Re: [LegacyUG] Location vs. Address and Lat/Lon side effect(s)
I entered a problem ticket, and received some more info. on this... Exporting using the "Legacy" format option does include MAP, LATI, and LONG for places. So, my statement that getting the data back out is wrong, and I stand corrected. However, the way they come back out is via some sort of grouping at the bottom of the file under a Legacy specific custom tag called _PLAC_DEFN. Custom tags are of zero value to applications other than Legacy, so the problem still exists. Not getting the data back or getting the data back in an unusable form - they're the same as far as this issue is concerned. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
stan megraw wrote: > > Leo wrote: > >> Hi Stan, >> >> You will likely get lots of different replies to this problem, when >> I have unknow parents I use a ? for the given name and also for the >> surname, a lot of researchers do not like this, but its what I >> choose to use. >> >> As there is no immediate fix in the works, you will have to try to >> come up with a compromise that will work for you and that you are >> happy with. >> >> If you have two known brothers, Frank and Robert Smith, but you do >> not know their parents names, you are quite safe in deducing that >> their father's surname is Smith. >> >> Have you considered entering their father's name as (given name >> (Mr.) and surname (Smith); now enter Mr. Smith's wife as give name >> (Mrs.) and surname (Smith), without the ( ). >> >> You can also give Mrs. Smith an AKA as Unknown, Unknown or ? ?, at >> least until you learn their correct names. >> >> You can play with your own combination until you find a solution >> that will satisfy you. >> >> Myself I would not unlink, if you do unlink make sure that you do a >> backup first just incase there are siblings that may become >> disconnected. >> >> Leo > > Hi Leo > > Thanks for your reply. > > As Ron pointed out there is supposed to be an option to leave the > parent's name blank, but it's not working. I would rather not have to > work around this bug, but to have it fixed and the option working the > way it should be. > > Stan Stan, As you have probably realised, I totally agree. It worked perfectly until an update only a few months back, which is when I first raised the matter with Legacy. I refuse point blank to have possible (known) inaccuracies in my published data and will not publish work arounds in the form of "?" etc. which I consider to look very amateurish when used solely to overcome the inadequacies of a program. They do have the place in reports, but that is not one of them! Meanwhile, I will have to continue to jump through hoops to remove them; I am far from happy that this problem has not yet been rectified. Ron Ferguson _ Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
Leo wrote: > Hi Stan, > > You will likely get lots of different replies to this problem, when I have > unknow parents I use a ? for the given name and also for the surname, a lot > of researchers do not like this, but its what I choose to use. > > As there is no immediate fix in the works, you will have to try to come up > with a compromise that will work for you and that you are happy with. > > If you have two known brothers, Frank and Robert Smith, but you do not know > their parents names, you are quite safe in deducing that their father's > surname is Smith. > > Have you considered entering their father's name as (given name (Mr.) and > surname (Smith); now enter Mr. Smith's wife as give name (Mrs.) and surname > (Smith), without the ( ). > > You can also give Mrs. Smith an AKA as Unknown, Unknown or ? ?, at least > until you learn their correct names. > > You can play with your own combination until you find a solution that will > satisfy you. > > Myself I would not unlink, if you do unlink make sure that you do a backup > first just incase there are siblings that may become disconnected. > > Leo Hi Leo Thanks for your reply. As Ron pointed out there is supposed to be an option to leave the parent's name blank, but it's not working. I would rather not have to work around this bug, but to have it fixed and the option working the way it should be. Stan _ Take your contacts everywhere http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
Hi Stan, You will likely get lots of different replies to this problem, when I have unknow parents I use a ? for the given name and also for the surname, a lot of researchers do not like this, but its what I choose to use. As there is no immediate fix in the works, you will have to try to come up with a compromise that will work for you and that you are happy with. If you have two known brothers, Frank and Robert Smith, but you do not know their parents names, you are quite safe in deducing that their father's surname is Smith. Have you considered entering their father's name as (given name (Mr.) and surname (Smith); now enter Mr. Smith's wife as give name (Mrs.) and surname (Smith), without the ( ). You can also give Mrs. Smith an AKA as Unknown, Unknown or ? ?, at least until you learn their correct names. You can play with your own combination until you find a solution that will satisfy you. Myself I would not unlink, if you do unlink make sure that you do a backup first just incase there are siblings that may become disconnected. Leo > From: smeg...@hotmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s) > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:21 -0400 > > > > I have a number of individuals where one or both of the parents are not > known. In the Descendant Report, the text reads "son of Unknown and Unknown". > I know I can correct this by unlinking the child for the unknown parent(s). > But I have 2 questions: > > 1. If I know the father, but not the mother, is it possible to correct "son > of Robert Smith and Unknown" without unlinking the father and then re-linking > him? > > 2. Since I have a number of these, is there a way in Legacy to unlink many at > once? > > Stan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Step 165 of 164
I've never bothered with watching the numbers in the progress bar when one chooses the routine File Maintenance Check/Repair but this morning I watched the numbers whizz by. There were to be a total of 164 steps. Gee, imagine my surprise when it finished and proudly claimed it had completed 165 of 164 steps. Apparently there are 3 types of programmers working for Millennia: those that understand fractions and those that don't. Brian in CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
Ron wrote: > Check that under Customise>Options>Data Format and make sure that you have > "just leave blank" for Word for Blank Records. > > Now that is what you should do, but as I've pointed out to Legacy many times > there is a bug and it does not work. It is a pain in the neck and also > affects webpages, so all you can do for reports is to have 3 runs through a > word processor to get rid of all of them, Use search and replace in your WP > to delete " and unknown", then "unknown and " and then ""unknown" do not > use quotes but please note the spaces. Similarly use an html editor for > webpages. > > In my view this is an important bug, which ruins reports and webpages, or > causes quite a bit of extra work. Quite unsatisfactory. > > Unlinking will not work as you will lose your descendants. > > Ron Ferguson Many thanks Ron. Maybe someone from Legacy could comment on whether this bug is being addressed. Stan _ Stay in touch. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
stan megraw wrote: > I have a number of individuals where one or both of the parents are > not known. In the Descendant Report, the text reads "son of Unknown > and Unknown". I know I can correct this by unlinking the child for > the unknown parent(s). But I have 2 questions: > > 1. If I know the father, but not the mother, is it possible to > correct "son of Robert Smith and Unknown" without unlinking the > father and then re-linking him? > > 2. Since I have a number of these, is there a way in Legacy to unlink > many at once? > > Stan Stan, Check that under Customise>Options>Data Format and make sure that you have "just leave blank" for Word for Blank Records. Now that is what you should do, but as I've pointed out to Legacy many times there is a bug and it does not work. It is a pain in the neck and also affects webpages, so all you can do for reports is to have 3 runs through a word processor to get rid of all of them, Use search and replace in your WP to delete " and unknown", then "unknown and " and then ""unknown" do not use quotes but please note the spaces. Similarly use an html editor for webpages. In my view this is an important bug, which ruins reports and webpages, or causes quite a bit of extra work. Quite unsatisfactory. Unlinking will not work as you will lose your descendants. Ron Ferguson _ Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Unlinking Unknown Parent(s)
I have a number of individuals where one or both of the parents are not known. In the Descendant Report, the text reads "son of Unknown and Unknown". I know I can correct this by unlinking the child for the unknown parent(s). But I have 2 questions: 1. If I know the father, but not the mother, is it possible to correct "son of Robert Smith and Unknown" without unlinking the father and then re-linking him? 2. Since I have a number of these, is there a way in Legacy to unlink many at once? Stan _ Stay in touch. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
