Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry. thought I sent privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Mary Young To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 8:58:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : > That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not > only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people > connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. > > I know many people have good intentions posting their information to > internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to > correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I > said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not > so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the > people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with > sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it > even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. > > Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my > former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when > nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no > information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now > I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet > but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private > collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other > people get this information? > > By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also > purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have > been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and > found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but > Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only > remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor > being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter > was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. > > So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. > Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they > bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Mary Horner > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates > > > Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on > line. ' > > The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and > Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I > do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates > others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is > going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there > to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time > I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what > about all the poor people who don't know better? > Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry, Evert ... but this thread is head "Genealogy Pirates" and seem to have drifted far from Legacy "uploading to Ancestry online family tree". Mary Young 2009/11/4 Evert van Dijken : > In the File menu you'll find "Uploding to Ancestry online family tree". > In menu Internet > Search Internet for current person > Ancestry is > the first in the list of Internet searches > Evert > > 2009/11/4 Mary Young : >> How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? >> Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
In the File menu you'll find "Uploding to Ancestry online family tree". In menu Internet > Search Internet for current person > Ancestry is the first in the list of Internet searches Evert 2009/11/4 Mary Young : > How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? > Mary Young > > > 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : >> That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not >> only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people >> connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. >> >> I know many people have good intentions posting their information to >> internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to >> correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I >> said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not >> so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the >> people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with >> sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it >> even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. >> >> Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my >> former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when >> nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no >> information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now >> I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet >> but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private >> collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other >> people get this information? >> >> By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also >> purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have >> been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and >> found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but >> Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only >> remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor >> being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter >> was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. >> >> So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. >> Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they >> bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >> Behalf Of Mary Horner >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates >> >> >> Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on >> line. ' >> >> The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and >> Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I >> do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates >> others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is >> going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there >> to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time >> I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what >> about all the poor people who don't know better? >> Mary > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell : > That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not > only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people > connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. > > I know many people have good intentions posting their information to > internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to > correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I > said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not > so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the > people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with > sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it > even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. > > Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my > former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when > nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no > information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now > I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet > but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private > collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other > people get this information? > > By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also > purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have > been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and > found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but > Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only > remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor > being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter > was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. > > So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. > Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they > bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Mary Horner > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates > > > Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on > line. ' > > The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and > Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I > do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates > others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is > going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there > to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time > I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what > about all the poor people who don't know better? > Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Mary Horner wrote The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? I'm sorry, it may sound selfish but I don't consider "all the poor people" to be my responsibility. It's up to them to do what I did - learn. (But in my own defence, I must point out that anyone who has been around LUG for more than a few days will know that I am very willing to help others learn and that I am still learning myself.) As to truth being lost in the fiction, I don't think it will be. The original records will presumably still be there. In Legacy we have the option to use Surety Levels from 0 to 4 when citing our Sources. If I read a Church Register and see X I'll probably give it a Surety of 4. If you tell me "I know X is so because I read the Church Register" and I know you and know you are honest and reliable I might give a Surety of 3. If I read on some stranger's website "X is so" I will give it a Surety of 0 until such time as my researches can corroborate. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. I know many people have good intentions posting their information to internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other people get this information? By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line. ' The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
