RE: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
Bob, More often than not I can tell from the Index if there may be a conflict - the problem really only arises when I am adding to my one-name file. If I think that I may be adding a duplicate then I use Genviewer to compare them with all the available information. It is not all that frequent so information blocking is not really an issue and more often than not I will open Genviewer, check, and close it again. When I get a few moments I will be doing it again as someone has suggested that I may have some duplicates in one little bit. In the one name file I don't remove them b.t.w. just unlink/link as necessary and put a note in. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:28:50 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ron, > > So you keep GenViewer open to the same database that you also have open in > Legacy? I know GenViewer doesn't offer any modification options, but don't > you end up with some file lock conflicts anyway? Why use GenViewer (and > have to keep ALT-TABbing back and forth) vs just doing a LINK first like the > other folks just suggested (personally, I never thought of that - I like the > idea of doing a LINK first. Too bad the LINK pop-up doesn't have a button > that reads "NOPE - NOT HERE - ADD NEW AFTER ALL") > > Now, if you have a dual monitor setup, I guess you could keep GenViewer open > on one monitor and Legacy open on the other to avoid the ALT-TABbing . . . > but I'd still be worried about file-lock issues. > > How quick does GenViewer refresh after you add some via Legacy? > > Bob > > - Original Message ----- > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:08 PM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check > > > > I'm afraid that I use Genviewer to test for duplicates. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _________ > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:59:12 -0400 > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > > > I'll be glad to read an answer to this question. I make it a habit to check > the name list on every entry I make so I make sure I'm not putting in a > duplicate. > > > > Carol > > > > In a message dated 6/4/2008 4:53:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a > person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within > legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her > (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just > put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. > > So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? > _ All new Live Search at Live.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001006ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
Ron, So you keep GenViewer open to the same database that you also have open in Legacy? I know GenViewer doesn't offer any modification options, but don't you end up with some file lock conflicts anyway? Why use GenViewer (and have to keep ALT-TABbing back and forth) vs just doing a LINK first like the other folks just suggested (personally, I never thought of that - I like the idea of doing a LINK first. Too bad the LINK pop-up doesn't have a button that reads "NOPE - NOT HERE - ADD NEW AFTER ALL") Now, if you have a dual monitor setup, I guess you could keep GenViewer open on one monitor and Legacy open on the other to avoid the ALT-TABbing . . . but I'd still be worried about file-lock issues. How quick does GenViewer refresh after you add some via Legacy? Bob - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check I'm afraid that I use Genviewer to test for duplicates. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:59:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I'll be glad to read an answer to this question. I make it a habit to check the name list on every entry I make so I make sure I'm not putting in a duplicate. Carol In a message dated 6/4/2008 4:53:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? _ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001004ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
What I do myself, when I have a stack of documents to key in, I go to the name list and search for all names on each page first. If I find some matches I write in the margin, the RIN for all people that I find. A good example, on one document I found two cousins, one of mine and one of my wifes' on the same page. This became proof that we are both 8th and 9th cousins to each other. So in my DB the missing 4-5th cousins inbetween were the only people that were needed to be added in. I have found when I don't pre-search, I always have to do the Merge later anyway, so have found the time I saved has convinced me to ALWAYS check first. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 7:55:19 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check Hi Larry, No Legacy doesn't have a Duplicate Name Check on entry. I suggest your wife gets into the habit of just entering a name and then flicking to the Index View to check whether they are already there before entering more information -or looking for the name in the Index View before adding anything. It's a feature that has been often asked for but I can't recall why it isn't added. It's not a feature I feel a need for so which is no doubt why I can't recall. Cathy At 10:56 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote: >I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can >answer a user question I had asked by my netter half. > >Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry >of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is >done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be >added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her >temper because the person she just put in was already there and now >she has a merging mess on her hand. > >So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? > >Warm regards, > >Larry Van Horn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
Hi Larry & wife, How about a duplicate check BEFORE entry of a person? When adding husband or wife or children, I choose the option 'Link to an existing ...'. That choice immediately transports me to the Name List. A quick search by surname tells me if that person is already entered in the database. If I find a suspect, I read through any or all of the 6 information tabs (detail, family, notes etc) to confirm my suspect. If none are found, I then close and return to Family View to 'Add a new ...' My temper has been restrained since I began using this procedure. To check for dups already in the database, select Tools from the top toolbar, select Merge from the list, then select Find Duplicates. Follow the recommendation to backup your file before merging and read up on Automerge before moving too quickly through the list. Hope some real veterans of the Find Duplicates & Automerge will post some tips for us. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Larry Van Horn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a user question I had asked by my netter half. Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? Warm regards, Larry Van Horn Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper Columnist Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I agree. That is our job. (Analyzing the data.) Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: GeoSci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:18:18 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check You could easily look at the name list to see. I have 4 Frank McKains and would have been rather frustrated if the program kept coming back and telling me the name was already used or something - is that what the "dup check on entry of a person" does? I (for one) am glad it is not there. I know I have dozens of repeated names (only the years and other details help tell them apart). Keith On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Larry Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a > user question I had asked by my netter half. > > Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a > person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within > legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her > (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just > put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. > > So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? > > Warm regards, > > Larry Van Horn > Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar > Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper > Columnist > Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: > http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I agree. When I am asked if I am adding a new person or linking to an existing person, I check "link" and verify that I do (or don't) already have this person. It's very simple to close the window and add the new person if he/she doesn't already exist. I've also found it a relatively simple process to merge the two if I accidentally add someone twice. I was continuously aggravated by FTM when I tried to add a new person with the same name as someone already in my file. Some people might enjoy machines that try to think for them, but a little of that goes a long way with me. Dede Holden On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM, GeoSci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could easily look at the name list to see. I have 4 Frank McKains > and would have been rather frustrated if the program kept coming back > and telling me the name was already used or something - is that what > the "dup check on entry of a person" does? I (for one) am glad it is > not there. I know I have dozens of repeated names (only the years and > other details help tell them apart). > > Keith > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Larry Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a >> user question I had asked by my netter half. >> >> Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a >> person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within >> legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her >> (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just >> put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. >> >> So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Larry Van Horn >> Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar >> Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper >> Columnist >> Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: >> http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry > > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 > EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I'm afraid that I use Genviewer to test for duplicates. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:59:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I'll be glad to read an answer to this question. I make it a habit to check the name list on every entry I make so I make sure I'm not putting in a duplicate. Carol In a message dated 6/4/2008 4:53:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? _ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001004ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
You could easily look at the name list to see. I have 4 Frank McKains and would have been rather frustrated if the program kept coming back and telling me the name was already used or something - is that what the "dup check on entry of a person" does? I (for one) am glad it is not there. I know I have dozens of repeated names (only the years and other details help tell them apart). Keith On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Larry Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a > user question I had asked by my netter half. > > Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a > person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within > legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her > (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just > put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. > > So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? > > Warm regards, > > Larry Van Horn > Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar > Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper > Columnist > Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: > http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I'll be glad to read an answer to this question. I make it a habit to check the name list on every entry I make so I make sure I'm not putting in a duplicate. Carol In a message dated 6/4/2008 4:53:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod000302) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
Hi Larry, No Legacy doesn't have a Duplicate Name Check on entry. I suggest your wife gets into the habit of just entering a name and then flicking to the Index View to check whether they are already there before entering more information -or looking for the name in the Index View before adding anything. It's a feature that has been often asked for but I can't recall why it isn't added. It's not a feature I feel a need for so which is no doubt why I can't recall. Cathy At 10:56 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote: I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a user question I had asked by my netter half. Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? Warm regards, Larry Van Horn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a user question I had asked by my netter half. Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? Warm regards, Larry Van Horn Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper Columnist Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp