an account on that site, using membership number and other personal data. Almost all of the areas of the world except parts of Utah have access and the rest of Utah should be on soon. Sometime in the future, it appears, non-members will have access, undoubtedly as "read only." Even when Legacy can sync, you wouldn't be able to access without your own account. It is set up as a pedigree and family group system, so submitters are only entering their own family info, each new addition has to be connected as a child. spouse or parent to a previous one. Charlotte Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Copy individuals between Files
I have just tried this and it didn't work as I expected, but I think I have figured out how it does work. Just looking for confirmation that I've got it right. Was copying a single individual. In both files, the parents exist with identical individual and marriage data. In my file, (on left) I have only one child. In the file (on right) I am copying from, these parents have 7 children. In split screen view, I first clicked on right screen to bring the person I wanted to copy the main (female) position. I then dragged that person into the children area on the left (my file). I answered copy just the single individual, said no to backup (I just created one minutes before) and said no to go to merge. I expected that the person would be a child of the parents onto which I dragged the person. But, she was an unattached person, which I then linked to the parents (add a daughter-link to an existing person). Is this the way it is supposed to work, or did I do something wrong? Paul Gray Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry. thought I sent privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Mary Young To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 8:58:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : > That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not > only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people > connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. > > I know many people have good intentions posting their information to > internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to > correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I > said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not > so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the > people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with > sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it > even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. > > Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my > former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when > nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no > information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now > I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet > but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private > collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other > people get this information? > > By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also > purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have > been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and > found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but > Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only > remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor > being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter > was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. > > So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. > Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they > bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Mary Horner > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates > > > Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on > line. ' > > The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and > Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I > do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates > others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is > going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there > to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time > I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what > about all the poor people who don't know better? > Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing directories for pictures
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:52:21 -0500, "Elsie Saar" wrote: >I have put my database and pictures on an external hard drive so >that I can use my database at another location that has Legacy. I >thought I could go to Options/Customize/Locations and change the path >to read e:\Legacy\SS pics but that doesn't seem to work. You need to go to Options|Customize|Locations and click on View Current List of Multimedia Locations. Then select the path and click Change. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] individual emails vs. digest format
Julie, I have been monitoring this list for a while now and find that it is used almost like instant messaging. I subscribe to several digest formatted lists and find them easier to deal with for several reasons: 1. Posted information and/or questions are written carefully and more completely because the list is only distributed once a day. That eliminates the "chat" that takes place in this list. 2. It is easier to skim for topics I want to read about. 3. The lists are monitored and rules are applied to everyone. However, this list has a totally different character. The constant messaging results in more "group" discussions and a more intimate contact. It seems to be more fun for the frequent participants of the list but overwhelming to those of us who have very little time to review all the messages. Since this list doesn't support digest mode, these points are moot. This list "is what it is" and it will not suit everyone. Suzanne http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] "half" relationships
I have another question. I'm using Legacy 7 with XP. I'm having a problem with half-siblings/aunts/uncles, etc. They appear in the children's list and the relationship calculator correctly. But when I run set relationships, they are listed as full siblings/aunts/uncles, etc. What am I doing incorrectly. They use to appear as halves. Elsie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Changing directories for pictures
Hi, I have my Legacy pictures in a directory such as c:\Legacy\SS pics. I have put my database and pictures on an external hard drive so that I can use my database at another location that has Legacy. I thought I could go to Options/Customize/Locations and change the path to read e:\Legacy\SS pics but that doesn't seem to work. Should I put the whole database and all the pics on the other computer with the same path as on mine, ie c:\Legacy\SS pics? How can I access my pics at another location? Thank you. Elsie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry, Evert ... but this thread is head "Genealogy Pirates" and seem to have drifted far from Legacy "uploading to Ancestry online family tree". Mary Young 2009/11/4 Evert van Dijken : > In the File menu you'll find "Uploding to Ancestry online family tree". > In menu Internet > Search Internet for current person > Ancestry is > the first in the list of Internet searches > Evert > > 2009/11/4 Mary Young : >> How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? >> Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
Just to answer your PS. The link to upload to Ancestry Online Family Trees was added in Legacy 3.0. It did not exist in Legacy 2.0. I cannot comment on why it is still there but Ancestry online family trees one of the biggest, if not the biggest, place for users to upload their family tree information. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: One final thought. In addition to the usual "Ancestry.com" site, they also have these other sites: Ancestry.com Corporate MyFamily.com Genealogy.com RootsWeb.com FamilyTreeMaker.com MyCanvas.com AncestryMagazine.com Brian in CA PS - I'm surprised that nobody has ever questioned why Legacy has a direct program link to a competitor's (FTM) web site of genealogical databases (ancestry.com). Seems a little strange to me but I guess that's admitting that Ancestry.com is the leading on-line database, something that Millennia has no interest in entering into. And for that, I'd say they were correct. I wonder if the very old versions of Legacy had this link before Ancestry bought out FTM. That might explain why its still there...never bothered to take it out. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
In the File menu you'll find "Uploding to Ancestry online family tree". In menu Internet > Search Internet for current person > Ancestry is the first in the list of Internet searches Evert 2009/11/4 Mary Young : > How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? > Mary Young > > > 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : >> That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not >> only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people >> connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. >> >> I know many people have good intentions posting their information to >> internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to >> correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I >> said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not >> so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the >> people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with >> sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it >> even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. >> >> Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my >> former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when >> nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no >> information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now >> I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet >> but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private >> collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other >> people get this information? >> >> By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also >> purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have >> been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and >> found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but >> Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only >> remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor >> being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter >> was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. >> >> So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. >> Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they >> bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >> Behalf Of Mary Horner >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates >> >> >> Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on >> line. ' >> >> The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and >> Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I >> do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates >> others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is >> going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there >> to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time >> I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what >> about all the poor people who don't know better? >> Mary > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy
I guess I should jump in here even though I wish or think this thread is just about over. Maybe I'm misreading some previous posts but I think there have been several misleading statements about content that is uploaded to Ancestry.com. Pardon me, Millennia Corp., but you do have their link on your program menu so this needs to be said. If you go to Ancestry.com or RootsWeb.com and click on COPYRIGHT at the very bottom of the page, you'll find the following statement: "Content which has been contributed to public areas of Ancestry sites listed above by users remains the property of the submitter or the original creator and we are a licensed distributor of such content." It then continues with: "Occasionally, a person may feel that content submitted by another user is their property, or is covered by the copyright of someone other than the submitter. Please remember that we are only the distributor of user supplied content and the submitter, not Ancestry, is the one who has violated copyright if such a violation has occurred. However, we will respond to substantiated claims of violation." On another page which explains their Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), this appears: "By submitting Submitted Content to RootsWeb.com, you grant Ancestry, the corporate host of the Service, a limited license to the Submitted Content to use, host, and distribute that Submitted Content and allow hosting and distribution on co-branded Services of that Submitted Content." I have not found anywhere where they state that they own the submitted data. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I think you're directing this to the person that asked about uploading to Ancestry.com under their terms and conditions. Mine was uploaded to Rootsweb's Freepages prior to the Ancestry.com takeover which came under different terms and conditions that did not state anything like this. I removed mine shortly after the Ancestry.com takeover because I did not agree with their terms at that time. I rarely used Ancestry.com's online trees and when I did my trees were usually private. The ones that weren't private I knew the risk and didn't care because I intended to offer the information freely since they were distant lines that were more beneficial to others than to me. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of CE Wood Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy When you upload to a website that warns that IT now owns your material, you have given away your ownership. It is then is up to Ancestry to pursue. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of William H. Boswell Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I think you misunderstood my stance on this. I'm not talking about vital record data and the like. I'm talking about specific information that no one else had access to. For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in my notes. Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other people's trees. If I don't own that information, then who does since it is not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there are no public copies. Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake. Most of this information was online for many years because at the time the intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more pirates than good intentions so I took it down. I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own data. Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can I know where that came from. Specific information word-for-word I can tell if it came from my data. The only thing I ask is that they show some respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it. Obviously they didn't. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo Courtesy of ..." But just one additional point for William: y
RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
One final thought. In addition to the usual "Ancestry.com" site, they also have these other sites: Ancestry.com Corporate MyFamily.com Genealogy.com RootsWeb.com FamilyTreeMaker.com MyCanvas.com AncestryMagazine.com Brian in CA PS - I'm surprised that nobody has ever questioned why Legacy has a direct program link to a competitor's (FTM) web site of genealogical databases (ancestry.com). Seems a little strange to me but I guess that's admitting that Ancestry.com is the leading on-line database, something that Millennia has no interest in entering into. And for that, I'd say they were correct. I wonder if the very old versions of Legacy had this link before Ancestry bought out FTM. That might explain why its still there...never bothered to take it out. -Original Message- From: Mary Horner [mailto:maryhor...@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ? I believe that I was the initial poster who started the contested thread that generated this post. According to the guidelines: I am a new user of Legacy (paid deluxe plus learning tapes) and I was seeking help with respect to Legacy add-ons, namely the hows and safety of linking to Ancestry which is a suggested resource found repeatedly under Legacy's Research Guidance. As a result the opinions presented have given me lots to think about which I appreciate. Thus I believe this user forum has served its purpose. Many thanks. Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
Mike is right - except (of course) when someone hijacks and idea and it becomes a totally different topic. GMAIL is free and keeps threads together quite nicely! Keith -- Find-A-Grave "County Keeper" for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Mike Fry wrote: > Julie Hite wrote: >> >> How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than >> having each post be a separate email? Julie >> > > Why? The actual volume of text would be about the same. You'd get one very > long message instead of many short ones. > > Your solution should be to instruct your email reader to filter all the > Legacy messages into a separate folder. Then they won't get in the way of > your other mail. > > Also, you'd be able to organise them by thread rather than having them in > the order that they arrived. This allows you to follow the threads that > interest you and ignore those that don't. > > -- > Best regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : > That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not > only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people > connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. > > I know many people have good intentions posting their information to > internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to > correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I > said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not > so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the > people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with > sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it > even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. > > Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my > former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when > nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no > information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now > I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet > but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private > collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other > people get this information? > > By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also > purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have > been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and > found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but > Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only > remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor > being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter > was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. > > So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. > Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they > bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Mary Horner > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates > > > Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on > line. ' > > The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and > Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I > do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates > others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is > going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there > to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time > I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what > about all the poor people who don't know better? > Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:20:21 -0500, "William H. Boswell" wrote: >Probably one reason why they >don't use it is because people who respond to a compilation of many messages >will be reposting all those messages again and again. Their listserv does not support digest mode. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
Thanks, Mike. Sherry - Original Message - From: "Mike Fry" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 7:05:48 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources Sherry wrote: > As I was following the discussion about using Ancestry to facilitate > attaching sources to your family file in Legacy, I had some > questions. > > I choose the individuals I want to upload to Ancestry and allow > Legacy to create the GEDCOM and upload. I do my research and attach > sources (easily as I understand it--I've not done this before.) Then, > I download the Ancestry file to Legacy. > > Questions. Are the sources turned into Master Sources or are they > only citations? Are the sources in Basic format or Source Writer > format? They import as Basic Sources. -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
I asked the same thing recently. I think it is referred to as the digest mode at least on the Rootsweb mailing lists. Probably one reason why they don't use it is because people who respond to a compilation of many messages will be reposting all those messages again and again. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Julie Hite Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ? How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than having each post be a separate email? Julie Julie M. Hite Brigham Young University Dept. of Educational Leadership & Foundations 306 MCKB Provo, UT 84602 Office Phone: 1-801-422-5039 julie_h...@byu.edu Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
Julie Hite wrote: How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than having each post be a separate email? Julie Why? The actual volume of text would be about the same. You'd get one very long message instead of many short ones. Your solution should be to instruct your email reader to filter all the Legacy messages into a separate folder. Then they won't get in the way of your other mail. Also, you'd be able to organise them by thread rather than having them in the order that they arrived. This allows you to follow the threads that interest you and ignore those that don't. -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy
Bill, In my case someone 'pirated' my data (which I had a surety level of 1) put it on RootsWeb (level 4) with me as Source. He then added stuff I never had, to me as the source. By the time I realized the situation, the culprit had died, and Rootsweb said they could not remove someome's data, except through the person or his representatives permission. I gave up, changed servers (not related to this), but people still find me?! 20 years later. He used the wrong information to get in the Mayflower group. I don't care anymore about messes he made in my name. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 5:27:20 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I think you misunderstood my stance on this. I'm not talking about vital record data and the like. I'm talking about specific information that no one else had access to. For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in my notes. Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other people's trees. If I don't own that information, then who does since it is not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there are no public copies. Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake. Most of this information was online for many years because at the time the intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more pirates than good intentions so I took it down. I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own data. Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can I know where that came from. Specific information word-for-word I can tell if it came from my data. The only thing I ask is that they show some respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it. Obviously they didn't. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo Courtesy of ..." But just one additional point for William: your "data" does not belong to you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data. Images, recordings, stories, look & feel, and other things can be copyrighted. But data like "born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920" cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy William H. Boswell wrote >I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no >longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com. I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line. I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it is that's their problem. If they want to deprive themselves of all the fun of doing their own research, that's their problem. On the other hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better. Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online data I might want to use. It's only polite. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe:
Re: [LegacyUG] What is the _APID Gedcom Tag?
That might be it, Evert. I was thinking: A[ncestry] P[erson]ID. I was comparing them to RINs. Robert At 2009-11-04 09:41 AM, you wrote: just a gues A (ncestry) P (ublication) ID Evert 2009/11/4 Mike Fry : > Like one or two others, I have been experimenting with downloading a GEDCOM > file from Ancestry to see how the sources are imported. > > Well, the first thing to note is that they import in Basic Format! > > Having said that, I notice that the import procedure seems to have one or > two problems with a particular, Ancestry-defined tag - _APID. Does anyone > have any idea what this tag is trying to convey? It's not al all obvious > from an examination of the downloaded GEDCOM text, what the tag is all > about. > > In the a g file generated from the import procedure, I see many messages of > the following form:- > >Main Record: 0 @S1029350835@ SOUR > * Unrecog. Line for a Source Record: 1 _APID 7572 > Placed in Note : _APID 7572 > > These, together with one or two more explicit errors that I can't correct > >Main Record: 0 @P4193015077@ INDI > Sub Section: 1 SEX M > * Unrecog. Line for an Individual Record: 2 SOUR @S1029764659@ > Placed in Note - James W P Wall: SEX: SOUR @S1029764659@ > PAGE Class: RG10; Piece: 1800; Folio: 159; Page: 28; GSU roll: 838798. > NOTE > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&h=14518996&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt > NOTE > DATA > TEXT Name: James W P WallBirth: abt 1865 in Cley, Norfolk, EnglandDeath: > _APID 7619::14518996 > > > -- > Best regards, > Mike Fry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What is the _APID Gedcom Tag?
or (A)ncestry (P)erson ID Bert - Original Message - From: "Evert van Dijken" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the _APID Gedcom Tag? just a gues A (ncestry) P (ublication) ID Evert 2009/11/4 Mike Fry : Like one or two others, I have been experimenting with downloading a GEDCOM file from Ancestry to see how the sources are imported. Well, the first thing to note is that they import in Basic Format! Having said that, I notice that the import procedure seems to have one or two problems with a particular, Ancestry-defined tag - _APID. Does anyone have any idea what this tag is trying to convey? It's not al all obvious from an examination of the downloaded GEDCOM text, what the tag is all about. In the a g file generated from the import procedure, I see many messages of the following form:- Main Record: 0 @S1029350835@ SOUR * Unrecog. Line for a Source Record: 1 _APID 7572 Placed in Note : _APID 7572 These, together with one or two more explicit errors that I can't correct Main Record: 0 @P4193015077@ INDI Sub Section: 1 SEX M * Unrecog. Line for an Individual Record: 2 SOUR @S1029764659@ Placed in Note - James W P Wall: SEX: SOUR @S1029764659@ PAGE Class: RG10; Piece: 1800; Folio: 159; Page: 28; GSU roll: 838798. NOTE http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&h=14518996&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt NOTE DATA TEXT Name: James W P WallBirth: abt 1865 in Cley, Norfolk, EnglandDeath: _APID 7619::14518996 -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers
Brian, All of my .trn language files are 10 July 2009. I obviously don't have the latest build(s). Was gone in July and the entire month of September so unsubscribed from the list. Will download the latest. Thanks, Kay - Original Message - From: "Brian/Support" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers Kay, The .trn file for French should use "calc.". That is what is in my version 109 file. When I switched from English (Canada) to French the FGS did use calc. in the report. Switching back to English changed the wording to Cal which used by all the English versions. Check the dates for the .trn files in your Legacy program folder. My date modified for the .trn files are 21 Aug 2009 for the Swedish and Spanish files and 13 Aug 2009 for all the other.trn files. Kay Fordham wrote: Brian, Thanks, using the reset button appears to work. However, I now see another problem. After resetting to English, I changed the language on a FGS to French. The screen shows "ber 10 August 1937". Ber is an abbreviation for the German word for calculated. - berechnet. The French word for calculated is calculé, so it should say cal, right? This is as far as I went with the experiement. Thanks, Kay - Original Message - From: "Brian/Support" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers Kay, The .trn files which are used for translating chart reports were fixed in August so they are included in the newest version. What you may be seeing however is a problem with the report.usr files. If you have the ber problem after changing languages use the reset button on the report screen to reset the .usr file for that report. I left the problem open so the programmers will address the problem of the .usr files not updating when you change languages. The German term should be ber however. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Kay Fordham wrote: Please fix the glitch reported below earlier in the year in the new Legacy update. This is a real problem for me as it is sometimes necessary to change language to French or German for oversees relatives. When I change back to English then I forever see Ber instead of Cal in all printed reports. As Brian stated ,"Once you change language however the error in the .trn file changes Legacy's term for Calculated from Cal to Ber in all the future chart style reports you create." Thank you, Kay Fordham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
I created a gmail account just for this group. Gmail also groups the emails by topic. In this way I can drop by anytime to check it out and it does not get in the way of my regular email. G.C. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Julie Hite wrote: > How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than having > each post be a separate email? > Julie > > Julie M. Hite > Brigham Young University > Dept. of Educational Leadership & Foundations > 306 MCKB > Provo, UT 84602 > Office Phone: 1-801-422-5039 > julie_h...@byu.edu > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of ... > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:22 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ? > > Bravo Mary! If they want us new folks, they better treat us nice! > > Jerry :-) > > Mary Horner wrote: >> I believe that I was the initial poster who started the contested thread >> that generated this post. According to the guidelines: I am a new user of >> Legacy (paid deluxe plus learning tapes) and I was seeking help with respect >> to Legacy add-ons, namely the hows and safety of linking to Ancestry which >> is a suggested resource found repeatedly under Legacy's Research Guidance. >> As a result the opinions presented have given me lots to think about which I >> appreciate. Thus I believe this user forum has served its purpose. Many >> thanks. >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What is the _APID Gedcom Tag?
just a gues A (ncestry) P (ublication) ID Evert 2009/11/4 Mike Fry : > Like one or two others, I have been experimenting with downloading a GEDCOM > file from Ancestry to see how the sources are imported. > > Well, the first thing to note is that they import in Basic Format! > > Having said that, I notice that the import procedure seems to have one or > two problems with a particular, Ancestry-defined tag - _APID. Does anyone > have any idea what this tag is trying to convey? It's not al all obvious > from an examination of the downloaded GEDCOM text, what the tag is all > about. > > In the a g file generated from the import procedure, I see many messages of > the following form:- > > Main Record: 0 @S1029350835@ SOUR > * Unrecog. Line for a Source Record: 1 _APID 7572 > Placed in Note : _APID 7572 > > These, together with one or two more explicit errors that I can't correct > > Main Record: 0 @P4193015077@ INDI > Sub Section: 1 SEX M > * Unrecog. Line for an Individual Record: 2 SOUR @S1029764659@ > Placed in Note - James W P Wall: SEX: SOUR @S1029764659@ > PAGE Class: RG10; Piece: 1800; Folio: 159; Page: 28; GSU roll: 838798. > NOTE > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&h=14518996&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt > NOTE > DATA > TEXT Name: James W P WallBirth: abt 1865 in Cley, Norfolk, EnglandDeath: > _APID 7619::14518996 > > > -- > Best regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] What is the _APID Gedcom Tag?
Like one or two others, I have been experimenting with downloading a GEDCOM file from Ancestry to see how the sources are imported. Well, the first thing to note is that they import in Basic Format! Having said that, I notice that the import procedure seems to have one or two problems with a particular, Ancestry-defined tag - _APID. Does anyone have any idea what this tag is trying to convey? It's not al all obvious from an examination of the downloaded GEDCOM text, what the tag is all about. In the LOG file generated from the import procedure, I see many messages of the following form:- Main Record: 0 @S1029350835@ SOUR * Unrecog. Line for a Source Record: 1 _APID 7572 Placed in Note : _APID 7572 These, together with one or two more explicit errors that I can't correct Main Record: 0 @P4193015077@ INDI Sub Section: 1 SEX M * Unrecog. Line for an Individual Record: 2 SOUR @S1029764659@ Placed in Note - James W P Wall: SEX: SOUR @S1029764659@ PAGE Class: RG10; Piece: 1800; Folio: 159; Page: 28; GSU roll: 838798. NOTE http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&h=14518996&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt NOTE DATA TEXT Name: James W P WallBirth: abt 1865 in Cley, Norfolk, EnglandDeath: _APID 7619::14518996 -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
Sherry wrote: As I was following the discussion about using Ancestry to facilitate attaching sources to your family file in Legacy, I had some questions. I choose the individuals I want to upload to Ancestry and allow Legacy to create the GEDCOM and upload. I do my research and attach sources (easily as I understand it--I've not done this before.) Then, I download the Ancestry file to Legacy. Questions. Are the sources turned into Master Sources or are they only citations? Are the sources in Basic format or Source Writer format? They import as Basic Sources. -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:22:28 -0700, Julie Hite wrote: >How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than having >each post be a separate email? You cannot do this with this mailing list. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
How can I set this forum to a "once a day" list of posts rather than having each post be a separate email? Julie Julie M. Hite Brigham Young University Dept. of Educational Leadership & Foundations 306 MCKB Provo, UT 84602 Office Phone: 1-801-422-5039 julie_h...@byu.edu -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ... Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ? Bravo Mary! If they want us new folks, they better treat us nice! Jerry :-) Mary Horner wrote: > I believe that I was the initial poster who started the contested thread > that generated this post. According to the guidelines: I am a new user of > Legacy (paid deluxe plus learning tapes) and I was seeking help with respect > to Legacy add-ons, namely the hows and safety of linking to Ancestry which > is a suggested resource found repeatedly under Legacy's Research Guidance. > As a result the opinions presented have given me lots to think about which I > appreciate. Thus I believe this user forum has served its purpose. Many > thanks. > > Mary > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers
Kay, The .trn file for French should use "calc.". That is what is in my version 109 file. When I switched from English (Canada) to French the FGS did use calc. in the report. Switching back to English changed the wording to Cal which used by all the English versions. Check the dates for the .trn files in your Legacy program folder. My date modified for the .trn files are 21 Aug 2009 for the Swedish and Spanish files and 13 Aug 2009 for all the other.trn files. Kay Fordham wrote: Brian, Thanks, using the reset button appears to work. However, I now see another problem. After resetting to English, I changed the language on a FGS to French. The screen shows "ber 10 August 1937". Ber is an abbreviation for the German word for calculated. - berechnet. The French word for calculated is calculé, so it should say cal, right? This is as far as I went with the experiement. Thanks, Kay - Original Message - From: "Brian/Support" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers Kay, The .trn files which are used for translating chart reports were fixed in August so they are included in the newest version. What you may be seeing however is a problem with the report.usr files. If you have the ber problem after changing languages use the reset button on the report screen to reset the .usr file for that report. I left the problem open so the programmers will address the problem of the .usr files not updating when you change languages. The German term should be ber however. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Kay Fordham wrote: Please fix the glitch reported below earlier in the year in the new Legacy update. This is a real problem for me as it is sometimes necessary to change language to French or German for oversees relatives. When I change back to English then I forever see Ber instead of Cal in all printed reports. As Brian stated ,"Once you change language however the error in the .trn file changes Legacy's term for Calculated from Cal to Ber in all the future chart style reports you create." Thank you, Kay Fordham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ?
Mary: I helped to keep it going so you're not the only one. It got off topic very quickly and I apologize for that. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PURPOSE OF USER-FORUMS ? I believe that I was the initial poster who started the contested thread that generated this post. According to the guidelines: I am a new user of Legacy (paid deluxe plus learning tapes) and I was seeking help with respect to Legacy add-ons, namely the hows and safety of linking to Ancestry which is a suggested resource found repeatedly under Legacy's Research Guidance. As a result the opinions presented have given me lots to think about which I appreciate. Thus I believe this user forum has served its purpose. Many thanks. Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sources
As I was following the discussion about using Ancestry to facilitate attaching sources to your family file in Legacy, I had some questions. I choose the individuals I want to upload to Ancestry and allow Legacy to create the GEDCOM and upload. I do my research and attach sources (easily as I understand it--I've not done this before.) Then, I download the Ancestry file to Legacy. Questions. Are the sources turned into Master Sources or are they only citations? Are the sources in Basic format or Source Writer format? Thanks, Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Former generations users
Sorry I'm a bit late coming into this one. I am an old Generations user. I picked Legacy because of the similarities. I had some issues converting data. I forget what they were but there is a link on our webpage www.foxcrofts.com in the family tree area i think on what I did and why. I would agree with everyone else's comemnts as well. Terry From: jusen...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:32:19 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Former generations users To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I would like to exchange info with ppl who have switched from Generations software to Legacy. I am having a hard time "learning" and wonder if someone there in my boat (or who has been in my boat) has any tips! Thanks, Judy _ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Charting
Generations - when it was around - did an all blood relative chart called an enhanced hourglass. Family Historian also does one. Reunion does one for the Mac I love Legacy and the charting it now has. However, it does need an all blood relative chart. It can be a massive chart, but it is the only one used at family reunions. Fortunately I have access to a colour roll printer! So that's my suggestion - an all blood relatives chart. Terry > From: bcola...@bigpond.net.au > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:57:41 +1100 > > Hi all, > > I'm a dedicated Legacy user and to the best of my knowledge, and I've tried > a few different packages, Family Tree Maker by Ancestry.com is the only > software that does an All-in-One chart (I could be wrong). I have used it > many times and it certainly does a reasonable job. Printing it is an issue > (used free version 6 last year) as it single creates a single page doc > regardless of size and regardless of printer you have. I resorted to > converting the chart to PDF with Adobe and then using a drum plotter. For > all other charting I use Legacy Tree Draw. > > Hope this helps. > > Many Thanks > Branko and Chris > > Email us at: bcola...@bigpond.net.au > Visit our website at: http://www.bc-cola.com > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of jeffma...@orthohelp.com > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:05 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Charting > > > Me too. > > Thank you. > > Jeff Malka > > Colin Liddell wrote: > > John, > > I too would be interested to know which software you use to create > > these charts, please contact me off list if it is not Legacy. > > > > Colin. > > - Original Message - > > From: CE Wood > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:06 AM > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > Does the software also calculate generations? Legacy has a > > well-documented problem doing that reliably. > > > > In any case, could you send me, off-list perhaps, the name of the > > software you use for these marvelous charts? > > > > > > CE > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On > > Behalf Of John Magyari > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:33 AM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Charting > > > > The Chart you are describing is sometimes referred to as a "Blood > > relationship chart", which is great to show families, children and to > > have at family reunions. I've created several of these for reunions > > and family members. And also find that most of my family members seem > > to spend more time looking at this type a chart to see who they are > > related to vs just their own ancestry tree. > > > > Sometimes people also want to print an "All-In-One Chart" which would > > include everybody you've recorded in your database. With large > > databases this is sometimes unpractical because it's just to big. > > What I do with All-In-One Charts is create subset databases: > > For example I'll tag a branch of a tree and then tag people I'm not > > sure if connected but possibly, create a gedcom. Then create an > > All-In-One Chart. This has been helpful when trying to get others to > > view the section I'm working and I find it very helpful for myself. > > > > Of the charts I use I find I use the above "All-In-One" and via a > > "All-In-One" chart create a "Blood Relationship Charts" for about 65% > > of all charts I create. > > > > Of the 8 or 9 different packages I've tried in the past only one > > company seems to do a very good job in this area. Currently we do not > > have these Chart Types in Legacy. > > > > Another type of Chart I've been requested to do is an Hour Glass Chart > > based on all Children as the center node Ex. 2 Sisters and 1 Brother > > all married Create an Hour glass Chart that includes all Ancestors of > > above 3 Children and their spouses and then the direct descendants of > > the 3 children. > > > > A few people have asked for their Charts to be created with their a > > Step Parent vs their biological parent who skipped out of their lives > > (that they don't even care about the skipped out biological parent). > > An All-In-One Chart here is great because you can just delete the > > unwanted Biological Parent Tree limb (person and their ancestors) from > > the Chart and your left with the functional Family. The Family Chart > > > > Most programs on the market limit their charts to biological ancestors > > and descendants and their spouses. Based on human nature I would > > imagine that sometimes a few listed in genealogical databases as > > biological parents are in fact only the married parents. > > > > Cha