RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[ronald ferguson]

Cathy,

In England that is sort of true. At one time when there were only eclesiastical 
parishes that was true. However the creation of civil parishes made that much 
more uncertain, even today new civil parishes are being created.

For example let us take Aspull again. At one time it was Aspull, Lancashire, 
England, then Aspull, Wigan, Lancashire, England, followed by Aspull, Wigan, 
Greater Manchester, England, and then back to Aspull, Wigan, Lancashire, 
England, where it is today. As far as I know there is only one Aspull in 
Lancashire (OK - I'm ready to be shot down). But I would wouldn't like to count 
the number of Bartons, not all were parishes and some were like Barton upon 
Irwell with a double barrelled name, some have become civil parishes, or 
districts and some eclesiastical parishes have been absorbed into others.

As I said before, the location is time sensitive.

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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:48:09 -0400

I can't remember where I found it but I do remember reading that the way to 
record locations from a census from all the various ones  listed is to use 
Civil Parish, County.
Cathy
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What would be the proper entry in Legacy in the following case?

If a census listing shows Aspull, Lancashire, England
and Civil parish: Aspull
Ecclesiastical parish: Aspull
Town: Aspull
County: Lancashire
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Toni Sano]

I can't remember where I found it but I do remember reading that the way to 
record locations from a census from all the various ones  listed is to use 
Civil Parish, County.  
Cathy
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What would be the proper entry in Legacy in the following case?

If a census listing shows Aspull, Lancashire, England
and Civil parish: Aspull
Ecclesiastical parish: Aspull
Town: Aspull
County: Lancashire
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull 


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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[John Carter]

Considering the changes some US counties have gone through in a litte over 200 
years, 
such that you may need a county map for each census year to determine whether 
someone 
moved to a new location or just stayed in place and the county line moved 
around them, I 
can only imagine how complex place identification gets in 5 times that many 
years ;-)

I haven't encountered the UK place name changes yet - still working my way back 
to the 
port of entry on most of our family lines (from the surnames, mostly English, 
Irish, Scots).   
Tenant farmers are much harder to trace than landowners; the small, often non-
denominational churches they attended followed the fortunes of the area - 
coming and going 
with the success of the crops and sometimes dwindling away to nothing with 
subsequent 
loss of records.

John


On 3 Nov 2007 at 12:02, ronald ferguson wrote:

> 
> Bob, 
> 
> I would recommend a look at 
> http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm which gives a history of 
> the development of parishes, hundreds, wapentakes, districts (both urban and 
> rural), counties and many other changes which we have had to endure over a 
> 1000 years or so! (not that I was there for all of them :-) ).
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Bob Withers]

Ron,

This is awesome.  Thanks!

Bob

On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:02 AM, ronald ferguson wrote:



Bob,

I would recommend a look at http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/ 
counties.htm which gives a history of the development of parishes,  
hundreds, wapentakes, districts (both urban and rural), counties  
and many other changes which we have had to endure over a 1000  
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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[ronald ferguson]

Bob, 

I would recommend a look at 
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm which gives a history of 
the development of parishes, hundreds, wapentakes, districts (both urban and 
rural), counties and many other changes which we have had to endure over a 1000 
years or so! (not that I was there for all of them :-) ).

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:40:14 -0500
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Ron,
>
> I didn't ask the question but this has been very helpful to me. Do
> you know of any web resources that go into more detail on this subject?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 6:43 PM, ronald ferguson wrote:
>
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> I take it that you are asking for the address. This would be
>> Aspull, Wigan, Lancashire, England. In common with many of our
>> locations it does not fit the "standard"
>>
>> At one time the Ecclesiastical parishes were the only parishes but
>> gradually were replaced by civil parishes, districts or other
>> developments of local government, such that today there is no
>> connection between ecclesiastical parishes and civil parishes -
>> even if they have the same name. Again, registration districts need
>> not necessarily have any connection with the actual address/
>> location - indeed some registration districts have names which are
>> in different counties or do not appear on any maps at all!
>>
>> I do know the area to which you refer quite well and whilst the
>> above is it's current location it would not have had Wigan in it in
>> the past. In fact (just to confuse matters ) although it is in the
>> parish of Wigan it is in the hundred of Salford!
>>
>> However I would confirm the above as being correct but it would not
>> be incorrect to drop "Wigan" if you wish to try and "standardise"
>> with either GB or UK at the end (Ugh!)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Bob Withers]

Ron,

I didn't ask the question but this has been very helpful to me.  Do  
you know of any web resources that go into more detail on this subject?


Thanks,
Bob

On Nov 2, 2007, at 6:43 PM, ronald ferguson wrote:



Art,

I take it that you are asking for the address. This would be  
Aspull, Wigan, Lancashire, England. In common with many of our  
locations it does not fit the "standard"


At one time the Ecclesiastical parishes were the only parishes but  
gradually were replaced by civil parishes, districts or other  
developments of local government, such that today there is no  
connection between ecclesiastical parishes and civil parishes -  
even if they have the same name. Again, registration districts need  
not necessarily have any connection with the actual address/ 
location - indeed some registration districts have names which are  
in different counties or do not appear on any maps at all!


I do know the area to which you refer quite well and whilst the  
above is it's current location it would not have had Wigan in it in  
the past. In fact (just to confuse matters ) although it is in the  
parish of Wigan it is in the hundred of Salford!


However I would confirm the above as being correct but it would not  
be incorrect to drop "Wigan" if you wish to try and "standardise"  
with either GB or UK at the end (Ugh!)







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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[ronald ferguson]

Art,

I take it that you are asking for the address. This would be Aspull, Wigan, 
Lancashire, England. In common with many of our locations it does not fit the 
"standard"

At one time the Ecclesiastical parishes were the only parishes but gradually 
were replaced by civil parishes, districts or other developments of local 
government, such that today there is no connection between ecclesiastical 
parishes and civil parishes - even if they have the same name. Again, 
registration districts need not necessarily have any connection with the actual 
address/location - indeed some registration districts have names which are in 
different counties or do not appear on any maps at all!

I do know the area to which you refer quite well and whilst the above is it's 
current location it would not have had Wigan in it in the past. In fact (just 
to confuse matters ) although it is in the parish of Wigan it is in the hundred 
of Salford!

However I would confirm the above as being correct but it would not be 
incorrect to drop "Wigan" if you wish to try and "standardise" with either GB 
or UK at the end (Ugh!)

Ron Ferguson


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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:52:31 -0700

What would be the proper entry in Legacy in the following case?

If a census listing shows Aspull, Lancashire, England
and Civil parish: Aspull
Ecclesiastical parish: Aspull
Town: Aspull
County: Lancashire
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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  What would be the proper entry in Legacy in the following case?

  If a census listing shows Aspull, Lancashire, England
  and Civil parish: Aspull
  Ecclesiastical parish: Aspull
  Town: Aspull
  County: Lancashire
  Registration district: Wigan
  Sub-registration district: Aspull 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Thanks, Jenny!

John

John Zimmerman
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Jenny M Benson wrote:

hwedhlor wrote
Incidentally, referring to your example of the Lancashire location, 
my previous genealogy program, Ancestral Quest, would have dealt with 
that issue simply by searching on all entries like the one with the 
shortened version of Lancashire, and replacing them with the 
preferred version.  Does Legacy have a similar capability.


Yes, it does!  But if you had used Search and Replace on the Tools 
menu to replace all instances of "Liverpool, Lancs, England" with 
"Liverpool, Lancashire, England" and you already had a location of 
"Liverpool, Lancashire, England" you would then have TWO locations the 
same and would need to do the Combine operation!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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  I think this is a wake up call to include Source
  photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
  current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
  source and an individual or two. For the present, I
  have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
  perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
  situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
  depending on quantity.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[aseddon.com]

The idea of a choice sounds great to me. 
Choose linked media or all media in Legacy sub-folders.

Art Seddon


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Hi Richard,

I'm glad that this exchange of information made clear to us all what the 
multimedia backup in Legacy actually accomplishes.

Although I initially expected Legacy to back up _all_ multimedia files, 
I like this format better, where only the linked images are backed up.  
If there were a move to change that format I would hope that there would 
also be a switch to make it optional.

John,

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[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I knew mine were, but was miniterpreting what was
beding requested for. 
Rich in LA CA
--- Mary Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Richard
> Source pictures *are* attached to the database and
> *are* part of the
> Multimedia backup.
> I created a family file of one person with one
> source, and attached
> one picture to the source. The Multimedia backup zip
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> picture.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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hwedhlor wrote
Incidentally, referring to your example of the Lancashire location, my 
previous genealogy program, Ancestral Quest, would have dealt with that 
issue simply by searching on all entries like the one with the 
shortened version of Lancashire, and replacing them with the preferred 
version.  Does Legacy have a similar capability.


Yes, it does!  But if you had used Search and Replace on the Tools menu 
to replace all instances of "Liverpool, Lancs, England" with "Liverpool, 
Lancashire, England" and you already had a location of "Liverpool, 
Lancashire, England" you would then have TWO locations the same and 
would need to do the Combine operation!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Cathy]

Hi John,

With pictures that are attached to Legacy, whether you move them to 
different folder(s) or you unzip someone else's pics and put them in 
a different folders, pictures that are attached within a family file 
can be found by using the Test Multimedia Paths button in Options > 
Customise when that family file is open.


When Legacy reports that it can't find a pic, browse to the right 
folder and find the pic (I find this much quicker than letting Legacy 
search my hard drive(s) - especially since I often have archive 
copies with the same name elsewhere on the drive), Legacy will then 
find all the other associated pics that are in that folder. That is, 
you only have to do it once for each folder.


If the folder is already in your list of Multimedia Locations, I 
don't think you have to do it at all.


So if your sister has associated a pic with a person and you've 
merged her file with yours (Do you Intellishare merge? One of you 
needs to keep the Master file to do this and send a new file to the 
other person before they make more changes)


The other way - especially if you continue to keep the pics in 
different file structures - is to get a list of those modified after 
a particular date, tag them and export that list to a new Legacy file 
- so you're only merging people who have been changed.


Cathy

At 06:15 AM 27/08/2007, you wrote:


Hi Jenny,

Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option 
functions, that might be useful to those of us who exchange 
multimedia backups, as such an association might allow us to link 
those new files with relative ease.
Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I 
created a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in 
folders without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from 
another drive than the one containing the multimedia backup, are 
listed separately.
For example, the images I linked from the drive on which Legacy is 
installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main folder.
The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder 
titled "Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that 
Graphics folder is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and 
the root folder are stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder 
are two additional folders named as they were on that other drive, 
and under that are the linked files.


My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's 
computer to make them available to my database, can I use the 
"Combine" feature we've been discussing to link all those added 
images?  I don't know the answer to that one yet.  My tendency would 
be to place those added images in folders where I normally store 
such things, then link them to the appropriate events if the Legacy 
data backup did not include the original links.  I haven't 
experimented enough to know whether linking paths come with data 
backup files.  Do you know the answer to that?


Incidentally, referring to your example of the Lancashire location, 
my previous genealogy program, Ancestral Quest, would have dealt 
with that issue simply by searching on all entries like the one with 
the shortened version of Lancashire, and replacing them with the 
preferred version.

Does Legacy have a similar capability.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Mike,

Thank you very much for that clear explanation.  Knowing that will make 
using Legacy that much more enjoyable.


John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona


Mike Fry wrote:

hwedhlor wrote:

Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option 
functions, that might be useful to those of us who exchange 
multimedia backups, as such an association might allow us to link 
those new files with relative ease.
Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I 
created a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in 
folders without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from 
another drive than the one containing the multimedia backup, are 
listed separately.  For example, the images I linked from the drive 
on which Legacy is installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main 
folder.
The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder 
titled "Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that 
Graphics folder is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and 
the root folder are stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder 
are two additional folders named as they were on that other drive, 
and under that are the linked files.


My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's 
computer to make them available to my database, can I use the 
"Combine" feature we've been discussing to link all those added 
images?  I don't know the answer to that one yet.  My tendency would 
be to place those added images in folders where I normally store such 
things, then link them to the appropriate events if the Legacy data 
backup did not include the original links.  I haven't experimented 
enough to know whether linking paths come with data backup files.  Do 
you know the answer to that?


John,
To answer your question about a 'Combine' feature for image files: 
it's already there! If you were to unzip a file of images into an area 
of your file system that was not currently referenced by Legacy, then, 
if you add the path to the 'root' of the images into the Legacy images 
paths, access is made.


This is particularly useful when data you have imported from elsewhere 
uses a storage for images that is different to yours. When you try to 
access one of the 'new' images that Legacy doesn't yet know about, 
Legacy will have a little moan and ask you where the image is stored. 
Simply locate the file and Legacy will automatically add the path to 
its' list of paths. The program should, thereafter find the rest of 
the missing images on its own.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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- Mensaje original 
De: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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- Mensaje original 
De: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:30:34
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


Richard
Source pictures *are* attached to the database and *are* part of the
Multimedia backup.
I created a family file of one person with one source, and attached
one picture to the source. The Multimedia backup zip file contains the
picture.
-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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- Mensaje original 
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Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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- Mensaje original 
De: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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- Mensaje original 
De: hwedhlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:15:14
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


Hi Jenny,

Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option functions, 
that might be useful to those of us who exchange multimedia backups, as 
such an association might allow us to link those new files with relative 
ease. 

Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I created 
a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in folders 
without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from another drive 
than the one containing the multimedia backup, are listed separately.  
For example, the images I linked from the drive on which Legacy is 
installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main folder. 

The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder titled 
"Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that Graphics folder 
is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and the root folder are 
stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder are two additional 
folders named as they were on that other drive, and under that are the 
linked files.

My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's computer 
to make them available to my database, can I use the "Combine" feature 
we've been discussing to link all those added images?  I don't know the 
answer to that one yet.  My tendency would be to place those added 
images in folders where I normally store such things, then link them to 
the appropriate events if the Legacy data backup did not include the 
original links.  I haven't experimented enough to know whether linking 
paths come with data backup files.  Do you know the answer to that?

Incidentally, referring to your example of the Lancashire location, my 
previous genealogy program, Ancestral Quest, would have dealt with that 
issue simply by searching on all entries like the one with the shortened 
version of Lancashire, and replacing them with the preferred version.  
Does Legacy have a similar capability.

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona


Jenny M Benson wrote:
> hwedhlor wrote
>> In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to 
>> "Combine the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have 
>> tried what I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries 
>> possible No combination has resulted in any variation in what is 
>> saved in the resulting backup files.
>
> I haven't used this command in relation to pictures, but elsewhere in 
> Legacy the option to "Combine ... with another ..." means that the two 
> paths or locations become one and everything which was associated with 
> "the other one" becomes associated with the single path or location 
> which is retained.
>
> That sounds very complex so I will give an example to clarify it. 
> Suppose you have a location of "Liverpool, Lancs, England" which is 
> associated with 3 people in your family file and you have 10 people 
> associated with the location of "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."  If 
> you highlight the first location, click on the "Combine ..." button, 
> then highlight the second location and lick the button again, you will 
> remove the first location containing Lancs and all 13 people will be 
> associated with the location "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."
>
> I *imagine* that you would use the "Combine paths" option if you have 
> moved pictures from one folder to another and now want to have Legacy 
> use only one of those paths to locate all the pictures that were 
> spread between two folders.


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Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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- Mensaje original 
De: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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- Mensaje original 
De: hwedhlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:34:48
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


Hi Richard,

I'm glad that this exchange of information made clear to us all what the 
multimedia backup in Legacy actually accomplishes.

Although I initially expected Legacy to back up _all_ multimedia files, 
I like this format better, where only the linked images are backed up.  
If there were a move to change that format I would hope that there would 
also be a switch to make it optional.

John,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> I think this is a wake up call to include Source
> photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
> current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
> source and an individual or two. For the present, I
> have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
> perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
> situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
> depending on quantity.
> Rich in LA CA
> --- "aseddon.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:30:34
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


Richard
Source pictures *are* attached to the database and *are* part of the
Multimedia backup.
I created a family file of one person with one source, and attached
one picture to the source. The Multimedia backup zip file contains the
picture.
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Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:47:51
Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


hwedhlor wrote:

> Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option functions, 
> that might be useful to those of us who exchange multimedia backups, as 
> such an association might allow us to link those new files with relative 
> ease.
> Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
> another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I created 
> a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in folders 
> without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from another drive 
> than the one containing the multimedia backup, are listed separately.  
> For example, the images I linked from the drive on which Legacy is 
> installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main folder.
> The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder titled 
> "Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that Graphics folder 
> is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and the root folder are 
> stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder are two additional 
> folders named as they were on that other drive, and under that are the 
> linked files.
> 
> My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's computer 
> to make them available to my database, can I use the "Combine" feature 
> we've been discussing to link all those added images?  I don't know the 
> answer to that one yet.  My tendency would be to place those added 
> images in folders where I normally store such things, then link them to 
> the appropriate events if the Legacy data backup did not include the 
> original links.  I haven't experimented enough to know whether linking 
> paths come with data backup files.  Do you know the answer to that?

John,
To answer your question about a 'Combine' feature for image files: it's 
already there! If you were to unzip a file of images into an area of 
your file system that was not currently referenced by Legacy, then, if 
you add the path to the 'root' of the images into the Legacy images 
paths, access is made.

This is particularly useful when data you have imported from elsewhere 
uses a storage for images that is different to yours. When you try to 
access one of the 'new' images that Legacy doesn't yet know about, 
Legacy will have a little moan and ask you where the image is stored. 
Simply locate the file and Legacy will automatically add the path to 
its' list of paths. The program should, thereafter find the rest of the 
missing images on its own.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Mike Fry]

hwedhlor wrote:

Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option functions, 
that might be useful to those of us who exchange multimedia backups, as 
such an association might allow us to link those new files with relative 
ease.
Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I created 
a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in folders 
without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from another drive 
than the one containing the multimedia backup, are listed separately.  
For example, the images I linked from the drive on which Legacy is 
installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main folder.
The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder titled 
"Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that Graphics folder 
is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and the root folder are 
stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder are two additional 
folders named as they were on that other drive, and under that are the 
linked files.


My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's computer 
to make them available to my database, can I use the "Combine" feature 
we've been discussing to link all those added images?  I don't know the 
answer to that one yet.  My tendency would be to place those added 
images in folders where I normally store such things, then link them to 
the appropriate events if the Legacy data backup did not include the 
original links.  I haven't experimented enough to know whether linking 
paths come with data backup files.  Do you know the answer to that?


John,
To answer your question about a 'Combine' feature for image files: it's 
already there! If you were to unzip a file of images into an area of 
your file system that was not currently referenced by Legacy, then, if 
you add the path to the 'root' of the images into the Legacy images 
paths, access is made.


This is particularly useful when data you have imported from elsewhere 
uses a storage for images that is different to yours. When you try to 
access one of the 'new' images that Legacy doesn't yet know about, 
Legacy will have a little moan and ask you where the image is stored. 
Simply locate the file and Legacy will automatically add the path to 
its' list of paths. The program should, thereafter find the rest of the 
missing images on its own.


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Hi Richard,

I'm glad that this exchange of information made clear to us all what the 
multimedia backup in Legacy actually accomplishes.


Although I initially expected Legacy to back up _all_ multimedia files, 
I like this format better, where only the linked images are backed up.  
If there were a move to change that format I would hope that there would 
also be a switch to make it optional.


John,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Mary Young]

Richard
Source pictures *are* attached to the database and *are* part of the
Multimedia backup.
I created a family file of one person with one source, and attached
one picture to the source. The Multimedia backup zip file contains the
picture.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Hi Jenny,

Assuming that your supposition about how the "Combine" option functions, 
that might be useful to those of us who exchange multimedia backups, as 
such an association might allow us to link those new files with relative 
ease. 

Experimenting with that issue, I linked some files from folders in 
another drive on my system, to events in my own record.  Then I created 
a multimedia backup.  I find that the files are listed in folders 
without the drive letters.  Those folders that are from another drive 
than the one containing the multimedia backup, are listed separately.  
For example, the images I linked from the drive on which Legacy is 
installed, are all in folders under a Legacy main folder. 

The files from other drives are in (in this case) a main folder titled 
"Graphics" though they came from a drive on which that Graphics folder 
is a sub-folder of the root.  The drive letter, and the root folder are 
stripped away.  Under that main Graphics folder are two additional 
folders named as they were on that other drive, and under that are the 
linked files.


My next question is if I unzip the backups from someone else's computer 
to make them available to my database, can I use the "Combine" feature 
we've been discussing to link all those added images?  I don't know the 
answer to that one yet.  My tendency would be to place those added 
images in folders where I normally store such things, then link them to 
the appropriate events if the Legacy data backup did not include the 
original links.  I haven't experimented enough to know whether linking 
paths come with data backup files.  Do you know the answer to that?


Incidentally, referring to your example of the Lancashire location, my 
previous genealogy program, Ancestral Quest, would have dealt with that 
issue simply by searching on all entries like the one with the shortened 
version of Lancashire, and replacing them with the preferred version.  
Does Legacy have a similar capability.


John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona


Jenny M Benson wrote:

hwedhlor wrote
In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to 
"Combine the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have 
tried what I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries 
possible No combination has resulted in any variation in what is 
saved in the resulting backup files.


I haven't used this command in relation to pictures, but elsewhere in 
Legacy the option to "Combine ... with another ..." means that the two 
paths or locations become one and everything which was associated with 
"the other one" becomes associated with the single path or location 
which is retained.


That sounds very complex so I will give an example to clarify it. 
Suppose you have a location of "Liverpool, Lancs, England" which is 
associated with 3 people in your family file and you have 10 people 
associated with the location of "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."  If 
you highlight the first location, click on the "Combine ..." button, 
then highlight the second location and lick the button again, you will 
remove the first location containing Lancs and all 13 people will be 
associated with the location "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."


I *imagine* that you would use the "Combine paths" option if you have 
moved pictures from one folder to another and now want to have Legacy 
use only one of those paths to locate all the pictures that were 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I think this is a wake up call to include Source
photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
source and an individual or two. For the present, I
have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
depending on quantity.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Heather,

Thank you for your thoughts on this issue.  I believe that you are 
correct in that philosophy, and it makes good sense. 


John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Heather Stovold wrote:
I think it is more a case that because you CAN have pictures anywhere, 
Legacy only recognizes it as a picture having to do with your 
genealogy if you have used it in your legacy file   that might be 
important too if you have more than one legacy database!   My mom 
would be upset if I sent pictures of her ancestors to my dad so I 
would only want it to "backup" multimedia that is linked to HIS 
database when I send info.
 



 
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> wrote:


Hi John
 
I just extracted the files from my latest Media back-up and what I

seem to find is that Legacy ONLY backs up the files that have been
connected to a person. I have many graphics that I have scanned
and census images downloaded etc. that have not yet been attached
and they are not backed up.
 
I guess if you haven't attached them yet Legacy figures that they

are not important to have if you have a crash and have to restore.
Don't make sense to me.
 
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Everett, WA.
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

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One wonders why Legacy would have a 'Picture Folder', say that you are backing 
up your MM files and not back up the files in the 'Picture Folder' included in 
Legacy.

Seems dumb to me
Art Seddon
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  From: hwedhlor 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )


  Hi Art,

  Your supposition is correct, in that Legacy doe only backup files that 
  are linked to the database.

  That is both a blessing and a curse.  From a Millennia programmer's 
  point of view it makes perfect sense.  If an end-user has thousands of 
  image files in various folders (and I do), only those actually used in 
  Legacy have meaning to that program.  That makes good sense to me as 
  well, in that I don't wish to send all of my image files to my sister as 
  she only needs those that must show up in Legacy.

   From the point of view of an end-user who expected a complete folder 
  backup, that may be disappointing, but for myself, I use other backups 
  for the mass of data I keep, so it's a minor point.

  Where I still have reservations is the area of receiving a backup 
  multimedia file from someone else, and having to sort out where to put 
  all those image files that may be in separate folders say by surname, or 
  even separate folders for each individual!  That's how my sister stores 
  her image files, and I can see that I'll have a big job getting them all 
  entered into my system, as those individual folders don't exist on my 
  system.  I will have to copy the files to the appropriate storage 
  location of my own, trusting that the filenames will tell me what they 
  are.  Since we have a standard convention for naming files, that 
  shouldn't be a problem, but I'll still have to re-link each file by 
  making the appropriate entries in Legacy for sources and events.

  John

  John Zimmerman
  Mesa, Arizona

  aseddon.com wrote:
  > Hi John
  >  
  > I just extracted the files from my latest Media back-up and what I 
  > seem to find is that Legacy ONLY backs up the files that have been 
  > connected to a person. I have many graphics that I have scanned and 
  > census images downloaded etc. that have not yet been attached and they 
  > are not backed up.
  >  
  > I guess if you haven't attached them yet Legacy figures that they are 
  > not important to have if you have a crash and have to restore. Don't 
  > make sense to me.
  >  
  > Art Seddon
  > Everett, WA.
  >  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Hi Art,

Your supposition is correct, in that Legacy doe only backup files that 
are linked to the database.


That is both a blessing and a curse.  From a Millennia programmer's 
point of view it makes perfect sense.  If an end-user has thousands of 
image files in various folders (and I do), only those actually used in 
Legacy have meaning to that program.  That makes good sense to me as 
well, in that I don't wish to send all of my image files to my sister as 
she only needs those that must show up in Legacy.


From the point of view of an end-user who expected a complete folder 
backup, that may be disappointing, but for myself, I use other backups 
for the mass of data I keep, so it's a minor point.


Where I still have reservations is the area of receiving a backup 
multimedia file from someone else, and having to sort out where to put 
all those image files that may be in separate folders say by surname, or 
even separate folders for each individual!  That's how my sister stores 
her image files, and I can see that I'll have a big job getting them all 
entered into my system, as those individual folders don't exist on my 
system.  I will have to copy the files to the appropriate storage 
location of my own, trusting that the filenames will tell me what they 
are.  Since we have a standard convention for naming files, that 
shouldn't be a problem, but I'll still have to re-link each file by 
making the appropriate entries in Legacy for sources and events.


John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

aseddon.com wrote:

Hi John
 
I just extracted the files from my latest Media back-up and what I 
seem to find is that Legacy ONLY backs up the files that have been 
connected to a person. I have many graphics that I have scanned and 
census images downloaded etc. that have not yet been attached and they 
are not backed up.
 
I guess if you haven't attached them yet Legacy figures that they are 
not important to have if you have a crash and have to restore. Don't 
make sense to me.
 
Art Seddon

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Jenny M Benson]

hwedhlor wrote
In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to "Combine 
the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have tried what 
I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries possible 
No combination has resulted in any variation in what is saved in the 
resulting backup files.


I haven't used this command in relation to pictures, but elsewhere in 
Legacy the option to "Combine ... with another ..." means that the two 
paths or locations become one and everything which was associated with 
"the other one" becomes associated with the single path or location 
which is retained.


That sounds very complex so I will give an example to clarify it. 
Suppose you have a location of "Liverpool, Lancs, England" which is 
associated with 3 people in your family file and you have 10 people 
associated with the location of "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."  If 
you highlight the first location, click on the "Combine ..." button, 
then highlight the second location and lick the button again, you will 
remove the first location containing Lancs and all 13 people will be 
associated with the location "Liverpool, Lancashire, England."


I *imagine* that you would use the "Combine paths" option if you have 
moved pictures from one folder to another and now want to have Legacy 
use only one of those paths to locate all the pictures that were spread 
between two folders.

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Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Heather Stovold]

I think it is more a case that because you CAN have pictures anywhere,
Legacy only recognizes it as a picture having to do with your genealogy if
you have used it in your legacy file   that might be important too if
you have more than one legacy database!   My mom would be upset if I sent
pictures of her ancestors to my dad so I would only want it to "backup"
multimedia that is linked to HIS database when I send info.




On 8/26/07, aseddon.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi John
>
> I just extracted the files from my latest Media back-up and what I seem to
> find is that Legacy ONLY backs up the files that have been connected to a
> person. I have many graphics that I have scanned and census images
> downloaded etc. that have not yet been attached and they are not backed up.
>
> I guess if you haven't attached them yet Legacy figures that they are not
> important to have if you have a crash and have to restore. Don't make sense
> to me.
>
> Art Seddon
> Everett, WA.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Hi Clancy,

That is an excellent point, and I confirmed that premise with a simple 
test.


I do regular backups of my drives as a matter of course, but was 
concerned that Legacy apparently was missing things.  Your information 
has restored my faith in Legacy's backup capability, and will give my 
sister considerable peace of mind. 


Thank you very much! 


John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Clancy wrote:

Hi John;
I think you will find that Legacy backs up only items that are linked to the
current database you are viewing.
If all things in a folder are not linked, then you will not get everything
backed up.
You might want to back up the total picture folder yourself to include
everything that is contained, linked or not.

Clancy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hwedhlor
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

Hi Mary,

Thank you very much for your input on this issue.  I had real hope that
the information you provided would lead to a complete backup of my image
files, but alas, that was not to be.

In the hope that someone from Millennia will read this and provide
clarification on what I am doing wrong, here is how I have my image
files stored:

I:\Legacy\Pictures - images of individuals (only one person per image)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - images of documents (certificates, census, etc.)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - images of groups (more than one person in a
photo)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - contains images of places & things
(buildings, cars, objects, etc.)

I expected that the command "Files/Backup Multimedia files" would backup
all of the files in each of those folders listed above.

What actually happened was:

I:\Legacy - the backup stores "iv.jpg"

I:\Legacy\Pictures - backup contained all JPG and BMP images plus the
folder "docs"

Missed wee all TIF and PCX files, and the folders "groups" and "places"

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - backup contained one JPG and one PDF file

Missed wee 52 additional JPG files, 14 TIF files, and 6 PDF files

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - not contained in the backup

I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - not contained in the backup

In the Options/Customize/View Current List of Multimedia Locations popup
screen I have the following lines:

I:\Legacy\Pictures\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\places\

In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to "Combine
the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have tried what
I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries possible   No
combination has resulted in any variation in what is saved in the
resulting backup files.

I have examined in great detail the file that pops up when I click on
"Help" in the context of these attempts, but have found no information
there that explains the intention of "Combine the highlighted path with
another one on the list..."

The 399 page Legacy 6.0 manual apparently contains no entries pertaining
to backups of pictures.  I found no reference to how the "Backup
Multimedia Files" process works, or how to accomplish what I desire.

If the option to enter the intended backup path as
"I:\Legacy\Pictures\*.*" that would greatly simplify my particular
need.  I have no idea how Legacy 6.0 could accomplish backups of image
files that are scattered around a variety of drives and folder.

I have worked with computers since 1964, as an operator, programmer,
maintainer and instructor.  In 40 years of genealogical research I have
used a number of database programs, and reached some considerable degree
of expertise in some of them.  I have been a beta tester for several
firms for over 30 years, and have been a technical writer for much of my
life, but the process of accomplishing what should be a simple backup of
files from within Legacy 6.0 continues to elude me.

Admittedly I am a newcomer to Legacy, and as such must plead ignorance
of some of the finer points of its use, but the backup process should be
straight forward, as it is fundamental to the protection of our efforts.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could clarify this process
for me.  I would also appreciate an explanation of the file-types
contained in Legacy operation and backup files.

Thanks,

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Mary Young wrote:
  

Hi, John
I am no expert on this  and my system is simple - here's my setup



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/scottishagate/ScreenHunter_002-3.jpg
  

C:\Legacy\Pictures\subfolders hold my pictures, and C:\Legacy\Sounds.
contains many text documents. Everything is included in the Multimedia
backup.
Sometimes I transfer my database to a thumb drive, hence the second
set of locations.
Try checking Options>Customise&

Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[aseddon.com]

Hi John

I just extracted the files from my latest Media back-up and what I seem to find 
is that Legacy ONLY backs up the files that have been connected to a person. I 
have many graphics that I have scanned and census images downloaded etc. that 
have not yet been attached and they are not backed up.

I guess if you haven't attached them yet Legacy figures that they are not 
important to have if you have a crash and have to restore. Don't make sense to 
me.

Art Seddon
Everett, WA.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Clancy]

Hi John;
I think you will find that Legacy backs up only items that are linked to the
current database you are viewing.
If all things in a folder are not linked, then you will not get everything
backed up.
You might want to back up the total picture folder yourself to include
everything that is contained, linked or not.

Clancy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hwedhlor
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

Hi Mary,

Thank you very much for your input on this issue.  I had real hope that
the information you provided would lead to a complete backup of my image
files, but alas, that was not to be.

In the hope that someone from Millennia will read this and provide
clarification on what I am doing wrong, here is how I have my image
files stored:

I:\Legacy\Pictures - images of individuals (only one person per image)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - images of documents (certificates, census, etc.)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - images of groups (more than one person in a
photo)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - contains images of places & things
(buildings, cars, objects, etc.)

I expected that the command "Files/Backup Multimedia files" would backup
all of the files in each of those folders listed above.

What actually happened was:

I:\Legacy - the backup stores "iv.jpg"

I:\Legacy\Pictures - backup contained all JPG and BMP images plus the
folder "docs"

Missed wee all TIF and PCX files, and the folders "groups" and "places"

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - backup contained one JPG and one PDF file

Missed wee 52 additional JPG files, 14 TIF files, and 6 PDF files

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - not contained in the backup

I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - not contained in the backup

In the Options/Customize/View Current List of Multimedia Locations popup
screen I have the following lines:

I:\Legacy\Pictures\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\places\

In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to "Combine
the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have tried what
I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries possible   No
combination has resulted in any variation in what is saved in the
resulting backup files.

I have examined in great detail the file that pops up when I click on
"Help" in the context of these attempts, but have found no information
there that explains the intention of "Combine the highlighted path with
another one on the list..."

The 399 page Legacy 6.0 manual apparently contains no entries pertaining
to backups of pictures.  I found no reference to how the "Backup
Multimedia Files" process works, or how to accomplish what I desire.

If the option to enter the intended backup path as
"I:\Legacy\Pictures\*.*" that would greatly simplify my particular
need.  I have no idea how Legacy 6.0 could accomplish backups of image
files that are scattered around a variety of drives and folder.

I have worked with computers since 1964, as an operator, programmer,
maintainer and instructor.  In 40 years of genealogical research I have
used a number of database programs, and reached some considerable degree
of expertise in some of them.  I have been a beta tester for several
firms for over 30 years, and have been a technical writer for much of my
life, but the process of accomplishing what should be a simple backup of
files from within Legacy 6.0 continues to elude me.

Admittedly I am a newcomer to Legacy, and as such must plead ignorance
of some of the finer points of its use, but the backup process should be
straight forward, as it is fundamental to the protection of our efforts.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could clarify this process
for me.  I would also appreciate an explanation of the file-types
contained in Legacy operation and backup files.

Thanks,

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Mary Young wrote:
> Hi, John
> I am no expert on this  and my system is simple - here's my setup
>
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/scottishagate/ScreenHunter_002-3.jpg
> C:\Legacy\Pictures\subfolders hold my pictures, and C:\Legacy\Sounds.
> contains many text documents. Everything is included in the Multimedia
> backup.
> Sometimes I transfer my database to a thumb drive, hence the second
> set of locations.
> Try checking Options>Customise>Locations>View Current List of
> Multimedia Locations and (on same screen) Test All Multimedia Paths.
> And the Help File Index under   Picture:Locations.
> Hope this helps.
> Mary Young
>
>
> On 8/26/07, hwedhlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Mary,
>>
>> That's not what I have found.  Perhaps I have something set in

Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[hwedhlor]

Hi Mary,

Thank you very much for your input on this issue.  I had real hope that 
the information you provided would lead to a complete backup of my image 
files, but alas, that was not to be.


In the hope that someone from Millennia will read this and provide 
clarification on what I am doing wrong, here is how I have my image 
files stored:


I:\Legacy\Pictures - images of individuals (only one person per image)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - images of documents (certificates, census, etc.)

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - images of groups (more than one person in a 
photo)


I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - contains images of places & things 
(buildings, cars, objects, etc.)


I expected that the command "Files/Backup Multimedia files" would backup 
all of the files in each of those folders listed above.


What actually happened was:

I:\Legacy - the backup stores "iv.jpg"

I:\Legacy\Pictures - backup contained all JPG and BMP images plus the 
folder "docs"


   Missed wee all TIF and PCX files, and the folders "groups" and "places"

I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs - backup contained one JPG and one PDF file

   Missed wee 52 additional JPG files, 14 TIF files, and 6 PDF files

I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups - not contained in the backup

I:\Legacy\Pictures\places - not contained in the backup

In the Options/Customize/View Current List of Multimedia Locations popup 
screen I have the following lines:


I:\Legacy\Pictures\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\docs\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\groups\
I:\Legacy\Pictures\places\

In an attempt to follow the (I believe) cryptic invitation to "Combine 
the highlighted path with another one in the list..." I have tried what 
I believe to be all combinations of selections and entries possible   No 
combination has resulted in any variation in what is saved in the 
resulting backup files.


I have examined in great detail the file that pops up when I click on 
"Help" in the context of these attempts, but have found no information 
there that explains the intention of "Combine the highlighted path with 
another one on the list..." 

The 399 page Legacy 6.0 manual apparently contains no entries pertaining 
to backups of pictures.  I found no reference to how the "Backup 
Multimedia Files" process works, or how to accomplish what I desire.


If the option to enter the intended backup path as 
"I:\Legacy\Pictures\*.*" that would greatly simplify my particular 
need.  I have no idea how Legacy 6.0 could accomplish backups of image 
files that are scattered around a variety of drives and folder.


I have worked with computers since 1964, as an operator, programmer, 
maintainer and instructor.  In 40 years of genealogical research I have 
used a number of database programs, and reached some considerable degree 
of expertise in some of them.  I have been a beta tester for several 
firms for over 30 years, and have been a technical writer for much of my 
life, but the process of accomplishing what should be a simple backup of 
files from within Legacy 6.0 continues to elude me.


Admittedly I am a newcomer to Legacy, and as such must plead ignorance 
of some of the finer points of its use, but the backup process should be 
straight forward, as it is fundamental to the protection of our efforts. 

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could clarify this process 
for me.  I would also appreciate an explanation of the file-types 
contained in Legacy operation and backup files.


Thanks,

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Mary Young wrote:

Hi, John
I am no expert on this  and my system is simple - here's my setup
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/scottishagate/ScreenHunter_002-3.jpg
C:\Legacy\Pictures\subfolders hold my pictures, and C:\Legacy\Sounds.
contains many text documents. Everything is included in the Multimedia
backup.
Sometimes I transfer my database to a thumb drive, hence the second
set of locations.
Try checking Options>Customise>Locations>View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and (on same screen) Test All Multimedia Paths.
And the Help File Index under   Picture:Locations.
Hope this helps.
Mary Young


On 8/26/07, hwedhlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi, Mary,

That's not what I have found.  Perhaps I have something set incorrectly,
but my Legacy Multimedia backup included only what was in the
Legacy\Pictures folder.

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, Arizona

Mary Young wrote:


AFAIK, a Legacy Multimedia backup includes every photograph and
document attached to your Legacy database, not just in  "the Primary
Picture folder and no sub-folders".
Regards,
Mary
  




  



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[LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

[Mary Young]

Hi, John
I am no expert on this  and my system is simple - here's my setup
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/scottishagate/ScreenHunter_002-3.jpg
C:\Legacy\Pictures\subfolders hold my pictures, and C:\Legacy\Sounds.
contains many text documents. Everything is included in the Multimedia
backup.
Sometimes I transfer my database to a thumb drive, hence the second
set of locations.
Try checking Options>Customise>Locations>View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and (on same screen) Test All Multimedia Paths.
And the Help File Index under   Picture:Locations.
Hope this helps.
Mary Young


On 8/26/07, hwedhlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Mary,
>
> That's not what I have found.  Perhaps I have something set incorrectly,
> but my Legacy Multimedia backup included only what was in the
> Legacy\Pictures folder.
>
> John
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, Arizona
>
> Mary Young wrote:
> > AFAIK, a Legacy Multimedia backup includes every photograph and
> > document attached to your Legacy database, not just in  "the Primary
> > Picture folder and no sub-folders".
> > Regards,
> > Mary


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