RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Briscoe
I have one male family member who had an illegitimate child who is alive.
But the mother later married someone in the family.  I have now marked
mother and child as Invisible but it does mean that the later marriage to
someone else does not appear.  It's not crucial but just shows how
relationships can get quite complicated!



Martin Briscoe
Fort William
MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS 

 

 

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 Pat,
 
 Let me give you some insight from a beta tester on why 
 invisible status was added. As someone who uses Legacy to 
 prepare data that I publish on a web site, I am very 
 concerned with what I publish. I need to strike a balance 
 between publishing enough so that I contacts when people do 
 Vanity searches for their own name or parent's names. 
 And respecting the complete privacy of people who were kind 
 enough to share their family details but do not want their 
 family published on the Internet.
 





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RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-03 Thread ronald ferguson

Martin,

That should be the case - is it? Why not just make the child invisible - unless 
there are other family problems?


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 I have one male family member who had an illegitimate child who is alive.
 But the mother later married someone in the family. I have now marked
 mother and child as Invisible but it does mean that the later marriage to
 someone else does not appear. It's not crucial but just shows how
 relationships can get quite complicated!



 Martin Briscoe
 Fort William
 MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS





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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

 Pat,

 Let me give you some insight from a beta tester on why
 invisible status was added. As someone who uses Legacy to
 prepare data that I publish on a web site, I am very
 concerned with what I publish. I need to strike a balance
 between publishing enough so that I contacts when people do
 Vanity searches for their own name or parent's names.
 And respecting the complete privacy of people who were kind
 enough to share their family details but do not want their
 family published on the Internet.




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RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Briscoe
I had previously just left out the relationship but decided it is better to
record everything accurately in my personal copy then use Invisible to hide
in copies exported.



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 Martin,
 
 That should be the case - is it? Why not just make the child 
 invisible - unless there are other family problems?





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RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-03 Thread John B. Lisle

Martin,

This situation is where you use private marriage and private 
child-parent relationship.


The relationship between your male family member (father) and the 
mother should be marked as private. Mark his relationship with child 
as private.


As the mother is visible to the family, she should not be marked as 
invisible or private. How to set her relationship with the child is 
based on the visibility of the child.


If the child is living with the mother and visible to the family, 
then let the child's relation to mother not be private and child not 
be invisible or private.


If the child is not visible - eg, was adopted out of the family, then 
it is appropriate to make the child invisible and make the 
relationship between the child and the mother private.


Does this make sense?

john.

At 06:33 AM 7/3/2008, Martin Briscoe wrote:

I have one male family member who had an illegitimate child who is alive.
But the mother later married someone in the family.  I have now marked
mother and child as Invisible but it does mean that the later marriage to
someone else does not appear.  It's not crucial but just shows how
relationships can get quite complicated!



Martin Briscoe
Fort William
MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS






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RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-02 Thread ronald ferguson

Pat,

As it says, in theory everything is shown/printed as though that person never 
existed. In other words there would be no place to put the word Living.


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 Has anyone used the invisible option for some people in their
 database yet? If so, is everything about the person including
 the name, etc., just missing in a printout or is everythng except
 the name missing? Curious why you used it as well rather than
 just marking them living.




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Re: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-02 Thread Jenny M Benson


Pat Jones wrote
Has anyone used the invisible option for some people in their database 
yet?


I hadn't done, but have just tried it, prompted by your question.

If so, is everything about the person including the name, etc., just 
missing in a printout or is everythng except the name missing?


It does just what it says on the tin!  Living people are excluded as if 
they never existed.



Curious why you used it as well rather than just marking them living.


I don't know that I would want to, but I can conceive of circumstances 
where someone would want to create a report to give to someone else 
where a certain person was excluded - for example, someone might not 
want their grandmother to know that their sibling had had an 
illegitimate child.


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RE: [LegacyUG] The new Invisible in Legacy 7

2008-07-02 Thread Martin Briscoe
If you have someone who is born of an illegitimate relationship then if you
just made them private their name could be revealed because of other members
of the family who are visible - in the past deceased parents, children or
spouses of a private or hidden Living person will be visible. 

 

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 Curious why you used it as well rather than just marking them living.
 
 I don't know that I would want to, but I can conceive of 
 circumstances where someone would want to create a report to 
 give to someone else where a certain person was excluded - 
 for example, someone might not want their grandmother to know 
 that their sibling had had an illegitimate child.





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