Re: [LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155
Gail wrote The term source type can also be confusing. That's true -- though I don't know how else to put it -- word do fail! I'm with you that a cemetery record is a cemetery record and that the way its conveyed (rubbing, transcription, or photo) is more the medium than the message! :-) I like your idea of putting the type at the beginning of the Source name. On the other hand, I tend to put the family name first because I think that otherwise I won't remember how to find it easily. Well, as you say, we'll just have to wait for Leg 7 (wait, hope, and pray)! Really, we need to be able to sort sources much in the same way a library does. Much as I love have so many online ways of doing research, it surely has made doing citations enormously more complicated!! Thanks for your thoughts!! Pat - Original Message - From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155 Hi Pat, I think (and hope) the full/formal bibliography feature will be coming with v7, so help will be on the way. With v6, though, there is no way I have found to do a formal bibliography other than exporting the data to an external program and working on it there. It would be great if the new sourcing templates allowed you to sort first by source type. For now, I use the Source List Name field (the one not printed in the output) to list a source type first and then give a name for it. However, the source lists still prints with comma as separators instead of periods and does not sort the way a standard bibliography would. The term source type can also be confusing. Would that be book vs. media, original court record vs. microfilm at archives, etc? We almost need two fields, one for media type and another for source type. Sometimes I have two distinct sources in Legacy for a single cemetery: one for the photo I took while visiting and another for the entries I found in an online database at the same cemetery (when I forgot to take the photo during the visit). To me, they are the same source type (i.e. cemetery), but different media types (visit or photo vs. database). This whole discussion may not be needed for long, though, with v7 coming out some time this year. Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, GA www.roots2buds.net On 9/11/07, Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a pretty elementary question, but I don't seem to be able to find the answer. In Legacy 6.0.0.155, in our list of sources, the present format begins with a sort of nickname for the source. (no prescribed format) The sources are grouped in alphabetical order by this nickname. That is, the sources are not grouped by type; and then alphabetized by author's last name (to grossly over-simplify), as would typically be the case. So my question is how DO I get to a view of sources in a standard form -- in other words, how do I see what the bibliography will look like (I assuming entries WILL be in a standard form) if I do a Legacy book? Does this make sense? I'm afraid I'm overlooking something that is VERY obvious to everybody else!! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155
I do three versions. Sometimes I put the source type first in a few cases (template - 1830 census, etc, e-mail - [subject]), surname often (Walker, HR - homestead proof, Walker, HR - Confed Military, Walker, HR - Camp Douglas), and most of them geographically (Illinois - marriages online, Illinois, Hamilton - Yesterdays of Hamilton Co, etc) I like being able to scroll to HR Walker and see most of his individual (probably, therefore, more important sources). For me the combination of the three works. It may not be consistent, but since the nicknames are just for personal usage, it doesn't matter much. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155 Gail wrote The term source type can also be confusing. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155
This is a pretty elementary question, but I don't seem to be able to find the answer. In Legacy 6.0.0.155, in our list of sources, the present format begins with a sort of nickname for the source. (no prescribed format) The sources are grouped in alphabetical order by this nickname. That is, the sources are not grouped by type; and then alphabetized by author's last name (to grossly over-simplify), as would typically be the case. So my question is how DO I get to a view of sources in a standard form -- in other words, how do I see what the bibliography will look like (I assuming entries WILL be in a standard form) if I do a Legacy book? Does this make sense? I'm afraid I'm overlooking something that is VERY obvious to everybody else!! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Bibliography Leg v 6.0.0.155
Hi Pat, I think (and hope) the full/formal bibliography feature will be coming with v7, so help will be on the way. With v6, though, there is no way I have found to do a formal bibliography other than exporting the data to an external program and working on it there. It would be great if the new sourcing templates allowed you to sort first by source type. For now, I use the Source List Name field (the one not printed in the output) to list a source type first and then give a name for it. However, the source lists still prints with comma as separators instead of periods and does not sort the way a standard bibliography would. The term source type can also be confusing. Would that be book vs. media, original court record vs. microfilm at archives, etc? We almost need two fields, one for media type and another for source type. Sometimes I have two distinct sources in Legacy for a single cemetery: one for the photo I took while visiting and another for the entries I found in an online database at the same cemetery (when I forgot to take the photo during the visit). To me, they are the same source type (i.e. cemetery), but different media types (visit or photo vs. database). This whole discussion may not be needed for long, though, with v7 coming out some time this year. Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, GA www.roots2buds.net On 9/11/07, Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a pretty elementary question, but I don't seem to be able to find the answer. In Legacy 6.0.0.155, in our list of sources, the present format begins with a sort of nickname for the source. (no prescribed format) The sources are grouped in alphabetical order by this nickname. That is, the sources are not grouped by type; and then alphabetized by author's last name (to grossly over-simplify), as would typically be the case. So my question is how DO I get to a view of sources in a standard form -- in other words, how do I see what the bibliography will look like (I assuming entries WILL be in a standard form) if I do a Legacy book? Does this make sense? I'm afraid I'm overlooking something that is VERY obvious to everybody else!! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
