Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
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Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
The purpose of this list is for q & a - period! We are to keep our moral opinions to ourselves on this list. You can state your opinion about what you think is the best way to perform a task and share that with the list. The list guidelines are very clear about that. If you want to "complain to your store", that's what the support link is for. Please let us stick to q & a so we can learn the best way to enter our data and perform other tasks in Legacy. I am also very tired of all the "crap" going on here. I truly enjoy the knowledge shared here. I hate having to duck the spears being tossed about. Bob Rowe -- Original message -- From: "marilyn E B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Perhaps there are some here who like to toss things around getting opinions > from > others and then commenting wanting more information. Maybe we should hunt out > that list on RootsWeb and use it as a chat group. > > I feel that some here only want strict q & a concerning the technical > attributes of using > Legacy. > > Several have brought forth problems that need further > work/improvements. I for one will not change programs just because I > have to do my own work around for a few individuals in my program. > However, if I and several others complained to our favorite > grocery store that making an extra trip to another grocery store just > to get our favorite > bread was not making us happy campers, I know as a fact they would try > to get that > type of bread in the store. > > I guess I will add another list to all of those others from which I > receive messages or I might know of another list that would welcome > our hashing some of these issues out. > Have to go ask the List Administrator; although I may get an answer of > list because of > messages I have seen on this list. > > Marilyn > > > On 10/8/07, Dave wrote: > > > > Allen, > > > > I think you misread what she said. She said "If people COULD sanely > > discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy > > and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there > > WOULDN'T > > be a problem." I take that to be a reason why it can't be discussed. "If > > people COULD..there WOULDN'T be a problem" - but they obviously can't. > > Did you miss the other part of her statement that said "so we have > > asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these > > relationships be researched in the archives"? > > > > Dave
Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
Perhaps there are some here who like to toss things around getting opinions from others and then commenting wanting more information. Maybe we should hunt out that list on RootsWeb and use it as a chat group. I feel that some here only want strict q & a concerning the technical attributes of using Legacy. Several have brought forth problems that need further work/improvements. I for one will not change programs just because I have to do my own work around for a few individuals in my program. However, if I and several others complained to our favorite grocery store that making an extra trip to another grocery store just to get our favorite bread was not making us happy campers, I know as a fact they would try to get that type of bread in the store. I guess I will add another list to all of those others from which I receive messages or I might know of another list that would welcome our hashing some of these issues out. Have to go ask the List Administrator; although I may get an answer of list because of messages I have seen on this list. Marilyn On 10/8/07, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Allen, > > I think you misread what she said. She said "If people COULD sanely > discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy > and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there WOULDN'T > be a problem." I take that to be a reason why it can't be discussed. "If > people COULD..there WOULDN'T be a problem" - but they obviously can't. > Did you miss the other part of her statement that said "so we have > asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these > relationships be researched in the archives"? > > Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
Dave, Why don't you just back off and let people discuss alternatives with regard to the keys to punch and what to type in connection with this issue? I' m tired of people like you trying to shut down conversation. On 10/8/07, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Allen, > > I think you misread what she said. She said "If people COULD sanely > discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy > and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there > WOULDN'T > be a problem." I take that to be a reason why it can't be discussed. > "If > people COULD..there WOULDN'T be a problem" - but they obviously can't. > Did you miss the other part of her statement that said "so we have > asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these > relationships be researched in the archives"? > > Dave > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen > Prunty > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:39 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be > moderators > > Dave wrote: > > When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything > I've > > seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone. > == > > Dave, > > Sherry clearly states that if we can discuss it with keeping our > personal beliefs there would be no problem. I am suspending my personal > beliefs (which I don't condone the behavior) to discuss how to properly > record the children in the relationship and how the came to be in the > family. > > I am trying to keep the conversation as sane and non heated as > possible... and believe me I have learned a lot of good information > about legacy from people on both sides. > > As I have stated I do have this problem with my family history... it is > a real issue and as it is a part of our history ignoring it won't make > it go away. I want to fairly record this as impartially as I can so > that when the ancestors of those children look back years later they > know exactly where they came from and that they were a part of a large > and loving family. > > Allen > > > > Here is Sherry's message. > > === > > The problem is not the topic of how to enter same-sex relationships per > se. > The problem is that this topic gets very heated amongst the users so we > have > asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these > relationships be researched in the archives. > > If people could sanely discuss the question about how to handle same-sex > relationships in Legacy and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or > the other, there wouldn't be a problem. > > The whole thing is getting rather tiresome, quite frankly. > > The programmers have said in the past that when they started Legacy, they > never considered same-sex relationships. Ken wrote in part "Adding same > sex > marriages at this time is simply a change that we feel would require > considerable programming time and would rip the guts out a huge percentage > of our core code base. We could add some patch style work-around but the > program would suffer greatly in processing speed in many areas" > > It has nothing to do with Millennia "being adult about the real world". > > Thanks for using Legacy. > > Sherry > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
Allen, I think you misread what she said. She said "If people COULD sanely discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there WOULDN'T be a problem." I take that to be a reason why it can't be discussed. "If people COULD..there WOULDN'T be a problem" - but they obviously can't. Did you miss the other part of her statement that said "so we have asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these relationships be researched in the archives"? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:39 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators Dave wrote: > When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything I've > seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone. == Dave, Sherry clearly states that if we can discuss it with keeping our personal beliefs there would be no problem. I am suspending my personal beliefs (which I don't condone the behavior) to discuss how to properly record the children in the relationship and how the came to be in the family. I am trying to keep the conversation as sane and non heated as possible... and believe me I have learned a lot of good information about legacy from people on both sides. As I have stated I do have this problem with my family history... it is a real issue and as it is a part of our history ignoring it won't make it go away. I want to fairly record this as impartially as I can so that when the ancestors of those children look back years later they know exactly where they came from and that they were a part of a large and loving family. Allen Here is Sherry's message. === The problem is not the topic of how to enter same-sex relationships per se. The problem is that this topic gets very heated amongst the users so we have asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these relationships be researched in the archives. If people could sanely discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there wouldn't be a problem. The whole thing is getting rather tiresome, quite frankly. The programmers have said in the past that when they started Legacy, they never considered same-sex relationships. Ken wrote in part "Adding same sex marriages at this time is simply a change that we feel would require considerable programming time and would rip the guts out a huge percentage of our core code base. We could add some patch style work-around but the program would suffer greatly in processing speed in many areas" It has nothing to do with Millennia "being adult about the real world". Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
Dave wrote: When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything I've seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone. == Dave, Sherry clearly states that if we can discuss it with keeping our personal beliefs there would be no problem. I am suspending my personal beliefs (which I don't condone the behavior) to discuss how to properly record the children in the relationship and how the came to be in the family. I am trying to keep the conversation as sane and non heated as possible... and believe me I have learned a lot of good information about legacy from people on both sides. As I have stated I do have this problem with my family history... it is a real issue and as it is a part of our history ignoring it won't make it go away. I want to fairly record this as impartially as I can so that when the ancestors of those children look back years later they know exactly where they came from and that they were a part of a large and loving family. Allen Here is Sherry's message. === The problem is not the topic of how to enter same-sex relationships per se. The problem is that this topic gets very heated amongst the users so we have asked that it not be discussed and questions about how to handle these relationships be researched in the archives. If people could sanely discuss the question about how to handle same-sex relationships in Legacy and not start spouting personal beliefs one way or the other, there wouldn't be a problem. The whole thing is getting rather tiresome, quite frankly. The programmers have said in the past that when they started Legacy, they never considered same-sex relationships. Ken wrote in part "Adding same sex marriages at this time is simply a change that we feel would require considerable programming time and would rip the guts out a huge percentage of our core code base. We could add some patch style work-around but the program would suffer greatly in processing speed in many areas" It has nothing to do with Millennia "being adult about the real world". Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything I've seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators Perhaps those of us who want to have a constructive and adult discussion about the functionality of Legacy could finish the thread and resolve it if wanna-be moderators would just allow it. The official moderator has stated that if we can keep it on topic and task we can have this discussion. So if you don't like it please delete the messages that offend you and let us be. Please give us the courtesy to work through this. I have these real issues in my family tree and would like to figure out how to resolve them. Thank you Allen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! - Especially from the wanna-be moderators
Perhaps those of us who want to have a constructive and adult discussion about the functionality of Legacy could finish the thread and resolve it if wanna-be moderators would just allow it. The official moderator has stated that if we can keep it on topic and task we can have this discussion. So if you don't like it please delete the messages that offend you and let us be. Please give us the courtesy to work through this. I have these real issues in my family tree and would like to figure out how to resolve them. Thank you Allen Gary A Crull wrote: Geez people.GIVE IT A REST!! I was in the process of composing my comments when the following two postings showed up on the list. I agree with both. Like George, I'm pretty much one to just lurk, making few comments, occasionally asking for help. But this whole train of thought is getting tiresome. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
