[LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread Michele Lewis
I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my ancestors (just a 
couple of generations worth) and the output is not good.  I would have to 
import this report into Word and clean it up.  All of the wording is wrong, 
formating is wrong etc (based on the standards in place by the Board for 
Certification of Genealogists and the wonderful book Professional Genealogy by 
Elizabeth Shown Mills, as well as her citation books).  I am not saying that 
the report should be coming out perfect and I am glad that you can change the 
wording on the event fields (sentence override) but I am going to have to go in 
and pretty much change the wording on all of the event fields (and I am 
thinking that I am going to have to do this on each individual and that any 
changes I make will not carry over person to person).

I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of sorts that 
will format the sources to comform to the standards outlined by Elizabeth Shown 
Mills but I wonder if there should be a data wizard that will make sure that 
all of the data is in a standarized format. 

Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a book 
format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes out.  There 
is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a formatted book comes 
out.  You would have to import the entire book into Word and clean it up which 
would take countless hours (might be easier to just type it in from scratch 
using a printout from Legacy as your notes).

I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great features 
that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming and I am hoping 
this is an area where there will be some improvement.

Michele Lewis
Staff Genealogist, McDuffie Mirror




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Re: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread Mary Young
Michele
Edit Event Sentence Definition makes the global changes you want.
Sentence Override is useful when the standard sentence doesn't fit the case.
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RE: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread M. Brenzel
You can change the wording for sentences in the Master Event list and it
will carry over to each person using that event.  You can also change
them for an individual but it will not be a global change.
 
Mary
 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated
 
I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my ancestors
(just a couple of generations worth) and the output is not good.  I
would have to import this report into Word and clean it up.  All of the
wording is wrong, formating is wrong etc (based on the standards in
place by the Board for Certification of Genealogists and the wonderful
book Professional Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, as well as her
citation books).  I am not saying that the report should be coming out
perfect and I am glad that you can change the wording on the event
fields (sentence override) but I am going to have to go in and pretty
much change the wording on all of the event fields (and I am thinking
that I am going to have to do this on each individual and that any
changes I make will not carry over person to person).
 
I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of sorts
that will format the sources to comform to the standards outlined by
Elizabeth Shown Mills but I wonder if there should be a data wizard that
will make sure that all of the data is in a standarized format. 
 
Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a
book format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes
out.  There is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a
formatted book comes out.  You would have to import the entire book into
Word and clean it up which would take countless hours (might be easier
to just type it in from scratch using a printout from Legacy as your
notes).
 
I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great
features that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming
and I am hoping this is an area where there will be some improvement.
 
Michele Lewis
Staff Genealogist, McDuffie Mirror
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RE: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Michele,

For our register and modified register books, we have followed the standards
as outlined in the following books:

- Genealogical Writing in the 21st Century: A Guide to Register Style and
More by Henry B. Hoff, editor
- Numbering Your Genealogy: Basic Systems, Complex Families, and
International Kin by Curran, Crane, and Wray
- The BCG Genealogical Standards Manual by the Board for Certification of
Genealogists

If you've found something that you feel is not in accordance to these
standards, please let us know. Custom event sentences do not have strict
standards, rather, the books suggest that the researcher weave the context
of an ancestor's life into the software-generated outline. Therefore there
is no standard for these kind of sentences.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:18 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my ancestors
(just a couple of generations worth) and the output is not good.  I would
have to import this report into Word and clean it up.  All of the wording is
wrong, formating is wrong etc (based on the standards in place by the Board
for Certification of Genealogists and the wonderful book Professional
Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, as well as her citation books).  I am
not saying that the report should be coming out perfect and I am glad that
you can change the wording on the event fields (sentence override) but I am
going to have to go in and pretty much change the wording on all of the
event fields (and I am thinking that I am going to have to do this on each
individual and that any changes I make will not carry over person to
person).
 
I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of sorts
that will format the sources to comform to the standards outlined by
Elizabeth Shown Mills but I wonder if there should be a data wizard that
will make sure that all of the data is in a standarized format. 
 
Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a book
format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes out. 
There is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a formatted
book comes out.  You would have to import the entire book into Word and
clean it up which would take countless hours (might be easier to just type
it in from scratch using a printout from Legacy as your notes).
 
I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great
features that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming and I
am hoping this is an area where there will be some improvement.
 
Michele Lewis
Staff Genealogist, McDuffie Mirror





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Re: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread Leon Chapman
Michele:

You are on the right track.
I always take a Preview of reports to make sure the wording is like I
want it when I add sources and events.  The screens also show you how
the events / sources will be printed.  A little tweaking can normally
get the right results.

If you have imported from another program, then you will have to do
some clean up work.

Legacy offers so many options that other programs do not have
available to the user, so much of the inputs in other programs creates
problems that you didn't know you had -- like in the Location fields.

According to the peak looks that has been reported on the new Legacy,
there should be more standard templates that one can use.  You may
want to wait till the new version comes along.

Good luck
Chapy

On Nov 21, 2007 8:17 AM, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my ancestors
 (just a couple of generations worth) and the output is not good.  I would
 have to import this report into Word and clean it up.  All of the wording is
 wrong, formating is wrong etc (based on the standards in place by the Board
 for Certification of Genealogists and the wonderful book Professional
 Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, as well as her citation books).  I am
 not saying that the report should be coming out perfect and I am glad that
 you can change the wording on the event fields (sentence override) but I am
 going to have to go in and pretty much change the wording on all of the
 event fields (and I am thinking that I am going to have to do this on each
 individual and that any changes I make will not carry over person to
 person).

 I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of sorts
 that will format the sources to comform to the standards outlined by
 Elizabeth Shown Mills but I wonder if there should be a data wizard that
 will make sure that all of the data is in a standarized format.

 Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a book
 format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes out.
 There is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a formatted
 book comes out.  You would have to import the entire book into Word and
 clean it up which would take countless hours (might be easier to just type
 it in from scratch using a printout from Legacy as your notes).

 I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great
 features that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming and I
 am hoping this is an area where there will be some improvement.

 Michele Lewis
 Staff Genealogist, McDuffie Mirror

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Re: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread Wendy Howard

Hi Michele,

When you say All of the wording is wrong, formating is wrong etc, can 
you give us an example or two to work with?  It may be a matter of 
something you can adjust to how you want, in which case we can help 
you.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 
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I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my 
ancestors (just a couple of generations worth) and the output is not 
good.  I would have to import this report into Word and clean it up.  
All of the wording is wrong, formating is wrong etc (based on the 
standards in place by the Board for Certification of Genealogists and 
the wonderful book Professional Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, as 
well as her citation books).  I am not saying that the report should 
be coming out perfect and I am glad that you can change the wording on 
the event fields (sentence override) but I am going to have to go in 
and pretty much change the wording on all of the event fields (and I 
am thinking that I am going to have to do this on each individual and 
that any changes I make will not carry over person to person).
 
I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of 
sorts that will format the sources to comform to the standards 
outlined by Elizabeth Shown Mills but I wonder if there should be a 
data wizard that will make sure that all of the data is in a 
standarized format. 
 
Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a 
book format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes 
out.  There is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a 
formatted book comes out.  You would have to import the entire book 
into Word and clean it up which would take countless hours (might be 
easier to just type it in from scratch using a printout from Legacy as 
your notes).
 
I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great 
features that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming 
and I am hoping this is an area where there will be some improvement.
 
Michele Lewis

Staff Genealogist, McDuffie Mirror




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