RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[ronald ferguson]

Now that is a totally different question Keith, and I do not recollect 
expressing an opinion. I think it boils down to personal choice, there are many 
aspects I like and I must admit the source writer system is growing on me. 
Nevertheless, as I indicated, I do use both.Ron Ferguson 
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Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:43:30 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7> > 
Thanks Robert and Ron -- just tried putting a new source (Ohio Deaths)> using 
source writer. The resulting source on an Individual report was> nearly 12 
lines! With a BASIC source - it is 2 and makes much more> sense. I continue to 
be unconvinced about the necessity for all of> that data. I believe what I use 
is enough for the original purpose of> a source -- that is helping other 
researchers to find my reasons for> the information I show. I think this should 
be enough...> > Ohio Department of Health, Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, 
and> 1958-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network,> 
Inc., 2006. (Ohio Department of Health. Index to Annual Deaths,> 1958-2002. 
Ohio Department of Health, State Vital Statistics Unit,> Columbus, OH, USA.) - 
Ancestry.com> > > In short - Is the SourceWriter format the best one??? I do 
not think it is> > Keith> > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Robert 
Carneal> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Keith- I am in the same boat as Ron. I 
have a mixture of the two sources,> > and have not experienced a problem yet.> 
>> > Robert> >> >> > At 2008-11-18 12:01 PM, you wrote:> >>> >> Keith.> >>> >> 
I have a mixture of the two and have yet to experience a problem> >>> >> Ron 
Ferguson> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:43 -0500> >> > 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >> > 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7> >> >> >> > Tim (or anyone else),> >> >> 
>> > You said:> >> > > First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL 
of my sources> >> > > to> >> > > convert them to the SourceWriter format. With 
tens of thousands of> >> > > citations, I would never get back to research if I 
solely concentrated> >> > > on> >> > > his. Rather, when I'm adding new 
sources, I always use the> >> > > SourceWriter. And> >> > > when I'm currently 
researching a family that has Basic Style> >> > > citations, I> >> > > work to 
convert those citations. A citation consists of both the> >> > > master> >> > > 
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now> >> >> >> > My 
question - It has been reported that MIXING Basic and Source Writer> >> > 
Sources results in strange results in REPORTS. There have been many> >> > 
changes since 7.0 first came out. Is this STILL a problem? Or has> >> > that 
part been resolved? I( have change NONE of my sources and am> >> > hesitating 
since I am satisfied with my reports. I do not want to> >> > mess them up!!> >> 
>> >> > Thanks> >> > Keith> >> >> >> > Legacy User Group guidelines: 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[GeoSci]

Thanks Robert and Ron -- just tried putting a new source (Ohio Deaths)
using source writer.  The resulting source on an Individual report was
nearly 12 lines!  With a BASIC source - it is 2 and makes much more
sense.  I continue to be unconvinced about the necessity for all of
that data.  I believe what I use is enough for the original purpose of
a source -- that is helping other researchers to find my reasons for
the information I show.  I think this should be enough...

Ohio Department of Health, Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and
1958-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network,
Inc., 2006. (Ohio Department of Health. Index to Annual Deaths,
1958-2002. Ohio Department of Health, State Vital Statistics Unit,
Columbus, OH, USA.) - Ancestry.com


In short - Is the SourceWriter format the best one???   I do not think it is

Keith


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Robert Carneal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keith-  I am in the same boat as Ron. I have a mixture of the two sources,
> and have not experienced a problem yet.
>
> Robert
>
>
> At 2008-11-18  12:01 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> Keith.
>>
>> I have a mixture of the two and have yet to experience a problem
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:43 -0500
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7
>> >
>> > Tim (or anyone else),
>> >
>> > You said:
>> > > First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources
>> > > to
>> > > convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
>> > > citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated
>> > > on
>> > > his. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the
>> > > SourceWriter. And
>> > > when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style
>> > > citations, I
>> > > work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the
>> > > master
>> > > source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>> >
>> > My question - It has been reported that MIXING Basic and Source Writer
>> > Sources results in strange results in REPORTS. There have been many
>> > changes since 7.0 first came out. Is this STILL a problem? Or has
>> > that part been resolved? I( have change NONE of my sources and am
>> > hesitating since I am satisfied with my reports. I do not want to
>> > mess them up!!
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Keith
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Robert Carneal]

Keith-  I am in the same boat as Ron. I have a mixture of the two 
sources, and have not experienced a problem yet.


Robert


At 2008-11-18  12:01 PM, you wrote:

Keith.

I have a mixture of the two and have yet to experience a problem

Ron Ferguson




> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:43 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7
>
> Tim (or anyone else),
>
> You said:
> > First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
> > convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
> > citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
> > his. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the 
SourceWriter. And

> > when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style citations, I
> > work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
> > source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>
> My question - It has been reported that MIXING Basic and Source Writer
> Sources results in strange results in REPORTS. There have been many
> changes since 7.0 first came out. Is this STILL a problem? Or has
> that part been resolved? I( have change NONE of my sources and am
> hesitating since I am satisfied with my reports. I do not want to
> mess them up!!
>
> Thanks
> Keith




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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[ronald ferguson]

Keith.
 
I have a mixture of the two and have yet to experience a problemRon Ferguson 
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_ > Date: 
Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:43 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7> > 
Tim (or anyone else),> > You said:> > First of all, I personally am NOT going 
back through ALL of my sources to> > convert them to the SourceWriter format. 
With tens of thousands of> > citations, I would never get back to research if I 
solely concentrated on> > his. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always 
use the SourceWriter. And> > when I'm currently researching a family that has 
Basic Style citations, I> > work to convert those citations. A citation 
consists of both the master> > source and the source detail. Here is my process 
for now> > My question - It has been reported that MIXING Basic and Source 
Writer> Sources results in strange results in REPORTS. There have been many> 
changes since 7.0 first came out. Is this STILL a problem? Or has> that part 
been resolved? I( have change NONE of my sources and am> hesitating since I am 
satisfied with my reports. I do not want to> mess them up!!> > Thanks> Keith> > 
> -- > Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and 
Henry> > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64> EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[GeoSci]

Tim (or anyone else),

   You said:
> First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
> convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
> citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
> his. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter. And
> when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style citations, I
> work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
> source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

My question - It has been reported that MIXING Basic and Source Writer
Sources results in strange results in REPORTS.  There have been many
changes since 7.0 first came out.  Is this STILL a problem?  Or has
that part been resolved?  I( have change NONE of my sources and am
hesitating since I am satisfied with my reports.  I do not want to
mess them up!!

Thanks
Keith


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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Robert Carneal]

A reply from Millennia would be more "official," but I think 
Millennia might be forced to back off from that.  Upon investigating 
conversions, and realizing that we (we being legacy users) are often 
not consistent in sources, the conversion tools would misinterpret 
the old source when converting into a new source.


I, too, would love a feature such as the source conversion. But I 
would dislike anything that messed up my current sources! I think 
that is what Millennia is thinking.


If all of us were perfect consistent and formed sources alike, then 
it would be do-able. But we are all different.  I went ahead and 
converted my sources by hand, and I have 100s of sources. It took me 
about 18 - 19 weeks to convert 5,100 sources!  I made an effort to 
convert 27 - 30 sources per day, and finally finished.


I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but I believe it to be correct.

Thanks.

Robert


At 2008-11-18  12:44 AM, you wrote:

Re: Source Template Conversion Tool.
Can anyone help re the above in Version 7? According to the written 
manual I should be able to use this tool to convert my sources 
written in the "basic" format (in v.6) to the new "source writer" 
format but I can't find the tool anywhere. I've followed the 
instructions but the Conversion Tool does not appear. Has anyone 
else had this problem and hopefully know the answer?

Thanks.
Prue

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Tim Rosenlof]

Any clarification, I personally use the new SourceWriter. And here is your 
original question buried deep at the bottom of the other email. Accept my 
appology

Tim

- Original Message - 
From: Prue Beck

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7


Re: Source Template Conversion Tool.
Can anyone help re the above in Version 7? According to the written manual I 
should be able to use this tool to convert my sources written in the "basic" 
format (in v.6) to the new "source writer" format but I can't find the tool 
anywhere. I've followed the instructions but the Conversion Tool does not 
appear. Has anyone else had this problem and hopefully know the answer?

Thanks.
Prue
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Tim Rosenlof]

Changed to text

- Original Message - 
From: Prue Beck

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

Geoff (If it wasn't Geoff, correct me) sent a email I do believe back in 
September explaining the Conversion Tool. Here it is. I kept it for my own 
reference. I'm sure you will find it in the archives also.


"As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when 
it will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with 
the word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have 
sources that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to 
manually do this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing 
mine, which is not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep 
in mind that I, too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.


First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to 
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of 
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on 
his. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter. And 
when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style citations, I 
work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master 
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now


1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the 
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a small 
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.


2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is 
highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from the
Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the 
Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures. With
this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to create 
the new SourceWriter source.


3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this 
source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting the
text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with 
the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training CD 
at

http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.

4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue 
bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate 
event.


5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the SourceWriter 
style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is 
replaced with the SourceWriter version.


Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style 
source (master source and citation)."


Tim Rosenlof
Happy Hunting



Re: Source Template Conversion Tool.
Can anyone help re the above in Version 7? According to the written manual I 
should be able to use this tool to convert my sources written in the "basic" 
format (in v.6) to the new "source writer" format but I can't find the tool 
anywhere. I've followed the instructions but the Conversion Tool does not 
appear. Has anyone else had this problem and hopefully know the answer?

Thanks.
Prue



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Kirsten Bowman]

Prue:

You can't find it because it isn't there.  Unfortunately it was announced a
little prematurely and turned out to be more problematic in developing than
expected.  It hasn't been released yet, and probably won't be for a fairly
long time.  Meanwhile, many of us are just doing a manual conversion of
sources.  There are discussions about methods for this in the archives.

Kirsten

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7


Re: Source Template Conversion Tool.
Can anyone help re the above in Version 7? According to the written manual I
should be able to use this tool to convert my sources written in the "basic"
format (in v.6) to the new "source writer" format but I can't find the tool
anywhere. I've followed the instructions but the Conversion Tool does not
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Thanks.
Prue




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[LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Prue Beck]

Re: Source Template Conversion Tool.
Can anyone help re the above in Version 7? According to the written manual I 
should be able to use this tool to convert my sources written in the "basic" 
format (in v.6) to the new "source writer" format but I can't find the tool 
anywhere. I've followed the instructions but the Conversion Tool does not 
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Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[Robert57P via Gmail]

If I had to guess, I'd guess that the "shake-out cruise" shook out more items 
than expected.  This is a GOOD thing.  It means for a more stable product once 
it is released.  At least it was my understanding that during the recent cruise 
folks on that cruise were going to get a sneak peek at version 7.  I could be 
wrong though, because I haven't heard ANYONE talk about anything they saw on 
the cruise (demo or hands on).  Unless Legacy had everyone sign a 
"confidentiality agreement" (or whatever they are called) so no one is allowed 
to talk about it . . . 

Anyway, version 6 is still a very good and stable version.  Time will tell 
about version 7.  I'd rather have them take their time and release a good 
version rather than rush it out to the public and then have to make a bunch of 
patches.

Bob


- Original Message - 
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:32 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Version 7


  I was out of town and off list for much of October, and when I returned  I 
emailed Legacy re. Version 7. If you (like me) are anxious for news, FYI, here 
is their reply:

   

  Denise


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  From: Legacy Customer Service [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:44 PM
  To: 'Denise Levenick'
  Subject: RE: Legacy Upgrade

   

  Dear Denise,

   

  We're sorry to say that version 7 has not yet released.  Believe me, everyone 
is anxious!  Creating software is similar to building a house; if the plumber 
doesn't finish his work (perhaps he's waiting for a part) then the folks that 
install the insulation and sheetrock have to wait and down the line it goes.

   

  You should probably do as you suggest, "just continue with 6 and pretend that 
I haven't heard anything".  Thank you for your patience and understanding! 

   

  Best Regards,

  Pegi

   

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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:03 PM
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  Dear Legacy,

   

  I have been a subscriber to the Legacy User Group on and off since this past 
summer and was very excited to hear about the new Legacy 7. There was much 
discussion in Sept about this new version, and that it would probably be 
available after the Legacy Cruise. I see that the cruise ship has docked and 
everyone is back to daily life (I assume). What is the news with Legacy 7?

   

  There seemed to be a general consensus that the new features would make data 
entry much easier, so I have postponed  quite a bit of entry work in 
anticipation of the time-saving features of this new version. Do you have any 
kind of timetable for the release of this upgrade; or, perhaps, I should just 
continue with 6 and pretend that I haven't heard anything?

   

  Best regards,

   

  Denise Levenick

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[LegacyUG] Re: Version 7

[DLevenick]

I was out of town and off list for much of October, and when I returned  I
emailed Legacy re. Version 7. If you (like me) are anxious for news, FYI,
here is their reply:

 

Denise

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From: Legacy Customer Service [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:44 PM
To: 'Denise Levenick'
Subject: RE: Legacy Upgrade

 

Dear Denise,

 

We're sorry to say that version 7 has not yet released.  Believe me,
everyone is anxious!  Creating software is similar to building a house; if
the plumber doesn't finish his work (perhaps he's waiting for a part) then
the folks that install the insulation and sheetrock have to wait and down
the line it goes.

 

You should probably do as you suggest, "just continue with 6 and pretend
that I haven't heard anything".  Thank you for your patience and
understanding! 

 

Best Regards,

Pegi

 

Millennia Corporation

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From: Denise Levenick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Legacy Upgrade

Dear Legacy,

 

I have been a subscriber to the Legacy User Group on and off since this past
summer and was very excited to hear about the new Legacy 7. There was much
discussion in Sept about this new version, and that it would probably be
available after the Legacy Cruise. I see that the cruise ship has docked and
everyone is back to daily life (I assume). What is the news with Legacy 7?

 

There seemed to be a general consensus that the new features would make data
entry much easier, so I have postponed  quite a bit of entry work in
anticipation of the time-saving features of this new version. Do you have
any kind of timetable for the release of this upgrade; or, perhaps, I should
just continue with 6 and pretend that I haven't heard anything?

 

Best regards,

 

Denise Levenick

Enthusiastic Legacy user

 

 





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