Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
I am not accusing anyone of doing this, but I do know that I sometimes leave a screen by 'automatically' hitting save, when I have changed nothing nor needed to. There may also be a problem, but I could not duplicate the incident. I am using V 7.0.0.85. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Todd Carnes wrote: > From: Todd Carnes > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:36 AM > - Original Message - From: "GeoSci" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > > > > In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have > to fill in > > SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just > accidentally click on > > a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up > all kinds o fneat > > things - it should not make an entry! > > > > Keith > > I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between > single-clicks and double-clicks in the programs Options. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:26:57 -0600, "JCTripp" wrote: >a double click adds both a mother & father named unknown and brings them to >the center of the family view >with these parents named unknown Interesting. I wonder if this is intentional? -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
In ver 6.0.0.190 Deluxe, in the Family View of any individual with no parents in the center a single click in the parent window opens the ADD pop up box for father or mother, depending on location of parent window click a double click adds both a mother & father named unknown and brings them to the center of the family view with these parents named unknown unlinking from the child removes them from the marriage list no action adds them to the marriage list - these parents do not show up on the name list, but do show on the marriage list with MRIN I have no imports in my file, but I am way too fast on the double click. I'm sure my unknown MRINs come from my double clicks as I do use a name for all parents with no known name that I need for entry of others, like siblings. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Dennis M. Kowallek To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson wrote: it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Well, maybe but I rather think I would do it automatically as I usually do when opening files. Actually, the only time I use the clicking the Parents Icon is on the rare occasion when I wish to add a second set of parents, or link an island person to existing parents. Otherwise I usually click the box above the individual in Family View. Which would indicate that this is not where my own unknowns are coming from! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: toddcar...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:51:33 -0500 > > Well, yes, but if you change to double-clicks you'd be less likely to have > this happen. > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:01 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > > > > Todd, > > That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should > be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. > > > > Ron Ferguson _ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Well, yes, but if you change to double-clicks you'd be less likely to have this happen. - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Todd, That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
> From: kowal...@iglou.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:43:49 -0500 > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:16:57 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the "Add New Parents" >>Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it >>auto adding unknown/unknown? > > In V6 when I click right-click on a top-most individual and click Add> > Parents... I am taken to a blank Parents List. Then, when I click Add > New Parents, Unknown to Unknown gets added to the listbox at the top of > the window. Clicking Close or Select takes me back to the Family View. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > Thanks, Dennis Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:16:57 +, ronald ferguson wrote: >I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the "Add New Parents" >Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it >auto adding unknown/unknown? In V6 when I click right-click on a top-most individual and click Add > Parents... I am taken to a blank Parents List. Then, when I click Add New Parents, Unknown to Unknown gets added to the listbox at the top of the window. Clicking Close or Select takes me back to the Family View. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:07:37 +, ronald ferguson wrote: >Sorry, you also have to click add new parents before clicking Close OK. But I wouldn't consider that a bug. Legacy didn't do it without the user's knowledge. I agree that in your case it sounds like something else is causing the Unknown to Unknown marriages to creep in. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
> From: kowal...@iglou.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:08:59 -0500 > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, >>then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. > > H... > > I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > Dennis, There should be another email from me before this. I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the "Add New Parents" Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it auto adding unknown/unknown? Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
> From: kowal...@iglou.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:08:59 -0500 > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, >>then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. > > H... > > I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > >Sorry, you also have to click add new parents before clicking Close Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ ! _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Todd, That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: toddcar...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:36:01 -0500 > > > - Original Message - > From: "GeoSci" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > > >> In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in >> SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on >> a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat >> things - it should not make an entry! >> >> Keith > > I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between single-clicks and > double-clicks in the programs Options. > _ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
- Original Message - From: "GeoSci" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between single-clicks and double-clicks in the programs Options. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, >>then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. > > H... > > I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson wrote: >If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, >then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. H... I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Dennis, My description was somewhat scrappy ;-). If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: kowal...@iglou.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:22:46 -0500 > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have >>never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. >> >>As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another >>way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. > > Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a > way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Discovered 53 people with "Unknown/Unknown" parents!!! I may have messed up some - but not THAT often! Will report on Beta Test Group to get it to SUPPORT. Thanks Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson > wrote: > >>it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have >>never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. >> >>As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another >>way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. > > Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a > way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
I don't think it is a bug. I have noticed that I have ended up with the same, and the reason was I clicked the wrong place as if I was going to enter a parent, which I was not as I did not know them, but it created a set of unknown parents. Sometimes you might want to have unknown for parents in order to connect siblings. Anne - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Keith, I have just checked all my unknown marriage links. I have found a small number of unknown/unknown. All are the parents of recent additions to my files. It seems, therefore, likely that this is a bug which has only recently crept in. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:53:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors From: geosc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com OK - that worked - BUT now - How do I know if the same problem is true of others in my database?? This was the way to FIND the End of Line Ancestors - but this flaw in the program (magic parents that are blank and blank) makes this search useless - RIGHT?? Can this be programmed out?? Parents that are blank and blank are crazy (or Unknown and Unknown -- uness someone actually enters them that way). The Legacy Program should NOT be allowed to PRESUME - it should reflect entered data ONLY. SUPPORT??? Thanks Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM, GeoSci wrote: Will check for Unknown-Unknown - but I know there has been NO import and I did NOT put them there. I wonder if - when I a trying to get to my 1st McKain and I just keep clicking the latest one - if that (somehow) enters a blank person??? Humm - a possibility. Thanks all! Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Todd Carnes wrote: - Original Message - From: "John S. Adams" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. Hope this helps. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA I, too, recently found several sets of "unknown" parents that I had to manually unlink from child. I'm not sure how they got there, but i know that _I_ did not put them there. Todd P.S. I'm using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.86 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Arch
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson wrote: >it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have >never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. > >As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another way >of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Dennis, I am sure that your are correct in saying that it can arise from an imported file. However the three which I have found are attached to records added directly into my database within the last 2-3 months. As the parents of these individuals were born in Ireland in the late 1700s - early 1800s, a time and place where it is notoriously difficult to trace ancestors, it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: kowal...@iglou.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:35:44 -0500 > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:53:19 -0500, GeoSci wrote: > >>How do I know if the same problem is >>true of others in my database?? > > Go to the Marriage List and look for all Unknown to Unknown marriages. > > I think that one of the causes of this is importing data. I don't > remember the details because I haven't imported anything in a while. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - LTools > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > _ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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If you go to the second individual from the end of line ancester you will then have the end of line ancester in the parents position. Now if you double click on the actual end of line ancester you will have 'unknown' in both the father and mother position. It just takes one extra click. I then go to the father and put XXX in the given name. Then I can delete the unknows ancester. This takes away both the unknown father and the unknown mother. I hope this helps. It is easy to do. Jim Fitch On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:53:19 -0500, GeoSci wrote: >How do I know if the same problem is >true of others in my database?? Go to the Marriage List and look for all Unknown to Unknown marriages. I think that one of the causes of this is importing data. I don't remember the details because I haven't imported anything in a while. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Keith, I have just checked all my unknown marriage links. I have found a small number of unknown/unknown. All are the parents of recent additions to my files. It seems, therefore, likely that this is a bug which has only recently crept in. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:53:19 -0500 > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > From: geosc...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > OK - that worked - BUT now - How do I know if the same problem is > true of others in my database?? This was the way to FIND the End of > Line Ancestors - but this flaw in the program (magic parents that are > blank and blank) makes this search useless - RIGHT?? > > Can this be programmed out?? Parents that are blank and blank are > crazy (or Unknown and Unknown -- uness someone actually enters them > that way). The Legacy Program should NOT be allowed to PRESUME - it > should reflect entered data ONLY. SUPPORT??? > > Thanks > Keith > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM, GeoSci wrote: >> Will check for Unknown-Unknown - but I know there has been NO import >> and I did NOT put them there. I wonder if - when I a trying to get to >> my 1st McKain and I just keep clicking the latest one - if that >> (somehow) enters a blank person??? Humm - a possibility. >> >> Thanks all! >> Keith >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Todd Carnes wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John S. Adams" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:26 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors >>> >>> >>>> I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, >>>> in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the >>>> Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's >>>> son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary >>>> person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his >>>> name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. >>>> When >>>> I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for >>>> parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on >>>> it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of >>>> that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted >>>> the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" >>>> routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may >>>> be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> John S. Adams >>>> Hermosa Beach, CA >>> >>> I, too, recently found several sets of "unknown" parents that I had to >>> manually unlink from child. I'm not sure how they got there, but i know that >>> _I_ did not put them there. >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> P.S. I'm using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.86 >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry >> >> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 >> EMail: geosc...@gmail.com >> McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 >> > > > > -- > Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry > > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 > EMail: geosc...@gmail.com > McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:53:19 -0500, GeoSci wrote: >How do I know if the same problem is >true of others in my database?? Go to the Marriage List and look for all Unknown to Unknown marriages. I think that one of the causes of this is importing data. I don't remember the details because I haven't imported anything in a while. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
OK - that worked - BUT now - How do I know if the same problem is true of others in my database?? This was the way to FIND the End of Line Ancestors - but this flaw in the program (magic parents that are blank and blank) makes this search useless - RIGHT?? Can this be programmed out?? Parents that are blank and blank are crazy (or Unknown and Unknown -- uness someone actually enters them that way). The Legacy Program should NOT be allowed to PRESUME - it should reflect entered data ONLY. SUPPORT??? Thanks Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM, GeoSci wrote: > Will check for Unknown-Unknown - but I know there has been NO import > and I did NOT put them there. I wonder if - when I a trying to get to > my 1st McKain and I just keep clicking the latest one - if that > (somehow) enters a blank person??? Humm - a possibility. > > Thanks all! > Keith > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Todd Carnes wrote: >> - Original Message - From: "John S. Adams" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors >> >> >>> I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, >>> in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the >>> Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's >>> son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary >>> person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his >>> name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When >>> I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for >>> parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on >>> it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of >>> that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted >>> the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" >>> routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. >>> >>> I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may >>> be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> John S. Adams >>> Hermosa Beach, CA >> >> I, too, recently found several sets of "unknown" parents that I had to >> manually unlink from child. I'm not sure how they got there, but i know that >> _I_ did not put them there. >> >> Todd >> >> P.S. I'm using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.86 >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry > > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 > EMail: geosc...@gmail.com > McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
The right idea but with a small exception and a flaw in the current marriage list. The flaw is as follows: Under Options>Customize>Data Format>Word for Blank Records set to (Just leave it blank) the Marr List shows "Unknown" instead of blank. The correct fix to these marriage records with both spouses blank depends on three things. 1) If there is marriage information such as a date or place, then enter something for one or both spouses so that they show with a RIN number meaning that an individual record has been linked to the marriage record. 2) If there is more than one child linked to the parents marriage record, they are connected as siblings by way of that marriage record so again add spouses as in case #1 above. 3) If there is only one child linked to the parents marriage record and the marriage record contains no information, then "Remove the Marriage Link..." by right clicking on the parents marriage record that has no RIN numbers connected. Hope this helps. The faulty marriage records seem to be generated by import from PAF files. Perhaps the Legacy programmers could look into the import and prevent this situation from occurring in the first place. Ron Taylor --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Carl Cox wrote: From: Carl Cox Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 3:15 PM Look on the Marriage list for 'Unknown - Unknown' or 'blank-blank' parents they can all be deleted, I think. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Will check for Unknown-Unknown - but I know there has been NO import and I did NOT put them there. I wonder if - when I a trying to get to my 1st McKain and I just keep clicking the latest one - if that (somehow) enters a blank person??? Humm - a possibility. Thanks all! Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Todd Carnes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "John S. Adams" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > > >> I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, >> in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the >> Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's >> son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary >> person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his >> name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When >> I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for >> parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on >> it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of >> that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted >> the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" >> routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. >> >> I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may >> be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> John S. Adams >> Hermosa Beach, CA > > I, too, recently found several sets of "unknown" parents that I had to > manually unlink from child. I'm not sure how they got there, but i know that > _I_ did not put them there. > > Todd > > P.S. I'm using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.86 > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
- Original Message - From: "John S. Adams" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. Hope this helps. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA I, too, recently found several sets of "unknown" parents that I had to manually unlink from child. I'm not sure how they got there, but i know that _I_ did not put them there. Todd P.S. I'm using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.86 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Look on the Marriage list for 'Unknown - Unknown' or 'blank-blank' parents they can all be deleted, I think. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Ancestors named "unknown" was my first thought too. The can get there by user entry, or by importing GEDCOM files. Gary - Original Message - From: "John S. Adams" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. Hope this helps. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: "GeoSci" Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:51 AM To: "Legacy User Group" Subject: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors From Legacy News: End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now have new end-of-line ancestors. Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify them for you using one of the two following methods. Special Search List First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself. Click on Search > Find > Miscellaneous tab. Select the "Direct-line ancestors with no parents" option and click on Create List. WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE NOT IN THE LIST!! There is NO McKain!! NO Horn (my maternal Grandfather). Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong! Ideas?? Keith -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, in the list. When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the Family View screen, the parents block was empty. I then selected Asahel's son Asa, my next earliest direct line ancestor. With Asa as the primary person, Asahel appears in the parents block with a "+" at the left of his name. This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel. When I moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for parents was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents. When I clicked on it, the pop-up screen showed parents "unknown & unknown." At the bottom of that pop-up is a button labeled "Unlink from Child." Selecting that deleted the unknown parents. I ran the "find direct line ancestors with no parents" routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS. I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may be your problem. Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors. Hope this helps. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: "GeoSci" Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:51 AM To: "Legacy User Group" Subject: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors From Legacy News: End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now have new end-of-line ancestors. Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify them for you using one of the two following methods. Special Search List First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself. Click on Search > Find > Miscellaneous tab. Select the "Direct-line ancestors with no parents" option and click on Create List. WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE NOT IN THE LIST!! There is NO McKain!! NO Horn (my maternal Grandfather). Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong! Ideas?? Keith -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Ran it twice (Check/Repair) and still no McKain or Horn (there may be others) - and I KNOW where they should end!! Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: > > > Keith, > > Mine seems to be OK, but it is difficult to tell as there are 41. All the > obvious ones are there though. > > You could try a File>File Maintenance>Check/Repair to check the links are all > OK. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > > > > ------------ >> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:51:40 -0500 >> Subject: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors >> From: geosc...@gmail.com >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com >> >> From Legacy News: >> >> End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study >> them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a >> quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now >> have new end-of-line ancestors. >> >> Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify >> them for you using one of the two following methods. >> >> Special Search List >> >> First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself. >> Click on Search> Find> Miscellaneous tab. >> Select the "Direct-line ancestors with no parents" option and click on >> Create List. >> >> >> WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE >> NOT IN THE LIST!! There is NO McKain!! NO Horn (my maternal >> Grandfather). Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong! Ideas?? >> >> Keith >> >> >> -- >> Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry >> >> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 >> EMail: geosc...@gmail.com >> McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 >> > _ > Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn > more. > http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Keith, Mine seems to be OK, but it is difficult to tell as there are 41. All the obvious ones are there though. You could try a File>File Maintenance>Check/Repair to check the links are all OK. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:51:40 -0500 > Subject: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors > From: geosc...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > > From Legacy News: > > End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study > them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a > quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now > have new end-of-line ancestors. > > Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify > them for you using one of the two following methods. > > Special Search List > > First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself. > Click on Search> Find> Miscellaneous tab. > Select the "Direct-line ancestors with no parents" option and click on > Create List. > > > WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE > NOT IN THE LIST!! There is NO McKain!! NO Horn (my maternal > Grandfather). Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong! Ideas?? > > Keith > > > -- > Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry > > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 > EMail: geosc...@gmail.com > McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 > _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
>From Legacy News: End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now have new end-of-line ancestors. Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify them for you using one of the two following methods. Special Search List First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself. Click on Search > Find > Miscellaneous tab. Select the "Direct-line ancestors with no parents" option and click on Create List. WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE NOT IN THE LIST!! There is NO McKain!! NO Horn (my maternal Grandfather). Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong! Ideas?? Keith -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
