Re: [LegacyUG] pdf file problem

[2marion wimps]

HI Moe,

Where did you add the PDF to a name? All of the pdf files have pdf as
an extension so where do I add PDF to a name? Can you rack you brains
please - it is quietly driving me cross eyed and grey haired!!

Marion

On 12 May 2011 12:55, Moe Crosby  wrote:
> Marion,
> I had the same problem when I upgraded to Windows 7 and jumped thru all the
> same hoops as you.
> I couldn't remember how I fixed it, but fortunately I don't delete my sent
> mail.
> Here is the text from the email where I announced the fix:
>
> "Problem solved.
>
> Since upgrading I hadn't added a PDF to a name. I figured why "Add" if the
> function isn't working.
>
> Well, just for the heck of it I added a PDF to somebody. When I clicked it,
> it launched as it should. Since then, every other PDF in Legacy has worked.
>
> I guess some association is created (at the program/OS level) when a file is
> uploaded. I just copied my data to the new PC. Manually creating the
> associations didn't work.
>
> Thanks for all the input!
>
> This is for Windows 7 64 Bit."
> 
> From: 2marion wimps <2wi...@gmail.com>
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:39:49 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] pdf file problem
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have just moved my Legacy to a new computer, using Windows 7, updated to
> Legacy 5.5 (v 7/5/0.67) and have got everything working (so I thought)
>
> There are several pdf files in the tree (I have read the recent threads on
> tifs, jpg's and pdfs but these were done a long time ago!), and I decided to
> try and open one of the pdfs - it wouldn't open and the following message
> came up:
> Can't Find Player. There is currently no default media player set up for
> your computer.
>
> I have no idea why a pdf would be looking for a default media player, so I
> deleted the pdf then added it in again as a file - same message.
>
> I have checked my defaults under Windows 7 - Windows Media Centre is set as
> default for videos etc and Windows Media Player is set as default for photos
> so I cannot see that should be a problem.
>
> Has anyone else come across this before and how do I resolve it. I have
> Adobe Reader 9.4 installed and it opens all pdf files when I go into the
> tree folder holding all of my pictures and files - it just won't open the
> pdf's in the Legacy programme. I have gone into Customise/Launch and put
> Adobe Reader 9.4 in there in case it wasn't finding the Adobe exe file.
>
> Help please!!!
>
> Marion
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] pdf file problem

[Moe Crosby]

Marion,
I had the same problem when I upgraded to Windows 7 and jumped thru all the same
hoops as you.
I couldn't remember how I fixed it, but fortunately I don't delete my sent mail.
Here is the text from the email where I announced the fix:

"Problem solved.

Since upgrading I hadn't added a PDF to a name. I figured why "Add" if the
function isn't working.

Well,  just for the heck of it I added a PDF to somebody. When I clicked it,  it
launched as it should. Since then, every other PDF in Legacy has  worked.

I guess some association is created (at the program/OS  level) when a file is
uploaded. I just copied my data to the new PC.  Manually creating the
associations didn't work.

Thanks for all the input!

This is for Windows 7 64 Bit."




From: 2marion wimps <2wi...@gmail.com>
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:39:49 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] pdf file problem


Hi everyone,

I have just moved my Legacy to a new computer, using Windows 7, updated to
Legacy 5.5 (v 7/5/0.67) and have got everything working (so I thought)

There are several pdf files in the tree (I have read the recent threads on tifs,
jpg's and pdfs but these were done a long time ago!), and I decided to try and
open one of the pdfs - it wouldn't open and the following message came up:
Can't Find Player. There is currently no default media player set up for your
computer.

I have no idea why a pdf would be looking for a default media player, so I
deleted the pdf then added it in again as a file - same message.

I have checked my defaults under Windows 7 - Windows Media Centre is set as
default for videos etc and Windows Media Player is set as default for photos so
I cannot see that should be a problem.

Has anyone else come across this before and how do I resolve it. I have Adobe
Reader 9.4 installed and it opens all pdf files when I go into the tree folder
holding all of my pictures and files - it just won't open the pdf's in the
Legacy programme. I have gone into Customise/Launch and put Adobe Reader 9.4 in
there in case it wasn't finding the Adobe exe file.

Help please!!!

Marion

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RE: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature

[Kathy Horstman]

Thanks to all.  After I sent my inquiry, I went to the more complete entry for 
my grandfather, found the buttons you mention, and set my grandmother as 
Preferred Spouse.  But now I know that nothing happens to that field when I do 
the merge.   One more newbie question off the list!



Kathy Horstman



From: Amy Tolbert [mailto:amyrtolb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature



Kathy,

Don't forget, after you merge, go back in and make the adjustment to mark who 
it is that you want to be the preferred spouse.  Click on the picture of the 
spouses and then select the one that is in your line and then "set to 
preferred."  That way as you sort through all of your data it will help you 
from getting confused by those spouses that aren't part of your main research.

Happy Hunting,

Amy

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Brian/Support  
wrote:

Kathy,

Nothing happens to any of the spouses during a merge of one individual
with another. A merge simply combines the data about the people involved
in the merge. Legacy will however flag the spouses of both persons as
possible candidates to be merged later in the process.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 11/05/2011 3:58 AM, Kathy Horstman wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> IÂ’ve gotten my GEDCOM file off what started out to be my niece's and my

> Geni.com tree and imported it into a secondary, info dump file in Legacy

> Deluxe Edition 7.5.  IÂ’m taking advantage of the Merge feature, and the

> process is reminding me again of why I wanted to get the (heck) off Geni in
> the first place.   Yikes, what a mess!
>

> So here I was, plowing through scads of individuals IÂ’ve never heard of as
> being connected to my extended family, so I didnÂ’t really care if the
> Preferred Spouse was different on the two panes, or that Legacy didnÂ’t give
> me the option to pick one spouse or the other.  Merge Â’em and get on with

> it!
>
> But then I came to a merge involving my own maternal grandfather, and it has

> his first wife, who died childless, as the Preferred Spouse.  IÂ’d like to

> merge the two individuals, but what I read in Legacy Help almost makes it

> sound like thatÂ’d mean getting rid of my grandmother and all her
> descendants—including me!

>
> Did I read that wrong?  What happens to the non-preferred spouse during a
> merge, anyway?
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy Horstman


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

[hwedhlor]

  The point being to check before visiting any facility to
determine what they allow.

John

On 5/11/2011 1:33 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
> Good to know - here in Chester co you can't take a camera in and Moore
> Co NC doesn't allow cameras or camera phones. So it seems just as
> likely to allow as not allow.
>
>
> Eliz
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM, hwedhlor  wrote:
>>   I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
>> here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
>> Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
>> than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
>> be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
>> my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
>> in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
>> Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
>> Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 5/10/2011 1:45 PM, Eliz H
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[LegacyUG] pdf file problem

[2marion wimps]

Hi everyone,

I have just moved my Legacy to a new computer, using Windows 7, updated to
Legacy 5.5 (v 7/5/0.67) and have got everything working (so I thought)

There are several pdf files in the tree (I have read the recent threads on
tifs, jpg's and pdfs but these were done a long time ago!), and I decided to
try and open one of the pdfs - it wouldn't open and the following message
came up:
Can't Find Player. There is currently no default media player set up for
your computer.

I have no idea why a pdf would be looking for a default media player, so I
deleted the pdf then added it in again as a file - same message.

I have checked my defaults under Windows 7 - Windows Media Centre is set as
default for videos etc and Windows Media Player is set as default for photos
so I cannot see that should be a problem.

Has anyone else come across this before and how do I resolve it. I have
Adobe Reader 9.4 installed and it opens all pdf files when I go into the
tree folder holding all of my pictures and files - it just won't open the
pdf's in the Legacy programme. I have gone into Customise/Launch and put
Adobe Reader 9.4 in there in case it wasn't finding the Adobe exe file.

Help please!!!

Marion


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

[William Boswell]

I meant stay away not stay about.  Typing too fast.



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs



That format wasn’t good when times were good.  I would stay about from BMP.



From: Perk Bingham [mailto:p...@wavecable.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs



To muddy the water a bit, how about bitmap (.bmp)?

Perk (:>)

Family History: Where every little step backward means progress (:>)

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   And
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On 5/11/2011 2:15 PM, CE Wood wrote:

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Larry McCumber]

No problem, but I'm still wondering if I should switch to TIFF for my originals.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> My apologies, you are quite correct, and I should have checked! I have
> always thought of it as lossy, but since I only use it for its transparency
> properties and, therefore, generally convert a picture to this format only
> once, I have never bothered to check.
>
> Thank you for the correction.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry McCumber
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:16 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>
> Ron, everything that I've read about PNG format is that it is fully
> lossless.  I'm hoping that is true because that is the main format
> that I use for all my photographs.  One of the discussion links is
> http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngintro.html, but even so I may have to
> look into TIFF from now on.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ron Ferguson
>  wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit
>> the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save
>> without any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG,
>> when
>> you save after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is
>> accumulative, so the more times you do an edit and save then the greater
>> the
>> loss in quality. With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only
>> one
>> or two edit/saves but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs
>> on
>> saving, btw, not during the edit.
>>
>> Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use
>> as JPG, PNG GIF etc..
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Larry McCumber
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>>
>> These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
>> the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
>> or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
>> interested in why .tif.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
 To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for
 posterity, you
 should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
 photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does
 anyone
 here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>>>
>>> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike Fry
>>> Johannesburg
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Jackie King]

I'm getting in on this quite late so forgive me if I am repeating
something but tif can be lossy depending on how you are saving your image.

The Tiff format has no standard of compression so one has to be applied.
Many programs automatically use the LZW compression but some programs
actually ask you which compression you would like. LZW is going to be
lossless but some of the other compressions that can be used will make
the TIF a lossy image.

Cheers -

jk



On 5/11/2011 8:27 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Larry,
>
> My apologies, you are quite correct, and I should have checked! I have
> always thought of it as lossy, but since I only use it for its transparency
> properties and, therefore, generally convert a picture to this format only
> once, I have never bothered to check.
>
> Thank you for the correction.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry McCumber
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:16 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>
> Ron, everything that I've read about PNG format is that it is fully
> lossless.  I'm hoping that is true because that is the main format
> that I use for all my photographs.  One of the discussion links is
> http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngintro.html, but even so I may have to
> look into TIFF from now on.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ron Ferguson
>   wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit
>> the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save
>> without any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG,
>> when
>> you save after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is
>> accumulative, so the more times you do an edit and save then the greater
>> the
>> loss in quality. With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only
>> one
>> or two edit/saves but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs
>> on
>> saving, btw, not during the edit.
>>
>> Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use
>> as JPG, PNG GIF etc..
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Larry McCumber
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>>
>> These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
>> the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
>> or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
>> interested in why .tif.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
 To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for
 posterity, you
 should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
 photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does
 anyone
 here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>>> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike Fry
>>> Johannesburg
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[BG Johnson]

The last sentence should have read “Try scanning a large photo file…”



bgj



From: BG Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



If I remember correctly, very large image files will not display in some of the 
reports.  Another aspect is the time it takes to load a large file.  A large 
image will slow down the Legacy program significantly when switching from 
screen to screen where images are concerned.  I recommend keeping them 
relatively small for use in Legacy.  Try scanning a photo that will be marked 
as the “preferred” picture and see how long it takes to navigate to that person 
in the family view.



bgj



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



Julia,



As others have said it has no effect on the size of your Legacy file, but do 
note the comments made particularly regarding web pages and the size of the 
image (in bytes). You may have no intention of creating a website at the 
moment, but you do not know about the future, and you may feel it is better to 
use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at sometime in the future. 
JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/





From: julia l 

Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far into 
my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file and make 
a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.

Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the 
family file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[BG Johnson]

If I remember correctly, very large image files will not display in some of the 
reports.  Another aspect is the time it takes to load a large file.  A large 
image will slow down the Legacy program significantly when switching from 
screen to screen where images are concerned.  I recommend keeping them 
relatively small for use in Legacy.  Try scanning a photo that will be marked 
as the “preferred” picture and see how long it takes to navigate to that person 
in the family view.



bgj



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



Julia,



As others have said it has no effect on the size of your Legacy file, but do 
note the comments made particularly regarding web pages and the size of the 
image (in bytes). You may have no intention of creating a website at the 
moment, but you do not know about the future, and you may feel it is better to 
use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at sometime in the future. 
JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/





From: julia l 

Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far into 
my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file and make 
a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.

Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the 
family file?

  _

From: whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400

Years ago I scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to 
JPG’s and noticed the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I 
scanned at a higher resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high 
resolution for documents and photos and save as a TIF file..  JPG’s, as was 
mentioned, tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed.



I only use JPG’s for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and 
size.  If I ever need to see the document close up I can still go back to the 
TIF file.  Most of my old genealogy documents of no historical value were 
destroyed after scanning at a high resolution.



I don’t recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are planning to attach them 
to Legacy since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only time I use PDFs is for 
large documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages converted to single JPGs.  
Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the individual pages to single 
JPGs for sources.



PDF files can be large too depending on the resolution used to scan the 
documents.



Bill Boswell



From: julia l [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my 
documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.

I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that 
Geoff uses the .tif format.

What format do you use and why do you use that format?

[I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]

Thanks!





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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Ron Ferguson]

Larry,

My apologies, you are quite correct, and I should have checked! I have
always thought of it as lossy, but since I only use it for its transparency
properties and, therefore, generally convert a picture to this format only
once, I have never bothered to check.

Thank you for the correction.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Larry McCumber
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:16 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

Ron, everything that I've read about PNG format is that it is fully
lossless.  I'm hoping that is true because that is the main format
that I use for all my photographs.  One of the discussion links is
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngintro.html, but even so I may have to
look into TIFF from now on.

Larry

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit
> the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save
> without any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG,
> when
> you save after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is
> accumulative, so the more times you do an edit and save then the greater
> the
> loss in quality. With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only
> one
> or two edit/saves but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs
> on
> saving, btw, not during the edit.
>
> Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use
> as JPG, PNG GIF etc..
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry McCumber
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>
> These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
> the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
> or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
> interested in why .tif.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
>>> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for
>>> posterity, you
>>> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
>>> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does
>>> anyone
>>> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>>
>> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>>
>> 
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Ron Ferguson]

Chris,

True, but like PDF, DjVu is a proprietary format and one has to have a reader 
for it – I know Irfan view has a suitable plug-in. At one time Findmypast had 
all their images in that format, and I guess like everybody else, I converted 
them to JPG. Pretty well all my documents are either TXT or OpenOffice format.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Chris CG
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

A great open-source alternative for documents is DjVu.  See
http://djvu.sourceforge.net/ .

Chris

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM, julia l  wrote:
> Good point Ron - must think of the future too! Tif as master, jpg copy for
> Legacy is what I'll do.
>
> 
> From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:57:04 +0100
>
> Julia,
>
> As others have said it has no effect on the size of your Legacy file, but do
> note the comments made particularly regarding web pages and the size of the
> image (in bytes). You may have no intention of creating a website at the
> moment, but you do not know about the future, and you may feel it is better
> to use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at sometime in the
> future. JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: julia l
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
>
> Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far
> into my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file
> and make a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.
>
> Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the
> family file?
>
> 
> From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400
>
> Years ago I scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to
> JPG’s and noticed the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I
> scanned at a higher resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high
> resolution for documents and photos and save as a TIF file..  JPG’s, as was
> mentioned, tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed.
>
>
>
> I only use JPG’s for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and
> size.  If I ever need to see the document close up I can still go back to
> the TIF file.  Most of my old genealogy documents of no historical value
> were destroyed after scanning at a high resolution.
>
>
>
> I don’t recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are planning to attach
> them to Legacy since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only time I use PDFs
> is for large documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages converted to
> single JPGs.  Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the individual
> pages to single JPGs for sources.
>
>
>
> PDF files can be large too depending on the resolution used to scan the
> documents.
>
>
>
> Bill Boswell
>
>
>
> From: julia l [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
>
>
>
> I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
>
> I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that
> Geoff uses the .tif format.
>
> What format do you use and why do you use that format?
>
> [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]
>
> Thanks!

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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Larry McCumber]

Ron, everything that I've read about PNG format is that it is fully
lossless.  I'm hoping that is true because that is the main format
that I use for all my photographs.  One of the discussion links is
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngintro.html, but even so I may have to
look into TIFF from now on.

Larry

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit
> the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save
> without any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when
> you save after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is
> accumulative, so the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the
> loss in quality. With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one
> or two edit/saves but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on
> saving, btw, not during the edit.
>
> Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use
> as JPG, PNG GIF etc..
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry McCumber
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>
> These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
> the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
> or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
> interested in why .tif.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
>>> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for
>>> posterity, you
>>> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
>>> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does
>>> anyone
>>> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>>
>> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>>
>> 
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Chris CG]

A great open-source alternative for documents is DjVu.  See
http://djvu.sourceforge.net/ .

Chris

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM, julia l  wrote:
> Good point Ron - must think of the future too! Tif as master, jpg copy for
> Legacy is what I'll do.
>
> 
> From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:57:04 +0100
>
> Julia,
>
> As others have said it has no effect on the size of your Legacy file, but do
> note the comments made particularly regarding web pages and the size of the
> image (in bytes). You may have no intention of creating a website at the
> moment, but you do not know about the future, and you may feel it is better
> to use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at sometime in the
> future. JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: julia l
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
>
> Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far
> into my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file
> and make a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.
>
> Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the
> family file?
>
> 
> From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400
>
> Years ago I scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to
> JPG’s and noticed the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I
> scanned at a higher resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high
> resolution for documents and photos and save as a TIF file..  JPG’s, as was
> mentioned, tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed.
>
>
>
> I only use JPG’s for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and
> size.  If I ever need to see the document close up I can still go back to
> the TIF file.  Most of my old genealogy documents of no historical value
> were destroyed after scanning at a high resolution.
>
>
>
> I don’t recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are planning to attach
> them to Legacy since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only time I use PDFs
> is for large documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages converted to
> single JPGs.  Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the individual
> pages to single JPGs for sources.
>
>
>
> PDF files can be large too depending on the resolution used to scan the
> documents.
>
>
>
> Bill Boswell
>
>
>
> From: julia l [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
>
>
>
> I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
>
> I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that
> Geoff uses the .tif format.
>
> What format do you use and why do you use that format?
>
> [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Ward Walker]

All of the source data fields will be in the Gedcom file, but the appearance
can be substantially scrambled -- depending on the template. The reason is
that all the master source fields are appended together, then all the detail
source fields. (Some Sourcewriter templates format the desired Legacy output
using intermixed master and detail fields.) So, until the Gedcom standard
changes, Legacy could provide a helpful workaround when reducing each
Sourcewriter source to a Basic source, during the export to Gedcom, by
creating one big detail source and a dummy master. This detail source would
have the data properly formatted as if output in a Legacy report.

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: "Sherry/Support" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of
Sources


Non-standard gedcom tags are used all the time by all genealogy
programs. I can't think of a single one that includes only fields
within the Ged 5.5 standard.  If you know of one, please let me know.

The important thing is that your sources will be shared with others,
no matter whether or not you select the SourceWriter or Basic system
in Legacy.  And *everything* you enter in SourceWriter *will* be in
the gedcom.

You can test this yourself. Create a gedcom from the Sample file,
selecting just Asa Clark Brown, exporting to the Legacy option and
compare what's in the gedcom with what's in the source itself.


The final format which SourceWriter gives us is all that will be lost.
None of the data.


SourceWriter just makes it easier for users to format sources
according to the standard set by Elizabeth Shown Mills in Evidence
Explained.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sherry/Support
>  wrote:
>> That's because other programs don't support SourceWriter features.
>> It's not defined in the gedcom standards.
>
> I respectfully disagree with this phrasing. The statements I would
> agree are factual, but I disagree with the point of view. The way I
> look at it is that Source Writer does/did not appreciate/accommodate
> the GEDCOM standard when it was developed. Like it or not, GEDCOM is
> still a widely used method of sharing ones data, and the mistake that
> was made was that the developers of Source Writer seemed to ignore it.
> As an example, there is no way to upload a Legacy file to
> Ancestry.com. It accepts GEDCOM only.
>
>> However, your sources will be exported in the standard Gedcom format
>> for sources and they will import just fine into other programs.
>
> It's true that it exports something, and that something will be
> imported just fin. The problem with it, and the reason for my
> caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer
> to GEDCOM is horrible. The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I
> consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system.
>
> As my caution was directly related to sharing the data via GEDCOM, I
> still think it is a fair warning to proceed with caution with Source
> Writer.
>
> --
> James Cook
> GED Utils, Ancestry Utils
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[LegacyUG] Particular type of report

[sarlesinsight]

In TMG I could make a report that gave all details about one person (say
me) and then moved upward though a particular line to the farthest back
ancestor of that line, and including all those of that line in between. I
have tried to find such a report option on Legacy, but do not. Rather than 
give each generation of parents, grandparent, gg grandparents, and so on in
one leverl of a report, I think it is easier to follow if I can just do one
line at a time. A report of my Coulter surname, starting with me and going 
back through the Coulters to the oldest one.

Am I correct? Is this not possible?

If not, I will certainly add that request to another I am preparing.

Jane


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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature

[Amy Tolbert]

Kathy,
Don't forget, after you merge, go back in and make the adjustment to mark
who it is that you want to be the preferred spouse.  Click on the picture of
the spouses and then select the one that is in your line and then "set to
preferred."  That way as you sort through all of your data it will help you
from getting confused by those spouses that aren't part of your main
research.
Happy Hunting,
Amy

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Brian/Support
wrote:

> Kathy,
>
> Nothing happens to any of the spouses during a merge of one individual
> with another. A merge simply combines the data about the people involved
> in the merge. Legacy will however flag the spouses of both persons as
> possible candidates to be merged later in the process.
>
> Brian
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>
> On 11/05/2011 3:58 AM, Kathy Horstman wrote:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > IÂ’ve gotten my GEDCOM file off what started out to be my niece's and my
> > Geni.com tree and imported it into a secondary, info dump file in Legacy
> > Deluxe Edition 7.5.  IÂ’m taking advantage of the Merge feature, and the
> > process is reminding me again of why I wanted to get the (heck) off Geni
> in
> > the first place.   Yikes, what a mess!
> >
> > So here I was, plowing through scads of individuals IÂ’ve never heard of
> as
> > being connected to my extended family, so I didnÂ’t really care if the
> > Preferred Spouse was different on the two panes, or that Legacy didnÂ’t
> give
> > me the option to pick one spouse or the other.  Merge Â’em and get on
> with
> > it!
> >
> > But then I came to a merge involving my own maternal grandfather, and it
> has
> > his first wife, who died childless, as the Preferred Spouse.  IÂ’d like
> to
> > merge the two individuals, but what I read in Legacy Help almost makes it
> > sound like thatÂ’d mean getting rid of my grandmother and all her
> > descendants—including me!
> >
> > Did I read that wrong?  What happens to the non-preferred spouse during a
> > merge, anyway?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kathy Horstman
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[julia l]

Good point Ron - must think of the future too! Tif as master, jpg copy for 
Legacy is what I'll do.

From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:57:04 +0100











Julia,

As others have said it has no effect on the size
of your Legacy file, but do note the comments made particularly regarding web
pages and the size of the image (in bytes). You may have no intention of
creating a website at the moment, but you do not know about the future, and you
may feel it is better to use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at
sometime in the future. JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



From: julia l
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

Thank
you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far into my
scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file and make a
lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.

Does anyone know if I
were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the family file?



From: whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE:
[LegacyUG] What format for documents?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21
-0400






Years ago I
scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to JPG’s and noticed
the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I scanned at a higher
resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high resolution for
documents and photos and save as a TIF file..  JPG’s, as was mentioned,
tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed.

I only use
JPG’s for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and size.  If
I ever need to see the document close up I can still go back to the TIF
file.  Most of my old genealogy documents of no historical value were
destroyed after scanning at a high resolution.

I don’t
recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are planning to attach them to Legacy
since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only time I use PDFs is for large
documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages converted to single JPGs.
Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the individual pages to single
JPGs for sources.

PDF files can
be large too depending on the resolution used to scan the documents.

Bill
Boswell



From: julia l
[mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51
PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG]
What format for documents?

I am starting to go
through all my paper files and scan my documents/certificates that I've used as
sources for my individuals.

I've been saving as pdf files and attaching
as documents, but I noticed that Geoff uses the .tif format.

What format
do you use and why do you use that format?

[I chose pdf because it
creates a much small file than a .tif or
.jpg]

Thanks!




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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Ron Ferguson]

Julia,

As others have said it has no effect on the size of your Legacy file, but do 
note the comments made particularly regarding web pages and the size of the 
image (in bytes). You may have no intention of creating a website at the 
moment, but you do not know about the future, and you may feel it is better to 
use JPG now instead of having to convert the lot at sometime in the future. 
JPGs are also fine for reports, btw..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: julia l
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far into 
my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file and make 
a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.

Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the 
family file?



From: whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400


Years ago I scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to 
JPG’s and noticed the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I 
scanned at a higher resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high 
resolution for documents and photos and save as a TIF file..  JPG’s, as was 
mentioned, tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed.



I only use JPG’s for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and 
size.  If I ever need to see the document close up I can still go back to the 
TIF file.  Most of my old genealogy documents of no historical value were 
destroyed after scanning at a high resolution.



I don’t recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are planning to attach them 
to Legacy since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only time I use PDFs is for 
large documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages converted to single JPGs.  
Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the individual pages to single 
JPGs for sources.



PDF files can be large too depending on the resolution used to scan the 
documents.



Bill Boswell



From: julia l [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?



I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my 
documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.

I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that 
Geoff uses the .tif format.

What format do you use and why do you use that format?

[I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]

Thanks!




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RE: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[David C Abernathy]

Do NOT save as any file type that REQUIRES that one has a certain program to 
vide them. I have seen when the very old versions files cannot be read by the 
current versions. I have seen to many of these programs come and go, and now 
one can NOT read any of their files

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-Original Message-
From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE


From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

Larry,

The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit the 
picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without 
any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save 
after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so 
the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality. 
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves 
but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not 
during the edit.

Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use as 
JPG, PNG GIF etc..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[David C Abernathy]

I will scan certificates and documents that needs to keep the original format 
as a jpeg, but most stories, histories, obit and etc I save it as jpeg but I 
will OCR them to a Word document.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

No it will not bloat the family file. The only thing stored in the
family file is the file name and the path of folders needed to find the
file.

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On 11/05/2011 5:24 PM, julia l wrote:
> Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too
> far into my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a
> master file and make a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.
>
> Does anyone know if I /were /to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat
> the family file?
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

[Ron Ferguson]

Perk,

BMP, also known as bitmap is not lossy, but the size of the files are so
large it is rarely used these days.

Ron Ferguson
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From: Perk Bingham
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

To muddy the water a bit, how about bitmap (.bmp)?

Perk (:>)
Family History: Where every little step backward means progress (:>)
Researching: Clawson, Kibby, Ford, Starek & Rohrer (in Ohio) And Black,
Webb, Millar, & Nichol (in Ontario & UK)
On 5/11/2011 2:15 PM, CE Wood wrote: What about PSD (Photoshop) files?
Lossless or lossy? CE From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs Larry, The point is that a TIFF
is lossless. What this means is that you can edit the picture eg remove
blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without any loss in
picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save after
editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so the
more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality.
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves
but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not
during the edit. Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and
the files in use as JPG, PNG GIF etc.. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

[David C Abernathy]

BMP is at the bottom of line, I would NOT use for anything.



I use jpeg for those that I know I will not be editing, a tiff is I will be 
doing a lot of editing.







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From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs



That format wasn’t good when times were good.  I would stay about from BMP.



From: Perk Bingham [mailto:p...@wavecable.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs



To muddy the water a bit, how about bitmap (.bmp)?

Perk (:>)

Family History: Where every little step backward means progress (:>)

Researching:
Clawson, Kibby, Ford, Starek & Rohrer (in Ohio)
   And
Black, Webb, Millar, & Nichol (in Ontario & UK)



On 5/11/2011 2:15 PM, CE Wood wrote:

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Ron Ferguson]

I use The GIMP not photoshop, but according to information on Google PSD is not 
lossy.

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-Original Message-
From: CE Wood
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE


From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

Larry,

The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit the 
picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without 
any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save 
after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so 
the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality. 
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves 
but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not 
during the edit.

Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use as 
JPG, PNG GIF etc..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/05/2011 15:56, James Cook wrote:
> Interesting.  I'm curious though, besides yourself (because you are
> aware of your own procedures), how would anyone else know what meaning
> to inject into the order of your citation list?  Does the ordering
> provide any more meaning than the date field?

I think anyone else looking at my citations would be able to see my
progression.  If I put, say, Mrs Smith's Birth Certificate as the first
citation, someone looking at my data might say "Joan Brown's Birth
Certificate - how did she know that Joan Brown is Mr Smith's wife Joan?"
  Then they could probably reconstruct the "path" from the other
citations but I think my method makes it clear from the outset.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Brian/Support]

No it will not bloat the family file. The only thing stored in the
family file is the file name and the path of folders needed to find the
file.

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On 11/05/2011 5:24 PM, julia l wrote:
> Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too
> far into my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a
> master file and make a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.
>
> Does anyone know if I /were /to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat
> the family file?
>


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

[William Boswell]

That format wasn’t good when times were good.  I would stay about from BMP.



From: Perk Bingham [mailto:p...@wavecable.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs



To muddy the water a bit, how about bitmap (.bmp)?

Perk (:>)



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On 5/11/2011 2:15 PM, CE Wood wrote:

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE



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[LegacyUG] Re: scanning photographs

[Perk Bingham]

To muddy the water a bit, how about bitmap (.bmp)?

Perk (:>)

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Clawson, Kibby, Ford, Starek&  Rohrer (in Ohio)
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On 5/11/2011 2:15 PM, CE Wood wrote:
> What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?
>
> CE
>
>
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
>
> Larry,
>
> The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit 
> the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save 
> without any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when 
> you save after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is 
> accumulative, so the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the 
> loss in quality. With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one 
> or two edit/saves but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on 
> saving, btw, not during the edit.
>
> Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use as 
> JPG, PNG GIF etc..
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[julia l]

Thank you to all who commented on this topic. Thankfully, I'm not too far into 
my scanning marathon - I will scan to a hi-res .tif for a master file and make 
a lower res jpg copy for my Legacy media directory.

Does anyone know if I were to attach the hi res .tif, does this bloat the 
family file?

From: whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400



Years ago I scanned all documents to PDF files, but then converted them to 
JPG’s and noticed the resolution wasn’t as good as I expected even though I 
scanned at a higher resolution.  For my own scans, I scan at a very high 
resolution for documents and photos and save as a TIF file.  JPG’s, as was 
mentioned, tend to lose resolution because they’re compressed. I only use JPG’s 
for Legacy after converting TIFs to a lower resolution and size.  If I ever 
need to see the document close up I can still go back to the TIF file.  Most of 
my old genealogy documents of no historical value were destroyed after scanning 
at a high resolution. I don’t recommend scanning to PDFs directly if you are 
planning to attach them to Legacy since you’ll still need the viewer.  The only 
time I use PDFs is for large documents where I don’t want hundreds of pages 
converted to single JPGs.  Those can be saved outside Legacy and just save the 
individual pages to single JPGs for sources. PDF files can be large too 
depending on the resolution used to scan the documents. Bill Boswell From: 
julia l [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] What format for documents? I am starting to go through all 
my paper files and scan my documents/certificates that I've used as sources for 
my individuals.

I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that 
Geoff uses the .tif format.

What format do you use and why do you use that format?

[I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]

Thanks!


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RE: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[CE Wood]

What about PSD (Photoshop) files?  Lossless or lossy?

CE


From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

Larry,

The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit the 
picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without 
any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save 
after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so 
the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality. 
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves 
but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not 
during the edit.

Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use as 
JPG, PNG GIF etc..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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RE: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Olwyn Bourne]

Ron,  I never knew this. I am pretty new to the LUG and family research as a 
whole.  I just want to say. it is knowledge sharing like this that makes user 
groups invaluable.   Olwyn

From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 21:10:19 +0100







Larry,

The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit
the picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without
any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save
after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so
the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality.
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves but
is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not during
the edit.

Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use
as JPG, PNG GIF etc..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Larry McCumber
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to
.png
or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
interested in why .tif.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

[Eliz Hanebury]

Good to know - here in Chester co you can't take a camera in and Moore
Co NC doesn't allow cameras or camera phones. So it seems just as
likely to allow as not allow.


Eliz

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM, hwedhlor  wrote:
>  I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
> here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
> Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
> than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
> be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
> my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
> in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
> Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
> Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.
>
> John
>
> On 5/10/2011 1:45 PM, Eliz H


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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Ron Ferguson]

Larry,

The point is that a TIFF is lossless. What this means is that you can edit the 
picture eg remove blemishes, alter colour balance etc. and then save without 
any loss in picture quality. With other formats, including PNG, when you save 
after editing then there is a quality reduction, and this is accumulative, so 
the more times you do an edit and save then the greater the loss in quality. 
With, say, a JPG the loss it not noticeable after only one or two edit/saves 
but is often very obviously after more. The loss occurs on saving, btw, not 
during the edit.

Hence the recommendation to save the master as a TIFF and the files in use as 
JPG, PNG GIF etc..

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Larry McCumber
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
interested in why .tif.

Larry

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
>> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for posterity, 
>> you
>> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
>> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does anyone
>> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>
> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>
> 
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Larry McCumber]

These specs were those also given in the seminar by Maureen Taylor on
the 14th.  I never could find out why .tif format as opposed to .png
or some other loss-less format.  I typically use .png, so I am
interested in why .tif.

Larry

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:
> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
>> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for posterity, 
>> you
>> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
>> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does anyone
>> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
>
> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>
> 
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature

[Brian/Support]

Kathy,

Nothing happens to any of the spouses during a merge of one individual
with another. A merge simply combines the data about the people involved
in the merge. Legacy will however flag the spouses of both persons as
possible candidates to be merged later in the process.

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On 11/05/2011 3:58 AM, Kathy Horstman wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> IÂ’ve gotten my GEDCOM file off what started out to be my niece's and my
> Geni.com tree and imported it into a secondary, info dump file in Legacy
> Deluxe Edition 7.5.  IÂ’m taking advantage of the Merge feature, and the
> process is reminding me again of why I wanted to get the (heck) off Geni in
> the first place.   Yikes, what a mess!
>
> So here I was, plowing through scads of individuals IÂ’ve never heard of as
> being connected to my extended family, so I didnÂ’t really care if the
> Preferred Spouse was different on the two panes, or that Legacy didnÂ’t give
> me the option to pick one spouse or the other.  Merge Â’em and get on with
> it!
>
> But then I came to a merge involving my own maternal grandfather, and it has
> his first wife, who died childless, as the Preferred Spouse.  IÂ’d like to
> merge the two individuals, but what I read in Legacy Help almost makes it
> sound like thatÂ’d mean getting rid of my grandmother and all her
> descendants—including me!
>
> Did I read that wrong?  What happens to the non-preferred spouse during a
> merge, anyway?
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy Horstman


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RE: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

[Rita Lynn McKale]

Hi Mike,
Your response has confused me a little.  I have viewed and printed the 'View 
Current List of Multimedia Locations' and have been working the last few days 
(during my spare time) to reattach the pages and pages and pages of pictures.  
There is nothing there I don't want.but they are ALL on my c drive.  I 
can't figure out why Legacy is looking on a different drive or how to tell it 
to look someplace else.

Rita

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

On 2011/05/11 18:37, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

> I looked there to start with and all of my paths are the default settings c:\ 
>  but the box that pops up after Legacy searches, says that is searching 
> in d:\  as soon as I click on an option in the "file not found" box the box 
> that says it was searching in d:\ also closes.  I would really like Legacy to 
> look in c:\

Do as Ron said, but, at the same time, click on the button labelled 'View
Current List of Multimedia Locations' and then clear out anything in the
resulting list you don't want. I'd clear them all and start afresh.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg







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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[James Cook]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:
> James,
>
> Quite simply because when we wish to publish our data we want to do so in
> the most accurate and professional way available to us...
>
> ... the GEDCOM format is the only way of transferring data between some
> programs and it does not recognise the Source Writer format


Then I guess we are in agreement, because that's what I said (or tried
to anyway) from the start of this.  Simply proceed with caution with
Source Writer.


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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Brian/Support]

If you want those documents to be included in reports as pictures of the
document (either as an event picture or as a picture of a source) you
should use one of the picture formats such as jpg, tif etc. If file size
is important then jpg are smaller than tif.

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On 11/05/2011 12:50 PM, julia l wrote:
> I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
>
> I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed
> that Geoff uses the .tif format.
>
> What format do you use and why do you use that format?
>
> [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]
>
> Thanks!


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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

James,

Quite simply because when we wish to publish our data we want to do so in
the most accurate and professional way available to us. That includes proper
formatting of the sources, which is what Source Writer is designed to do.
Yes the GEDCOM format is the only way of transferring data between some
programs and it does not recognise the Source Writer format. If you wish to
use the Legacy Basic Format for sources, nobody is stopping you and it is
transferable via a GEDCOM. You may not be aware that other genealogy
software programs also use their own version of Source Writer and they too
have the same problem.

I can blame the 3rd party GEDCOM quite easily, and in good conscience.
Consider two telephones connected by a cable. If someone cuts the 3rd party
cable it is pointless blaming the phone manufacturers.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: James Cook
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of
Sources

Have you never encountered a 3rd party product where you were forced
to upload your data via GEDCOM?
-- Ancestry.com, some phone apps - that's the only choice you get

If you make use of GEDCOM then, are you happy with the Source Writer
conversion?
-- A manually entered Basic source can produce something closer to
Source Writer than Legacy's conversion process.  How can you pawn that
off as a 3rd parties problem?



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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Ron Ferguson]

Julia,

As Mike said, PDF is a propriety format of Adobe and cannot be viewed in
Legacy, nor in your reports, only in a PDF Reader of which Adobe Acrobat
Reader is the obvious. For this reason most of us save our Legacy pictures
in a picture format, for which I would think that JPG is the most commonly
used - I would not recommend using JPEG (which is effectively the same as
JPG) because for some reason Legacy is not always keen on displaying it!

When it comes to storing pictures certainly your highest resolution TIFF
file is the most appropriate, however for use that is not necessarily the
best. Such a picture file is useless for web pages as it is just too big,
and would take far too long to download; a 90dpi JPG will do the job just
fine. Usually, for Legacy I store mine at 300dpi JPG.

Ron Ferguson
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From: julia l
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

Thank you for the tips Mike.

Is there any reason to be able to see them in Legacy? (.tif & .jpg files I
can see but .pdf files show this funny generic doc picture in the picture
gallery)

> From: mike...@iafrica.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 19:02:48 +0200
>
> On 2011/05/11 18:50, julia l wrote:
> > I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> > documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
> >
> > I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed
> > that
> > Geoff uses the .tif format.
> >
> > What format do you use and why do you use that format?
> >
> > [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a ..tif or .jpg]
>
> Yes PDF is smaller - but remember it's actually a propriety text format -
> but it
> all depends on what you're doing and your personal preferences.
>
> If, like you say, you're starting to preserve your paper documents, then I
> would
> do like Geoff, and scan at a highish resolution (600dpi for most things),
> and
> save in TIF format. This then becomes the Master or Archival copy that
> should be
> looked after as though it were the Crown jewels!
>
> From this Master, you can generate other copies, possibly in other formats
> and
> different resolutions, according to how you want to use them when
> including
> images in documents, reports and books. If you do anything wrong, you can
> always
> go back to your Master and do over.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[James Cook]

Have you never encountered a 3rd party product where you were forced
to upload your data via GEDCOM?
-- Ancestry.com, some phone apps - that's the only choice you get

If you make use of GEDCOM then, are you happy with the Source Writer conversion?
-- A manually entered Basic source can produce something closer to
Source Writer than Legacy's conversion process.  How can you pawn that
off as a 3rd parties problem?


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RE: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[julia l]

Thank you for the tips Mike.

Is there any reason to be able to see them in Legacy? (.tif & .jpg files I can 
see but .pdf files show this funny generic doc picture in the picture gallery)

> From: mike...@iafrica.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 19:02:48 +0200
>
> On 2011/05/11 18:50, julia l wrote:
> > I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> > documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
> >
> > I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that
> > Geoff uses the .tif format.
> >
> > What format do you use and why do you use that format?
> >
> > [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]
>
> Yes PDF is smaller - but remember it's actually a propriety text format - but 
> it
> all depends on what you're doing and your personal preferences.
>
> If, like you say, you're starting to preserve your paper documents, then I 
> would
> do like Geoff, and scan at a highish resolution (600dpi for most things), and
> save in TIF format. This then becomes the Master or Archival copy that should 
> be
> looked after as though it were the Crown jewels!
>
>  From this Master, you can generate other copies, possibly in other formats 
> and
> different resolutions, according to how you want to use them when including
> images in documents, reports and books. If you do anything wrong, you can 
> always
> go back to your Master and do over.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/05/11 19:00, Tim Rosenlof wrote:

> Still does ! I had a hard time with scanning until I came across it.

I see we've moved on from Scanning 101 to Scanning 201 :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] What format for documents?

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/05/11 18:50, julia l wrote:
> I am starting to go through all my paper files and scan my
> documents/certificates that I've used as sources for my individuals.
>
> I've been saving as pdf files and attaching as documents, but I noticed that
> Geoff uses the .tif format.
>
> What format do you use and why do you use that format?
>
> [I chose pdf because it creates a much small file than a .tif or .jpg]

Yes PDF is smaller - but remember it's actually a propriety text format - but it
all depends on what you're doing and your personal preferences.

If, like you say, you're starting to preserve your paper documents, then I would
do like Geoff, and scan at a highish resolution (600dpi for most things), and
save in TIF format. This then becomes the Master or Archival copy that should be
looked after as though it were the Crown jewels!

 From this Master, you can generate other copies, possibly in other formats and
different resolutions, according to how you want to use them when including
images in documents, reports and books. If you do anything wrong, you can always
go back to your Master and do over.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Tim Rosenlof]

Still does ! I had a hard time with scanning until I came across it.

Tim

On 5/11/2011 10:44 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
> On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
>> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for posterity, 
>> you
>> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
>> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does anyone
>> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
> This web site used to have some very good information on it.
>
> 
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/05/11 18:37, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

> I looked there to start with and all of my paths are the default settings c:\ 
>  but the box that pops up after Legacy searches, says that is searching 
> in d:\  as soon as I click on an option in the "file not found" box the box 
> that says it was searching in d:\ also closes.  I would really like Legacy to 
> look in c:\

Do as Ron said, but, at the same time, click on the button labelled 'View
Current List of Multimedia Locations' and then clear out anything in the
resulting list you don't want. I'd clear them all and start afresh.

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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/05/11 18:35, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> There is little or no movement to change it, nor is a successor on the
> horizon, so it will become increasingly more unfit for purpose.

And the reason it is still supported by software publishers is to facilitate the
transfer of precious data from a competitors program to their own offering.

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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/05/11 17:32, Reba Solomon wrote:
> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for posterity, 
> you
> should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does anyone
> here have opinions or additions to this advice?

This web site used to have some very good information on it.



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RE: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

[Rita Lynn McKale]

Ron,
I looked there to start with and all of my paths are the default settings c:\ 
 but the box that pops up after Legacy searches, says that is searching in 
d:\  as soon as I click on an option in the "file not found" box the box that 
says it was searching in d:\ also closes.  I would really like Legacy to look 
in c:\

Any other thoughts?

Thanks,
Rita

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

Rita,

It is usually far easier to opt to find the file yourself using Windows
Explorer. If you do not know the file name you will find it at the bottom
right of the Picture Gallery.

However, if you really want to wait for Legacy to find it, first go to
Options>Customise>Locations and change your picture location to "C:\"

Ron Ferguson.

http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Rita Lynn McKale
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files


Hi List,

I am having to reattach my pictures.  When I click on “Have Legacy Search
for the File” it comes back with the box “File Not Found”.   The box
underneath that says that it is Searching in d:\  I need it to
search in c:\



Can you tell me how to change that?



I am using the latest version of Legacy on a Vista 64 bit computer.



Thank you,

Rita








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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Ron Ferguson]

James,

With respect, you are absolutely wrong. It is recognised by all that since
the GEDCOM has been around since the Stone Age it is now so out dated, and
unable to recognise modern formats and conventions, that is is of very
limited use.

There is little or no movement to change it, nor is a successor on the
horizon, so it will become increasingly more unfit for purpose.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: James Cook
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of
Sources

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> That's because other programs don't support SourceWriter features.
> It's not defined in the gedcom standards.

I respectfully disagree with this phrasing.  The statements I would
agree are factual, but I disagree with the point of view.  The way I
look at it is that Source Writer does/did not appreciate/accommodate
the GEDCOM standard when it was developed.  Like it or not, GEDCOM is
still a widely used method of sharing ones data, and the mistake that
was made was that the developers of Source Writer seemed to ignore it.
As an example, there is no way to upload a Legacy file to
Ancestry.com.  It accepts GEDCOM only.

> However, your sources will be exported in the standard Gedcom format
> for sources and they will import just fine into other programs.

It's true that it exports something, and that something will be
imported just fin.  The problem with it, and the reason for my
caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer
to GEDCOM is horrible.  The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I
consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system.

As my caution was directly related to sharing the data via GEDCOM, I
still think it is a fair warning to proceed with caution with Source
Writer.

--
James Cook
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Re: [LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[John Carter]

Having been a serious amateur photographer for years (including doing my
own developing and printng for a while), I'll agree that those are good
guidelines.  Although some older photographic methods could only produce
detail equivalent to 200dpi, other technologies allowed for higher
resolution and recent prints should be assumed to be at least 300dpi.
Handwritten documents don't have a dpi rating, but they typically have
fine detail that you want to capture.  Scanning at 600dpi ensures that you
capture all the detail.

The TIFF format (.tif files) is a lossless method of storing image data.
The more common JPEG format (.jpg files) is a lossy storage protocol,
literally "throwing away" some of the detail of an image (depending on the
compression settings being used) in exchange for smaller files.  Each time
a JPEG image is edited and re-saved, there's a potential for more loss of
detail.

Scanning as a color image preserves the shading of sepia prints, sometimes
gives better gray scale reproduction of black and white prints, and may
enable you to manipulate an image to make writing on it more legible -
it's sometimes helful to be able to determine whether the name on a photo
is "Mary" or "Marg".

Be aware that you may need to create a JPEG image for others to view - not
all image display programs support TIFF format.

I would suggest that you have at least two backups of any digital images -
always the best resolution copy that you have.  My digital images are
currently on at least 3 hard drives which are on different computers.

John


> To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for
> posterity,
> you should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a
> colored
> photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does
> anyone
> here have opinions or additions to this advice?
> Thanks, Reba
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[Ron Ferguson]

James,

Your question begs another "Does it matter if anybody else knows what the
order means?". I use a lot of my own conventions for myself not for others.
Usually so that I can more easily see what my train of thought was at the
time. They mean something to me and help my research, and, for me, that is
important.

Ron Ferguson
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-Original Message-
From: James Cook
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

Interesting.  I'm curious though, besides yourself (because you are
aware of your own procedures), how would anyone else know what meaning
to inject into the order of your citation list?  Does the ordering
provide any more meaning than the date field?


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:
> On 11/05/2011 14:43, James Cook wrote:
>> I'm thinking some experimentation is in order.  Perhaps if I reorder
>> the citation list, move my best primary source to the top of the list
>> for each data item I'd get better results when sharing the data.  Or
>> maybe sources can be tagged at the individual level, providing a way
>> to tag preferred sources per data item or something.
>
> In his webinar Geoff mentioned the possibility of arranging your
> Citations so that the "best" one(s) was/were at the top.  I wouldn't
> want to do this myself because I like my Citations to show me (and
> anyone else) my path of discovery.
>
> For example, my first "meeting" with Mrs Smith might be in the 1861
> Census, where I discover that Mr Smith had a wife named Joan.  That
> leads me to a Marriage Index which shows that Joan's surname was Brown
> and they married in the June quarter of 1956.  That in turn allows me to
> acquire the Marriage Certificate which gives me the exact date of the
> marriage and other information.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

[Ron Ferguson]

Rita,

It is usually far easier to opt to find the file yourself using Windows
Explorer. If you do not know the file name you will find it at the bottom
right of the Picture Gallery.

However, if you really want to wait for Legacy to find it, first go to
Options>Customise>Locations and change your picture location to "C:\"

Ron Ferguson.

http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Rita Lynn McKale
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] missing multimedia files


Hi List,

I am having to reattach my pictures.  When I click on “Have Legacy Search
for the File” it comes back with the box “File Not Found”.   The box
underneath that says that it is Searching in d:\  I need it to
search in c:\



Can you tell me how to change that?



I am using the latest version of Legacy on a Vista 64 bit computer.



Thank you,

Rita



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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

[Ron Ferguson]

Unless you really want to end up in prison don’t even think about in the UK, 
especially if you are a juror!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: John Carter
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

That appears to vary by court.  When I was called for jury duty at the US
Federal District Court in Atlanta several years ago, they did not allow
jurors to bring in a phone or PDA with a camera.  No pictures were allowed
in the courtrooms.

There's usually no problem if you are in a records area of a courthouse.

John

>   I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
> here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
> Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
> than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
> be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
> my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
> in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
> Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
> Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.
>
> John


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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Sherry/Support]

Non-standard gedcom tags are used all the time by all genealogy
programs. I can't think of a single one that includes only fields
within the Ged 5.5 standard.  If you know of one, please let me know.

The important thing is that your sources will be shared with others,
no matter whether or not you select the SourceWriter or Basic system
in Legacy.  And *everything* you enter in SourceWriter *will* be in
the gedcom.

You can test this yourself. Create a gedcom from the Sample file,
selecting just Asa Clark Brown, exporting to the Legacy option and
compare what's in the gedcom with what's in the source itself.


The final format which SourceWriter gives us is all that will be lost.
None of the data.


SourceWriter just makes it easier for users to format sources
according to the standard set by Elizabeth Shown Mills in Evidence
Explained.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sherry/Support
>  wrote:
>> That's because other programs don't support SourceWriter features.
>> It's not defined in the gedcom standards.
>
> I respectfully disagree with this phrasing.  The statements I would
> agree are factual, but I disagree with the point of view.  The way I
> look at it is that Source Writer does/did not appreciate/accommodate
> the GEDCOM standard when it was developed.  Like it or not, GEDCOM is
> still a widely used method of sharing ones data, and the mistake that
> was made was that the developers of Source Writer seemed to ignore it.
>  As an example, there is no way to upload a Legacy file to
> Ancestry.com.  It accepts GEDCOM only.
>
>> However, your sources will be exported in the standard Gedcom format
>> for sources and they will import just fine into other programs.
>
> It's true that it exports something, and that something will be
> imported just fin.  The problem with it, and the reason for my
> caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer
> to GEDCOM is horrible.  The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I
> consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system.
>
> As my caution was directly related to sharing the data via GEDCOM, I
> still think it is a fair warning to proceed with caution with Source
> Writer.
>
> --
> James Cook
> GED Utils,  Ancestry Utils
> http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/


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[LegacyUG] scanning photographs

[Reba Solomon]

To the best of what I could learn, when scanning photographs for posterity,
you should be doing minimum of 600 dpi, 100% scale, always scan as a colored
photograph, and save as a .tif file.  I'm not a photographer, so does anyone
here have opinions or additions to this advice?
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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[James Cook]

Interesting.  I'm curious though, besides yourself (because you are
aware of your own procedures), how would anyone else know what meaning
to inject into the order of your citation list?  Does the ordering
provide any more meaning than the date field?


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> On 11/05/2011 14:43, James Cook wrote:
>> I'm thinking some experimentation is in order.  Perhaps if I reorder
>> the citation list, move my best primary source to the top of the list
>> for each data item I'd get better results when sharing the data.  Or
>> maybe sources can be tagged at the individual level, providing a way
>> to tag preferred sources per data item or something.
>
> In his webinar Geoff mentioned the possibility of arranging your
> Citations so that the "best" one(s) was/were at the top.  I wouldn't
> want to do this myself because I like my Citations to show me (and
> anyone else) my path of discovery.
>
> For example, my first "meeting" with Mrs Smith might be in the 1861
> Census, where I discover that Mr Smith had a wife named Joan.  That
> leads me to a Marriage Index which shows that Joan's surname was Brown
> and they married in the June quarter of 1956.  That in turn allows me to
> acquire the Marriage Certificate which gives me the exact date of the
> marriage and other information.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[James Cook]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> That's because other programs don't support SourceWriter features.
> It's not defined in the gedcom standards.

I respectfully disagree with this phrasing.  The statements I would
agree are factual, but I disagree with the point of view.  The way I
look at it is that Source Writer does/did not appreciate/accommodate
the GEDCOM standard when it was developed.  Like it or not, GEDCOM is
still a widely used method of sharing ones data, and the mistake that
was made was that the developers of Source Writer seemed to ignore it.
 As an example, there is no way to upload a Legacy file to
Ancestry.com.  It accepts GEDCOM only.

> However, your sources will be exported in the standard Gedcom format
> for sources and they will import just fine into other programs.

It's true that it exports something, and that something will be
imported just fin.  The problem with it, and the reason for my
caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer
to GEDCOM is horrible.  The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I
consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system.

As my caution was directly related to sharing the data via GEDCOM, I
still think it is a fair warning to proceed with caution with Source
Writer.

--
James Cook
GED Utils,  Ancestry Utils
http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/


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[LegacyUG] missing multimedia files

[Rita Lynn McKale]

Hi List,

I am having to reattach my pictures.  When I click on "Have Legacy Search
for the File" it comes back with the box "File Not Found".   The box
underneath that says that it is Searching in d:\  I need it to
search in c:\



Can you tell me how to change that?



I am using the latest version of Legacy on a Vista 64 bit computer.



Thank you,

Rita



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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[Kathy Meyer]

Thanks for sharing that Jenny. I had never thought about that.  Legacy's
flexibility gives us lots of options.  Kathy

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 11/05/2011 14:43, James Cook wrote:
> > I'm thinking some experimentation is in order.  Perhaps if I reorder
> > the citation list, move my best primary source to the top of the list
> > for each data item I'd get better results when sharing the data.  Or
> > maybe sources can be tagged at the individual level, providing a way
> > to tag preferred sources per data item or something.
>
> In his webinar Geoff mentioned the possibility of arranging your
> Citations so that the "best" one(s) was/were at the top.  I wouldn't
> want to do this myself because I like my Citations to show me (and
> anyone else) my path of discovery.
>
> For example, my first "meeting" with Mrs Smith might be in the 1861
> Census, where I discover that Mr Smith had a wife named Joan.  That
> leads me to a Marriage Index which shows that Joan's surname was Brown
> and they married in the June quarter of 1956.  That in turn allows me to
> acquire the Marriage Certificate which gives me the exact date of the
> marriage and other information.
>
> --
>  Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/05/2011 14:43, James Cook wrote:
> I'm thinking some experimentation is in order.  Perhaps if I reorder
> the citation list, move my best primary source to the top of the list
> for each data item I'd get better results when sharing the data.  Or
> maybe sources can be tagged at the individual level, providing a way
> to tag preferred sources per data item or something.

In his webinar Geoff mentioned the possibility of arranging your
Citations so that the "best" one(s) was/were at the top.  I wouldn't
want to do this myself because I like my Citations to show me (and
anyone else) my path of discovery.

For example, my first "meeting" with Mrs Smith might be in the 1861
Census, where I discover that Mr Smith had a wife named Joan.  That
leads me to a Marriage Index which shows that Joan's surname was Brown
and they married in the June quarter of 1956.  That in turn allows me to
acquire the Marriage Certificate which gives me the exact date of the
marriage and other information.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Given or Alt Name

[D MG]

I have 2 aunts who entered as novices and later became nuns in the Order of
Mercy, before leaving and getting married.  I have their order names in as
Alternate Names, which shows as (I think), "Mary Ann Smith was also known as
Rev. Mother St. Mauritius".  HTH.

Regards,

Dermot.


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On 11 May 2011 15:11, leo macdonald  wrote:

>
> This may have already been answered and if so I do apologize.
>
> I have a few women in my database who have chosen later in life to become a
> Sister in the church (Roman Catholic), one person whose name at birth was
> Mary Ann Smith (made up). She was given by the church the title, Rev. Mother
> St. Mauritius, of the Congregation de Notre Dame.
>
> I was wondering what would be the correct was to enter this information,
> would it be as follows?
>
> Given Name: Mary Ann
> Surname: Smith
> Title Pre: Rev. Mother Sister Saint Mauritius (Rev. Sr. St. Mauritius)
> Title Suf: C.N.D.
>
> Or should I create an Alternate Name for her religious title?
>
> I would like to see how others enter this type of information.
>
> Leo
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[Sherry/Support]

That's because other programs don't support SourceWriter features.
It's not defined in the gedcom standards.

However, your sources will be exported in the standard Gedcom format
for sources and they will import just fine into other programs.

However, if you import the gedcom back into Legacy, then you will lose
the SourceWriter formatting.

That's why you should *always* back up by going to File > Backup
Family File and not rely on gedcoms as a backup.  If you share your
Legacy files with other Legacy users, send them a backup of the family
file rather than a gedcom



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:42 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> Proceed with caution.
> Source Writer can potentially cause you problems depending on how you
> would like to use your data in the future.  Namely, it does not export
> to GEDCOM format at all well.  If you have plans to share your data
> with 3rd party products, you will probably be frustrated by this.
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Kathy Horstman  
> wrote:
>> Dear Community,
>>
>> I’ve recently started using Legacy...
>> I chose it in great part because of the SourceWriter...


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Re: [LegacyUG] Given or Alt Name

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/05/2011 15:11, leo macdonald wrote:
> This may have already been answered and if so I do apologize.
>
> I have a few women in my database who have chosen later in life to become a 
> Sister in the church (Roman Catholic), one person whose name at birth was 
> Mary Ann Smith (made up). She was given by the church the title, Rev. Mother 
> St. Mauritius, of the Congregation de Notre Dame.
>
> I was wondering what would be the correct was to enter this information, 
> would it be as follows?
>
> Given Name: Mary Ann
> Surname: Smith
> Title Pre: Rev. Mother Sister Saint Mauritius (Rev. Sr. St. Mauritius)
> Title Suf: C.N.D.
>
> Or should I create an Alternate Name for her religious title?
>
> I would like to see how others enter this type of information.

This particular situation is not one I have had to deal with but I would
definitely enter Sister St Mauritius as an AKA as that and Mary Ann
Smith are two entirely separate names by which she was known at
different times or under different circumstances.

I would enter St Mauritius (or Saint Mauritius) as the forename, leave
the surname blank and enter Sister as the title prefix.

Is it actually correct to say Reverend Mother Sister ...?  I would have
thought she was Sister ... and then later Reverend Mother   In that
case, you might want to make a further AKA with Reverend Mother as the
title prefix and again St Mauritius as the forename.

You will probably also want to create Events for her entry into the
Community and her appointment as Reverend Mother.
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[LegacyUG] Given or Alt Name

[leo macdonald]

This may have already been answered and if so I do apologize.

I have a few women in my database who have chosen later in life to become a 
Sister in the church (Roman Catholic), one person whose name at birth was Mary 
Ann Smith (made up). She was given by the church the title, Rev. Mother St. 
Mauritius, of the Congregation de Notre Dame.

I was wondering what would be the correct was to enter this information, would 
it be as follows?

Given Name: Mary Ann
Surname: Smith
Title Pre: Rev. Mother Sister Saint Mauritius (Rev. Sr. St. Mauritius)
Title Suf: C.N.D.

Or should I create an Alternate Name for her religious title?

I would like to see how others enter this type of information.

Leo


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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup Of Family File - Update

[Paul Brodsky]

That's great news!  Always nice to know that things can, in fact, work out
in the end.  :)

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Howlanddavisii wrote:

> Listers:
>
>  Just to let you know, my Legacy files are up and running.  My local
> computer repair place, Certified Nerds, was able, as Larry McCumber said, to
> download all of the Legacy files off ofthe old hard drive   After
> getting the file downloaded, I checked the multimedia paths and got an 18
> page report (it is now down to one person).
>  Thank you for everyone's help.  A great weight has been lifted from my
> shoulders.  I will make sure that my Legacy files are copied on my own
> backup drive and I will look into Dropbox, Mozy, etc.
>
>  Howland Davis
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup Of Family File - Update

[Howlanddavisii]

Listers:


Just to let you know, my Legacy files are up and running.  My local 
computer repair place, Certified Nerds, was able, as Larry McCumber said, to 
download all of the Legacy files off ofthe old hard drive   After getting 
the file downloaded, I checked the multimedia paths and got an 18 page report 
(it is now down to one person).
Thank you for everyone's help.  A great weight has been lifted from my 
shoulders.  I will make sure that my Legacy files are copied on my own backup 
drive and I will look into Dropbox, Mozy, etc.


Howland Davis











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Re: [LegacyUG] webinar/changing colors once sourced

[James Cook]

I don't know if I'm a splitter or lumper, maybe I'm a hybrid.  I'm not
at the extreme where I only have a single Master Source for Census,
but I do get reuse out of the Master Sources I do have.  I'd say my
master sources answer What, Where and When.  For example - US Census,
Cleavland County, Oklahoma, 1930.  I can use that one Master Source
for every family in that area.  What do you think, is that course
enough to be a lumper, or so granular it's a got to be a splitter?

With regards to many citations for each data item:  I guess I do it
like Geoff does.  When managed as end notes I think it works well.
When done as footnotes, I think it requires way too much page real
estate to citations.  To make it work the way I want it to, I am also
careful to copy/paste identical Source Details so that they will
collapse into just a single citation on the reports.  For example, if
a census contained multiple families on it, I may say something like
'entry for Doe, Jones and Smith families" instead of separate
notations of 'entry for John Doe family', 'entry for Tom Jones family'
or 'entry for Susie Smith family' in order to get that collapse into
single citations.

There is at least one down side to this method.  When I upload to
Ancestry.com, they will only attach the source to the first data item
it finds it attached to in my GEDCOM.  As a result, I end up with well
sourced names, but not much else.  It is now possible to edit the
source on ancestry and simply place a check on the other facts it
should be associated with, but I spend my time making my Legacy
database as clean as I want and do not wish to redo it again when
sharing my data other places.

I'm thinking some experimentation is in order.  Perhaps if I reorder
the citation list, move my best primary source to the top of the list
for each data item I'd get better results when sharing the data.  Or
maybe sources can be tagged at the individual level, providing a way
to tag preferred sources per data item or something.



On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> ...
> One of the things I saw on Geoff's recent webinar which gave me food for
> thought was that he often had maybe 8 or 10 Citations for each data item
> ...
> Now I am wondering if have too few Citations!
> --
> Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: Determining and Defining Types of Sources

[James Cook]

Proceed with caution.
Source Writer can potentially cause you problems depending on how you
would like to use your data in the future.  Namely, it does not export
to GEDCOM format at all well.  If you have plans to share your data
with 3rd party products, you will probably be frustrated by this.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Kathy Horstman  wrote:
> Dear Community,
>
> I’ve recently started using Legacy...
> I chose it in great part because of the SourceWriter...


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

[John Carter]

That appears to vary by court.  When I was called for jury duty at the US
Federal District Court in Atlanta several years ago, they did not allow
jurors to bring in a phone or PDA with a camera.  No pictures were allowed
in the courtrooms.

There's usually no problem if you are in a records area of a courthouse.

John

>   I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
> here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
> Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
> than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
> be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
> my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
> in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
> Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
> Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.
>
> John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Groups & Family Group Sheets -- program with Index at end of report

[Cathy-0]

Sherry,

Thanks!  That corrected the problem!

Cathy-0

- Original Message -
From: "Sherry/Support" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Groups & Family Group Sheets -- program with
Index at end of report


Try resetting the report options - click on the Reset button in the
lower right corner of the main report options window, then reselect
your options.

This is the first troubleshooting thing to try when you're having
problems with a report.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Cathy-0  wrote:
> Can anyone else replicate this problem?
>
> I've a project database which contains 17 small family trees. I have set
> up
> a Focus Group for the specific 17 individual people who relate to the
> project.
>
> I want to produce a report showing Family Group Sheets (FGS) for the 17
> people and their immediate families with an index at the end of the report
> of everyone shown in the FGSs.
>
> Yet when I produce the report on the screen, the last page of the report
> is
> currently just a blank page and I do not get any index at the end of the
> report.
>
> Now, occassionally in the past I have actually gotten a report of the 17
> FGSs with an index at the end. But this is the exception and not the norm.
>
> So, is this problem something unique to me, to my PC, or is this a bug?
>
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who might try to replicate this
> problem.
>
> With thanks,
>
> Cathy-0
>


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Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding b & d dates to charts

[sarlesinsight]

Will do.

Jane

On May 11, 2011 4:55am, Ron Ferguson  wrote:
> Jane,



> Why not suggest it as an enhancement (Legacy Home tab).



> Ron Ferguson

> http://www.fergys.co.uk/





> From: Jane Sarles

> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:13 PM

> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

> Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding b & d dates to charts



> When I do a chart of my ancestors, the birth and death dates are given 5

> generations back, bur not for the sixth generation. I guess it is just a

> room issue, but is it possible to get the dates in there for the 6th

> generation, even if in smaller font?



> Jane









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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3024

[John Groome]

Ron

Thanks for the guidance.

I have had the laptop turned of all day today (unusual for me!) and have
been using Legacy this evening for about 3 hours with no complaints at all.

It appears that a close down and restart may have fixed the problem but will
keep an aye on it over the next few days.

John

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> John,
>
> I do not know enough about Access to answer your query, however the error
> number seems to relate to the Jet Engine and it's relationship with a
> version of Access. You are probably best advised to contact Legacy Support
> directly with this one.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: John Groome
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 3024
>
> All
>
> I am running Legacy 7.5.0.77 on a Windows 7 laptop with my data files
> sitting on an external hard drive.
>
> When trying to attach a source to a record I get the message "Error saving
> Source.Error 3024: Could not find file ''.Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?"
>
> On answering "yes" (and it may take two or three attempts) the source is
> attached to the data record.
>
> On saving the individual, the error "Error saving Source.Error 3024: Could
> not find file ''.Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?" appears.
>
> Again, after two or three attempts the record saves.
>
> On running check/repair another 3024 error appears "Error closing
> files.Error 3024: Could not find file 'H:\Legacy\data\all.fdb'.Would you
> like to TRY IT AGAIN?" followed by "Error closing files.
> Error 3276: Invalid database object reference. Would you like to TRY IT
> AGAIN?".
>
> Neither "yes" or "no" have any effect so the only option is to "quit"
>
> On re-opening Legacy everything seems to fine, but when I try to attach a
> source to to a new individual the process starts again.
>
> Has anyone any suggestions
>
> John
> Upper Hutt
> New Zealand
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

I am not sure that I really understand your problem. The preferred, spouse,
or child, or sibling is simply there for your own use, but with respect to
the preferred spouse this is the spouse who would appear in Family View etc
as being the one visible on the screen. You can ignore it and set the
preferred person(s) after the merge.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Kathy Horstman
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Preferred Spouse in Merge Feature

Dear List,

I’ve gotten my GEDCOM file off what started out to be my niece's and my
Geni.com tree and imported it into a secondary, info dump file in Legacy
Deluxe Edition 7.5.  I’m taking advantage of the Merge feature, and the
process is reminding me again of why I wanted to get the (heck) off Geni in
the first place.   Yikes, what a mess!

So here I was, plowing through scads of individuals I’ve never heard of as
being connected to my extended family, so I didn’t really care if the
Preferred Spouse was different on the two panes, or that Legacy didn’t give
me the option to pick one spouse or the other.  Merge ’em and get on with
it!

But then I came to a merge involving my own maternal grandfather, and it has
his first wife, who died childless, as the Preferred Spouse.  I’d like to
merge the two individuals, but what I read in Legacy Help almost makes it
sound like that’d mean getting rid of my grandmother and all her
descendants—including me!

Did I read that wrong?  What happens to the non-preferred spouse during a
merge, anyway?

Thanks,
Kathy Horstman





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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3024

[Ron Ferguson]

John,

I do not know enough about Access to answer your query, however the error
number seems to relate to the Jet Engine and it's relationship with a
version of Access. You are probably best advised to contact Legacy Support
directly with this one.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: John Groome
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 3024

All

I am running Legacy 7.5.0.77 on a Windows 7 laptop with my data files
sitting on an external hard drive.

When trying to attach a source to a record I get the message "Error saving
Source.Error 3024: Could not find file ''.Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?"

On answering "yes" (and it may take two or three attempts) the source is
attached to the data record.

On saving the individual, the error "Error saving Source.Error 3024: Could
not find file ''.Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?" appears.

Again, after two or three attempts the record saves.

On running check/repair another 3024 error appears "Error closing
files.Error 3024: Could not find file 'H:\Legacy\data\all.fdb'.Would you
like to TRY IT AGAIN?" followed by "Error closing files.
Error 3276: Invalid database object reference. Would you like to TRY IT
AGAIN?".

Neither "yes" or "no" have any effect so the only option is to "quit"

On re-opening Legacy everything seems to fine, but when I try to attach a
source to to a new individual the process starts again.

Has anyone any suggestions

John
Upper Hutt
New Zealand



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding b & d dates to charts

[Ron Ferguson]

Jane,

Why not suggest it as an enhancement (Legacy Home tab).

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Jane Sarles
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding b & d dates to charts

When I do a chart of my ancestors, the birth and death dates are given 5
generations back, bur not for the sixth generation.  I guess it is just a
room issue, but is it possible to get the dates in there for the 6th
generation, even if in smaller font?

Jane




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