Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-06 Thread Brian/Support

Arnold,

As the bug coordinator for Legacy I have great reservations about asking 
the programmers to change Legacy to allow what you have requested. If 
you click on the Help button on the GEDCOM export screen the very first 
paragraph is a step by step procedure for exporting a GEDCOM.


Step two in the procedure is selecting the destination, using the 
customize button to change those selections is step 4. As Sherry 
explained in her response each destination format has a pre-defined list 
of items that are included. Selecting the Destination at step 2 sets 
those pre-defined items. Using the customize button as step 4 then lets 
you customize the items from the pre-defined defaults for the selected 
Destination format.


If we change Legacy so the exclusions on the Customize screen are kept 
from one destination format to another I foresee, right after we issue 
the amended version, another message from a user who says something like:


I customized my Legacy destination export to exclude item Y but when I 
decided I wanted to use the GEDCOM 5.5 list I expected that all the 
GEDCOM 5.5 items would be included. Instead I STILL lost my item Y data. 
That is a serious Bug. When I select GEDCOM 5.5 I want Legacy to give me 
ALL the GEDCOM 5.5 items without me having to revisit the customize 
screen and undoing any exclusions I made for another format.


I believe the way Legacy works now is the correct methodology and is 
properly explained in the Help File for the GEDCOM Export. Now that you 
understand how and why Legacy works the way it does I trust you will see 
why I do not intend to submit a bug report to the programmers on this issue.


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Arnold Sprague wrote:

At 10:13 AM 11/5/2006, you wrote:

Each option for producing the gedcom has its own selection of items to
export.  Set the Produce File For option first then change the customize
option.  When you change the main option, you're basically resetting what
you've done before.

I understand that.
I am only suggesting that the Legacy programmers *not* force a reset 
when changing the default "Produce File For" option. I belive this can 
be done easily. I see no reason that Legacy users should be blind sided 
by an unannounced forced reset only to see, in my case, all the excluded 
notes appear on the Internet.

There is no similar forced reset when the Character Set is changed.



In some cases, things that you've selected to exclude
are already excluded by the main option.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
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Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold
Sprague
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize 
option to
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce 
File For

option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice to
EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes,
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.

I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options 
in the

GEDCOM Export in any order we want.



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RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread ronald ferguson
There is a big, big difference between content and presentation, there is no 
way the two can be compared like that.


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From: Arnold Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 10:42:41 -0600

At 10:13 AM 11/5/2006, you wrote:

Each option for producing the gedcom has its own selection of items to
export.  Set the Produce File For option first then change the customize
option.  When you change the main option, you're basically resetting what
you've done before.

I understand that.
I am only suggesting that the Legacy programmers *not* force a reset when 
changing the default "Produce File For" option. I belive this can be done 
easily. I see no reason that Legacy users should be blind sided by an 
unannounced forced reset only to see, in my case, all the excluded notes 
appear on the Internet.

There is no similar forced reset when the Character Set is changed.



In some cases, things that you've selected to exclude
are already excluded by the main option.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold
Sprague
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize option 
to
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce File 
For

option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice to
EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes,
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.

I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options in 
the

GEDCOM Export in any order we want


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RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread Arnold Sprague

At 10:13 AM 11/5/2006, you wrote:

Each option for producing the gedcom has its own selection of items to
export.  Set the Produce File For option first then change the customize
option.  When you change the main option, you're basically resetting what
you've done before.

I understand that.
I am only suggesting that the Legacy programmers *not* force a reset 
when changing the default "Produce File For" option. I belive this 
can be done easily. I see no reason that Legacy users should be blind 
sided by an unannounced forced reset only to see, in my case, all the 
excluded notes appear on the Internet.

There is no similar forced reset when the Character Set is changed.



In some cases, things that you've selected to exclude
are already excluded by the main option.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold
Sprague
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize option to
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce File For
option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice to
EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes,
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.

I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options in the
GEDCOM Export in any order we want.



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RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread Sherry/Support
Each option for producing the gedcom has its own selection of items to
export.  Set the Produce File For option first then change the customize
option.  When you change the main option, you're basically resetting what
you've done before.  In some cases, things that you've selected to exclude
are already excluded by the main option.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.
   

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold
Sprague
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize option to
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce File For
option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice to
EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes,
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.

I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options in the
GEDCOM Export in any order we want.



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Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread Dave Naylor
On 5 Nov 2006  Arnold Sprague wrote:

> When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize
> option to Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the
> Produce File For option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns
> out that my choice to EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away.
> I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options in
> the GEDCOM Export in any order we want. 

The difference between producing a file for Legacy, Gedcom 5.5, etc. 
is only in the items included and excluded.  So if you don't want 
Legacy to change these then what exactly *do* you want it to do when 
you change the "Produce File For" setting?

Changing the "Produce File for" setting should set the gedcom items 
to the defaults as needed by that application.  Any customizations 
you wish to make in those items must therefore be made *after* that.

If you regularly make a specific type of customized gedcom then you 
should save your settings to a file -- click on Save List.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
-- 
  David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. 
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RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread Arnold Sprague

Yes.
Arnold Sprague


At 09:24 AM 11/5/2006, you wrote:

Have you tried changing the order of 1) and 2)?

Ron Ferguson



From: Arnold Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:11:11 -0600

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize 
option to Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change 
the Produce File For option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it 
turns out that my choice to EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. 
This is repeatable. Regular Notes, which were not supposed to 
appear, on the website do.


I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the 
options in the GEDCOM Export in any order we want.





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RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-05 Thread ronald ferguson

Have you tried changing the order of 1) and 2)?

Ron Ferguson



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From: Arnold Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:11:11 -0600

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize option to 
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce File 
For option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice 
to EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes, 
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.


I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options in the 
GEDCOM Export in any order we want.




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