[LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Ron hit the nail on the head, The current version is 7.5.0.112 and is a free download. Why would anyone want to run an old version? What gets messed up? The Font? Font size? Spacing? Page breaks? What word processor are you using? There are over 100 possible setting changes one can make in all the different tabs you see during creation. Maybe have a look at all of them to see if they are set to what you want/expect. I am running the current version - I created an Ancestor Book in RTF taking the default settings [I think] - opened it in Microsoft Word, and it is beautiful - just as I expected. Bob - Original Message - From: Gociao goc...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:13:54 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Strings
All that are very knowledgeable on strings, send me a email: spa...@xmission.com Please send it directly to me and not this list. I have a tough one. Tim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Ron, Ok, updated Legacy to 7.5.0.112 and ran an RTF of an ancestor book report. The result is the same. Word processor is WordPerfectX4. The problems: 1. The list of children is not indented the same as in the Screen/printer view. RTF version: the first line (with the roman numeral) is indented, but the rest of the lines are not indented and each line must be manually indented to match the screen/printer view. 2. When a new person is listed, e.g. 50. John Jones [RIN] was born... the first two or three words are printed on one line (and indented 4 spaces from the left margin) and the rest of the information (4 or 5 lines) is printed on the next lines. The only way to correct this situation is to cut all the information and then paste it (the first line then fills with the info from the lines below. (using the delete and backspace keys has no affect on the formatting). The first line is still indented 4 spaces from the left margin and I haven't figured out how to correct that. 3. In Noted events in his life were: the second line of information does not line up under the first word of the event. This must be moved using the space bar to the correct location. The font is not affected; at times the font size is reduced from 12 to 8 and it seems to be random. Page breaks are ok. The document is 124 pages in length and it would take hours to re-format it. This is where I am and hopefully your expertise will help me correct the situation. Thank you. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing Standard Wording for was born in
Ron, Thank you for your response; that makes a lot of sense! Best regards, Lorraine Allrelated On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Lorraine, I don’t think there is an answer to your second question, but this is off the top of my head and I am afraid that I am really too busy to look in detail at the moment. To the first part: have you considered using the Publication Centre and adding a Relationship Report? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ *From:* Lorraine notenoughbi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:46 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing Standard Wording for was born in Hi, all, I have two quick questions that I have not been able to find the answer for in the FAQs, that I hope someone onlist may have already worked out. 1. Is it possible to add relationships to an Ancestor Report to be printed out? I am going to print a report for my mother, and would like to be able to let her see immediately how she is related to each person in the report, since many of them are cousins/aunts/uncles and not just direct line ancestors. Complicating it is that I'm not starting with her, but rather a few generations back. Anyone know if this is possible, without having to manually enter the information as an event for each individual? 2. For ease of my own viewing while working, I've entered of --- in the birth location field, since it is a location, even if not where the person may have been born, it seems a logical place to me. This works for me for viewing, but when printing the report, I end up with He was born in of York, Yorkshire, England. Is there any way to simply remove the he was born in language before printing? I've tried all the normal customizing spots, but to no avail. Thanks for your help, Lorraine Allrelated Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Jerry, this might not have any bearing on this problem, but I'll throw it out just in case it does. I also loved WordPerfect and I believe it was a superior product to Microsoft Word - sorry it didn't keep its prominent position. But I would think about trying different formats. I believe that WordPerfect has a formatting option to create a document formatted as an MS Word document. Anyway, I guess it wouldn't hurt to try saving in different formats, opening in different formats and see if you get the same results. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/30/2011 12:19 PM, Gociao wrote: Ron, Ok, updated Legacy to 7.5.0.112 and ran an RTF of an ancestor book report. The result is the same. Word processor is WordPerfectX4. The problems: 1. The list of children is not indented the same as in the Screen/printer view. RTF version: the first line (with the roman numeral) is indented, but the rest of the lines are not indented and each line must be manually indented to match the screen/printer view. 2. When a new person is listed, e.g. 50. John Jones [RIN] was born... the first two or three words are printed on one line (and indented 4 spaces from the left margin) and the rest of the information (4 or 5 lines) is printed on the next lines. The only way to correct this situation is to cut all the information and then paste it (the first line then fills with the info from the lines below. (using the delete and backspace keys has no affect on the formatting). The first line is still indented 4 spaces from the left margin and I haven't figured out how to correct that. 3. In Noted events in his life were: the second line of information does not line up under the first word of the event. This must be moved using the space bar to the correct location. The font is not affected; at times the font size is reduced from 12 to 8 and it seems to be random. Page breaks are ok. The document is 124 pages in length and it would take hours to re-format it. This is where I am and hopefully your expertise will help me correct the situation. Thank you. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Thanks for that suggestion, Jerry. Unfortunately, the results are the same. There seems to be some hard formatting in the RTF file that doesn't make it easy. Jerry On 8/30/2011 10:13 AM, Jerry wrote: Jerry, this might not have any bearing on this problem, but I'll throw it out just in case it does. I also loved WordPerfect and I believe it was a superior product to Microsoft Word - sorry it didn't keep its prominent position. But I would think about trying different formats. I believe that WordPerfect has a formatting option to create a document formatted as an MS Word document. Anyway, I guess it wouldn't hurt to try saving in different formats, opening in different formats and see if you get the same results. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/30/2011 12:19 PM, Gociao wrote: Ron, Ok, updated Legacy to 7.5.0.112 and ran an RTF of an ancestor book report. The result is the same. Word processor is WordPerfectX4. The problems: 1. The list of children is not indented the same as in the Screen/printer view. RTF version: the first line (with the roman numeral) is indented, but the rest of the lines are not indented and each line must be manually indented to match the screen/printer view. 2. When a new person is listed, e.g. 50. John Jones [RIN] was born... the first two or three words are printed on one line (and indented 4 spaces from the left margin) and the rest of the information (4 or 5 lines) is printed on the next lines. The only way to correct this situation is to cut all the information and then paste it (the first line then fills with the info from the lines below. (using the delete and backspace keys has no affect on the formatting). The first line is still indented 4 spaces from the left margin and I haven't figured out how to correct that. 3. In Noted events in his life were: the second line of information does not line up under the first word of the event. This must be moved using the space bar to the correct location. The font is not affected; at times the font size is reduced from 12 to 8 and it seems to be random. Page breaks are ok. The document is 124 pages in length and it would take hours to re-format it. This is where I am and hopefully your expertise will help me correct the situation. Thank you. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Maybe download OpenOffice (or one of the other free ones) and see if that 'plays better' with the .rtf files? On 8/30/2011 1:54 PM, Gociao wrote: Thanks for that suggestion, Jerry. Unfortunately, the results are the same. There seems to be some hard formatting in the RTF file that doesn't make it easy. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Jerry, Thank you for the additional information. As it happens my default word-processor is Open Office, and I am afraid that I have no experience with Word Perfect - I seem to have a niggle at the back of my head that it does not always reproduce as one might expect, but I may well be wrong here. However, I do not think that I am finding the same problems as yourself. 1. All the numerals are indented correctly, although if a line is longer than the page width the second line does start at the margin. 2. I do not have a line break/return after the first two or 3 words, all new lines are at the end of the margin ie. character position #1 3. Not the case. I'm not certain that I actually like the format but that's a different question! I have not looked at variation in font sizes. Before suggesting that it actually is a problem with Word Perfect, would you please use the Reset Button on the bottom-right of the Ancestor Book Screen and then redo your settings, to see if this corrects the problems. If it doesn't then try deleting Ances.usr and then redo your settings (it should be the same result as Reset, but one never knows!) Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Ron, Ok, updated Legacy to 7.5.0.112 and ran an RTF of an ancestor book report. The result is the same. Word processor is WordPerfectX4. The problems: 1. The list of children is not indented the same as in the Screen/printer view. RTF version: the first line (with the roman numeral) is indented, but the rest of the lines are not indented and each line must be manually indented to match the screen/printer view. 2. When a new person is listed, e.g. 50. John Jones [RIN] was born... the first two or three words are printed on one line (and indented 4 spaces from the left margin) and the rest of the information (4 or 5 lines) is printed on the next lines. The only way to correct this situation is to cut all the information and then paste it (the first line then fills with the info from the lines below. (using the delete and backspace keys has no affect on the formatting). The first line is still indented 4 spaces from the left margin and I haven't figured out how to correct that. 3. In Noted events in his life were: the second line of information does not line up under the first word of the event. This must be moved using the space bar to the correct location. The font is not affected; at times the font size is reduced from 12 to 8 and it seems to be random. Page breaks are ok. The document is 124 pages in length and it would take hours to re-format it.. This is where I am and hopefully your expertise will help me correct the situation. Thank you. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Carbonite?
Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
I personally use Dropbox with a folder that is not shared. I put my zip backup files in the folder and it pushes them very quickly to the internet cloud where I can pull them back down at any other computer if I need them. I could also share the folder with others if necessary and they would likewise have a cloud backup copy of the database. Best feature...FREE. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
I use Carbonite for backup of most file types. I do not use it for large photos, video clips, and music that are in folders that change infrequently and usually in batches (like after a trip). I worry that these files would bog down the automated backup process. I manually back them up to external hard drives. Reduced pictures used for Legacy are stored elsewhere and are included in the Carbonite backup set. I have not had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite, but it would be very simple. I can easily see/open/download all my backed up files from any computer connected to the Internet. (Even from my smart phone, although it can only open certain file types.) Storing an occasional copy of the online backup set to a local medium is worth considering. Who knows what disasters might befall the Carbonite company or their servers. Or the Internet, for that matter. Hopefully such disasters would not coincide with a failure of my local hard drive, though. Ward - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:33 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Carbonite? Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
Kirsten, Sounds like your considering Carbonite's service so I thought I would chime in here. I signed up for their free trial and was literally minutes away from paying for a subscription when I learned something key. Carbonite will not backup external drives. Only drives that are physically installed in your computer will be backed up. Like so many of us, we use external hard drives connected via USB either as backup drives or at least expanded storage. For me, that was deal breaker and I chose a different service (in my case, it was backblaze.com) If the external drive issue is not a problem for you, I think Carbonite is otherwise a good service. To more directly address your question though, right now I store my Legacy DB on my DropBox account and then I include that drive/folder in the backup. Once I get things settled I plan to incorporate an external drive as another backup device and then I will backup that backup the offline backup site (which is unlimited storage). I used to use MozyPro like this but they recently changed their TOS so that it's not unlimited anymore. Hope that helps. Paul On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Location Tamer Update
Another feature added. Abbreviation replacer. The location tamer can now take your abbreviations inside of locations and swap them back and forth. Missouri to MO, Cem. to Cemetery, St. to Saint and vice-versa. Pick up a copy at http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/. yes, you will still need MS Access to run it. I'll see about a runtime version later this week. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
I use Amazon's Cloud. Also have a pocket size hard drive. There ya go :) Tim On 8/30/2011 2:33 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
I've restored Legacy back to a hard drive from Carbonite. Absolutely no problems. On 8/30/2011 4:33 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?
I have a friend who had a subscription to Carbonite and her Windows Vista computer crashed. She got a new one with Windows 7 and it wasn't a problem restoring the Family Files and linked data that were in the c:\Legacy sub-folders. She did have a big problem with everything else that was in the Documents and Pictures folder because of the file path differences. They throttled back her download and it took about 2 weeks for all her files to be restored - she had thousands of photos. Personally, I think if you back up your Family Files and Pictures on an external drive and/or CDs using the File Backup Familiy File, that will be quite good for you - make sure that you have copies stored off-site, though. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Do any list members use Carbonite for backup? If so . . . Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite? Did it work well? Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: Location Tamer Update
I have added the runtime version in the same directory. Much easier than I had expected. You no longer need to have MS Access installed to use the application. Download LocationTamerwRuntime.zip and unzip then launch setup.exe. Enjoy. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Terry Foster tfost...@kc.rr.com wrote: Another feature added. Abbreviation replacer. The location tamer can now take your abbreviations inside of locations and swap them back and forth. Missouri to MO, Cem. to Cemetery, St. to Saint and vice-versa. Pick up a copy at http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/. yes, you will still need MS Access to run it. I'll see about a runtime version later this week. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
Thank you, Ron. The using the reset button didn't do the trick. However, when I opened the file in Open Office, I was able to more easily make corrections to it. It'll still take some time, but it'll be easier and faster. This is pointing to WordPerfect as the possible culprit. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:23 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, Thank you for the additional information. As it happens my default word-processor is Open Office, and I am afraid that I have no experience with Word Perfect - I seem to have a niggle at the back of my head that it does not always reproduce as one might expect, but I may well be wrong here. However, I do not think that I am finding the same problems as yourself. 1. All the numerals are indented correctly, although if a line is longer than the page width the second line does start at the margin. 2. I do not have a line break/return after the first two or 3 words, all new lines are at the end of the margin ie. character position #1 3. Not the case. I'm not certain that I actually like the format but that's a different question! I have not looked at variation in font sizes. Before suggesting that it actually is a problem with Word Perfect, would you please use the Reset Button on the bottom-right of the Ancestor Book Screen and then redo your settings, to see if this corrects the problems. If it doesn't then try deleting Ances.usr and then redo your settings (it should be the same result as Reset, but one never knows!) Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Ron, Ok, updated Legacy to 7.5.0.112 and ran an RTF of an ancestor book report. The result is the same. Word processor is WordPerfectX4. The problems: 1. The list of children is not indented the same as in the Screen/printer view. RTF version: the first line (with the roman numeral) is indented, but the rest of the lines are not indented and each line must be manually indented to match the screen/printer view. 2. When a new person is listed, e.g. 50. John Jones [RIN] was born... the first two or three words are printed on one line (and indented 4 spaces from the left margin) and the rest of the information (4 or 5 lines) is printed on the next lines. The only way to correct this situation is to cut all the information and then paste it (the first line then fills with the info from the lines below. (using the delete and backspace keys has no affect on the formatting). The first line is still indented 4 spaces from the left margin and I haven't figured out how to correct that. 3. In Noted events in his life were: the second line of information does not line up under the first word of the event. This must be moved using the space bar to the correct location. The font is not affected; at times the font size is reduced from 12 to 8 and it seems to be random. Page breaks are ok. The document is 124 pages in length and it would take hours to re-format it.. This is where I am and hopefully your expertise will help me correct the situation. Thank you. Jerry On 8/30/2011 12:34 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jerry, You give insufficient information to identify your problem, but I would suggest that you first update to the current version as the one you are using is well past its sell by date. Then try again. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Gociao Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF Whenever I create a report, e.g. ancestor book report, in the RTF mode, the formatting is messed up big time and requires hours to put the report into the same format as when it's printed or viewed on the screen in the regular Legacy format. Is this the nature of the beast or is something messed up in the program? I'm running version 7.0.89. Thank you for your input. Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reports in RTF
There's also LibreOffice ... which I have no personal experience with, but it seems to be well-regarded. On 8/30/2011 8:21 PM, Gociao wrote: Thanks for that suggestion, Bob. It seems that Open Office gets along better with an RTF file better than WordPerfect. Jerry On 8/30/2011 11:34 AM, Bob Bashford wrote: Maybe download OpenOffice (or one of the other free ones) and see if that 'plays better' with the .rtf files? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Text/Comments versus Scanned Image
Thanks so much for the pictures and wonderful message, Lynne! It sure was fun! Sent from my iPhone On 2011-08-28, at 7:49 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Priscilla, Not to toss out what others have said, but I have a 19-page hand-written letter that defines 5 generations of one family line. I had already transcribed it into a Word document before I became a Legacy user... or maybe after but before I knew enough to even ask the question you asked! I did not re-enter or even copy/paste the entire letter into the Master Source text field. I did however copy paste small bits of it into Detail Citation text fields as the situation warranted. In some cases, I copied pasted bits of it directly into Events' Notes fields. It depended on the nature of the information. For example, one statement proves a son's name or birth order of sons, while another is the description of the day the writer's grandfather went off to serve in the Rev. War! Also, I wanted to note that whether you are putting it into the Source Master text field or the Detail Citation text field is somewhat a function of whether you are a lumper or a splitter. Right? I am a bit of both, depending on the type of source. I am moving to more lumpedness in my US census data, but I still keep birth and death certificates (records or registers) completely at the split end of the spectrum. I think it depends on how you want to use/see/report the information in the end. For example, some people put various things into the source citation that I would rather see closer at hand in my reports. (wish I had a good example of that... it's been discussed here in the past week or so) Or some people enter the census listing in its entirely in the Notes of the Census event... it is good enough for me to see it on screen by clicking on the books sources icon for the person... but that goes back to how I entered it on the source/citation to begin with. Perhaps I have rambled... Best wishes! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Priscilla Glasow priscilla.gla...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, August 23, 2011 4:47:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Text/Comments versus Scanned Image Thank you to all who answered my recent question regarding the need to copy entire documents into the Text/Comments tab. I'm working with military records and it's difficult to copy highly-structured documents such as these into an unstructured text box and still make sense. Sherry and Geoff's reasons are sound, so I'll continue putting the effort in, but will try the tools that Jenny mentioned to see if they relieve some of the tedium. Best, Priscilla On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Priscilla Glasow priscilla.gla...@gmail.com wrote: Do I need to type an entire document's contents into the Text/Comments tab in the Source Detail if I've scanned the document and have it linked to the source? I don't see the purpose of this and would like to save myself from the extensive time and effort needed to type in the text of each document. Many thanks, Priscilla Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
