RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hi Wendy, I am also an Australian so am familiar with the Australian certificates etc. I have my Birth's deaths and marriages sources broken up into firstly states and then type eg Births. When I fill in the source detail I add the reference number and also add the persons name on the certificate. This is for my benefit so that when I look at a report I can see easily where the information came from. For example John Brown may have occupation listed five times over 10 years. The sources may have been each of his children's birth certificates. This would print out as NSW Birth Certificate of Jason Brown 1868/77221. I find this easier as I am not a numbers person rather a name person. I also have the British census sources broken up into years. For American census sources I have broken them up into States then years. One thing to remember with family history is that your information and sources will grow and one method that is good when you don't have many certificates, is not so good 10 years down the track. The challenge is to have a master source list that is manageable but so that it is easily for you find someone/or people who are attached to a source later one. Good Luck Regards Anne NSW Hi Wendy, With New South Wales (and all other Australian States) I have Master Sources as per the following examples: Vic BMD (Shows in reports in full as *The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, a division of the Department of Justice*). I place the Registration No in the Source Detail together with the notation *copy on file* if I have purchased a copy. NSW BMD (Shows in full as *Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages - New South Wales*). I record the regn no in the Source Detail and note if I have purchased a copy. Qld BMD (Reads in full as *Queensland State Government, Department of Justice and Attorney-General, Historical Birth, Marriage and Death Records (1829-1914)*. Again I record the regn no in the Source Detail and the notation indicating whether or not I hold a copy. This gives sufficient information for anyone wanting to carry out further research. The source detail field can be withheld from reports/GEDCOMs, or given with reports, according to your wishes. With Census records for UK and USA: I keep a copy of the relevant census sheet in My Pictures in a folder called *UK & US Census* with subfolders for each year (subfolders are named *1851 UK Census*, or *1910 US Census*, etc) and each census saved is given a file name like *BLOGGS, Joseph & family* or *BLOGGS, Mary, widow of Joseph, & family*). I also transcribe the *full* census entry for the family and copy it into the notes section of each member of the family recorded on the census (thank goodness for post-it notes!). Sounds a bit long winded, but it works for me. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hello Janis, I was reading on another site through the week about sourcing and one suggestion was, say with Australian, Nsw births deaths marriages, to have them under one Master Source of NSW Registry of Births, Deaths, Marriages and then in the detail explain which vital it was [birth, death or marriage]. At the time it seemed to be a "tidier" way of doing things but after reading the replies to my post I have to agree with you that "lumping" is not the way to go, particulary when it comes to searching. So I've shelved that idea but will be going back through my list to make certain that there is some continuity in the Master Source List Names and keep the Nsw Births, Deaths and Marriages separate as with the British Census which I currently have listed in years. This year was the year for going back and "housekeeping". So getting a grip on a sourcing method is my first project.don't want to have do this again :o) Will take your advice and do some more research into the topic. Wendy [AU] Janis Gilmore wrote: Wendy, I don't know what has motivated you to wish to lump your sources to such an extreme extent, but I suggest that you sleep on it for a week or so and do some reading about sourcing in the meantime. I do not at all mean to trivialize your motivation, just to help head off some future time-consuming effort in another reorganization. After 25 years of genealogy, it is only in the last year that I have understood that it is really ALL about sourcing. The documents that we review are all there is, and the more time we spend fully detailing them, the stronger our life work will be. I also continue to urge further education in the field, through NGS, IGHR, NIGR, and other entities. They help immeasurably to elevate our view of the task at hand. Best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do. We are all in it because we love it. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC & Seattle, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:57 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Wendy, I cannot comment on NSW but regarding your question on the UK census although am unreconstructured lumper myself my recommendation is don't lump the years together. I would love to split mine but cannot see an easy way of doing it. It may not affect you, but I simply have far too many censuses in the same source. I cannot see an eay way of lumping them either. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hello Maureen.thank you for the suggestions. I have mainly NSW with a few Qld and a couple of NT sources. After reading the replies to my post I may have to rethink my desire to lump the stuff together. :o)) Wendy [AU] Maureen Chambers wrote: Hi Wendy, With New South Wales (and all other Australian States) I have Master Sources as per the following examples: Vic BMD (Shows in reports in full as *The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, a division of the Department of Justice*). I place the Registration No in the Source Detail together with the notation *copy on file* if I have purchased a copy. NSW BMD (Shows in full as *Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages - New South Wales*). I record the regn no in the Source Detail and note if I have purchased a copy. Qld BMD (Reads in full as *Queensland State Government, Department of Justice and Attorney-General, Historical Birth, Marriage and Death Records (1829-1914)*. Again I record the regn no in the Source Detail and the notation indicating whether or not I hold a copy. This gives sufficient information for anyone wanting to carry out further research. The source detail field can be withheld from reports/GEDCOMs, or given with reports, according to your wishes. With Census records for UK and USA: I keep a copy of the relevant census sheet in My Pictures in a folder called *UK & US Census* with subfolders for each year (subfolders are named *1851 UK Census*, or *1910 US Census*, etc) and each census saved is given a file name like *BLOGGS, Joseph & family* or *BLOGGS, Mary, widow of Joseph, & family*). I also transcribe the *full* census entry for the family and copy it into the notes section of each member of the family recorded on the census (thank goodness for post-it notes!). Sounds a bit long winded, but it works for me. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
A few times in the past, I have gotten in a mess by having lumped the sources together with the detail differentiating among them. Having more Master Sources works for me. At a glance I know what I have and don't need to put as much in detail. But YMMV!:-) Warmest Regards, Donna Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Wendy, I don't know what has motivated you to wish to lump your sources to such an extreme extent, but I suggest that you sleep on it for a week or so and do some reading about sourcing in the meantime. I do not at all mean to trivialize your motivation, just to help head off some future time-consuming effort in another reorganization. After 25 years of genealogy, it is only in the last year that I have understood that it is really ALL about sourcing. The documents that we review are all there is, and the more time we spend fully detailing them, the stronger our life work will be. I also continue to urge further education in the field, through NGS, IGHR, NIGR, and other entities. They help immeasurably to elevate our view of the task at hand. Best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do. We are all in it because we love it. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC & Seattle, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:57 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Wendy, I cannot comment on NSW but regarding your question on the UK census although am unreconstructured lumper myself my recommendation is don't lump the years together. I would love to split mine but cannot see an easy way of doing it. It may not affect you, but I simply have far too many censuses in the same source. I cannot see an eay way of lumping them either. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +1100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing > > Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) > I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate > Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw > Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales > BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. > Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British > Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just > British Census. > My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting > meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > > Wendy [AU] > > > _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Thanks, Cathy. I appreciate hearing how you handle this. I have both US and British census. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Hi Mary, I'm not dealing with US Censuses. The British Censuses are referenced for the whole country in a very logical (British?) way. No need to divide by county. Besides some census districts/pieces cross county boundaries as Registration Districts do, so it would be bringing in an artifical division with no relevance to the census. I would divide off Scotland if I was fortunate enough to have any Scottish censuses as they're available through a different site. Unfortunately my Scots ancestors left before Censuses and I can't find their relatives. Similarly, before all the Censuses were available at Ancestry I made a Census source for each Census film I viewed. I'm in process of combining them as I get the better images from Ancestry. My principle for dividing sources is one database, one Master Source. Cathy At 08:21 AM 29/01/2008, you wrote: >Cathy, > >Just curious - do you have one Master Source for each year of the census >regardless of location or do you break them down by state, state/county >or state/county/town? > >Mary > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:58 AM >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing > >Hi Wendy, > >Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of >a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail. >If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail >whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not >have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference >numbers that won't make complete sense. > >RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census >year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source >is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a >particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census >event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've >added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on >that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but >it's a double search instead of a simple "Show List" > >Cathy > > >At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote: > > >Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) > >I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate > >Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw > >Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South > >Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual >source. > >Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the > >British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off > >under just British Census. > >My question is...how do I go back and change all that without > >getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > > > >Wendy [AU] > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hi Mary, I'm not dealing with US Censuses. The British Censuses are referenced for the whole country in a very logical (British?) way. No need to divide by county. Besides some census districts/pieces cross county boundaries as Registration Districts do, so it would be bringing in an artifical division with no relevance to the census. I would divide off Scotland if I was fortunate enough to have any Scottish censuses as they're available through a different site. Unfortunately my Scots ancestors left before Censuses and I can't find their relatives. Similarly, before all the Censuses were available at Ancestry I made a Census source for each Census film I viewed. I'm in process of combining them as I get the better images from Ancestry. My principle for dividing sources is one database, one Master Source. Cathy At 08:21 AM 29/01/2008, you wrote: Cathy, Just curious - do you have one Master Source for each year of the census regardless of location or do you break them down by state, state/county or state/county/town? Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Hi Wendy, Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail. If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference numbers that won't make complete sense. RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but it's a double search instead of a simple "Show List" Cathy At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote: >Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) >I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate >Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw >Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South >Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. >Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the >British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off >under just British Census. >My question is...how do I go back and change all that without >getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > >Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hi Wendy, With New South Wales (and all other Australian States) I have Master Sources as per the following examples: Vic BMD (Shows in reports in full as *The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, a division of the Department of Justice*). I place the Registration No in the Source Detail together with the notation *copy on file* if I have purchased a copy. NSW BMD (Shows in full as *Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages - New South Wales*). I record the regn no in the Source Detail and note if I have purchased a copy. Qld BMD (Reads in full as *Queensland State Government, Department of Justice and Attorney-General, Historical Birth, Marriage and Death Records (1829-1914)*. Again I record the regn no in the Source Detail and the notation indicating whether or not I hold a copy. This gives sufficient information for anyone wanting to carry out further research. The source detail field can be withheld from reports/GEDCOMs, or given with reports, according to your wishes. With Census records for UK and USA: I keep a copy of the relevant census sheet in My Pictures in a folder called *UK & US Census* with subfolders for each year (subfolders are named *1851 UK Census*, or *1910 US Census*, etc) and each census saved is given a file name like *BLOGGS, Joseph & family* or *BLOGGS, Mary, widow of Joseph, & family*). I also transcribe the *full* census entry for the family and copy it into the notes section of each member of the family recorded on the census (thank goodness for post-it notes!). Sounds a bit long winded, but it works for me. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Cathy, Just curious - do you have one Master Source for each year of the census regardless of location or do you break them down by state, state/county or state/county/town? Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Hi Wendy, Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail. If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference numbers that won't make complete sense. RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but it's a double search instead of a simple "Show List" Cathy At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote: >Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) >I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate >Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw >Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South >Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. >Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the >British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off >under just British Census. >My question is...how do I go back and change all that without >getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > >Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Yes I can see there can be problems lumping sources together for the sake of tidying up the list, particularly with large databases. I need to rethink and probably renaming some to get some uniformity may be a better way to go. Wendy RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: I did it by creating the 15 US Federal Census Source Templates, and the various other countries I had already accumulated, making the 'Source Type' as wanted. (example: 1790 Census US, 1801 Census NOR, 1881 Census CAN. Then I found everyone that had ANY census using the Source list, and trudged through the list. for my 23000 people it took about 5 weeks to finish, but I am so glad it is done. I guess I reccomend getting rid of LUMPS. Now I can get a list of ALL in a census year without having to scroll the Source lists over and over, tagging and untagging. One of the ways I used my tools is, using ctrl-copy and paste to change the 'Type'. Rich in LA CA --- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wendy, I cannot comment on NSW but regarding your question on the UK census although am unreconstructured lumper myself my recommendation is don't lump the years together. I would love to split mine but cannot see an easy way of doing it. It may not affect you, but I simply have far too many censuses in the same source. I cannot see an eay way of lumping them either. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:07:16 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > .I found everyone that had ANY > census using the Source list, and trudged through the > list. for my 23000 people it took about 5 weeks to > finish, but I am so glad it is done. > Rich in LA CA Rich, Exactly :-) (with resignation!) _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
I did it by creating the 15 US Federal Census Source Templates, and the various other countries I had already accumulated, making the 'Source Type' as wanted. (example: 1790 Census US, 1801 Census NOR, 1881 Census CAN. Then I found everyone that had ANY census using the Source list, and trudged through the list. for my 23000 people it took about 5 weeks to finish, but I am so glad it is done. I guess I reccomend getting rid of LUMPS. Now I can get a list of ALL in a census year without having to scroll the Source lists over and over, tagging and untagging. One of the ways I used my tools is, using ctrl-copy and paste to change the 'Type'. Rich in LA CA --- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wendy, > > I cannot comment on NSW but regarding your question > on the UK census although am unreconstructured > lumper myself my recommendation is don't lump the > years together. I would love to split mine but > cannot see an easy way of doing it. It may not > affect you, but I simply have far too many censuses > in the same source. > > I cannot see an eay way of lumping them either. > > Ron Ferguson > > > _ > > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Blog: Create Your Web Pages > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +1100 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing > > > > Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) > > I now realise that I have made work for myself by > creating separate > > Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, > Nsw Deaths, Nsw > > Marriages...when I should of probably had just one > for New South Wales > > BDM Registry and then added the extra information > for the actual source. > > Another example is that I've created separate > MSourses for the British > > Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been > better off under just > > British Census. > > My question is...how do I go back and change all > that without getting > > meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > > > > Wendy [AU] > > > > > > > > _ > Share what Santa brought you > https://www.mycooluncool.com > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Wendy, I cannot comment on NSW but regarding your question on the UK census although am unreconstructured lumper myself my recommendation is don't lump the years together. I would love to split mine but cannot see an easy way of doing it. It may not affect you, but I simply have far too many censuses in the same source. I cannot see an eay way of lumping them either. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +1100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing > > Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) > I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate > Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw > Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales > BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. > Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British > Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just > British Census. > My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting > meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? > > Wendy [AU] > > > _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Thanks for the suggestions...I've backed up the whole file and about to see what happens by merging the surplus entries. Cathy, you made a good point about the Census, keeping them in their separates years does have it's advantages for doing a search. Tah muchly Wendy [AU] Wendy Lavender wrote: Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Hi Wendy, Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail. If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference numbers that won't make complete sense. RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but it's a double search instead of a simple "Show List" Cathy At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote: Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
Wendy, If you have the Deluxe 6.0 version, you can select the 'Legacy Home' tab. From the Video Training list, select 'Your 12-Step Checklist to Using Legacy (CD2) Preview'. There is a short demonstration on cleaning up Locations. You will find the same procedure works for cleaning up your sources, once you are in the Master Source List. Jane Tripp, Alabama, USA - Original Message - From: "Wendy Lavender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:50 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing
If I understand your question - You can merge Master Sources into one and rename it to whatever you want. There's a large button across the bottom saying "Combine Highlighted Source with Another in the List" After you click that on the Source you want to merge, the button will say "Highlight Destination Source, then Click This Button". You can merge Nsw Births, Deaths and Marriages all into one of them and then change the name to New South Wales BDM Registry. JL Wendy Lavender wrote: Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o) I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual source. Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off under just British Census. My question is...how do I go back and change all that without getting meself in a pickle, please? Can I do that? Wendy [AU] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
