[LegacyUG] travel vs emigration

[SKL 1750]

Hello listers,

I have several people who have left Belgium for the US in the early 1900s. For 
those that I know to have stayed/died in the US, I have used event Emigration 
(mostly for their first travel, if other info is missing). For those who have 
come back/died in Belgium, I've used event Travel. Howeevr, I realised that I 
haven't used this consistently, and maybe not even correctly. 

When is a person considered emigrated? When they first entered the country, or 
when they requested nationality, or when they received it? We can have people 
travelling a few times and then emigrated. We could also have people who have 
traveled after they emigrated... 

I'd be interested to know how other people record those situation? I am just 
starting now to look across the pond and I definitely don't want to have to go 
back and redo ever single event...

thanks in advance for your advise/experience,
nina


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with event wording

[SKL 1750]

I also have a "relocation" event, and have edited the wording to read 
dfferently depending on which fields are filled in. For example, you can do:
[Name] relocated [Desc] [toPlace][Date][Sources][Notes]
Desc: from India
Date: 1877
Place: Scotland
Notes: He was 11 years old.

You can always use the overwrite option in case the wording is not flowing...

 
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Relocation Event.  Relocated?    John relocated from India to Scotland...

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:41:55 -0500
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with event wording



Hello,



I'd like to create an event for when people move from one place to another, not 
just list their residence at a given date.  As I have it now, I am using the 
word 'moved' as an event name.  The word moved just doesn't see quite right--it 
doesn't flow very well.  I guess I could use removed or removal, but I had 
never heard that word until I started doing genealogy.  So far, the event reads 
as follows:




Moved: John moved from India to Scotland when he was 11 years old in 1877 or 
1878.



Any ideas?



Thanks,

Melanie Tucker






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Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

[SKL 1750]

I'm sorry, but we are all llisted under D, not under B. "Bruyne, de" looks just 
wrong, and so does a listing:
Bruyne
Debruyne
Buysse

All I meant was that how people spell them and how people _regard_ their 
surnames is personal. And I firmly believe that your correct name and spelling 
is what you believe it is. 

Personally, I also find Legacy fine with the current sorting, and rather have 
the change introduced as an option that can be turned on and off.

greetings,
n

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Its not "all Personal"
 
Look in the Dutch phonebook. Sorting is without "de" , "van de", "van" aso. 
Thats just the reason why the translation teams strongly request this type of 
sorting. Look for instance at Brothers Keeper which has this feature for years. 
 
Bert
 
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Hello all,
 
I think it's all personal. You have to accept that no matter how you sort it, 
you'll never have them all together, because some people divide the suffix and 
others don't. My mother-in-law is Vande Walle, her brother's family are all Van 
De Walles, while their father was Vandewalle. My husband and I chose to write 
our name Debruyne, while my sister-in-law writes 'De Bruyne'. In that respect, 
it's better to use all parts of the surname because they will be listed in 
closer proximity on your list than if the 'prefixes' were divided. Same goes 
with the capitalisation of the particle -- it has become optional.
 
Keep in mind that you'll not capture the ones that have dropped the 'van' 
altogether: for example, the Van Maeles may have become simply the Maeles (or 
the other way round).
 
Regards,
nina



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How do Europeans typically sort...with or without the de's, von's, etc?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

[SKL 1750]

Hello all,
 
I think it's all personal. You have to accept that no matter how you sort it, 
you'll never have them all together, because some people divide the suffix and 
others don't. My mother-in-law is Vande Walle, her brother's family are all Van 
De Walles, while their father was Vandewalle. My husband and I chose to write 
our name Debruyne, while my sister-in-law writes 'De Bruyne'. In that respect, 
it's better to use all parts of the surname because they will be listed in 
closer proximity on your list than if the 'prefixes' were divided. Same goes 
with the capitalisation of the particle -- it has become optional.
 
Keep in mind that you'll not capture the ones that have dropped the 'van' 
altogether: for example, the Van Maeles may have become simply the Maeles (or 
the other way round).
 
Regards,
nina



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How do Europeans typically sort...with or without the de's, von's, etc?



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[LegacyUG] children through IVF

[SKL 1750]

Hi LUGers,

I would like your advise on handling the following situation:

A cousin in our family has a civil union with another woman. Our cousin gave 
birth last year through IVF.  This year, her partner also gave birth though IVF 
(with the same donor). 

Currently, I have both ladies in a 'marriage', which means that one of them is 
noted as a man. (obviously incorrect). I have changed the caption to read 
"partner" instead of husband/wife, but the sex cannot be changed (or at least I 
can't). 

The first baby has our cousin for a mother, and status 'adopted by' the other 
lady. The second baby is the other way round. The Family group record shows the 
second lady as a 'father'.

I am not sure if I should introduce the donor (biological father to both 
children) in the family tree , since we don't know his name, and we can't prove 
he's the actual father of both children (due to confidentiality reasons). Also, 
I'm not sure if this matters in the long run, since this man has no role in the 
'family history"... hence the question should we do 'genealoogy' in the strict 
genetic sense or a broader 'family history'.

Any thoughts and suggestions are most welcome,

thanks in advance,
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Re: [LegacyUG] signatures & names

[SKL 1750]

Thanks, Ron. My thinking goes along the same lines. 

The only thing on nr 3 - which language version of the name to use, I tend to 
go with Dutch, simply because Latin, while official at the time of birth, was 
not really the 'common' language. (Isn't that why Martin Luther nailed the 
church door??) It's the same with the French - just because the official 
language has changed, because the country has been run over, the people's 
language and names don't change.

Sometimes, I do have indication of the "common name" - a woman was named first 
Isabella, then Isabeau or Isabelle, and at the end, a marriage of one of her 
children mentioned "Bello"... which i think is what she was really called in 
daily life.

I'm not sure if there is something like this in the UK - perhaps Welsh names? 
Were they ever tried to be anglicised in official records? 

n

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Some interesting questions here Nina - my comments are bewlow;

Ron Ferguson


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> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:01:15 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LegacyUG] signatures & names
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have a few questions and would love to hear your suggestions:
> 1. When researching various records - marriage certificates, court papers, 
> etc. - I would like to capture the fact that the person has signed the 
> document (as an indicator for literacy). Does anyone of you capture this 
> information and how do you think it's best done.
> I guess I should create an event but I'm not sure how to name it or how word 
> it: "[HeShe] signed the document"... or "the document is signed by [Name]".

I normally don't record whether literate or otherwise. If I did I would 
probably just put some thing in the notes and use the document which 
illustrated this as a source. eg Signed own Wedding Certificate: Source Wedding 
Certificate (using the way I normally source them)

It is an idea to use an Event. In which case I would probably have a general 
one called, say,  "Literacy"  and enter "Literate" or "Illiterate" in the 
description box. Again using the document from which the conclusion was drawn 
as a source.

> 2. Also how is best to capture veriations of the name - for example, the 
> person is recorded on the document as THIJS, but he has signed THYS 
> (presuming he's literate). So far, I'm just added both as AKAs with the 
> details of where the version appears and by whom. In that case, who do you 
> think know better - the official (who often seem to make a complete hash of 
> even simple name) or the person? I can relate to the last one, because my 
> first name is spelled HRISTINA, without C in front, and very often people 
> just don't listen to me ;)

In this case I always take the spelling used by the subject as being correct 
and add the variations in the AKAs
> 3. What do you consider the official name esp. in 17th and 18th century? I'm 
> researching Belgium and of course in a short period of 30 years, I can have 
> the same person with a Latin name (Birth certificate; say "Petrus" or 
> "Joannes"), then French (for the Marriage, "Pierre" or "Jean") and then Dutch 
> (for the death certificate, "Pieter" or "Jan")... All those are technically 
> official because they were recorded by the authorities.

As you say, all are official and if there is no indication as to what the 
person called him/herself then there is nothing to go on. In the case you 
illustrate I would tend to use the one relevant to the place of birth with the 
others as AKAs.


> Any thoughts?
> thanks!
> nina
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[LegacyUG] signatures & names

[SKL 1750]

Hello everyone,

I have a few questions and would love to hear your suggestions:

1. When researching various records - marriage certificates, court papers, etc. 
- I would like to capture the fact that the person has signed the document (as 
an indicator for literacy). Does anyone of you capture this information and how 
do you think it's best done. 

I guess I should create an event but I'm not sure how to name it or how word 
it: "[HeShe] signed the document"... or "the document is signed by [Name]".

2. Also how is best to capture veriations of the name - for example, the person 
is recorded on the document as THIJS, but he has signed THYS (presuming he's 
literate). So far, I'm just added both as AKAs with the details of where the 
version appears and by whom. In that case, who do you think know better - the 
official (who often seem to make a complete hash of even simple name) or the 
person? I can relate to the last one, because my first name is spelled 
HRISTINA, without C in front, and very often people just don't listen to me 
;)

3. What do you consider the official name esp. in 17th and 18th century? I'm 
researching Belgium and of course in a short period of 30 years, I can have the 
same person with a Latin name (Birth certificate; say "Petrus" or "Joannes"), 
then French (for the Marriage, "Pierre" or "Jean") and then Dutch (for the 
death certificate, "Pieter" or "Jan")... All those are technically official 
because they were recorded by the authorities. 

Any thoughts?
thanks!
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Re: [LegacyUG] switch birth & alt. birth

[SKL 1750]

Thanks, that's really neat! ;-)
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Nina,
 
See an answer to your question in today's Legacy News. You can access it via the Legacy Home tab in Legacy 6, or just follow this link: http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/09/legacy_tip_how_.html
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Hi,
 
I have birth info in both birth event and alt. birth event for an individual. There is enough info to make the alt. birth data more likely, but I would still like to keep the two.  Is there a way to switch the information in the two event without having to retype everything manually and add the sources one by one? 
 
Thanks,
nina
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[LegacyUG] switch birth & alt. birth

[SKL 1750]

Hi,
 
I have birth info in both birth event and alt. birth event for an individual. There is enough info to make the alt. birth data more likely, but I would still like to keep the two.  Is there a way to switch the information in the two event without having to retype everything manually and add the sources one by one? 
 
Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] how to add dutch registry to source

[SKL 1750]

Hi Bernard,
 
this is what I'd do:
MASTER SOURCE - Groningen BS Huwelijken
Source: Civil register - MarriageArchive location: Groninger ArchievenGeneral Municipality: MuntendamType of record: Huwelijksakte (you already have a category VITAL so you may not need to add this one unless you want to track the source by type of record... which you can do instead by naming convention)
SOURCE Detail
- akte XX van DD-MM-YY
- File: enter file name
 
I save the entire marriage certificate information on a file. In your case I'd name the file "M***a Doddema-Wolders" where the M*** is the Marriage RIN from Legacy. I know those could be changed if you renumber, so this is why the name of the groom and bride are included, in case I screw the numbering up. If you ahve more than one Legacy file, then I also add an indicator of which Legacy file in the beginning: "X-M***a Bruidegom-Bruid". The 'a" after the number indicates it's the first file for the marriage...just in case you  find another record which would be 'X-M***b Bruidegom-Bruid".
 
I keep each marriage in separate file. You don't have to do that, as long as you know where the info is. For some families I have three files for the three vital records: birth/christning; marriage; death: ie DEBRUYNE BS Huwelijken, DEBRUYNE BS Geboorten, DEBRYUNE BS Overlijdings. For other (peripheral families) I have ASSORTED BS.xls and have all in one on different excel tabs.
 
Then each piece of the information is entered in the appropriate place in Legacy.
The name of the bride/groom, the birth date and place; occupation & residence are entered as appropriate in the individual screen. All of those are referenced to the same source (this is where the source clipboard is useful. The detail on all will read "akte 8 van 5-7-1860". The source already tells me this is HUWELIJKSAKTE BS so I don't need to re-enter this. Then I also copy the file name in the detail source. I also use the same source for the relation to mother and father. It's important you reference the name as well because of the many different spellings you'll encounter (believe me - there are A LOT).
 
For the parents, I enter the names, estimated birth year (from the age of time of the marriage), residence, occupation, etc. in THEIR individual records. Then I use the same source but with the prefix "huw. van zoon/dochter NAME," before the "akte nummer". So at a glance I know it's not the parent's marriage but someone elses.
For the occupations - I use the OCCUPATION event (not sure if standard or I created it) and enter for example 'arbeider' in the description field and the date of the marriage record (ie 1860). I do not enter the place unless I know they were active there. For example, just because the son married in Muntendam doesn't mean that the father worked there. it doesn't even mean that the son worked there - as I believe the convention was to marry where the bride lived. Since I use the English version of Legacy, but would like the notes to be in Dutch, I overwrite the event description with something like "Hij was arbeider in 1860".
 
For the parents you can also keep track of how you estimated the birth date (say he was 56 in 1860, so he must be born in 1804) in the BIRTH NOTES field "Hij was 56 toen zijn zoon Jan trouwde in 1860". I've found out that some records are very liberal when it comes to estimating the births of the people. Plus Legacy calculates actual age (ie you ain't 56 until your birthday, while BS record may say you are 56 as soon as you have reached 55). So BIRTH NOTES help when you get different estimates from marriage certificates of diff kids.
 
Hope this helps. If you'd like to discuss let me know. I have plenty of experience with the BS records (sob-sob).
 
Good luck,
n
 
 
- Original Message From: Bernard_Kara Doddema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.comSent: Tuesday, 19 September, 2006 3:12:34 PMSubject: [LegacyUG] how to add dutch registry to sourceI'm having problems figuring out how to add the following source so I've just been adding it into the notes.  Since I have so many entries now using these sources, I figured it would be easier to just learn how to do it right.  Any ideas would be appreciated.  Here goes:Source: Civil register - MarriageArchive location: Groninger ArchievenGeneral Municipality: MuntendamType of record: HuwelijksakteRecord number: 8Registration date: 05-07-1860Groom: Jan DoddemaPlace of birth: ZuidbroekBride: Maria WoltersPlace of birth: VeendamFather groom: Albert Jans DoddemaMother groom: Elsien
 Luijes WitwersFather bride: Hindrik Willems WoltersMother bride: Marchien Deddes DeddesAdditional information - beroep bruidegom: arbeider; beroep bruid: naaister; beroep moeder bruidegom: werkvrouw; bruidegom 26 jaar; bruid 25 jaarThank you.Bernard Doddema, Jr.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Why Do I Show As My Own Half Sister?

[SKL 1750]

I have exactly the same problem with my grandmother's family... where the adopted children show twice - as half-siblings to themselves. So instead of three kids, I have 5. grgrgr
nina
- Original Message From: Laurel Feal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Monday, 11 September, 2006 7:48:53 AMSubject: [LegacyUG] Why Do I Show As My Own Half Sister?
The situation is that a man had 3 children with his 1st wife before she passed away.  A woman had 1 child with her 1st husband before he passed away.   The man and woman then met and married and had a child together. The man then adopted the woman's child from her 1st marriage (which is me).  I've entered dad's 1st marriage with 1st wife and 3 children, and mom and her 1st marriage with 1 child (me), and then their marriage and the child they had together.  All relationships look fine at this point.  But when I link myself to my mom's 2nd marriage with my adoptive father (so I am linked to 2 sets of parents: my mother and birth father, and my mother and my adoptive father), I am shown as a daughter of the 2nd marriage plus as a half sibling from my mother's marriage with my birth father.  (so I am shown as a full daughter and a half sibling to
 myself).  Plus the relationships are wrong with the other children from both marriages. I followed instructions I found on the Legacy Website regarding this situation, but I have ended up linking and unlinking myself so many times trying to get it right, I am at a lost at what to try next.Basically, I need help on how to add myself as a natural daughter of my mother and birth father (which I think I have done correctly), and again as an adopted daughter of my mother's marriage to my adoptive father.  I hope I have explained this correctly, and thanks in advance for any help.Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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Re: [LegacyUG]

[SKL 1750]

Hi Diane,
You could always print just the last page(s) of the report with the source citations. I also use the Research for questionable items/sources.
nina
- Original Message From: Diane Murach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Wednesday, 6 September, 2006 12:53:17 AMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG]
Yes! I also have assigned sources, but sometimes I just want a simple list which I can copy for others without sending a 5 page family group sheet.Diane- Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:35 PMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG]> All mine are attached/cited as Sources  so I just look at the list of > Assigned Sources except for those where are question/uncertainty arises > and these are in Reasearch Notes.>> Ron Ferguson _>> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/> *New Blogs: Transparency with The GIMP, Downloadable UK History Timeline *>
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/> __>>>From: "Diane Murach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>>To: >>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:10:04 -0700Does anyone use the Research Notes as a place to list the documents one >>has on file regarding an individual?I'm trying to come up with a system to easily check to see what I have >>copies of.Any ideas out there!Diane>> _> Windows LiveT
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Re: [LegacyUG] preferred name

[SKL 1750]

Hi,
 
I have a similar problem with my Belgian ancestors because of the different ways of spelling a name (Latin, French, Dutch), which may not have a relation to the way people were actually called: Carel Louis, Charles Louis, Karel Lodewijk, Karl, etc. So I keep the name which is actually used, say Karel, as the main, and the rest goes in AKA. I've added some of the AKA in the main persons screen (isntead of field 'buried'), as guidance when doing further research, because (of course!) the three vital records use three different spellings.
 
nina
- Original Message From: Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Sunday, 3 September, 2006 5:26:40 AMSubject: [LegacyUG] preferred nameIs there a way to identify a preferred name?  My German ancestors seem to have about 3 given names.  Sometimes folks changed which "first" name they used, but many seemed to be identified by one of their given names.  For example:Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Mailand    (he went by Wilhelm)Heinrich Friedrich Diedrich Mailand (he went by Friedrich)Sophie Wilhelmina Dorette Mailand    (she went by Sophie)These are not misspellings, diminutives, or nicknames to keep an eye on, but part of their given names.  Is there a manner in which, when known, I can clearly identify these
 folks when I see their names on the family, pedigree, and other views without having to read the notes for each one?  This is imperative to identify because, in this particular family of 10 children, 4 out of 5 daughters have a given name of "Sophie", while only 3 out of 5 boys have the given name "Heinrich".  Knowing which child used which given name can help keep them untangled.Thank you,Dawn
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Re: [LegacyUG] Morris Town, NJ, USA

[SKL 1750]

Thanks, Bob! I believe it's the second. I didn't realise it's one word, sorry!
cheers,
n
- Original Message From: Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Friday, 1 September, 2006 12:14:04 PMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Morris Town, NJ, USA
Nina,There are two entries in the GEO database:1. Morristown, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA2. Morristown, Morris, New Jersey, USAThere are _no_ entries for "Morris Town" at all in New Jersey. Hope this helps.BobSKL 1750 wrote:> Hi everyone,> I am looking for the full Legacy location for a town called Morris > Town in New Jersey, USA. I have one entry in the database for this > town, and prefer not to download the entire US location file just for > one entry (for space, time and similar reason).>  > Could any one of you please kindly help?>  > Thank you!> nina> PS I'm researching Belgium, so I can help anyone please let me know.>> Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp>> To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/>> For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp>> To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp>Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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[LegacyUG] Morris Town, NJ, USA

[SKL 1750]

Hi everyone,
I am looking for the full Legacy location for a town called Morris Town in New Jersey, USA. I have one entry in the database for this town, and prefer not to download the entire US location file just for one entry (for space, time and similar reason).
 
Could any one of you please kindly help?
 
Thank you!
nina
PS I'm researching Belgium, so I can help anyone please let me know.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event

[SKL 1750]

Thanks for this clarification. So it seems we should use the notes on this event (whichever we chose depending on religion?) to capture who the godparents are, and then use the Godfather/Godmother event to capture when an adult becomes a Godparent. Do I understand this correct?
 
However, if we do this, what happens when the info is exported to GEDCOM?  Wouldn't the roles be switched on the export...
 
- Original Message From: Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.comSent: Wednesday, 16 August, 2006 4:27:53 PMSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event
Christening usually refers to infant baptism or naming ceremony.  Baptismusually refers to an adult baptism or that of an older child.Christening dates can frequently be used as a substitute for birth datesbecause the ritual is performed close to birth. In some church recordsyou'll only find a christening date and not a birth date.Baptism dates can't be substituted for birth dates because that could bedone many years later.Godparents are completely different. A godparent is an adult, usually arelative, chosen by the parents of the child, and who is present at thechristening and who take an interest in the spiritual life of the child andwho will take over in the event something happens to the parents.Definitions may vary somewhat depending on the religious tradition involved!Others may have slightly different interpretations of these terms.Thanks for using Legacy.SherryCustomer
 SupportMillennia Corporation[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.comWe are changing the world of genealogy!When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.Thanks.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SKL 1750Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:04 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother eventI'm afraid "Baptism" & "Christening" are only in Christian context... but'godparents' is more universal and applies to other religions ornon-religious families as well... I don't know the exact difference between 'Baptism' and 'Christening' andthey don't quite play in my family, I needed something else to capture
 theinfo. Instead of creating separate events, I use the Godfather/Godmotherfields to capture essentially the same role.Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event

[SKL 1750]

Thanks for the tip. I obviously didn't think that far (haven't gotten as far as exporting anything yet). But how can I then distinguish between 'Had a Godfather' and "Became a godfather"...
 
As in "The Godfather of Baby was John" and "John became the godfather of Baby"... when you export those two, wouldn't there be a mix up since both use the Godfather field?n
- Original Message From: C.G. Ouimet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 11:17:36 PMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event
I am no GEDCOM expert but ...I believe Godfather and Godmother are standard GEDCOM tags but Godchild isn't. Correct?Technically Godfather/Godmother accomplish the same thing as Godchild: "His Godfather was so and so" vs "He was a Godchild of so and so". Both approaches work equally well within Legacy whether the godparents are in the file or not. However, the use of non standard Legacy tags will cause issues when the file is exported for use in another genealogy program.My 6.5 cents ...At 2006/08/14 09:23, you wrote:>Hi,>>I have created an event called "Godchild" and added different >wording for the cases where diff informatio is available: for >example, "He/She became the godchild of [Desc] [onDate] at [Place]". >This works also when the godparents are not in the family tree (ie >friends of the family, i'm not interested
 in).>>nina>>- Original Message >From: Richard Van Wasshnova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>Sent: Saturday, 12 August, 2006 5:48:13 PM>Subject: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event>>In PAF I mostly kept an Individual's Godfather / Godmother under baptism>notes and occasionally showed a person acting as Godfather / Godmother in>misc notes.>>Since switching to Legacy I use Godfather / Godmother event for both the>baptizee and (acted as) Godfather / Godmother (for). Is this OK? How do>others use this? I presently differentiate the 2 ways in "Description" with>"was: John or Jane Doe" for the baptizee and "for: Joe Doe" (Joe Doe is>baptizee).What would loo k right in reports?>>It almost seems to me that my baptism was an event in my life but MY>Godparents participated in that
 event. If I act as Godfather for someone it>is an event in my life.>>Thanks for any ideas.>=>Richard Van Wasshnova>Seal Beach, CALegacy User Group guidelines can be found at: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp>>To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/>>For online technical support, please visit >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp>>To unsubscribe please visit: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp>>Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp>>To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/>>For online technical support, please visit >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp>>To unsubscribe please visit: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event

[SKL 1750]

I'm afraid "Baptism" & "Christening" are only in Christian context... but 'godparents' is more universal and applies to other religions or non-religious families as well... 
 
I don't know the exact difference between 'Baptism' and 'Christening' and they don't quite play in my family, I needed something else to capture the info. Instead of creating separate events, I use the Godfather/Godmother fields to capture essentially the same role.
- Original Message From: Cary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 11:39:51 PMSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event
The event for the child is "Baptism" or "Christening".Cary-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C.G.OuimetSent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:18 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother eventI am no GEDCOM expert but ...I believe Godfather and Godmother are standard GEDCOM tags butGodchild isn't. Correct?Technically Godfather/Godmother accomplish the same thing asGodchild: "His Godfather was so and so" vs "He was a Godchild of soand so". Both approaches work equally well within Legacy whether thegodparents are in the file or not. However, the use of non standardLegacy tags will cause issues when the file is exported for use inanother genealogy program.My 6.5 cents ...At 2006/08/14 09:23, you
 wrote:>Hi,>>I have created an event called "Godchild" and added different>wording for the cases where diff informatio is available: for>example, "He/She became the godchild of [Desc] [onDate] at [Place]".>This works also when the godparents are not in the family tree (ie>friends of the family, i'm not interested in).>>nina>>- Original Message >From: Richard Van Wasshnova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>Sent: Saturday, 12 August, 2006 5:48:13 PM>Subject: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event>>In PAF I mostly kept an Individual's Godfather / Godmother under baptism>notes and occasionally showed a person acting as Godfather / Godmother in>misc notes.>>Since switching to Legacy I use Godfather / Godmother event for both the>baptizee and (acted as) Godfather / Godmother
 (for). Is this OK? How do>others use this? I presently differentiate the 2 ways in "Description"with>"was: John or Jane Doe" for the baptizee and "for: Joe Doe" (Joe Doe is>baptizee).What would loo k right in reports?>>It almost seems to me that my baptism was an event in my life but MY>Godparents participated in that event. If I act as Godfather for someoneit>is an event in my life.>>Thanks for any ideas.>=>Richard Van Wasshnova>Seal Beach, CALegacy User Group guidelines can be found at:>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp>>To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at:>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/>>For online technical support, please visit>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp>>To unsubscribe please visit:>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp>>Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at:>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp>>To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at:>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/>>For online technical support, please visit>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp>>To unsubscribe please visit:>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines can be found at:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visithttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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Re: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event

[SKL 1750]

Hi,
 
I have created an event called "Godchild" and added different wording for the cases where diff informatio is available: for example, "He/She became the godchild of [Desc] [onDate] at [Place]". This works also when the godparents are not in the family tree (ie friends of the family, i'm not interested in).
 
nina
- Original Message From: Richard Van Wasshnova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Saturday, 12 August, 2006 5:48:13 PMSubject: [LegacyUG] Godfather / Godmother event
In PAF I mostly kept an Individual's Godfather / Godmother under baptism notes and occasionally showed a person acting as Godfather / Godmother in misc notes.Since switching to Legacy I use Godfather / Godmother event for both the baptizee and (acted as) Godfather / Godmother (for). Is this OK? How do others use this? I presently differentiate the 2 ways in "Description" with "was: John or Jane Doe" for the baptizee and "for: Joe Doe" (Joe Doe is baptizee).What would look right in reports?It almost seems to me that my baptism was an event in my life but MY Godparents participated in that event. If I act as Godfather for someone it is an event in my life.Thanks for any ideas.=Richard Van WasshnovaSeal Beach, CA Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp



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