Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Just to go back to June's (the original poster) problem and the multiple lines of descent. I use that report and find life much easier now that I have put at the head of each line 'Old Father... ' and 'Old Mother...'. If I now click the name list, select 'Given', and scroll down to 'Old' I have all the heads of families listed. It also helps when at the head of a family you have two siblings whose father one can't trace. 'Old Father...' conveniently links them. I must try Byron's publishing centre ideas - they sound interesting. I haven't yet found a use for the publishing centre Alastair Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Ron: Thank you for the explanation. I was wondering why the book was so big. Here's one piece of advice I got from an instructor in another genealogical program. Before adding oodles of people to your file and then finding out you did something wrong, first add a manageable amount - 50 or so. Then test all the features of the program with those 50 people to be sure you've entered everything correctly. And that you fully understand the features of the program before progressing to the hundreds of people you eventually end up with. I try to follow that advice, even though it is tempting to add everyone all at once. Peggy ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peggy, Good advice, I too am aware of that rule, which is why I said I am reaching the limit of my HDD but not quite there yet. May I may it clear that the problem is not mine as I was deliberately trying to crash the program to see the maximum pages it could produce before it crashed. If it had not crashed when it did I would have continued to increase the size of the file until it happened. This was to try and establish whether it was Legacy which was causing the crashing or the limitation of the PC> I cannot ever envisage wanting to produce a report/book of over 250 pages let alone 4300. The problem was that of the Original Poster Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ >From: Krones2004 >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:54:39 -0800 (PST) > >When I was working (I'm now happily retired and doing genealogy) my >computer guru gave me this following tip. He said that to always leave at >least a third of your hard drive free. He said that this gives whatever >program you're running plenty of room to process commands. I really didn't >understand his technical jargon but this is what I understood in a >non-technical means. > > It seems the computer uses the free hard drive space to process the >commands you give the computer. It writes temp files to this space, >processes them, then deletes them before quitting the process. > > So if your hard drive is over 2/3rds full, you may not be giving your >program enough space to process your command. > > I have been following this 2/3 full and 1/3 empty for some years and, so >far, have not been having my programs crash when I ask them to process a >lot of information. Hope this helps. > > Peggy > > >malkajef wrote: > Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being >filled >up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary >files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. > >Jeff > >ronald ferguson wrote: > > I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). > > > > As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and > > selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names >as > > this > > was the report used by the OP. > > > > Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - > > so not big! > > > > The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual > > Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long > > time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. > > > > On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 > > pages. > > I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour > > charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed > > at 4230 pages. > > I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being > > 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed >in > > the region of 4370 pages. > > > > It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I > > changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the > > Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when > > the PF contained 500MB. > > During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of > > memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the > > PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able >to > > produce more if the settings a
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Sorry. I had not followed the thread. Jeff - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Jeff, Yes and no. I have 15GB available which is getting towards the limit but not there yet! I *always* keep my PC clean and this work was done following other people's crashes to see if I could establish possible causes - ie I was loading as much as possible to try and get it to crash so I could use the limits of mine as a guide line.. Ron ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "malkajef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:25:27 -0500 Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being filled up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. Jeff ronald ferguson wrote: I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as this was the report used by the OP. Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - so not big! The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 pages. I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed at 4230 pages. I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in the region of 4370 pages. It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when the PF contained 500MB. During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to produce more if the settings are correct. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "C.G. Ouimet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any problem except feeding it paper ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Schafbuch Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Peggy, Good advice, I too am aware of that rule, which is why I said I am reaching the limit of my HDD but not quite there yet. May I may it clear that the problem is not mine as I was deliberately trying to crash the program to see the maximum pages it could produce before it crashed. If it had not crashed when it did I would have continued to increase the size of the file until it happened. This was to try and establish whether it was Legacy which was causing the crashing or the limitation of the PC> I cannot ever envisage wanting to produce a report/book of over 250 pages let alone 4300. The problem was that of the Original Poster Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: Krones2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:54:39 -0800 (PST) When I was working (I'm now happily retired and doing genealogy) my computer guru gave me this following tip. He said that to always leave at least a third of your hard drive free. He said that this gives whatever program you're running plenty of room to process commands. I really didn't understand his technical jargon but this is what I understood in a non-technical means. It seems the computer uses the free hard drive space to process the commands you give the computer. It writes temp files to this space, processes them, then deletes them before quitting the process. So if your hard drive is over 2/3rds full, you may not be giving your program enough space to process your command. I have been following this 2/3 full and 1/3 empty for some years and, so far, have not been having my programs crash when I ask them to process a lot of information. Hope this helps. Peggy malkajef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being filled up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. Jeff ronald ferguson wrote: > I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). > > As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and > selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as > this > was the report used by the OP. > > Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - > so not big! > > The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual > Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long > time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. > > On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 > pages. > I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour > charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed > at 4230 pages. > I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being > 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in > the region of 4370 pages. > > It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I > changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the > Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when > the PF contained 500MB. > During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of > memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the > PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to > produce more if the settings are correct. > > Ron Ferguson > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > __________ > > > > > >> From: "C.G. Ouimet" >> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> To: >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 >> >> >> Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any >> problem >> except feeding it paper ... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Byron Schafbuch >> Sent: Monday,
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
When I was working (I'm now happily retired and doing genealogy) my computer guru gave me this following tip. He said that to always leave at least a third of your hard drive free. He said that this gives whatever program you're running plenty of room to process commands. I really didn't understand his technical jargon but this is what I understood in a non-technical means. It seems the computer uses the free hard drive space to process the commands you give the computer. It writes temp files to this space, processes them, then deletes them before quitting the process. So if your hard drive is over 2/3rds full, you may not be giving your program enough space to process your command. I have been following this 2/3 full and 1/3 empty for some years and, so far, have not been having my programs crash when I ask them to process a lot of information. Hope this helps. Peggy malkajef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being filled up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. Jeff ronald ferguson wrote: > I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). > > As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and > selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as > this > was the report used by the OP. > > Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - > so not big! > > The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual > Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long > time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. > > On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 > pages. > I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour > charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed > at 4230 pages. > I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being > 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in > the region of 4370 pages. > > It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I > changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the > Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when > the PF contained 500MB. > During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of > memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the > PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to > produce more if the settings are correct. > > Ron Ferguson > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > ______________ > > > > > >> From: "C.G. Ouimet" >> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> To: >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 >> >> >> Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any >> problem >> except feeding it paper ... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Byron Schafbuch >> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >> >> Ron >> >> One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk >> space isn't >> enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time >> that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still >> has a >> problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap >> file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would >> be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the >> program >> to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy >> seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different >> computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, >> i.e. >> limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited >> data >> reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large >> report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have >> noticed. >> >> My experience over the
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Jeff, Yes and no. I have 15GB available which is getting towards the limit but not there yet! I *always* keep my PC clean and this work was done following other people's crashes to see if I could establish possible causes - ie I was loading as much as possible to try and get it to crash so I could use the limits of mine as a guide line.. Ron ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "malkajef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:25:27 -0500 Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being filled up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. Jeff ronald ferguson wrote: I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as this was the report used by the OP. Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - so not big! The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 pages. I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed at 4230 pages. I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in the region of 4370 pages. It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when the PF contained 500MB. During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to produce more if the settings are correct. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "C.G. Ouimet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any problem except feeding it paper ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Schafbuch Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch -Original Message- From: [
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Windows XP uses the HD for additional memory. Is your HD near being filled up? That could be the cause of the crash. If so, delete some unnecessary files (and empty the recycle bin to make that deleted space available. Jeff ronald ferguson wrote: I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as this was the report used by the OP. Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - so not big! The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 pages. I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed at 4230 pages. I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in the region of 4370 pages. It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when the PF contained 500MB. During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to produce more if the settings are correct. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "C.G. Ouimet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any problem except feeding it paper ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Schafbuch Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Jenny, I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation of your PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prin
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
I have had a great afternoon - crashing my computer :-). As promised I have been trying to run large Legacy reports and selected the Individual Report for an entire file containing 2647 names as this was the report used by the OP. Firstly my machine spec: Windows XP Home SP2, HDD 40GB, RAM 256MB - so not big! The first thing I should say is that I have run it with the Virtual Memory (Page File) set a bit above the recommended level for a long time with a min of 338MB and a max of 680MB. On the standard Individual Report this gave me a full set of 2654 pages. I then tried with the "include chronological pages" set using colour charts (they also include two of the Legacy Timelines). This crashed at 4230 pages. I then tried many settings for the max and min PF the last one being 700MB min and 1GB max. These settings (including the last) all crashed in the region of 4370 pages. It did not seem to matter what the settings of the PF were if I changed from 400MB min 800MB max. The machine crashed when the Loading reached 100% (obviously) and this was pretty well always when the PF contained 500MB. During all my tests Legacy itself was not using more than 120KB of memory (approx); so it would seem that I had reached the limit of the PC's capabilities. If so it follows the bigger machines should be able to produce more if the settings are correct. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "C.G. Ouimet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:34 -0500 Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any problem except feeding it paper ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Schafbuch Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > ronald ferguson > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:03 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > Jenny, > > I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic > question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation of your > PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? > > Ron Ferguson > > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family > tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > __ > > > > > > >From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:53:19 + > > &
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Well, I've generated a few 700 page Ancestor Book Report without any problem except feeding it paper ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Schafbuch Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 13:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > ronald ferguson > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:03 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > Jenny, > > I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic > question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation of your > PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? > > Ron Ferguson > > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family > tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > __ > > > > > > >From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:53:19 + > > > >Byron Schafbuch wrote > >>Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being > >>able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At > what level I > >>am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. > > > >It couldn't cope with an entire file Individual Report for my Family > >File of 2042 people. > > > >But that's ok, I don't think I could cope with that much paper! > >-- > >Jenny M Benson > > _ > Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! > http://msnuk.match.com/ > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe > has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more > about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives > at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFam
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Byron, Like you I am aware of the problems of programming with limited memory - I started off with only 32KB and for storage had to read/write directly to disc. I too would have thought that 1 GB of RAM would handle most things, although the 40GB HD is not really relevant, particularly if the Free Space is getting low and mine is pushing the limit being only around 15 GB. I simply asked because I haven't tried it so didn't know and cannot try it for a few days as I'm writing a database and want to get that buttoned up before I have a go at crashing my machine - but try it I will, could be interesting! I'll keep my eye on what is going on to see if I can tell which the problem is. It is possibly not only Legacy that has this problem because I have met other programs which use Access or similar which cannot, as you say, handle large amounts of data and large reports. I have read on numerous occasions of Open Office Writer (which is very similar to Word - I know that neither is a DB) not being able to handle large complex books in one go, whereas specialised publishing programs can. In the main it seems to me that one may have to accept that the program, even with its publishing center, is not designed for writing big books in one go. However, I'm getting ahead of myself. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "Byron Schafbuch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:20:18 -0600 Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:03 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > Jenny, > > I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic > question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation > of your PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? > > Ron Ferguson > > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the > family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > __________ > > > > > > >From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:53:19 + > > > >Byron Schafbuch wrote > >>Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being > >>able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At > what level I > >>am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. > > > >It couldn't cope with an entire file Individual Report for my Family > >File of 2042 p
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Ron One would think it is a Legacy problem, if 1GB ram and 40gb disk space isn't enough room to work with. Legacy has had the problem a long time that it tends/seems to need/hog large amounts of memory. Legacy still has a problem dealing with memory issues. The purpose of the windows swap file was to act as virtual memory so to speak, in which a program would be able to have 'all' the memory it needed, but it does require the program to manage that memory properly and efficiently, something that Legacy seems to have a problem with over the last few years. With 3 different computers and other friends computers, I have seen the same type problem, i.e. limited number of names - not problem, large amount of names and limited data reports - usually not a problem, large amount of names and large report style - **problem**. Has been for several years that I have noticed. My experience over the years with programming is, with limited memory but efficient program - it may take a while but program task will be completed, however, if program is unable to efficiently cope with memory issues, the program will almost always hang/crash/stall and the task will not be completed. Unless you artificially 'band-aid' the problem by forcing user to add memory to his system to compensate for the fact of inefficient programming under the guise of 'your computer don't have enough memory' statement. Just my observation. Byron Schafbuch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:03 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > Jenny, > > I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic > question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation > of your PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? > > Ron Ferguson > > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the > family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ > __ > > > > > > >From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:53:19 + > > > >Byron Schafbuch wrote > >>Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being > >>able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At > what level I > >>am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. > > > >It couldn't cope with an entire file Individual Report for my Family > >File of 2042 people. > > > >But that's ok, I don't think I could cope with that much paper! > >-- > >Jenny M Benson > > _ > Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! > http://msnuk.match.com/ > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe > has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more > about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives > at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
ronald ferguson wrote I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation of your PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? Good question. I have got quite a bit of memory (768MB) but I have never tried such a big report before. I was just doing it because of the previous poster's comment about not knowing where on the scale from 300+ to 13K+ records Legacy (apparently) failed. -- Jenny M Benson Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Jenny, I haven't tried big reports of that size so am asking a basic question. Is it that Legacy can't cope or a memory limitation of your PC eg not enough RAM to handle it? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:53:19 + Byron Schafbuch wrote Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At what level I am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. It couldn't cope with an entire file Individual Report for my Family File of 2042 people. But that's ok, I don't think I could cope with that much paper! -- Jenny M Benson _ Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! http://msnuk.match.com/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Byron Schafbuch wrote Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At what level I am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. It couldn't cope with an entire file Individual Report for my Family File of 2042 people. But that's ok, I don't think I could cope with that much paper! -- Jenny M Benson Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Hello June Maybe this will help with what you are looking for: On the toolbar select - On the left side select then - Click on - This will bring you to the 'Select a Report' menu with the 'Individual Report' tab selected, on the bottom, click on the button - On the "Report Record Selection" menu, click on the button for - the 'Report Record' menu - the 'Select Report' menu - Now back at the publishing center, you can also use the to select options for report formatting - You can now 'Preview' your report, or print, or generate to file, your preference. NOTE: The 'Individual Report' is a 1-page-to-1-person report. i.e. 500+ people means 500+ pages to print. Also CAUTION: have noticed that Legacy has a definite problem being able to handle/preview/print/generate LARGE reports. At what level I am not sure, but legacy 'hangs' generating large reports. I have 2 databases I maintain, one w/300+, and another w/ 13000+. The small one generates whatever I need, whenever, however, the LARGE one of 13k+, almost always cause Legacy to hang making LARGE report, even for preview or to make a file. Hope this helps Byron Schafbuch Big Lake, MN > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of June Chan > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:47 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > Does anyone know if it is possible to print a book that > includes everyone who is in my data base. I have looked at > the reports menu and can't see a report but I may just not be > understanding what I am reading. > > Thank you > > June > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe > has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more > about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives > at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
That is workable, I think you will find the 'Multiple' very useful to you. Rich --- June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a total of 528 people > > Thanks - June > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of RICHARD > SCHULTHIES > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:10 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book > > You need to isolate every end of the line ancestor, > then run multiple lines of descent. Choose, 'do not > print duplicates'. > How big a DB are we talking. > Rich > --- June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy > 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard > Edition. Learn more about these features at > http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable > archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
JUne, In which case lines of multiple Descent should do it. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "June Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:11:20 +1000 Thank you Ron. All the people are connected (for example the children and grandchildren of my 2nd cousin 4 times removed) I realize that that is a very tenuous relationship but thought that it would be interesting to see a book which includes everyone who is related related of the degree. I will look at the multiple lines of descent as you suggest. That may give me what I want. Thank you June -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book June, Not to my knowledge, unless they are all ancestors or descendents. However you may wish to look at multiple lines of descent which would probably cover most of what you are looking for. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ >From: "June Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >To: >Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:47:25 +1000 > >Does anyone know if it is possible to print a book that includes everyone >who is in my data base. I have looked at the reports menu and can't see a >report but I may just not be understanding what I am reading. > >Thank you > >June _ Have you tried Windows Live Spaces? Tell us what you think! https://www.msnfeedback.com/perseus/surveys/961278308/6653c632.htm Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
I have a total of 528 people Thanks - June -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book You need to isolate every end of the line ancestor, then run multiple lines of descent. Choose, 'do not print duplicates'. How big a DB are we talking. Rich --- June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
Thank you Ron. All the people are connected (for example the children and grandchildren of my 2nd cousin 4 times removed) I realize that that is a very tenuous relationship but thought that it would be interesting to see a book which includes everyone who is related related of the degree. I will look at the multiple lines of descent as you suggest. That may give me what I want. Thank you June -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book June, Not to my knowledge, unless they are all ancestors or descendents. However you may wish to look at multiple lines of descent which would probably cover most of what you are looking for. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ >From: "June Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >To: >Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:47:25 +1000 > >Does anyone know if it is possible to print a book that includes everyone >who is in my data base. I have looked at the reports menu and can't see a >report but I may just not be understanding what I am reading. > >Thank you > >June _ Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! http://msnuk.match.com/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.34/679 - Release Date: 10/02/2007 4:08 PM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
You need to isolate every end of the line ancestor, then run multiple lines of descent. Choose, 'do not print duplicates'. How big a DB are we talking. Rich --- June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to print a book > that includes everyone > who is in my data base. I have looked at the reports > menu and can't see a > report but I may just not be understanding what I am > reading. > > Thank you > > June > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy > 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard > Edition. Learn more about these features at > http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable > archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book
June, Not to my knowledge, unless they are all ancestors or descendents. However you may wish to look at multiple lines of descent which would probably cover most of what you are looking for. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: "June Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing a Book Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:47:25 +1000 Does anyone know if it is possible to print a book that includes everyone who is in my data base. I have looked at the reports menu and can't see a report but I may just not be understanding what I am reading. Thank you June _ Click Here To Find Your Perfect Match This Valentines! http://msnuk.match.com/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
