Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-10 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
He died in 1926, but his stone says 1920.  I suspect, however, that he 
was dead when he was buried.  At least one person has tried to tell me 
to believe the stone, even though I have a family picture of him dated 
1925.  


 Elizabeth C

ronald ferguson wrote:

Interesting! Elizabeth, please put me out of my misery - did he die before or 
after he was buried :-)



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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:00:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

In my case, my grandfather's stone is 6 years different from his death
certificate.

Elizabeth C

Penny Hayes wrote:


Syble, could you clarify for me where, exactly, you explain why you
think the tombstone is in error? I have a situation like that where I
am quite certain that my grandfather's year of death is wrong on his
stone and I'd like to explain how I know it.

Thanks,
Penny

Syble Glasscock wrote:
  

I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have
added numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our
county. I recently started adding in Legacy an Event to the
individual: Burial Records-findagrave, I only source it as
www.findagrave.com , but then in the
notes section of the of the person's Event, I add the findagrave URL
for that particular person.

I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes,
Social Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record
of the tombstone from findagrave, researchers can note the
discrepancies. I really like having a photo of the tombstone, so
this helps to fill in the gaps for that also. I know that the dates
on tombstones are not always correct either, but I still like having
that record, and on one particular individual, (my great grandmother)
I'm made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is
incorrect.
Syble Glasscock



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RE: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread M. Brenzel
I have Find A Grave as a source for burial and put the ID # in the Source
Detail.

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Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
really an event but ...

Opinions?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Valerie Laskowski
Either Create a new Event and keep it there or use the UserID or AFN #
fields, but remember they are only 20 characters long.
Valerie


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Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
really an event but ...

Opinions?

Keith

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Randolph Clark
I use the User ID field for this. For the many without a FindAGrave # I put
their RIN in.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
 and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
 Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
 proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
 research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
 problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
 really an event but ...

 Opinions?

 Keith

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Syble Glasscock

I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have added  
numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our county.   I recently 
started adding in Legacy an Event to the individual:  Burial 
Records-findagrave, I only source it as www.findagrave.com, but then in the 
notes section of the of the person's Event, I add the findagrave URL for that 
particular person.
 
I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes, Social 
Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record of the tombstone 
from findagrave, researchers can note the discrepancies.  I really like having 
a photo of the tombstone, so this helps to fill in the gaps for that also.  I 
know that the dates on tombstones are not always correct either, but I still 
like having that record, and on one particular individual, (my great 
grandmother) I'm made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is 
incorrect.
Syble Glasscock

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From: GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 5:40 PM


Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
really an event but ...

Opinions?

Keith

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Kris
I use a private Find A Grave event and paste the memorial number
there.  It doesn't appear on reports unless I want it too, and it's
easy to see if I have this information for any individual without
having to dig around.  It also makes it a lot easier to find
everyone's memorial numbers if I'm linking families on the FAG site.  

On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:40:14 -0400, you wrote:

 Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
 and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
 Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
 proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
 research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
 problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
 really an event but ...
 
 Opinions?
 
 Keith



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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread GeoSci
Lots of ideas!!  THANKS!  I believe I will go with the burial notes -
that makes sense to me.!

Keith

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ila Eastrle...@centurytel.net wrote:
 I use Find-A-Grave also and was wondering about a user defined ID field.

 Ila East

 GeoSci wrote:

 Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
 and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
 Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
 proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
 research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
 problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
 really an event but ...

 Opinions?

 Keith





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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Connie Sheets

Why would Find-A-Grave ever be entered as an Event?

Find-A-Grave is a source of information, just like a book, a census, an old 
letter written by grandma, or an online database.  In fact, it is an online 
database.

Obviously, people can use Legacy however they like, but I would argue that we 
should strive to think about information about a person separately from the 
sources of that information, otherwise we risk faulty conclusions and a tangled 
mess.

My perhaps not-so-humble opinion, of course g.  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Penny Hayes
Syble, could you clarify for me where, exactly, you explain why you 
think the tombstone is in error?  I have a situation like that where I 
am quite certain that my grandfather's year of death is wrong on his 
stone and I'd like to explain how I know it.


Thanks,
Penny



Syble Glasscock wrote:


I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have 
added  numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our 
county.   I recently started adding in Legacy an Event to the 
individual:  Burial Records-findagrave, I only source it as 
www.findagrave.com http://www.findagrave.com/, but then in the notes 
section of the of the person's Event, I add the findagrave URL for 
that particular person.
 
I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes, 
Social Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record of 
the tombstone from findagrave, researchers can note the 
discrepancies.  I really like having a photo of the tombstone, so this 
helps to fill in the gaps for that also.  I know that the dates on 
tombstones are not always correct either, but I still like having that 
record, and on one particular individual, (my great grandmother) I'm 
made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is incorrect.

Syble Glasscock






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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Kris
Just because this entry field is entitled event doesn't mean, to me,
that I can't make whatever use of it I like.  Find A Grave is a source
of information.  So is the tombstone that is photographed.  That
doesn't mean I have to wade through source citations to find a
memorial number.  

When I share information with other family members in the form of
reports, I don't share things that I use to make my use of the program
easier -- thus the event is private so that I can control where it
appears.  As a matter of fact, I don't know anyone else who is even
using Legacy.  

If you want to split hairs, a lot of the things the event entries
are used for aren't actually events, according to Webster.  But I
don't lose a lot of sleep over it.  

It also depends on exactly what you're using the Legacy program for.
When I create my web pages, I include a link to the FAG memorial page.
About the only way I can find to automatically do this is by creating
an event.  If someone draws a faulty conclusion from that, there's
not much I can do about it.  

On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:58:40 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

 
 Why would Find-A-Grave ever be entered as an Event?
 
 Find-A-Grave is a source of information, just like a book, a census, an old 
 letter written by grandma, or an online database.  In fact, it is an online 
 database.
 
 Obviously, people can use Legacy however they like, but I would argue that we 
 should strive to think about information about a person separately from the 
 sources of that information, otherwise we risk faulty conclusions and a 
 tangled mess.
 
 My perhaps not-so-humble opinion, of course g.  
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Jenny M Benson

Kris wrote
If you want to split hairs, a lot of the things the event entries are 
used for aren't actually events, according to Webster.  But I don't 
lose a lot of sleep over it.


Nor should you!  Legacy actually uses the wording Events/Facts above 
this section in Family View (and quite possibly in other places.) I 
always consider anything I enter there to be either a Fact or an Event, 
although I usually use the generic term Event.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
In my case, my grandfather's stone is 6 years different from his death 
certificate.


  Elizabeth C

Penny Hayes wrote:
Syble, could you clarify for me where, exactly, you explain why you 
think the tombstone is in error?  I have a situation like that where I 
am quite certain that my grandfather's year of death is wrong on his 
stone and I'd like to explain how I know it.


Thanks,
Penny

Syble Glasscock wrote:


I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have 
added  numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our 
county.   I recently started adding in Legacy an Event to the 
individual:  Burial Records-findagrave, I only source it as 
www.findagrave.com http://www.findagrave.com/, but then in the 
notes section of the of the person's Event, I add the findagrave URL 
for that particular person.
 
I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes, 
Social Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record 
of the tombstone from findagrave, researchers can note the 
discrepancies.  I really like having a photo of the tombstone, so 
this helps to fill in the gaps for that also.  I know that the dates 
on tombstones are not always correct either, but I still like having 
that record, and on one particular individual, (my great grandmother) 
I'm made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is 
incorrect.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Syble Glasscock
This is what I've listed as to my conclusion:
1860 Smith County Census: Mary (age 4)
1870 Smith County Census: Mary (age 14)
1880 Smith County Census: Mary (24)
1900 Smith County Census: Mary (55-should be 45)
1910 Smith Co.,Tx. Census: Mary (54)
1920 Smith Co., Tx. Census: Mary (64)
1930 Smith Co., Tx. Census: Mary (74)
Social Security Death Index list her date of birth as 1856 also.
Due to the sequence in ages on these census, and the SS Death Index, the date 
of birth, must have been 1856 instead of 1858 as it is on the tombstone.
 
You may not have this many records to use, but list what you have and try to 
make the most accurate conclusion possible.
Syble Glasscock

--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net wrote:


From: Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 2:00 AM


In my case, my grandfather's stone is 6 years different from his death 
certificate.

      Elizabeth C

Penny Hayes wrote:
 Syble, could you clarify for me where, exactly, you explain why you think the 
 tombstone is in error?  I have a situation like that where I am quite certain 
 that my grandfather's year of death is wrong on his stone and I'd like to 
 explain how I know it.
 
 Thanks,
 Penny
 
 Syble Glasscock wrote:
 
 I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have added  
 numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our county.   I 
 recently started adding in Legacy an Event to the individual:  Burial 
 Records-findagrave, I only source it as www.findagrave.com 
 http://www..findagrave.com/, but then in the notes section of the of the 
 person's Event, I add the findagrave URL for that particular person.
  I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes, Social 
Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record of the tombstone 
from findagrave, researchers can note the discrepancies.  I really like 
having a photo of the tombstone, so this helps to fill in the gaps for that 
also.  I know that the dates on tombstones are not always correct either, but 
I still like having that record, and on one particular individual, (my great 
grandmother) I'm made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is 
incorrect.
 Syble Glasscock
 
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread Sharon Johnson
If you have a picture of the tombstone in Legacy, you could put the ID# with
that. Otherwise, put it under death events.
grandmasharon1...@gmail.com



On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
 and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
 Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
 proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
 research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
 problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
 really an event but ...

 Opinions?

 Keith

 --
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RE: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread ronald ferguson

Interesting! Elizabeth, please put me out of my misery - did he die before or 
after he was buried :-)



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 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:00:48 -0400
 From: drybo...@netreach.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

 In my case, my grandfather's stone is 6 years different from his death
 certificate.

 Elizabeth C

 Penny Hayes wrote:
 Syble, could you clarify for me where, exactly, you explain why you
 think the tombstone is in error? I have a situation like that where I
 am quite certain that my grandfather's year of death is wrong on his
 stone and I'd like to explain how I know it.

 Thanks,
 Penny

 Syble Glasscock wrote:

 I, too am a fan of findagrave, have surveyed two cemeteries, and have
 added numerous other records, and am the county keeper for our
 county. I recently started adding in Legacy an Event to the
 individual: Burial Records-findagrave, I only source it as
 www.findagrave.com , but then in the
 notes section of the of the person's Event, I add the findagrave URL
 for that particular person.

 I've found several dates differing from the State Death Indexes,
 Social Security and or Death Certificates, but with having a record
 of the tombstone from findagrave, researchers can note the
 discrepancies. I really like having a photo of the tombstone, so
 this helps to fill in the gaps for that also. I know that the dates
 on tombstones are not always correct either, but I still like having
 that record, and on one particular individual, (my great grandmother)
 I'm made explanations showing why I believe the date of birth is
 incorrect.
 Syble Glasscock


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