Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Ellen, The marriage can have an Address. Click on the marriage information to open the marriage edit screen. Use the house with telephone icon to enter an address for the marriage. If you want to include those marriage addresses in reports select, if allowed, the Addr for birth, chr, death, bur, marr. on the Report Options Include tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Kramer wrote: I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? It should be consistent. I still would like Legacy to have an even address for marriages just like for other events. Ellen Kramer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Thanks, Brian. The little person lying in front of the house symbol is a telephone! You live and learn. Randy On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: Ellen, The marriage can have an Address. Click on the marriage information to open the marriage edit screen. Use the house with telephone icon to enter an address for the marriage. If you want to include those marriage addresses in reports select, if allowed, the Addr for birth, chr, death, bur, marr. on the Report Options Include tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Kramer wrote: I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? It should be consistent. I still would like Legacy to have an even address for marriages just like for other events. Ellen Kramer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Still trying to grasp the implications, so forgive me. But, if you compress these (residences or military) into one event, then on the chronology, it will be one event spread out over time/ the life of the individual, losing all detail. That matters only if you use the chronology, though. Are you two not using that report/chart? --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I have looked at the Chronology Report and like it. Nevertheless, this report is not the best way to view Residence History. I don't see how this report offers the same advantageous compared to my current approach. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Fair enough. Have you looked at the Chronology Report? I have barely used it, but it seems popular with others to show events during a person's life. Best of luck! --P From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I have not decided what specific reports I will eventually use or need. I like the Chronology Report for various reasons. However, my point was that such a report is not a good way to view Residence History. I believe a Chronology Report is good for plotting larger life events on a chart. Military information is usually a one time Event in one's life, so there is no need to combine such information. I do use WW I and WW II Draft Registration Card information (and other Military records) as a source for various other Events such as Residence History, Occupation, and Physical Description. The only Events where I summarize information in one place is Residence History and sometimes Occupational History. I find that most people want to know about his information, so I like to put it up-front, in one Event, and a click away for viewing and analysis. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:28:52 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Still trying to grasp the implications, so forgive me. But, if you compress these (residences or military) into one event, then on the chronology, it will be one event spread out over time/ the life of the individual, losing all detail. That matters only if you use the chronology, though. Are you two not using that report/chart? --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Thanks Jenny for your comments. I thought I was the only one who thought this was a good idea. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
You may have a better system already, but for all newbies and us lazy oldies, it simplifies things I created as needed in the past. Rich in LA CA From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:47:06 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I have looked at the Chronology Report and like it. Nevertheless, this report is not the best way to view Residence History. I don't see how this report offers the same advantageous compared to my current approach. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Fair enough. Have you looked at the Chronology Report? I have barely used it, but it seems popular with others to show events during a person's life. Best of luck! --P From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Ellen, I think what you're looking for is already there. Open a marriage. Click on the house icon above the Place field. (I'm reading this thread in order, so forgive me if someone has already answered.) --Paula - Original Message From: Kramer kramer...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:57:10 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? It should be consistent. I still would like Legacy to have an even address for marriages just like for other events. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:37:06 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. Shouldn't your last example be... St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA As to your comment about having the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city, that doesn't have to be. If you wanted to, you could reserve a spot for an address by doing something like... , Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA , Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
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Fair enough. Have you looked at the Chronology Report? I have barely used it, but it seems popular with others to show events during a person's life. Best of luck! --P From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I left my street addresses alone even though there are a lot of inconsistencies in them such as the same street number and name, but might be listed as both southeast and northeast. I also put my cemetery names back into locations and also use the burial location (the plus sign to the right of burial date on the Individual's Information page. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Young Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:36 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Think seriously before moving Street addresses from Location. . It is pointless doing all that work unless you get value from your time and effort. So Test the Reports, try re-sorting the Master Location List - is the output meaningful and helping you advance your research? Will you get better results from Location or Address? Everyone has their own slant, depending on their needs and the character of their Family File. I have never used the fields for Address, can't see the point! I like everything in the one List. It is worth reiterating, the Four Field Standard was developed for USA Locations and even there, it is a poor fit. But Legacy is infinitely flexible, and allows 9 ( nine ) fields in Locations. So my Locations include what's in the records, down to the street and exact house number, sometimes 6 or 7 fields. When I Sort or reverse the List, I can see everyone who lived in that street and the house they occupied. Currently, I have 278 Trees in my Family File. Many of these people will be duplicated and/or related, not yet proved. Seeing where they lived - and who were the neighbours - can throw up clues. Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Linda, I agree with you. The only way I could give anyone directions to where my sister is burried is by finding it manually on a map, going to mapping and finding it and entering an address like this: Washington Creek Cemetary, Douglas, Kansas, USA Since it has the 384936.824 N Lat 0952400.676 W Long it pins it right down to the corner of the old country burying ground wher she is resting. Some that have large monuments you can zero right in on the monument. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: Linda McCauley To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I think you misunderstood me. I was trying to say that if you enter the complete address in the location field then that exact place CAN be plotted on the map. That's why I think it's a waste of the mapping feature to enter just the city, county, state, country in the location field. I've even plotted locations that didn't have an actual street address - like [[John Taylor Farm, ]]County, State. I put privacy brackets around the part that wouldn't look right on printed reports but I can still document the exact location of the property. Of course, in that situation, I have to set the marker where it should be on the map. As someone else mentioned (Ron, I think), I keep my locations sorted right to left so that locations in a particular town or county are together in the location master list. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Linda McCauley Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field. Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do something and you can find the way that you like best. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:37:06 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. Shouldn't your last example be... St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA As to your comment about having the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city, that doesn't have to be. If you wanted to, you could reserve a spot for an address by doing something like... , Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA , Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Don't forget another technique that many LUGers have recommended in the past: Harrisburg - St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Dauphin Co, PA, USA This sorts better, unless you prefer to reverse the sort direction from the default. You can get the Geo database to find Harrisburg, then either use that lat/long as a quick approximation for the cemetery or else separately figure out the more exact lat/long. Ward - Original Message - From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:37:06 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. Shouldn't your last example be... St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA As to your comment about having the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city, that doesn't have to be. If you wanted to, you could reserve a spot for an address by doing something like... , Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA , Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? It should be consistent. I still would like Legacy to have an even address for marriages just like for other events. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:37:06 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. Shouldn't your last example be... St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA As to your comment about having the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city, that doesn't have to be. If you wanted to, you could reserve a spot for an address by doing something like... , Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA , Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I agree with you that marriages should have an address field equivalent to other events. I use the convention street/city/(state or county)/country rather than city/county/state/country. In the street position I may put eg a hospital or cemetery title. In Australia we do not have counties and local government areas (shires) are not generally used in addresses. Most of my earlier research is in Britain where there are no states so that fits easily into my convention also. I do not see any point in splitting addresses into two parts and prefer to keep them complete. I guess it's horses for courses. Cheers Charlie - Original Message - From: Kramer kramer...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? It should be consistent. I still would like Legacy to have an even address for marriages just like for other events. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:37:06 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. Shouldn't your last example be... St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA As to your comment about having the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city, that doesn't have to be. If you wanted to, you could reserve a spot for an address by doing something like... , Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA , Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.92/2364 - Release Date: 09/11/09 17:51:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:57:10 -0400, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote: I agree, Dennis, but isn't city/county/state/country the accepted way of doing the location? I'm not sure it's accepted everywhere. Anyway, I was just pointing out one option. If one wanted to, I don't think having address,city,county,state,country (and leaving the address empty when not applicable) would be a problem. That's the way that I've done it for many years. Also what is the purpose of the event address if you used your option? I don't know. I generally don't use addresses except for contact info. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I don't like it in the address field either. It's handy to have the address associated with the cemetery, but I'm thinking of having it in both places or just remove it from addresses despite what that video says. I don't like that when you look at a person's data you don't see what cemetery they are buried in. Unfortunately, I just converted over 200 of them and will have to revert back. I would do a restore, but I don't know what else I did since then so I'll just do it manually. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Moyer Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I agree with Ron, Jenny and Dennis. I spent many hours converting my locations so the cemetery etc was in the address field, and I now regret having done so. I'm slowly working my way thru thousands of addresses to change it back again so the address is in the location field. Mary One Up the Competition Earn your MBA from Post University. Free textbooks for new students! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=207Y1y9cFd2BcSXlLX3mXwAAJz0yh- brJvTNYnbQ7UydqFV0AAQFAKRwnT4AEiFZAA== Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Bill, An entry like this: 3553 SW Adams Street, Peoria, Peoria, Illinois, USA will take you directly to the location that I used to live at in the 1930's. It wont show the house, because it don't exist any more, and your notes can show name changes. The street was called S. Adams then. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location ks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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That's what I'm thinking. It's best to use the original address not the new one like FTM wants you to do and I never did that. Because you will need the original address for searches. Who really cares what's there now? At least I don't unless I want to do a before and after. I just have a lot of addresses that have SW and NW (examples) for the same street number and name. I'm very hesitant to change them because they are listed that way in records. DC streets always were a mess and still are. I'm not going to convert my addresses in the Place list to exclude street numbers and names to just city and state. To me that is not useful. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Art Seddon Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, An entry like this: 3553 SW Adams Street, Peoria, Peoria, Illinois, USA will take you directly to the location that I used to live at in the 1930's. It wont show the house, because it don't exist any more, and your notes can show name changes. The street was called S. Adams then. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location ks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Bill, I think you misunderstood me. I was trying to say that if you enter the complete address in the location field then that exact place CAN be plotted on the map. That's why I think it's a waste of the mapping feature to enter just the city, county, state, country in the location field. I've even plotted locations that didn't have an actual street address - like [[John Taylor Farm, ]]County, State. I put privacy brackets around the part that wouldn't look right on printed reports but I can still document the exact location of the property. Of course, in that situation, I have to set the marker where it should be on the map. As someone else mentioned (Ron, I think), I keep my locations sorted right to left so that locations in a particular town or county are together in the location master list. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Linda McCauley Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field. Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do something and you can find the way that you like best. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Bill, As I have previously mentioned, it is standard practice, or at least the most common practice, to record the address as that at the time of the event. I have, for example, in my records, Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England and Saddleworth, Lancashire, England both locations being the same but after a shift in the county boundary. Both are correct at their respective times. I have a note to say they are the same place. I agree that it might look messy, but it is accurate, and as far as I am concerned that is the important point. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:23:08 -0400 That's what I'm thinking. It's best to use the original address not the new one like FTM wants you to do and I never did that. Because you will need the original address for searches. Who really cares what's there now? At least I don't unless I want to do a before and after. I just have a lot of addresses that have SW and NW (examples) for the same street number and name. I'm very hesitant to change them because they are listed that way in records. DC streets always were a mess and still are. I'm not going to convert my addresses in the Place list to exclude street numbers and names to just city and state. To me that is not useful. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Art Seddon Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, An entry like this: 3553 SW Adams Street, Peoria, Peoria, Illinois, USA will take you directly to the location that I used to live at in the 1930's. It wont show the house, because it don't exist any more, and your notes can show name changes. The street was called S. Adams then. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location ks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I feel the same way about accuracy and recording locations as they were at that specific time in history. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:13 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, As I have previously mentioned, it is standard practice, or at least the most common practice, to record the address as that at the time of the event. I have, for example, in my records, Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England and Saddleworth, Lancashire, England both locations being the same but after a shift in the county boundary. Both are correct at their respective times. I have a note to say they are the same place. I agree that it might look messy, but it is accurate, and as far as I am concerned that is the important point. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:23:08 -0400 That's what I'm thinking. It's best to use the original address not the new one like FTM wants you to do and I never did that. Because you will need the original address for searches. Who really cares what's there now? At least I don't unless I want to do a before and after. I just have a lot of addresses that have SW and NW (examples) for the same street number and name. I'm very hesitant to change them because they are listed that way in records. DC streets always were a mess and still are. I'm not going to convert my addresses in the Place list to exclude street numbers and names to just city and state. To me that is not useful. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Art Seddon Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, An entry like this: 3553 SW Adams Street, Peoria, Peoria, Illinois, USA will take you directly to the location that I used to live at in the 1930's. It wont show the house, because it don't exist any more, and your notes can show name changes. The street was called S. Adams then. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location ks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I have the Deluxe version 7 on a windows XP machine (Dell 9200 Laptop). I entered numerous different events made sure Show Events was checked under options, but none of the events show up under the chronology tab. Even my marriage doesn't show up. Just the children. I know this was working better before. I already ran the Check/Repair with no issues found. Any ideas? Kirstin RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: That is what the Chronology tab is for. It is in Delixe. From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:48:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Ron: Thanks for responding. My main point was that there is no single place in Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors. I believe that this information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues. Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an broad Event, such as Residence History. In one click on your mouse or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. You can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc. Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story. It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all could see a migration pattern plotting chart. It would be also interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members information. Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history. Any thoughts? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons
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There are choice tabs hiding in the Chronology setup areas, and other places. They may be marked private elsewhere. I won't tell how many times I 'must have changed it and forgot'. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:19:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I have the Deluxe version 7 on a windows XP machine (Dell 9200 Laptop). I entered numerous different events made sure Show Events was checked under options, but none of the events show up under the chronology tab. Even my marriage doesn't show up. Just the children. I know this was working better before. I already ran the Check/Repair with no issues found. Any ideas? Kirstin RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: That is what the Chronology tab is for. It is in Delixe. From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:48:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Ron: Thanks for responding. My main point was that there is no single place in Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors. I believe that this information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues. Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an broad Event, such as Residence History. In one click on your mouse or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. You can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc. Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story. It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all could see a migration pattern plotting chart. It would be also interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members information. Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history. Any thoughts? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Alan, if you put the info in the location field, your location master list will look like: Easton, Lehigh Co, PA, USA Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA, USA St. Luke's Cemetery/867 Mervin Street, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, USA You will have the Cemetery or Street address in the place of the city and everything else moved out from there. It will be difficult to merge things and have things consistent. I use the Event Address to save that info. However, there is no way to note the Church name and address in the Marriage view unless it is put in as a marriage event. I wish that were changed. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Alan Jones wrote: When I used FTM I put my addresses like this with the street/ cemetery, city, county, state, USA. Then when i converted to Legacy I read and watched the videos and decided i should do it how Legacy does and stopped putting the street or cemetery name in the description. I slowly started moving existing entries taking out the street address or cemetery line in the location field and moving it to and address. I am not sure I like the output. Can anyone especially the Legacy people who suggest not putting in the street/cemetery info in the location field give me some things I need watch out for or reasons NOT put the street/cemetery in the field? I am thinking of going back the other way as I see so many others doing this. What are the issues with putting all the info in the location field? I am not trying to give anyone a hard time just trying to understand the Pros and Cons especially before switching back. I would appreciate any and all constructive comments pro and con thanks Alan Art Seddon wrote: Bill, An entry like this: 3553 SW Adams Street, Peoria, Peoria, Illinois, USA will take you directly to the location that I used to live at in the 1930's. It wont show the house, because it don't exist any more, and your notes can show name changes. The street was called S. Adams then. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location ks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Bill, Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field. Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do something and you can find the way that you like best. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
William H. Boswell wrote I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. If I've seen that tutorial I have forgotten what is said on this subject. When I first started using Legacy I put addresses into the Address fields and Locations into the Place fields because that was obviously what I was supposed to do. However I found a lot of disadvantages in doing this and Ron Ferguson kept saying he puts everything in the Place fields and has no problems. I very much respect Ron's opinions and advice so I no longer use the Address fields and am gradually moving any Addresses I had previously entered into the appropriate Place fields. If someone knows of any easy/quick way to do what you want to do, doubtless they will be along to tell you soon. However, if I were you I'd have second thoughts about whether you really want to do that! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I reccomend going to the Master Location List, find a cemetery, choose show people, tag all with a clean tag. Then add the burial address (which you did cut and paste for), and change the location on that person. It takes a while, ut I got fast at it after a while. Rich in LA CA From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com To: Legacy Family Tree List legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:54:00 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:45:14 +0100, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: However, if I were you I'd have second thoughts about whether you really want to do that! I second Jenny's comments. I put cemetery names in the burial location field because I like the way it reads in reports. Try it both ways on a person or two and run some reports, create some web pages, etc. Then you can decide which you like better. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I think I'm going to leave them alone. I only converted a handful of them and will move them back. The other thing I just realized is that I have conflicts with addresses. For instance, in DC there are the four quadrants (NW, SW, SE, NE). I have exact house and street numbers that use a SW and SE for example. I am very reluctant to check them out online and merge them for a very important reason: doing so may not give me accurate results when searching records online. Also I have some addresses where the city name changed. If I merge to what is current now, I could possibly miss records that list the old city name. I know that Legacy has the Geo thing that is quite complex and will resolve some of these and the addresses I have listed could be typos from obituaries which I have all of digitally. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Bill, I am not familiar with the details of USA addresses, old or new, but most of us enter the address/location as it was at the time the record where one found it was made. Thus, one place may have a few names. Where necessary the Event Notes can be used to clarify these. I am not a regular user of the GeoLocation facility, only using it for checking locations, but please note that it uses modern addresses only. Since you are to leave the address detail in the Location Fields, can I suggest that you go to ViewMaster ListsLocationSort and set the Sort Direction to Right to Left. This makes it easy to look through the locations to find any you may be looking for. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:49:35 -0400 I think I'm going to leave them alone. I only converted a handful of them and will move them back. The other thing I just realized is that I have conflicts with addresses. For instance, in DC there are the four quadrants (NW, SW, SE, NE). I have exact house and street numbers that use a SW and SE for example. I am very reluctant to check them out online and merge them for a very important reason: doing so may not give me accurate results when searching records online. Also I have some addresses where the city name changed. If I merge to what is current now, I could possibly miss records that list the old city name. I know that Legacy has the Geo thing that is quite complex and will resolve some of these and the addresses I have listed could be typos from obituaries which I have all of digitally. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
The only thing about doing it that way is that I'm afraid I will add duplicates. These people already have sources and citations with notes so I don't want to create new citations if that's what you're talking about. I still can't figure out where to use the tag feature. I wanted to list all the cemeteries I tagged, but I don't see any option to select only tagged people or items. I just ordered the PDF manual for this program, but unfortunately I might have to wait until tomorrow to get it. I'm used to immediate downloads. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I reccomend going to the Master Location List, find a cemetery, choose show people, tag all with a clean tag. Then add the burial address (which you did cut and paste for), and change the location on that person. It takes a while, ut I got fast at it after a while. Rich in LA CA -- From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com To: Legacy Family Tree List legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:54:00 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
And I ditto these comments from Ron. This is the same approach that I adopted quite awhile ago. Mary -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Thanks for the tips. I really don't like the mapping feature anyway because, as you said, you can't plot the entire house number and street. I really don't care about the city unless to just verify that it ever existed. I am not going to move the addresses, but already moved a few cemetery names--one for more than 200 people buried there. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Linda McCauley Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, Before you jump into changing everything, let me recommend that you enter a few both ways then run some test reports and web pages (if you are going to create a website) to see how they look to you. Also check out how the information displays within Legacy - especially the mapping feature. I prefer to have the full address in the location field and also include the cemetery name in the burial location field. Others on this list do the same. It seems to me a terrible waste of the mapping feature to only plot a town when you could plot the exact location. As far as I know, entering a full address or a cemetery name in the location field does not cause any problems. One of the things I like about Legacy is that there is often more than one way to do something and you can find the way that you like best. Linda On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there now. Multiple Questions on this one: 1) I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you can't? 2) Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them. 3) Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item 2. 4) Master List Location list: only city and state? I'm finding this very confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF manual then read the entire thing. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Ron: Thanks for responding. My main point was that there is no single place in Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors. I believe that this information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues. Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an broad Event, such as Residence History. In one click on your mouse or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. You can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc. Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story. It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all could see a migration pattern plotting chart. It would be also interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members information. Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history. Any thoughts? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Mike: I believe you can accomplish the migration patterns for an individual using Legacy as follows: 1. Place a Resident event for the individual for each resident location, e.g., at college, 1st job, 2nd job, etc -- I have about 15 resident events for myself for each location that I have lived at - be sure to include the city, county, state, country location in the resident event 2. Then View the Chronology Tab and it will display the time history of a person very nicely -- this provides a 1 or 2 page summary of a persons life 3. You can also map an individual and it will map all of these resident event locations during the persons life. When I 1st started using Legacy, I didn't use event, but I now place Census events, resident events, and others for each person so I can use the Chronology reporting capability and the mapping capability. Try this for yourself in your database, you might like it. ___ Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com - On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:48 PM, michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.comwrote: Ron: Thanks for responding. My main point was that there is no single place in Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors. I believe that this information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues. Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an broad Event, such as Residence History. In one click on your mouse or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. You can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc. Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story. It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all could see a migration pattern plotting chart. It would be also interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members information. Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history. Any thoughts? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) -- *From:* ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
That is what the Chronology tab is for. It is in Delixe. From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:48:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Ron: Thanks for responding. My main point was that there is no single place in Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors. I believe that this information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues. Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an broad Event, such as Residence History. In one click on your mouse or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. You can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc. Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story. It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all could see a migration pattern plotting chart. It would be also interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members information. Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history. Any thoughts? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where it says Place in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not the Address Fields in the Address Book. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Bill, I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this one! Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from England). Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the Location Field. Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400 I know
