Re: [LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event
A marriage is an Event. A Marriage Record is one of the best Sources for it, there are other Sources for the marriage Event. A Census is an Event. The Census Record is a Source for the Event. -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Marli Yoder wrote: > Please explain source verses event. I use "Missouri, St. Louis 1900 Federal > Census" as a SOURCE. Then I attach it as a Census EVENT to each individual > that > is referenced in that event. I do not "add individuals that are not part of > the > family", but I do transcribe them. Am I understanding how you are using the > Source? (This is an example only) Some sound like they make a new Source for > each time they use it? > > I do remember that each persons way is right, but I'm confused. (as usual) > Marli Yoder > A& M Farms > Eureka & Sturgeon > > > > > From: Ron Ferguson > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 2:21:58 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census > > Marilyn, > > I always attached the image of every source to the Source Detail, largely > because when I get a piece of new information which seems to conflict with > my record I can easily, and quickly, refer back to the original image(s) > from which I drew my conclusions. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > From: Marilyn Clark > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:14 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census > > I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any > census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full > transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the > SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe > household". > > > I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, > visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point > I add them as individuals in my family file. > > > I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone > on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" > event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. > > > Marilyn > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Jennifer, unless I am misreading what you have written, it would appear that the file (Legacy) you received is setup the way the other person likes Legacy to be, so I should not think they would want to change their Legacy settings for you. I think in this case it is up to you to change the file settings now that you have the file. If it was a GEDCOM file sent to you, then it is a fair ask. Please let me know if I have read this wrong and that you can send a Legacy file as Sherry suggested they do with a GEDCOM. Colin. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Crockett" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:16 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism event >I understand, Sherry, but I did not receive the file as a GEDCOM, but as a >Legacy file. I will ask the person who sent it if he can do it again using >the settings you suggest. > > Regards, > > Jennifer > > From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] > Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012 12:32 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event > > Legacy imported correctly. > When you're doing the import, click on the Customize button and select the > option "Convert the GEDCOM tab BAPM to CHR while importing" > Then those events will be correctly imported into Legacy. > If you leave it as BAPM, the data imports as an event. > The Help file for 'GEDCOM Items to Import: states > Baptism versus Christening > Some genealogy programs export christening information into a GEDCOM file > using the BAPM tag instead of CHR. You can have Legacy put this > information into the Christening fields during the import rather than > having a Baptism event created in the Event List by selecting this option. > > > > If you created a new file with the gedcom (as you always should before > importing that into your main Family File), just delete that import and > start over. > > If you imported directly into your Family File, restore the backup you > created before you did the import and try again with the setting mentioned > above. > > > Sincerely, > Sherry > Technical Support > Legacy Family Tree > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Jennifer Crockett > wrote: > I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy > compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it > up quite a bit. > > One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and > I > want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know > how > to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it > more easily and quickly? > > Regards, > > Jennifer > http://colston-wenck.com > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
Ron, I will take your experience to heart, because you have many, many more images than I do. I am just a beginner. Sometimes I just want to look at the images for a county... not necessarily for an individual. I can go to the source master list and find the images there, rather than having to go to an individual's citations to find where one of the county's images are 2 clicks away. But as I said in my post, I could also just look at them on my hard drive, because after completing my big re-naming project last year, the images are together there, too. --Paula From:Ron Ferguson To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 4:12:16 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? Paula, I do not really see where you are coming from here. I am a lumper and I have census Master Sources for each census year. Currently each year covers the whole of England, Wales and Scotland, Ireland I treat separately. I have over 6,000 records in my DB, so even at an average of 4 individuals/census this would give me 1,500 census images. Most of my records come from 4 counties, so even with and even split I would have on average 475 census images/ county. This is far too many for me to even consider searching in order to find a specific one. I think that I must be misunderstanding you somewhere along the line, but cannot see where. I will keep adding them to each individual Source Details where I can find them in 2 clicks. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Paula Ryburn Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? Yes, if you attach / link the images to the detail citations, then the images are out there with the individuals, not in the source master list. Just a consideration. I mean, I also have a naming convention for the images themselves that keeps counties together on the hard drive, so I could just as easily look at them there, I suppose. --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unrelated, of interest to a particular family - how to link them?
One place would be the source, you are sourcing those people. If you include the transcription of the census you include a comment about the possible family there. Another place could be the research notes. When you enter the people you can include comments in their research notes on why you have added them and who they may be linked to. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2012 8:59 PM, Marg Strong wrote: > I'm full of questions tonight. Sometimes on a census image I notice another > family with a familiar name. There may or may not be a relationship. If I > enter that person or family into my database as an unattached individual, how > to I put an easily seen note as to what family the person might be related to? > > > I've entered a few, but I'll end up with a group of unattached individuals > floating in my file with no easy way to remember who they were near or who I > thought they might be related to. > Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
Oh, Thank you, Ron! That will save me a lot of work. So much to learn... Peggy > > From: Ron Ferguson >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:11 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? > >Paula, > >I do not really see where you are coming from here. I am a lumper and I have >census Master Sources for each census year. Currently each year covers the >whole of England, Wales and Scotland, Ireland I treat separately. I have >over 6,000 records in my DB, so even at an average of 4 individuals/census >this would give me 1,500 census images. > >Most of my records come from 4 counties, so even with and even split I would >have on average 475 census images/ county. This is far too many for me to >even consider searching in order to find a specific one. I think that I must >be misunderstanding you somewhere along the line, but cannot see where. > >I will keep adding them to each individual Source Details where I can find >them in 2 clicks. > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event
Well, more clean up ahead. I've been using just the census year and country as my source and putting the county information in the detail. I can see why it would be good to keep the counties together in the sources. Families living in the same area can be easily gathered together in a report. So another task now is to go back, find all the individuals attached to the country for that year, and break the sources down into Counties. It would be so much easier to start using Legacy after becoming an expert. > > From: Marli Yoder >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:36 PM >Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event > >Please explain source verses event. I use "Missouri, St. Louis 1900 Federal >Census" as a SOURCE. Then I attach it as a Census EVENT to each individual that >is referenced in that event. I do not "add individuals that are not part of the >family", but I do transcribe them. Am I understanding how you are using the >Source? (This is an example only) Some sound like they make a new Source for >each time they use it? > >I do remember that each persons way is right, but I'm confused. (as usual) >Marli Yoder >A& M Farms >Eureka & Sturgeon > > > > >From: Ron Ferguson >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 2:21:58 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census > >Marilyn, > >I always attached the image of every source to the Source Detail, largely >because when I get a piece of new information which seems to conflict with >my record I can easily, and quickly, refer back to the original image(s) >from which I drew my conclusions. > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > >From: Marilyn Clark >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:14 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census > >I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any >census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full >transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the >SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe >household". > > >I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, >visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point >I add them as individuals in my family file. > > >I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone >on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" >event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. > > >Marilyn > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our >blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Unrelated, of interest to a particular family - how to link them?
I'm full of questions tonight. Sometimes on a census image I notice another family with a familiar name. There may or may not be a relationship. If I enter that person or family into my database as an unattached individual, how to I put an easily seen note as to what family the person might be related to? I've entered a few, but I'll end up with a group of unattached individuals floating in my file with no easy way to remember who they were near or who I thought they might be related to. Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with the "I think" and "maybe" individuals?
But there are no source icons for the children unless you go into their page, are there? I do like the idea of adding the UNSOURCED master source so at least when I'm ready to work on those, I can pull them up. Thanks! > > From: Leon Chapman >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:43 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with the "I think" and "maybe" individuals? > >Peggy: > >The source icon is Grey if there are no souces for an individual in >the family view. > >You could add a new Master source called UNSOURCED and attach that to >each person you have unsourced and then you can see a list of people >who have that source named UNSOURCED. > >___ >Leon Chapman >chap...@gmail.com >- > > > >On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Marg Strong wrote: >> >> When I read this (posted as a comment in another topic) I wondered again if >> there was a way to put individuals into your tree and identify them as >> unsourced. I have a number of branches (not as important as my main line, >> but still of interest) with names, dates, children, spouses, etc that are >> found on family trees on ancestry.com without sources. The information is so >> specific it seems they have family knowledge so I hate to leave those >> individuals out of my tree. But I would like some way to identify them as >> unsourced. I suppose there is a "report" that wil show me a list of unsouced >> individuals; I haven't come to the point yet of using reports since I'm >> still working on cleaning up my database. >> >> I've sent messages to several of the owners of the trees, but rarely receive >> an answer. >> >> I know there are colors to use in Legacy, but those are used for family >> lines, is that not correct? I'm thinking of adding something in parenthesis >> after the given name of these individuals - Maybe in the prefix option - >> such as NS for "not sourced." Would that be a mistake? Is there a better way >> to tell at a glance when a family is pulled up, without having to go into >> each individuals window? I have enough cleanup to do on main family lines >> before I start on the branches that are further out. But I hate to leave out >> information that I hopefully will be able to check more throughougly later. >> >> Would appreciate your thoughts. Peggy >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Cleaning up Location List (Geo options)
I had hoped that when I installed the geo database, I could use the "button" and it would give me one or more of the missing parts, such as county, or province. If I enter something into the field it will give me suggestions based on what I'm entering, but no help when I don't have any idea of what to enter. If I've already entered the full location, it will pull that up; but not for locations I haven't entered. When the source - right now those I'm finding on ancestry- lists a location, it doesn't always include the county or province. The places I know work out, because I know the county, but many are not familiar. How do you find the complete information to enter into your location database? And where do you check the information for older locations, where county lines, for instance might have changed? Is there a website that gives good information on United States and Canadian counties. I don't know if the locations in Ireland or England (I have a few) should have four fields and if not, where would I put them? How do I know the equivelent to towns, townships, counties for different countries? Are there good websites out there to help? I've used google, but the results aren't always clear and it is more time taking than it would be if there were a website dedicated to this. Also how do you include the township information? I've been adding it to the city (if there is one) in parenthesis. Is that going to be a problem somewhere in the future? Thanks! Peggy (feeling more and more like a newbie every day) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with the "I think" and "maybe" individuals?
Peggy: The source icon is Grey if there are no souces for an individual in the family view. You could add a new Master source called UNSOURCED and attach that to each person you have unsourced and then you can see a list of people who have that source named UNSOURCED. ___ Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com - On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Marg Strong wrote: > > When I read this (posted as a comment in another topic) I wondered again if > there was a way to put individuals into your tree and identify them as > unsourced. I have a number of branches (not as important as my main line, > but still of interest) with names, dates, children, spouses, etc that are > found on family trees on ancestry.com without sources. The information is so > specific it seems they have family knowledge so I hate to leave those > individuals out of my tree. But I would like some way to identify them as > unsourced. I suppose there is a "report" that wil show me a list of unsouced > individuals; I haven't come to the point yet of using reports since I'm > still working on cleaning up my database. > > I've sent messages to several of the owners of the trees, but rarely receive > an answer. > > I know there are colors to use in Legacy, but those are used for family > lines, is that not correct? I'm thinking of adding something in parenthesis > after the given name of these individuals - Maybe in the prefix option - > such as NS for "not sourced." Would that be a mistake? Is there a better way > to tell at a glance when a family is pulled up, without having to go into > each individuals window? I have enough cleanup to do on main family lines > before I start on the branches that are further out. But I hate to leave out > information that I hopefully will be able to check more throughougly later. > > Would appreciate your thoughts. Peggy > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] What to do with the "I think" and "maybe" individuals?
When I read this (posted as a comment in another topic) I wondered again if there was a way to put individuals into your tree and identify them as unsourced. I have a number of branches (not as important as my main line, but still of interest) with names, dates, children, spouses, etc that are found on family trees on ancestry.com without sources. The information is so specific it seems they have family knowledge so I hate to leave those individuals out of my tree. But I would like some way to identify them as unsourced. I suppose there is a "report" that wil show me a list of unsouced individuals; I haven't come to the point yet of using reports since I'm still working on cleaning up my database. I've sent messages to several of the owners of the trees, but rarely receive an answer. I know there are colors to use in Legacy, but those are used for family lines, is that not correct? I'm thinking of adding something in parenthesis after the given name of these individuals - Maybe in the prefix option - such as NS for "not sourced." Would that be a mistake? Is there a better way to tell at a glance when a family is pulled up, without having to go into each individuals window? I have enough cleanup to do on main family lines before I start on the branches that are further out. But I hate to leave out information that I hopefully will be able to check more throughougly later. Would appreciate your thoughts. Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event
On 19/04/2012 20:36, Marli Yoder wrote: > Please explain source verses event. An Event (or a Fact) is something which happened. A Source is the proof that something happened. In the case of a Census, it can be both a Source and a Fact: John Doe appeared on the Census; that's a fact. John Doe lived in New York; that's a fact. The image of a page from the Census with John Doe's entry is proof of the fact that he was enumerated in that Census and proof that he lived in New York. Some people use Census documents only as proof (a Source) for the various pieces of information contained therein, such as address, place of birth etc. Other people like to have a Census Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source vs. event
Marli, Basically an Event/Fact is something that happened to an individual, or fact relating to an individual eg. you may consider the place where a person lived as a Fact, but the act of moving in as an Event. A Source is the originator of the evidence which identifies the Event eg. in the case of say, a Residence Event/Fact in England the Source maybe a census. Confusion can arise with a census. Some people (not me) consider that a census is an Event, and hence create a Census Event. The details which are included in that Event are sourced by the census organised by the Government. Hope that helps. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Marli Yoder Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event Please explain source verses event. I use "Missouri, St. Louis 1900 Federal Census" as a SOURCE. Then I attach it as a Census EVENT to each individual that is referenced in that event. I do not "add individuals that are not part of the family", but I do transcribe them. Am I understanding how you are using the Source? (This is an example only) Some sound like they make a new Source for each time they use it? I do remember that each persons way is right, but I'm confused. (as usual) Marli Yoder A& M Farms Eureka & Sturgeon From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 2:21:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census Marilyn, I always attached the image of every source to the Source Detail, largely because when I get a piece of new information which seems to conflict with my record I can easily, and quickly, refer back to the original image(s) from which I drew my conclusions. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Marilyn Clark Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe household". I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point I add them as individuals in my family file. I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
I understand, Sherry, but I did not receive the file as a GEDCOM, but as a Legacy file. I will ask the person who sent it if he can do it again using the settings you suggest. Regards, Jennifer From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012 12:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event Legacy imported correctly. When you're doing the import, click on the Customize button and select the option "Convert the GEDCOM tab BAPM to CHR while importing" Then those events will be correctly imported into Legacy. If you leave it as BAPM, the data imports as an event. The Help file for 'GEDCOM Items to Import: states Baptism versus Christening Some genealogy programs export christening information into a GEDCOM file using the BAPM tag instead of CHR. You can have Legacy put this information into the Christening fields during the import rather than having a Baptism event created in the Event List by selecting this option. If you created a new file with the gedcom (as you always should before importing that into your main Family File), just delete that import and start over. If you imported directly into your Family File, restore the backup you created before you did the import and try again with the setting mentioned above. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Jennifer Crockett wrote: I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it up quite a bit. One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it more easily and quickly? Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Yes, Richard, the event is a non-primary event. I want to transfer the date and location to the primary Christening/Baptism e event. I did not receive the file as a GEDCOM. The person who sent it to me, who uses TMG, exported to a Legacy file. Regards, Jennifer -Original Message- From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012 12:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event Are you saying baptisms are now some sort of non-primary event/fact other than the normal Christening/Baptism? And you want to transfer the date & location to the Birth Event? or the primary Christening/Baptism? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Jennifer Crockett wrote: > > Thanks Ron. > > I would like to give the Access method a try. I have the program, but would > need instructions, off list probably, if you or anyone else would like to > tell me how. > > Regards, > > Jennifer > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 5:06 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event > > Jennifer, > > I know of know no way of doing this without using Access. Personally, I > would be tempted to leave it as is, and just make the changes when verifying > the data a introducing a record into my main file. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Jennifer Crockett wrote: > > >I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy > >compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it > >up quite a bit. > > > >One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I > >want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how > >to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it > >more easily and quickly? > > > >Regards, > > > >Jennifer > >http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
Paula, I do not really see where you are coming from here. I am a lumper and I have census Master Sources for each census year. Currently each year covers the whole of England, Wales and Scotland, Ireland I treat separately. I have over 6,000 records in my DB, so even at an average of 4 individuals/census this would give me 1,500 census images. Most of my records come from 4 counties, so even with and even split I would have on average 475 census images/ county. This is far too many for me to even consider searching in order to find a specific one. I think that I must be misunderstanding you somewhere along the line, but cannot see where. I will keep adding them to each individual Source Details where I can find them in 2 clicks. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Paula Ryburn Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? Yes, if you attach / link the images to the detail citations, then the images are out there with the individuals, not in the source master list. Just a consideration. I mean, I also have a naming convention for the images themselves that keeps counties together on the hard drive, so I could just as easily look at them there, I suppose. --Paula From: julia m To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 9:18:11 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? That's interesting, I never thought of it that way. I usually attach the census image in the Detail section, but I see it can be attached to the master source. I also set up the census sources by county. Julia Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:29:10 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > > I attach my images to the master source, but then I am a bit of a "lumper" > and have my census sources set up by county in the US. This way all the > images I have for a county are available in one place. So far it works > for me. > > --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourse vs. event
Please explain source verses event. I use "Missouri, St. Louis 1900 Federal Census" as a SOURCE. Then I attach it as a Census EVENT to each individual that is referenced in that event. I do not "add individuals that are not part of the family", but I do transcribe them. Am I understanding how you are using the Source? (This is an example only) Some sound like they make a new Source for each time they use it? I do remember that each persons way is right, but I'm confused. (as usual) Marli Yoder A& M Farms Eureka & Sturgeon From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 2:21:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census Marilyn, I always attached the image of every source to the Source Detail, largely because when I get a piece of new information which seems to conflict with my record I can easily, and quickly, refer back to the original image(s) from which I drew my conclusions. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Marilyn Clark Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe household". I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point I add them as individuals in my family file. I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
Yes, if you attach / link the images to the detail citations, then the images are out there with the individuals, not in the source master list. Just a consideration. I mean, I also have a naming convention for the images themselves that keeps counties together on the hard drive, so I could just as easily look at them there, I suppose. --Paula From: julia m To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 19, 2012 9:18:11 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? That's interesting, I never thought of it that way. I usually attach the census image in the Detail section, but I see it can be attached to the master source. I also set up the census sources by county. Julia Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:29:10 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > > I attach my images to the master source, but then I am a bit of a "lumper" and >have my census sources set up by county in the US. This way all the images I >have for a county are available in one place. So far it works for me. > >--Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census
Marilyn, I always attached the image of every source to the Source Detail, largely because when I get a piece of new information which seems to conflict with my record I can easily, and quickly, refer back to the original image(s) from which I drew my conclusions. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Marilyn Clark Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe household". I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point I add them as individuals in my family file. I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census
I have not attached any census images, (in fact, I don't even download any census images); I only transcribe the census and attach the full transcription as a source to each person listed on the census. On the SourceWriter field that asks for "ID of individual" I put "John Doe household". I do, however, include everyone in the household, whether servants, lodgers, visitors, etc. Sometimes these turn out to be family members, at which point I add them as individuals in my family file. I don't use "Census" Event either. I do use "Residence" event for everyone on the census, and if there is an occupation, I also do an "Occupation" event. I use the source clipboard to make it quick and easy. Marilyn > > From: Jenny M Benson >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census > >On 19/04/2012 15:28, Charles Apple wrote: >> I have noticed in responses to another related census thread that many *do >> not" record non family members, i.e., visitors, servants, boarders, etc. > > *snip* > >I also record the name of the head of the household and his/her >occupation (and mention his/her family if there is one) when my family >member is the visitor/boarder/lodger/servant in the household. > >As you say, it is often beneficial because further research can >sometimes show that a visitor or whatever is, in fact, a member of the >extended family or the future husband/wife of a family member. > >-- >Jenny M Benson > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census
And keep in mind that unlinked people are not a problem - I add them as unlinked and copy the census information. Later as sometimes happens (when there is a marriage) you can link them! -- Tessa Keough Guild No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users Group Surnames - Keough, Murphy, Aylward, Kocevar, Lidman, Zagradisnik Places - Ireland, Newfoundland, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, USA (New York, Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, Washington) Blogs - The Keough Corner and Scandia Musings & More On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: > > On 19/04/2012 15:28, Charles Apple wrote: > > I have noticed in responses to another related census thread that many *do > > not" record non family members, i.e., visitors, servants, boarders, etc. I > > would like to point out that in at least one circumstance my widowed great > > grandmother took in boarders. Later she married one of those boarders who > > would then be my great grandfather albeit by marriage. Her deceased husband > > was my biological great grandfather. > > > > At least in this case, it was beneficial to have recorded all household > > members including boarders. > > I mention all "extras" - visitors, lodgers, boarders, servants etc in > the Notes, where I also list all the "family members" who have their own > entry in my family file. I usually mention these people by name, except > in the case of servants. > > I also record the name of the head of the household and his/her > occupation (and mention his/her family if there is one) when my family > member is the visitor/boarder/lodger/servant in the household. > > As you say, it is often beneficial because further research can > sometimes show that a visitor or whatever is, in fact, a member of the > extended family or the future husband/wife of a family member. > > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Copy Custom Colors
Rita, You need to Save your settings in Options>Customise>Colours - I am not sure where the default is, as I have changed mine, but it is in the Legacy folder. Make a note of it and copy over to the same place in your new machine. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Rita Lynn McKale wrote: >Is there a way to copy my custom colors from one computer to another. I >have them set just as I like them on my desktop and I have been trying to >match them on my laptop and can't seem to get them exactly the same. > >Thanks, >Rita in South Carolina > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Copy Custom Colors
Your custom colours, if you have saved them, are in the c:\Legacy\Colorschemes folder. When you saved them you should have given them a unique name so look for the .lcs file with that name and copy it to your other machine. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2012 11:18 AM, Rita Lynn McKale wrote: > Is there a way to copy my custom colors from one computer to another. I > have them set just as I like them on my desktop and I have been trying to > match them on my laptop and can't seem to get them exactly the same. > > Thanks, > Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Copy Custom Colors
Is there a way to copy my custom colors from one computer to another. I have them set just as I like them on my desktop and I have been trying to match them on my laptop and can't seem to get them exactly the same. Thanks, Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Despite the number of events that have to be converted I suggest you do them individually. There are differences in the data that can be stored as an event and the data that can be stored with the vital events of Born, Bapt/Chr, Died and Burial in the main part of the individual edit screen. The most serious of these is that any entry in the Event Description will not move since there is no Description field in the vital events where this can be stored. By doing each item separately you can make sure that all the data for the Baptism events are copied correctly to the Bapt/Chr portion of the screen and you may elect to keep the separate events if there is data in the Description that you want to preserve. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2012 3:48 AM, Jennifer Crockett wrote: > I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy > compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it > up quite a bit. > > One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I > want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how > to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it > more easily and quickly? > > Regards, > > Jennifer > http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census
On 19/04/2012 15:28, Charles Apple wrote: > I have noticed in responses to another related census thread that many *do > not" record non family members, i.e., visitors, servants, boarders, etc. I > would like to point out that in at least one circumstance my widowed great > grandmother took in boarders. Later she married one of those boarders who > would then be my great grandfather albeit by marriage. Her deceased husband > was my biological great grandfather. > > At least in this case, it was beneficial to have recorded all household > members including boarders. I mention all "extras" - visitors, lodgers, boarders, servants etc in the Notes, where I also list all the "family members" who have their own entry in my family file. I usually mention these people by name, except in the case of servants. I also record the name of the head of the household and his/her occupation (and mention his/her family if there is one) when my family member is the visitor/boarder/lodger/servant in the household. As you say, it is often beneficial because further research can sometimes show that a visitor or whatever is, in fact, a member of the extended family or the future husband/wife of a family member. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census
I transcribe the census with all of the persons listed. I don't add the unknown persons into my database though until I am able to make the connection of who they are. I definitely want to see their name on the transcription or I would never be able to make the connection. Michele -Original Message- From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@centurylink.net] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Non Family Members on Census I have noticed in responses to another related census thread that many *do not" record non family members, i.e., visitors, servants, boarders, etc. I would like to point out that in at least one circumstance my widowed great grandmother took in boarders. Later she married one of those boarders who would then be my great grandfather albeit by marriage. Her deceased husband was my biological great grandfather. At least in this case, it was beneficial to have recorded all household members including boarders. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
That's interesting, I never thought of it that way. I usually attach the census image in the Detail section, but I see it can be attached to the master source. I also set up the census sources by county. Julia Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:29:10 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > > I attach my images to the master source, but then I am a bit of a "lumper" > and have my census sources set up by county in the US. This way all the > images I have for a county are available in one place. So far it works for > me.>>--Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Are you saying baptisms are now some sort of non-primary event/fact other than the normal Christening/Baptism? And you want to transfer the date & location to the Birth Event? or the primary Christening/Baptism? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Jennifer Crockett wrote: > > Thanks Ron. > > I would like to give the Access method a try. I have the program, but would > need instructions, off list probably, if you or anyone else would like to > tell me how. > > Regards, > > Jennifer > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 5:06 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event > > Jennifer, > > I know of know no way of doing this without using Access. Personally, I > would be tempted to leave it as is, and just make the changes when verifying > the data a introducing a record into my main file. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Jennifer Crockett wrote: > > >I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy > >compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it > >up quite a bit. > > > >One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I > >want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how > >to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it > >more easily and quickly? > > > >Regards, > > > >Jennifer > >http://colston-wenck.com > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
I’m sorry Jennifer, but I cannot help you with this, as I do not use Access. I use OpenOffice.org Base, and the SQL, and commands, are not the same as for Access. Hopefully someone with Access knowledge can write the SQL script, and and send it to you (with instructions) as you requested. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:44 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism event Thanks Ron. I would like to give the Access method a try. I have the program, but would need instructions, off list probably, if you or anyone else would like to tell me how. Regards, Jennifer -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 5:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event Jennifer, I know of know no way of doing this without using Access. Personally, I would be tempted to leave it as is, and just make the changes when verifying the data a introducing a record into my main file. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jennifer Crockett wrote: >I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy >compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it >up quite a bit. > >One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I >want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how >to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it >more easily and quickly? > >Regards, > >Jennifer >http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source?
Julia, Unlike some, I do not have a Census Event, but everybody on the census record does have a Residence Event (although I do not include non-family members, except in unusual circumstances!). I attach the census image to the Source for this Event, and hence everyone named has the image path attached to their Residence Event. The same source, with the attached image path, is used for any other Events recorded for the individual(s), which may include the Vital Events, and others - such as Occupation. Thus, all the people recorded in my files have the image attached from every Source which I use for them, which may include, BMDs, war records etc. etc.. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: julia m Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Do you attach a census image for every single source? I would like to know how other people handle the attaching of census images for their sources. Do you attach a census image for every census source used? Or do you only attach the image just for direct lines and transcribe it in the source detail for extended families? Thanks! Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Thanks Ron. I would like to give the Access method a try. I have the program, but would need instructions, off list probably, if you or anyone else would like to tell me how. Regards, Jennifer -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2012 5:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event Jennifer, I know of know no way of doing this without using Access. Personally, I would be tempted to leave it as is, and just make the changes when verifying the data a introducing a record into my main file. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jennifer Crockett wrote: >I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy >compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it >up quite a bit. > >One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I >want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how >to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it >more easily and quickly? > >Regards, > >Jennifer >http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event
Jennifer, I know of know no way of doing this without using Access. Personally, I would be tempted to leave it as is, and just make the changes when verifying the data a introducing a record into my main file. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jennifer Crockett wrote: >I have received a file from a TMG user who converted it into a Legacy >compatible file. I opened it as a separate Legacy file and need to tidy it >up quite a bit. > >One thing is that all the Baptism events have ended up in Events/Facts and I >want to convert them to be listed with the main data under Born. I know how >to do this individually, but there are hundreds. Any ideas on how to do it >more easily and quickly? > >Regards, > >Jennifer >http://colston-wenck.com > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
