RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Having thought more about it and seeing your amendment - that's a good idea that I'll adopt. Thanks, Cathy At 04:33 PM 25/01/2008, you wrote: I actually meant [[not Westmorland]] England. My bad. It puts the 'need to fix' in the list together instead of a following question mark. (Chicago?) which gets lost in the lists quickly. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
I actually meant [[not Westmorland]] England. My bad. It puts the 'need to fix' in the list together instead of a following question mark. (Chicago?) which gets lost in the lists quickly. Rich in LA CA --- Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rich, > I haven't been following this closely - but why use > Privacy brackets > around the Not? > > If you use Privacy brackets and then omit Private > data, you are > conveying the opposite of what you know as it > reports as Westmorland, England. > > Cathy > > At 01:25 AM 25/01/2008, you wrote: > > >I should have copied instead of retyping it!!! I > >actually use [[Not]] Westmorland, England > >Rich > > > >--- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > My email had a chunk omitted as presumably it > was > > > considered to be be html somewhere along the > line! > > > > > > It should have said that for instances where it > is > > > only known where a person didn't live, I enter, > eg. > > > "Not Westmorland, England" using single angle > > > brackets instead of the quote marks. The angle > > > brackets making them stand out and sorting them > all > > > together. I had rather hoped that putting them > in > > > quotes might have avoided this - no such luck! > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Hi Rich, I haven't been following this closely - but why use Privacy brackets around the Not? If you use Privacy brackets and then omit Private data, you are conveying the opposite of what you know as it reports as Westmorland, England. Cathy At 01:25 AM 25/01/2008, you wrote: I should have copied instead of retyping it!!! I actually use [[Not]] Westmorland, England Rich --- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard, > > My email had a chunk omitted as presumably it was > considered to be be html somewhere along the line! > > It should have said that for instances where it is > only known where a person didn't live, I enter, eg. > "Not Westmorland, England" using single angle > brackets instead of the quote marks. The angle > brackets making them stand out and sorting them all > together. I had rather hoped that putting them in > quotes might have avoided this - no such luck! > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
I should have copied instead of retyping it!!! I actually use [[Not]] Westmorland, England Rich --- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard, > > My email had a chunk omitted as presumably it was > considered to be be html somewhere along the line! > > It should have said that for instances where it is > only known where a person didn't live, I enter, eg. > "Not Westmorland, England" using single angle > brackets instead of the quote marks. The angle > brackets making them stand out and sorting them all > together. I had rather hoped that putting them in > quotes might have avoided this - no such luck! > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Richard,
My email had a chunk omitted as presumably it was considered to be be html
somewhere along the line!
It should have said that for instances where it is only known where a person
didn't live, I enter, eg. "Not Westmorland, England" using single angle
brackets instead of the quote marks. The angle brackets making them stand out
and sorting them all together. I had rather hoped that putting them in quotes
might have avoided this - no such luck!
(BTW although commonly written "Westmoreland" there is not an "e" in the name.)
Ron Ferguson
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> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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> I have a source name (concept) that is 'not legal': In
> this case I would call the location ', not
> Westmoreland, England, United Kingdom'.
> Rich in LA CA
> --- ronald ferguson wrote:
>
>>
>> Kathy,
>>
>> This is difficult. We have this position with the
>> English 1846 census in that for the place of
>> residence it only gives information as to whether
>> the place of birth was within the county in which
>> the person resided at that date ("Y"), out of county
>> ("N"), Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Foreign.
>>
>> From this census, all I know about my nth
>> g-grandfather is that he was not born in Westmorland
>> but presumably in England. I have recorded this as
>> "". Not entirely satisfactory as "" has other
>> meanings but I think it is clear and the brackets
>> make it stand out - as well as putting all the "out
>> of county" locations together.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:55 -0500
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone
>> information
>>>
>>> ... I have placed it as a source in Legacy for
>>>>his date of death, with a note in my research tab
>>>>about the situation.
>>> It was oral family history that prompted me to
>> go looking to see
>>> if the boy WAS actually buried there. Now that I
>> have confirmed that
>>> he indeed COULD still be roaming Alaska, I am
>> still in a quandary
>>> about where to start looking for him. The only
>> thing I know is where
>>> he ISN'T...and that came from the actual burial
>> Record, not an MI.
>>> How should I record information that I DON'T know
>> ...and the sources
>>> that led me there. Suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
I have a source name (concept) that is 'not legal': In
this case I would call the location ', not
Westmoreland, England, United Kingdom'.
Rich in LA CA
--- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kathy,
>
> This is difficult. We have this position with the
> English 1846 census in that for the place of
> residence it only gives information as to whether
> the place of birth was within the county in which
> the person resided at that date ("Y"), out of county
> ("N"), Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Foreign.
>
> From this census, all I know about my nth
> g-grandfather is that he was not born in Westmorland
> but presumably in England. I have recorded this as
> "". Not entirely satisfactory as "" has other
> meanings but I think it is clear and the brackets
> make it stand out - as well as putting all the "out
> of county" locations together.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
>
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> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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> > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:55 -0500
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone
> information
> >
> > ... I have placed it as a source in Legacy for
> >>his date of death, with a note in my research tab
> >>about the situation.
> > It was oral family history that prompted me to
> go looking to see
> > if the boy WAS actually buried there. Now that I
> have confirmed that
> > he indeed COULD still be roaming Alaska, I am
> still in a quandary
> > about where to start looking for him. The only
> thing I know is where
> > he ISN'T...and that came from the actual burial
> Record, not an MI.
> > How should I record information that I DON'T know
> ...and the sources
> > that led me there. Suggestions?
> >
> >
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Kathy,
This is difficult. We have this position with the English 1846 census in that
for the place of residence it only gives information as to whether the place of
birth was within the county in which the person resided at that date ("Y"), out
of county ("N"), Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Foreign.
>From this census, all I know about my nth g-grandfather is that he was not
>born in Westmorland but presumably in England. I have recorded this as "". Not
>entirely satisfactory as "" has other meanings but I think it is clear and the
>brackets make it stand out - as well as putting all the "out of county"
>locations together.
Ron Ferguson
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:55 -0500
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
>
> ... I have placed it as a source in Legacy for
>>his date of death, with a note in my research tab
>>about the situation.
> It was oral family history that prompted me to go looking to see
> if the boy WAS actually buried there. Now that I have confirmed that
> he indeed COULD still be roaming Alaska, I am still in a quandary
> about where to start looking for him. The only thing I know is where
> he ISN'T...and that came from the actual burial Record, not an MI.
> How should I record information that I DON'T know ...and the sources
> that led me there. Suggestions?
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
... I have placed it as a source in Legacy for his date of death, with a note in my research tab about the situation. It was oral family history that prompted me to go looking to see if the boy WAS actually buried there. Now that I have confirmed that he indeed COULD still be roaming Alaska, I am still in a quandary about where to start looking for him. The only thing I know is where he ISN'T...and that came from the actual burial Record, not an MI. How should I record information that I DON'T know ...and the sources that led me there. Suggestions? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Kathy, I have a MacKay stone in Armadale Scotland that shows the name, birth, and death of an ancestor. However, I do know that he died in South Africa and it was a custom to engrave stones with names in honor of family members who died overseas. So the body may in fact not be there, but the stone is still a good secondary source since South Africa is not replying to me. LOL I have placed it as a source in Legacy for his date of death, with a note in my research tab about the situation. Lucy , Bothell Washington Researching McKay, MacKay, Wares, Campbell --- Kathy Shiell-Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike: > Not necessarily... > I have an ancestor listed on a stone complete with > dates. The only > problem is that the actual burial records say the he > wasn't buried > there...and all the spots are full! > For all I know this guy is still roaming Alaska > looking for gold!The > inscription is nice but can be meaningless. > All I know from oral history is that they found out > in the morning > that he died and had a real good party that > night...and those reports > are probably just as accurate as that Memorial > inscription... > Kathy > ... although finding a tombstone would certainly > serve as a > confirmation of that source! > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Mike: Not necessarily... I have an ancestor listed on a stone complete with dates. The only problem is that the actual burial records say the he wasn't buried there...and all the spots are full! For all I know this guy is still roaming Alaska looking for gold!The inscription is nice but can be meaningless. All I know from oral history is that they found out in the morning that he died and had a real good party that night...and those reports are probably just as accurate as that Memorial inscription... Kathy ... although finding a tombstone would certainly serve as a confirmation of that source! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Susan Daily wrote I usually put the headstone information as the source, but I also list it in the burial notes, not death notes. Whoops - when I said Death Notes I meant Burial Notes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Since many gravestones have information on more than one person thereon, I'd tend to have a master source of Gravestone (or Headstone or Tombstone) and record the information as detail with the photograph attached to the detail. Then I'd attach the source to whatever event I needed to (burial/death/birth/location/) Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Murray Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 3:48 PM To: Legacy Email List Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information Hello List I have copied the detail of a gravestone and I wondered where the best place to record this in Legacy would be. I don't regard it as an event and I want it to read easily when I create my website Regards John Manchester England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
While the gravestone might be a secondary source for info on date of death, etc. I can't see how it can be used a a source for burial. If one is looking for a tombstone in a particular cemetery then something caused them to be there and I think that would be the source... although finding a tombstone would certainly serve as a confirmation of that source! - Original Message From: Mike Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:01:26 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information John Murray wrote: > I have copied the detail of a gravestone and I wondered > where the best place to record this in Legacy would be. > I don't regard it as an event and I want it to read easily > when I create my website I would regard the gravestone and its' transcription as a SOURCE for BURIAL information. The Cemetery would be the REPOSITORY. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
I usually put that info as an adjunct to the burial event. "He was buried blah
blah blah, later a tombstone inscribed ('whatever inscription said') was
placed marking the site".
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
John: I usually put the headstone information as the source, but I also list it in the burial notes, not death notes. If you attach a photo to the burial notes, it will not print in reports. So I also created an event called Headstone which I attach the photo to. Susan On 1/20/08, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or if you don't want to include it only as a Source (with the > transcription in Master Source Text or Detail Text, depending on how you > handle your sources) I would put the transcription into Death Notes. > -- > Jenny M Benson > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
I put a photo of the stone as the preferred picture. Rich in LA CA --- John Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello List > > I have copied the detail of a gravestone and I > wondered where the best place to record this in > Legacy would be. I don't regard it as an event and I > want it to read easily when I create my website > Regards > John > Manchester > England > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Mike Fry wrote I have copied the detail of a gravestone and I wondered where the best place to record this in Legacy would be. I don't regard it as an event and I want it to read easily when I create my website I would regard the gravestone and its' transcription as a SOURCE for BURIAL information. The Cemetery would be the REPOSITORY. Or if you don't want to include it only as a Source (with the transcription in Master Source Text or Detail Text, depending on how you handle your sources) I would put the transcription into Death Notes. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
John Murray wrote: I have copied the detail of a gravestone and I wondered where the best place to record this in Legacy would be. I don't regard it as an event and I want it to read easily when I create my website I would regard the gravestone and its' transcription as a SOURCE for BURIAL information. The Cemetery would be the REPOSITORY. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
