Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
- Original Message - From: Karl Plenge To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 Aug 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History What does EOB stand for ??? EOB = End of Branch - the last living descendant in a line - when they die, there are no more living descendants of that particular line. Then I go back upstream and tag all their ancestors NLD = No Living Descendants until I get far enough up that someone does have living descendants. This way I can easily tell from family view on any family which members still have living descendants today that I might try to track down, and which ones I can close the book on. Thanks, Karl, this is a great hint! Do you use the EOB for both the male surname and female MaidenName -- or just the EOB for for the male surname? Best Regards, Mark Wilson Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Thanks, Karl, this is a great hint! Do you use the EOB for both the male surname and female MaidenName -- or just the EOB for for the male surname? I put EOB on everyone who is the end of a branch (ie descendant of one of my ancestors). I don't tag their spouse because they are not blood related. I put EOB in the Title Suffix box where you would normally put Sr, Jr, III, MD, PhD, etc. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
When one wants to mark a certain line as ended because of no male heirs, etc. where does one put this notation? I was thinking as putting End of Male Line as a child - but, for me that would mess up my names list (which I like to keep as clean as possible). Any suggestions??? Thanks happy hunting... Pami Main Lines: TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related inter-related lines (too many to mention). ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
When one wants to mark a certain line as ended because of no male heirs, etc. where does one put this notation? I was thinking as putting End of Male Line as a child - but, for me that would mess up my names list (which I like to keep as clean as possible). Any suggestions??? I like Marilyn's idea of NMD = No Male Descendants. I place my similar markers in Title Suffix where you would normally put Sr, Jr, MD, etc. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
OT But I would gladly acknowledge and pay for DNA to prove a male existed after my brother and a cousin for my direct line on either mother's or father's line. There are other males but all born to daughters. Smiles, Marilyn On 8/23/07, Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Plenge wrote: When one wants to mark a certain line as ended because of no male heirs, etc. where does one put this notation? I was thinking as putting End of Male Line as a child - but, for me that would mess up my names list (which I like to keep as clean as possible). Any suggestions??? Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Mike, That is a good point to be taken. I have been reading with interest about signifying the end of a line. But, How many times in our research have we turned up children that no one ever knew existed? Thanks for the thought. -- Paul You might want to be be a little less precise - No Known or Acknowledged male Descendants. Covers all bases. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
One point is that one of my own brother's is 61 this year. He found out about two years ago that he had a daughter he never knew about and through her he had a granddaughter and a grandson. The grandson turned 15 last week. Just goes to show that we never know for sure. DNA proved it and also proved it on another brother when a woman wanted to sell him his grandson for 300K. We thought we would lose my brother to massive coronary. LOL But, DNA proved it true but, he filed for custody and now raises the grandson when we thought it was the end of branch. -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA But I would gladly acknowledge and pay for DNA to prove a male existed after my brother and a cousin for my direct line on either mother's or father's line. There are other males but all born to daughters. Smiles, Marilyn Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
I wouldn't worry about marking the end of a male line in your database. When Legacy 7 comes out you could create a chart of all male descendants. It would be easy then to see if there are any living males still around. Renee Zamorawww.harrisena.com Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:10:47 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History OT But I would gladly acknowledge and pay for DNA to prove a male existed after my brother and a cousin for my direct line on either mother's or father's line. There are other males but all born to daughters. Smiles, Marilyn On 8/23/07, Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Plenge wrote: When one wants to mark a certain line as ended because of no male heirs, etc. where does one put this notation? I was thinking as putting End of Male Line as a child - but, for me that would mess up my names list (which I like to keep as clean as possible). Any suggestions??? Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Give it a rest Mike, nobody likes being flamed. This list is very helpful and informative, and how you reacted to an innocent question was unreasonable, but there is no need to go on - I'm done with this topic Cheers Tracy Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Sorry t0o be so dumb but what does EOB stand for ??? I know I will say Oh of course when I get the answer. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Plenge Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2007 8:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History When I have gone back as far as I can or as far as I want to (off shoots that are no longer related) I create one more person and call him ~ Name History, the ~ being the surname of that line. (Example Ellis Name History) There is a similar thing that I do (though slightly different in purpose). When I reach the end of a branch (a person who died with no descendants), I put EOB in the Title Suffix box so that when I am looking at various charts or reports I can tell that there is no one further to research in that line easily without having to dig in to the data to figure it out. (Because of working on many people/lines simultaneously, I forget the details of each one quickly.) Likewise, because I am particularly interested in finding living descendants, when I have confirmed that someone who is not an EOB has no living descendants, I put NLD. That way I can tell at a quick glance which of, say, my great great grandfather's children have living descendants, and which don't. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Valerie, It took me a while to figure this out, too, but I think it's End of Branch. Regards, Dermot. P.S. Enjoy your trip to Ireland. The weather here has started getting a little better (by Irish standards, at least!) and is expected to be dry and warm for the next week or two anyway. On 22/08/07, Valeris Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry t0o be so dumb but what does EOB stand for ??? I know I will say Oh of course when I get the answer. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Valeris Garton wrote: Sorry t0o be so dumb but what does EOB stand for ??? I know I will say Oh of course when I get the answer. When I reach the end of a branch (a person who died with no descendants), I put EOB in the Title Suffix box so that when I am looking at various charts EOB = end of a branch -- Gene Y. Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox. http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
What does EOB stand for ??? EOB = End of Branch - the last living descendant in a line - when they die, there are no more living descendants of that particular line. Then I go back upstream and tag all their ancestors NLD = No Living Descendants until I get far enough up that someone does have living descendants. This way I can easily tell from family view on any family which members still have living descendants today that I might try to track down, and which ones I can close the book on. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
LET'S STOP WITH THIS MORONIC NIT-PICKING!!! We're supposed to be adults yet - some people in this group (no names will be mentioned) are acting as if they are still in elementary school. Sorry - I had to vent... This is supposed to be a group dedicated to Legacy where users can share experiences, ask questions and learn more about the programme. Thanks Pami Taylor Main Lines: TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related inter-related lines (too many to mention). ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Folks, you are greasing the squeaky wheel and giving the nitpickers exactly what they want... ATTENTION... Just ignore the nitpickers and maybe they will move onto another user group where they will be given the attention that they desire. On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LET'S STOP WITH THIS MORONIC NIT-PICKING!!! We're supposed to be adults yet - some people in this group (no names will be mentioned) are acting as if they are still in elementary school. Sorry - I had to vent... This is supposed to be a group dedicated to Legacy where users can share experiences, ask questions and learn more about the programme. Thanks Pami Taylor Main Lines: TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related inter-related lines (too many to mention). -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
For those who use the suffix box for acronyms - does it cause confusion when you print out reports or charts? I'm the only one who uses my data, and I put them in for my own benefit. They help me remember little details without having to think them out each time. My data is on rootsweb, but no one has ever commented on them, I guess they don't even notice them. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Aha - you must be one of the grumpy people. Her question does have to do with the subject line. See Karl Plenge and June McDonaldl e-mails - they use the suffix field for EOB' for end of branch, NO for not ours, etc. - Original Message - From: Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History Tracy Skegg wrote: For those who use the suffix box for acronyms - does it cause confusion when you print out reports or charts? Tracy, What on earth has this to do with the subject that Jenny and I were talking about? Don't *reply* or *follow-up* to a subject with another subject that should start a new thread. You should *write a NEW* message when the subject is entirely different. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Yes, the same for me as Karl is saying. As yet I haven't got to printing out reports and I hope by the time I do I will have been able to weed out and confirm most/some of them. June - Original Message - From: Karl Plenge For those who use the suffix box for acronyms - does it cause confusion when you print out reports or charts? I'm the only one who uses my data, and I put them in for my own benefit. They help me remember little details without having to think them out each time. My data is on rootsweb, but no one has ever commented on them, I guess they don't even notice them. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Excuse me Mike, but the original thread to this subject line was about family names not coat of arms. Please don't complain when I ask a question on the original thread. Cheers Tracy Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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PS I use Google which lumps every subject line in together - I hate Outlook. I just noticed that both suffix and coat of arms on this subject line - calm down out there, its not life or death :) Cheers Tracy Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Tracy Skegg wrote: Excuse me Mike, but the original thread to this subject line was about family names not coat of arms. Please don't complain when I ask a question on the original thread. Tracy, You may be on topic with the original subject, but your message was in reference i.e. linked to a message that had digressed from Graeme's original message. If you view your messages correctly threaded, you will see this. Perhaps this might help to convince you. Here's a header from your message that I complained about In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice: it's *my* message id. Here's the message id. from Karl's message. The one you intended to refer to. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are too many people in this mailing list that just churn out messages without regard to what they're in reference to. Most of this comes, I'm sure, from misunderstanding web-based mail and using poorly designed email tools. People read the messages in the thread and then want to reply. This reply usually gets linked to the last message in the thread that they were reading and not the message they were trying to reply to. An unintended consequence, I'm sure. I just hope they keep their family history records with better care and attention. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Tracy Skegg wrote: PS I use Google which lumps every subject line in together - I hate Outlook. I just noticed that both suffix and coat of arms on this subject line - calm down out there, its not life or death :) I don't and never will use a web-based mailing product. To me, email in a mailing list like this one is a text environment. HTML should play no part at all, and should really only be used, if ever, between friends and family in private stuff. Since I don't use gmail, I can't really comment on what you're saying about everything being treated as just a sequence of messages in date received sequence. Since gmail lets you organise your mail by folder, I'm sure there must be a facility to sort the mail in a folder according to subject matter. If gmail is the same thing as Google Mail, then it's called a Conversation. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Mike Fry wrote Or, if they want a really good argument, try broaching the subject on soc.genealogy.britain :-) Do you really want to unleash DM on the nice folks of LUG?! -- Jenny M Benson Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
Graeme Ellis wrote It would be great if I could also enter a copy of the family crest (coat of arms) somewhere. I don't know what the position is in Australia but in England and Scotland Arms are granted to an individual and passed on to his son at his death and there are very strict rules about their use. They are *not* just generally related to anyone of a particular surname (despite what many websites will tell you). And incidentally, the crest is just one element of a full Coat of Arms. If the Grandfather in your example was English or Scottish, it would be wrong to include the Arms unless you knew that he had been granted them or had inherited them from his father. -- Jenny M Benson Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
For those with a serious interest in this subject I would recommend a visit to the site of The College of Arms at: http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Mitch Mackrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:50:42 -0600 I agree with Jenny. I lived in South Africa for a while where they had an organization (The SA Bureau of Heraldry, I think) that took care of coats of arms in that country and the same rules applied there - a coat of arms had to be registered to a single person. Since all my ancestry is from England or Scotland, I delved into this as well. What is generally sold over the Internet, and elsewhere, including in Scotland are invalid. They are often coats of arms that might have belonged to an individual in the family, but that gives no right to anyone else to display them as their own. It is one of the biggest cons in terms of generating the perpetrators money and giving a false sense of ownership to the donor of the money. I hope that didn't ruin anyone's morning/evening, but it's true, Cheers, Mitch Mackrory On 8/19/07, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graeme Ellis wrote It would be great if I could also enter a copy of the family crest (coat of arms) somewhere. I don't know what the position is in Australia but in England and Scotland Arms are granted to an individual and passed on to his son at his death and there are very strict rules about their use. They are *not* just generally related to anyone of a particular surname (despite what many websites will tell you). And incidentally, the crest is just one element of a full Coat of Arms. If the Grandfather in your example was English or Scottish, it would be wrong to include the Arms unless you knew that he had been granted them or had inherited them from his father. -- Jenny M Benson _ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
At 23:20 19/08/2007, Mike Fry wrote: ronald ferguson wrote: For those with a serious interest in this subject I would recommend a visit to the site of The College of Arms at: http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ Or, if they want a really good argument, try broaching the subject on soc.genealogy.britain :-) Mike, That should really get Roy Stockdill and friends off! Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
When I have gone back as far as I can or as far as I want to (off shoots that are no longer related) I create one more person and call him ~ Name History, the ~ being the surname of that line. (Example Ellis Name History) There is a similar thing that I do (though slightly different in purpose). When I reach the end of a branch (a person who died with no descendants), I put EOB in the Title Suffix box so that when I am looking at various charts or reports I can tell that there is no one further to research in that line easily without having to dig in to the data to figure it out. (Because of working on many people/lines simultaneously, I forget the details of each one quickly.) Likewise, because I am particularly interested in finding living descendants, when I have confirmed that someone who is not an EOB has no living descendants, I put NLD. That way I can tell at a quick glance which of, say, my great great grandfather's children have living descendants, and which don't. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History
I hadn't thought of the EOB, but I like that. In the same way, if I have someone who I think could be a family member but as yet am not sure, I enter (in the title suffix box) NCO (Not Confirmed Ours). It is possible they well may be but as yet it is not confirmed. I put in NO (Not Ours) if they are somewhat further afield but I still would like to have their info recorded. For the ones that are definitely 'mine' but in a line people with the same name I put OURS. I find them so much easier to track this way. June - Original Message - From: Karl Plenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History When I have gone back as far as I can or as far as I want to (off shoots that are no longer related) I create one more person and call him ~ Name History, the ~ being the surname of that line. (Example Ellis Name History) There is a similar thing that I do (though slightly different in purpose). When I reach the end of a branch (a person who died with no descendants), I put EOB in the Title Suffix box so that when I am looking at various charts or reports I can tell that there is no one further to research in that line easily without having to dig in to the data to figure it out. (Because of working on many people/lines simultaneously, I forget the details of each one quickly.) Likewise, because I am particularly interested in finding living descendants, when I have confirmed that someone who is not an EOB has no living descendants, I put NLD. That way I can tell at a quick glance which of, say, my great great grandfather's children have living descendants, and which don't. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
