Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0500, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Let me rephrase the question this way... Assuming the time it takes to populate the fields isn't an issue, what kind of things would you like to do with User IDs (individual and marriage) that you don't do today? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I would like to put the MRIN in the Marriage ID. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0500, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Let me rephrase the question this way... Assuming the time it takes to populate the fields isn't an issue, what kind of things would you like to do with User IDs (individual and marriage) that you don't do today? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I started to do that one by one, and the problem there is that there's no option I can see for printing them out, or searching them, or anything else. If it is just for secure storage in case you had to renumber your MRIN's maybe that would work. But they're still kind of inaccessible, and on the main screen where it says MRIN, you'd have to remind yourself to ignore those, or copy back the updated numbers one by one. Or something. I decided to stop my process which was going to take days anyway while I think about how useful it would be, if at all. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Bruce Jones wrote: I would like to put the MRIN in the Marriage ID. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0500, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Let me rephrase the question this way... Assuming the time it takes to populate the fields isn't an issue, what kind of things would you like to do with User IDs (individual and marriage) that you don't do today? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
Started to do what one by one? Populating the marriage UserID with the MRIN? On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:56:31 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to do that one by one, and the problem there is that there's no option I can see for printing them out, or searching them, or anything else. If it is just for secure storage in case you had to renumber your MRIN's maybe that would work. But they're still kind of inaccessible, and on the main screen where it says MRIN, you'd have to remind yourself to ignore those, or copy back the updated numbers one by one. Or something. I decided to stop my process which was going to take days anyway while I think about how useful it would be, if at all. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Bruce Jones wrote: I would like to put the MRIN in the Marriage ID. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0500, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Let me rephrase the question this way... Assuming the time it takes to populate the fields isn't an issue, what kind of things would you like to do with User IDs (individual and marriage) that you don't do today? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
Yes. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: Started to do what one by one? Populating the marriage UserID with the MRIN? On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:56:31 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to do that one by one, and the problem there is that there's no option I can see for printing them out, or searching them, or anything else. If it is just for secure storage in case you had to renumber your MRIN's maybe that would work. But they're still kind of inaccessible, and on the main screen where it says MRIN, you'd have to remind yourself to ignore those, or copy back the updated numbers one by one. Or something. I decided to stop my process which was going to take days anyway while I think about how useful it would be, if at all. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Bruce Jones wrote: I would like to put the MRIN in the Marriage ID. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0500, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Let me rephrase the question this way... Assuming the time it takes to populate the fields isn't an issue, what kind of things would you like to do with User IDs (individual and marriage) that you don't do today? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I don't. :-) Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: 22 November 2008 17:28 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] User IDs I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
Dennis, The Ancestor Book will give Ahnentafel numbers. I *think* this is the only report that does this. Jennifer - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:11:18 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:54:01 -0800 (PST), Jennifer Trahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I am no. 1. My father is no. 2 and my mother is no. 3. My brother and sister are 1.2 and 1.3. My paternal grandparents are no. 4 and 5 and my maternal grandparents are no. 6 and 7. Sounds like your own version of an Ahnentafel system. I don't think Legacy produces any reports with Ahnentafel numbers, does it? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I use them for the MRIN's, just in case my MRIN's need renumbering. I resisted this for a long time but Sherry has been very insistent for a long time on the possibility of needing MRIN's renumbered (for unknown, to me, tech support reasons) and if you're using the MRIN filing system this could be become a huge problem. So I finally bit the bullet and put them all into the User ID fields as well. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:16:36 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use them for the MRIN's, just in case my MRIN's need renumbering. I resisted this for a long time but Sherry has been very insistent for a long time on the possibility of needing MRIN's renumbered (for unknown, to me, tech support reasons) and if you're using the MRIN filing system this could be become a huge problem. So I finally bit the bullet and put them all into the User ID fields as well. Then I assume you are referring to the User ID on the marriage record. I guess the Options Customize Other Fill all ID fields doesn't do anything with the User ID on the marriage record. -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? I handle a database which covers some 900 original settlers to NZ, and their descendants. I use the ID field to key in the ship that a particular individual travelled to NZ in. Very handy when I want a list of all the people who travelled on a certain vessel. -- Anne PICKETTS Waipu, NZ NZSG #5331; KFHS #6151 Researching in Ireland + Cornwall, Dorset, Sussex, Kent, Yorkshire, Bucks and Northampton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
Sorry, I thought you were referring to the User ID field of the Individual's Information which is where I put them. I didn't even know there was a User ID on the 'marriage record'. Now sitting here with Legacy open I can see it. On your second point, I don't think there's a way to add MRIN's to the User ID field with a single click, period, only if you're wanting to do that with RIN's. That's under Customize/Other. And then I assume that applies to the Individual's Information. Nope, I did it by sheer will power, one number at a time. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:16:36 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use them for the MRIN's, just in case my MRIN's need renumbering. I resisted this for a long time but Sherry has been very insistent for a long time on the possibility of needing MRIN's renumbered (for unknown, to me, tech support reasons) and if you're using the MRIN filing system this could be become a huge problem. So I finally bit the bullet and put them all into the User ID fields as well. Then I assume you are referring to the User ID on the marriage record. I guess the Options Customize Other Fill all ID fields doesn't do anything with the User ID on the marriage record. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:45:56 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the User ID field of the Individual's Information which is where I put them. I was. But since you mentioned the MRIN filing system, I assumed you were talking about the marriage record User ID. So how do you handle multiple marriages? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I just put both numbers there. 0001, 5103 for instance. It would actually make more sense to put them into the Marriage Info User ID, now that you mention it, and they can be displayed on the Family View using the field called SpMRIN. Although, why anybody would want to, I don't know. However, we don't have the option in the Name List to toggle between RIN and MRIN User ID. User ID means Indiv Info User ID. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:45:56 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the User ID field of the Individual's Information which is where I put them. I was. But since you mentioned the MRIN filing system, I assumed you were talking about the marriage record User ID. So how do you handle multiple marriages? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
Which now begs the question: If you use Clear all User ID's under Customize/Other does this include both the Indv Info User ID's and the Marriage Info User ID's or just the Indv Info ones? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog JLB wrote: I just put both numbers there. 0001, 5103 for instance. It would actually make more sense to put them into the Marriage Info User ID, now that you mention it, and they can be displayed on the Family View using the field called SpMRIN. Although, why anybody would want to, I don't know. However, we don't have the option in the Name List to toggle between RIN and MRIN User ID. User ID means Indiv Info User ID. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:45:56 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the User ID field of the Individual's Information which is where I put them. I was. But since you mentioned the MRIN filing system, I assumed you were talking about the marriage record User ID. So how do you handle multiple marriages? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:35:20 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which now begs the question: If you use Clear all User ID's under Customize/Other does this include both the Indv Info User ID's and the Marriage Info User ID's or just the Indv Info ones? Only a test of this will tell. ;-) -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
No, I really would like to hear the answer to that from Legacy. If I'm going to move my User ID's to the Marriage Info screen, I'd like to know I can clear the Indv Info User ID's from there only. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:35:20 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which now begs the question: If you use Clear all User ID's under Customize/Other does this include both the Indv Info User ID's and the Marriage Info User ID's or just the Indv Info ones? Only a test of this will tell. ;-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] User IDs
I maintain a website for all Peden/Paden families in the United States. I use the User ID field to record 'which' family and DNA line they belong to; i.e., *Peden04 (DNA group 6)*. Then I change the 'name list' to show 'User ID' instead of the default 'RIN'. This allows me to quickly determine 'which' family the individual belongs to. Donald E. Paden [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.padenfamily.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:28 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] User IDs I'm just curious... What kind of things do people use User IDs for? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User IDs
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:07:32 -0800, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I really would like to hear the answer to that from Legacy. If I'm going to move my User ID's to the Marriage Info screen, I'd like to know I can clear the Indv Info User ID's from there only. It's much easier and quicker to Save As to a new database and try it yourself. -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] USER IDs (long message)
I'm a long-time lurker on the list, prompted to make this post by the recent exchanges concerning MRIN filing and RIN vs. USER ID. My use of the USER ID field is unique to my needs, but I'll share my system in the hope it may give others some useful ideas. The primary goal of my genealogical research is to trace each of my ancestral lines back to the individual who emigrated to what is now the USA. I think of each line as extending from a foremother (who carried the family name until she married) back to her emigrant forefather. So I assign to each direct-line ancestor (DLA for short) a USER ID that helps me track my progress toward that goal. The basic USER ID consists of six characters: the first four letters of the surname (all in capital letters), followed by a number (1, 2, 3, 4 -- to distinguish one family with the same or similar surname from another), and a letter (a, b, c – to track the DLAs in that line back in the correct order by generations). I started this system back in PAF when the number of characters in the field was limited; in Legacy, you might want to base your system on 5 letters instead of 4. When I encounter a 3 letter surname, I just insert a dash in the fourth position, such as COX-1a. So far I have only seven SMIT lines (Smith, Smithson, etc), but if you worry about having more than 10 lines in your database with the same or similar surnames and are concerned about the order in which they will sort in lists, add another character to your USER ID scheme and start the numbering with 01 instead of 1. Examples: • My grandmother Elizabeth Woodruff is assigned the USER ID of WOOD1a (all female DLAs have an a in the sixth position), her father W. D. Woodruff is WOOD1b, his father A. S. Woodruff is WOOD1c, and back it goes to John Woodruff (WOOD1J) and his father John Woodruff (WOOD1K), who both emigrated from England in 1639. By capitalizing the J and K, I know I've reached my research goal of finding the emigrant for that line. If the foremother is herself the emigrant, she gets a capital A instead of a lower case one. • When I added Agnes Woodson to my database as a 5th-ggm, I assigned WOOD2a to her, and traced her line back to Robert Woodson (WOOD2c) and his father Dr. John Woodson (WOOD2D), the emigrant. • Subsequently, when I later added Elizabeth Woodson as another 5th-ggm, I assigned WOOD3a to her, thus creating a third WOOD line. As I traced her back, I realized that Robert Woodson was her grandfather as well, so I changed his code to WOOD2c3c, and his father Dr. John Woodson got the code of WOOD2D3D. This helps me untangle my various lines, although I can see that it might become too cumbersome to be helpful in some databases where families are more densely intertwined. Uses: • I file all my documentation by family, somewhat following the MRIN filing philosophy. My folders and binders are labeled with the names and USER IDs of the parents, and they are kept in generation order by the father's USER ID. To find documentation on the birth of a DLA, I look in the parents' folder. The DLA's own folder is the place to look for documentation from his marriage and after, including the birth of his children. I keep at hand a simple list of foremothers to remind me of their husband's and father's USER IDs. • I set up Legacy to display the USER ID (instead of the RIN) whenever I can – such as in the index view, the name list, and in search-result lists. I find the ability to sort by USER ID is very helpful, given my way of thinking about my research. Unfortunately, the USER ID option is not available for the Marriage List view (but perhaps, if others adopt my way of using the USER ID, it will be added as an option). • I also opt to have the USER ID appear following the name on the pedigree and family view and in almost all of the reports that I use on a regular basis. Quirks of my own: Although my research goal is to document my direct-line ancestors (DLAs), I am also interested in their immediate families, as research on them often yields clues in my DLA research. In my Legacy database, I create individual records for all siblings and half-siblings of my DLAs (complete with birth, death, and burial information), but to avoid the proliferation of individuals in the database, I use events (Marriage, Birth of child, Census, etc.) to record information about the spouse and children of these siblings. In a sibling record, I use the USER ID differently than I do with my DLA records: • If the sibling died young, I assign dy as the USER ID and that appears in curly brackets after the sibling's name, reminding me that I don't need to look for a marriage for that individual. Obviously none of my DLAs died young; otherwise I wouldn't be here! • Similarly, I use nm as the USER ID if the sibling lived to adulthood but never married. • For sisters who did marry, I type in their married surname(s) as the USER ID. When I'm trying to figure out family documents such as
Re: [LegacyUG] USER IDs (long message)
Thank you very much for posting your approach! I found it very interesting. I will be studying it for possible use in my database. I hope others will also share their method of using the USER ID field (or possible modifications of yours). On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Ellen Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a long-time lurker on the list, prompted to make this post by the recent exchanges concerning MRIN filing and RIN vs. USER ID. My use of the USER ID field is unique to my needs, but I'll share my system in the hope it may give others some useful ideas. The primary goal of my genealogical research is to trace each of my ancestral lines back to the individual who emigrated to what is now the USA. I think of each line as extending from a foremother (who carried the family name until she married) back to her emigrant forefather. So I assign to each direct-line ancestor (DLA for short) a USER ID that helps me track my progress toward that goal. The basic USER ID consists of six characters: the first four letters of the surname (all in capital letters), followed by a number (1, 2, 3, 4 -- to distinguish one family with the same or similar surname from another), and a letter (a, b, c – to track the DLAs in that line back in the correct order by generations). I started this system back in PAF when the number of characters in the field was limited; in Legacy, you might want to base your system on 5 letters instead of 4. When I encounter a 3 letter surname, I just insert a dash in the fourth position, such as COX-1a. So far I have only seven SMIT lines (Smith, Smithson, etc), but if you worry about having more than 10 lines in your database with the same or similar surnames and are concerned about the order in which they will sort in lists, add another character to your USER ID scheme and start the numbering with 01 instead of 1. Examples: • My grandmother Elizabeth Woodruff is assigned the USER ID of WOOD1a (all female DLAs have an a in the sixth position), her father W. D. Woodruff is WOOD1b, his father A. S. Woodruff is WOOD1c, and back it goes to John Woodruff (WOOD1J) and his father John Woodruff (WOOD1K), who both emigrated from England in 1639. By capitalizing the J and K, I know I've reached my research goal of finding the emigrant for that line. If the foremother is herself the emigrant, she gets a capital A instead of a lower case one. • When I added Agnes Woodson to my database as a 5th-ggm, I assigned WOOD2a to her, and traced her line back to Robert Woodson (WOOD2c) and his father Dr. John Woodson (WOOD2D), the emigrant. • Subsequently, when I later added Elizabeth Woodson as another 5th-ggm, I assigned WOOD3a to her, thus creating a third WOOD line. As I traced her back, I realized that Robert Woodson was her grandfather as well, so I changed his code to WOOD2c3c, and his father Dr. John Woodson got the code of WOOD2D3D. This helps me untangle my various lines, although I can see that it might become too cumbersome to be helpful in some databases where families are more densely intertwined. Uses: • I file all my documentation by family, somewhat following the MRIN filing philosophy. My folders and binders are labeled with the names and USER IDs of the parents, and they are kept in generation order by the father's USER ID. To find documentation on the birth of a DLA, I look in the parents' folder. The DLA's own folder is the place to look for documentation from his marriage and after, including the birth of his children. I keep at hand a simple list of foremothers to remind me of their husband's and father's USER IDs. • I set up Legacy to display the USER ID (instead of the RIN) whenever I can – such as in the index view, the name list, and in search-result lists. I find the ability to sort by USER ID is very helpful, given my way of thinking about my research. Unfortunately, the USER ID option is not available for the Marriage List view (but perhaps, if others adopt my way of using the USER ID, it will be added as an option). • I also opt to have the USER ID appear following the name on the pedigree and family view and in almost all of the reports that I use on a regular basis. Quirks of my own: Although my research goal is to document my direct-line ancestors (DLAs), I am also interested in their immediate families, as research on them often yields clues in my DLA research. In my Legacy database, I create individual records for all siblings and half-siblings of my DLAs (complete with birth, death, and burial information), but to avoid the proliferation of individuals in the database, I use events (Marriage, Birth of child, Census, etc.) to record information about the spouse and children of these siblings. In a sibling record, I use the USER ID differently than I do with my DLA records: • If the sibling died young, I assign dy as the USER ID and that appears in curly brackets after the
