RE: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Lee Bruch]

Yes, below seems workable. Or like I do, you could buy a small portable hard 
drive (they are now quite small physically but hold many GB) and carry that 
with you plugging it into ea of your computers as you work. You would use that 
as your own personal cloud, just like it were dropbox, etc. (Make sure each 
computer remembers the portable hard drive with the same name).
Whatever you do, make sure you have a safe backup.


-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

In regards to your photos it looked from your screenshot that you had your 
linked files on at least 6 different drives. You said 3 computers so I'm 
guessing the other 3 are external hard-drives or flash-drives. ??

I'm wondering if you have backups for any of these? Or are the files being used 
directly from this variety of locations with no backup? That would be a bad 
idea.

Are all the files in these different drive and folder locations linked into 
your Legacy database? With 3 computers, the ones linked to Legacy need to be in 
a location like a cloud service that's installed on each computer, OR an 
external drive that you plug into each computer.

What I would suggest is that you put all your genealogy folders in one 
location. For Legacy-linked files, will they fit into something like 2Gb free 
on Dropbox or 5Gb free on Google Drive? That way you can link to them all at 
that one location from your different computers.

Once you decide where they're going to be and put them there, you can go to 
Options/Customize/Locations/View Current List of Multimedia Locations and 
"Change" each file-path to point to where you've put the files. This will save 
you having to re-link every one of them.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/







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Re: [LegacyUG] Search the IGI

[Sherry/Support]

The IGI Search as it was is no longer available.  The church is
incorporating it into their main website.

Please update to the latest build 7.5.0.201, which has notification of
this when you go to the search.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Tony Rolfe  wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea why the "Search > Search the IGI Website"
> facility in Legacy is behaving peculiarly?
>
> I used (several months ago) to be able to go there and then search for
> the current person, simply by clicking "search".
>
> Now, it starts up and, after 2-3 seconds, goes into the "waiting for a
> family search imposed 33 second delay" countdown for 33 seconds, goes
> into search mode for less than 1 second, repeats the countdown etc.
>
> Nothing is able to complete.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony



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[LegacyUG] Search the IGI

[Tony Rolfe]

Does anyone have any idea why the "Search > Search the IGI Website"
facility in Legacy is behaving peculiarly?

I used (several months ago) to be able to go there and then search for
the current person, simply by clicking "search".

Now, it starts up and, after 2-3 seconds, goes into the "waiting for a
family search imposed 33 second delay" countdown for 33 seconds, goes
into search mode for less than 1 second, repeats the countdown etc.

Nothing is able to complete.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing pictures

[Pat Hickin]

I have a system that in some ways is simple; in some ways complicated.
Personally I LOVE it!

For ALL the pics in my Legacy family database I have them in a folder in My
Pictures called "LEGACY-P" (for paternal side). (I have my paternal &
maternal lines in separate databases--works for me)

For pictures that are NOT people I name them
__BKGR_COUNTRY_ST_COUNTY_name of picture,
or __BLDG_ COUNTRY_ST_COUNTY_ name of bldg,
or __CEM_ . . . ;
 __CENS;
__DOC, etc.

For people, I show how they're related to my paternal name (Prickett),
e.g.,\

P_McC_Be_WHITE_WALKER_Susan m HENRY (for one of my 4 grgr grandmothers.
(stands for Prickett, McConnell (my grandfather's wife; Beatie (her
mother), White (her mother), Walker (her mother, who married John Henry).

Whereas P_John b c1630 is my paternal 7x grgrandfather;
P_John b c1695 is my paternal 5x grgrandfather.

This system may sound complicated in a way, but it means I can locate all
sorts of different pictures very easily, and that people in the same family
are pretty much grouped together.

Incidentally when I compress a picture while saving it I add a '-cmpr' at
the end of the filename.

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Brian/Support]

The only thing included in the family file is a link to the photo file,
the photo's themselves are NOT included. The new backup in Legacy 7 will
backup both your data and your photo files but these are in two separate
.zip files, one for the data and the second for photos.

When you restore using Legacy you can only restore the data files. To
restore the photo files you have to extract them from the multimedia
backup .zip file using Windows or another .zip file manager. When
extracting the photo files if you restore them to the original paths
Legacy should find them. If you extract them to a different location
Legacy will not be able to find the files.

Brian
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On 23/07/2012 18:42, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> The projects are separate so I assume the file  names will be different.
> But all family photo's for a specific family should be  in the same file. Yes?
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
> Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
> ---
> CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
> license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/23/2012 3:17:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk writes:
>
> Marie,
>
> There is one further question, I'm afraid, but the  answer may well save
> you
> a great deal of time! Are the file names all  different, or may some be the
> same?
>
> Ron  Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: mvmc...@aol.com
> Sent:  Monday, July 23, 2012 8:06 PM
> To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for  pictures
>
>
> I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture  [JPG] of the
> listings and they appear to be all over the place.
>
> I  use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have
>
> several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my
> husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.
> When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big
> a
> deal.
>
> I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from  machine to machine.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG,  CGL
> Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
> ---
> CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
> under
> license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
> evaluations.
>
> In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
> grayp...@telus.net writes:
>
>
> Marie,
>
>
>
> OK.  First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then
> Master
> Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very
> last part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look
> like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there
> somewhere?
> If so, it looks like they are in your user  area.
>
>
>
> When you say using the restore function, are you talking  the Legacy backup
> and restore, or something  else?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi  Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the response. Actually I'm  going between 3 computer. A desk top
> in VA, a laptop that I take for  research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on
> all  machines.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As to path I don't have a clue. I  just scanned them and assumed they would
> go into the Legacy folder and  transfer the same way the data  transfers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman  Melchiori, CG, CGL
> Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
> ---
> CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
> under
> license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
> evaluations.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[JLB]

In regards to your photos it looked from your screenshot that you had
your linked files on at least 6 different drives. You said 3 computers
so I'm guessing the other 3 are external hard-drives or flash-drives. ??

I'm wondering if you have backups for any of these? Or are the files
being used directly from this variety of locations with no backup? That
would be a bad idea.

Are all the files in these different drive and folder locations linked
into your Legacy database? With 3 computers, the ones linked to Legacy
need to be in a location like a cloud service that's installed on each
computer, OR an external drive that you plug into each computer.

What I would suggest is that you put all your genealogy folders in one
location. For Legacy-linked files, will they fit into something like 2Gb
free on Dropbox or 5Gb free on Google Drive? That way you can link to
them all at that one location from your different computers.

Once you decide where they're going to be and put them there, you can go
to Options/Customize/Locations/View Current List of Multimedia Locations
and "Change" each file-path to point to where you've put the files. This
will save you having to re-link every one of them.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/23/2012 3:44 PM, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> I use the Legacy "backup" when I close a computer than use Legacy
> "restore" when I upload the family to the next computer.
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./
> ---
> CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
> under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
> evaluations.
> In a message dated 7/23/2012 3:18:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> j...@jgen.ws writes:
>
> No attachments please. It's against the LUG guidelines.
>
> I guess you could try moving them into one location. Or leave them
> where
> they are. "Assuming" they're going to go into a specific folder such as
> Legacy is not working obviously. If you keep them all in a folder in
> Dropbox, for instance, you could link to them from there and that might
> work on all your computers. I don't understand your setup overall; i.e.
> how you're syncing between three computers.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 7/23/2012 12:06 PM, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
>  > I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG]
> of the
>  > listings and they appear to be all over the place.
>  > I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I
>  > have several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are
> separate as
>  > is my husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and
> sons in
>  > law. When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem
>  > that big a deal.
>  > I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to
> machine.
>  > Marie
>  >
>  > Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
>  > Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./
>  > ---
>  > CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical
> Lecturer are
>  > service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® ,
> used
>  > under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
>  > evaluations.
>  > In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  > grayp...@telus.net writes:
>  >
>  > Marie,
>  >
>  > OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View,
> then
>  > Master Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything
>  > except the very last part the file name itself) should be listed.
>  > What do the paths look like, is your XP user name, or
> ‘documents and
>  > Settings’ in there somewhere? If so, it looks like they are in 
> your
>  > user area.
>  >
>  > When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy
>  > backup and restore, or something else?
>  >
>  > Paul
>  >
>  > Hi Paul,
>  >
>  > Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A
>  > desk top in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in
>  > NJ. I use XP on all machines.
>  >
>  > As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they
>  > would go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data
>  > transfers.
>  >
>  > Marie
>  >
>  > Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
>  > //Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./
>  > ---

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Ron Ferguson]

Marie,

I am unsure if we are talking about the same thing. The file name is the
name which you give to the picture when saving it eg. "JoeBlogs.jpg", the
folders will be different if you have a separate folder for each family, but
that constitutes part of the path not the file name eg. for a folder on your
C drive that would be C:\Blogs\JoeBlogs.jpg.

The point is that *if* and *only if* the file names are different for each
family member, then you could move them to the appropriate named family
folder. Then find a picture which Legacy has lost, opt to find it yourself,
and in the dialog which will be displayed go to the folder for that picture
and Legacy will then find all those in the folder.

As has already been said, if your family folders are put in the Legacy
Picture folder, usually at C:\Legacy\Pictures\, then it will be easy to
transfer them to another machine, and for Legacy to find them.

I hope that is clear

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures


The projects are separate so I assume the file names will be different. But
all family photo's for a specific family should be in the same file. Yes?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 3:17:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Marie,

There is one further question, I'm afraid, but the answer may well save you
a great deal of time! Are the file names all different, or may some be the
same?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures


I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG] of the
listings and they appear to be all over the place.

I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have
several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my
husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.
When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big a
deal.

I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to machine.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
grayp...@telus.net writes:


Marie,



OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then
Master
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very
last part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look
like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there
somewhere?
If so, it looks like they are in your user area.



When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy backup
and restore, or something else?



Paul







Hi Paul,







Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk top
in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on
all machines.







As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they would
go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data transfers.







Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[MVMcgrs]

I use the Legacy "backup" when I close a computer  than use  Legacy
"restore" when I upload the family to the next  computer.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 3:18:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, j...@jgen.ws
 writes:

No  attachments please. It's against the LUG guidelines.

I guess you could  try moving them into one location. Or leave them where
they are.  "Assuming" they're going to go into a specific folder such as
Legacy is  not working obviously. If you keep them all in a folder in
Dropbox, for  instance, you could link to them from there and that might
work on all  your computers. I don't understand your setup overall; i.e.
how you're  syncing between three computers.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer  technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/23/2012  12:06 PM, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> I think I have a very large mess. I  made a screen capture [JPG] of the
> listings and they appear to be all  over the place.
> I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating  the project. I
> have several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad  are separate as
> is my husbands, a one name study and then my daughter  in law and sons in
> law. When I started 35 years ago with pencil and  paper it didn't seem
> that big a deal.
> I use "restore" in  Legacy when I move the project from machine to
machine.
>  Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
> Melchiori  Research Services, L.L.C./
>  ---
> CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
>  service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
>  under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
>  evaluations.
> In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
> grayp...@telus.net writes:
>
>   Marie,
>
> OK. First, let’s go  looking for them. In Legacy, click on View,
then
>  Master Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything
>   except the very last part the file name itself) should be  listed.
> What do the paths look like, is your XP  user name, or ‘documents
and
> Settings’ in there  somewhere? If so, it looks like they are in
your
>  user area.
>
> When you say using the restore  function, are you talking the Legacy
> backup and  restore, or something else?
>
>  Paul
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>   Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer.  A
> desk top in VA, a laptop that I take for research  and a desk top in
> NJ. I use XP on all  machines.
>
> As to path I don't have a clue. I  just scanned them and assumed they
> would go into  the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data
>   transfers.
>
>  Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG,  CGL/
> //Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C./
>  ---
>   CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical  Lecturer
> are service marks of the Board for  Certification of Genealogists ® ,
> used under  license by Board-certified associates after periodic
>   competency evaluations.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[MVMcgrs]

The projects are separate so I assume the file  names will be different.
But all family photo's for a specific family should be  in the same file. Yes?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
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service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 3:17:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Marie,

There is one further question, I'm afraid, but the  answer may well save
you
a great deal of time! Are the file names all  different, or may some be the
same?

Ron  Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: mvmc...@aol.com
Sent:  Monday, July 23, 2012 8:06 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for  pictures


I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture  [JPG] of the
listings and they appear to be all over the place.

I  use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have

several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my
husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.
When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big
a
deal.

I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from  machine to machine.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG,  CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
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service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
grayp...@telus.net writes:


Marie,



OK.  First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then
Master
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very
last part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look
like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there
somewhere?
If so, it looks like they are in your user  area.



When you say using the restore function, are you talking  the Legacy backup
and restore, or something  else?



Paul







Hi  Paul,







Thanks for the response. Actually I'm  going between 3 computer. A desk top
in VA, a laptop that I take for  research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on
all  machines.







As to path I don't have a clue. I  just scanned them and assumed they would
go into the Legacy folder and  transfer the same way the data  transfers.







Marie

Marie Varrelman  Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
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service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
evaluations.











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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Ron Ferguson]

and that is exactly how I would do it, Syble :-)

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Syble Glasscock
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright


Well, I'm more of a "clumper" as I think Ron Ferguson would call it.   My
Event notes has something like this
" Information, personal & tombstone photo submitted by:" and I give  the
name and date, with other information depending on the situation such as
tombstone Inscription if it's a very old stone,
then My source is findagrave.com, under Details, I add the URL for the
particular memorial.  Doing it this way I can have the Source
"findagrave.com" on my clipboard, and only have to add the URL to the
details, then I or anyone else can find the webpage for the memorial.   Of
course, I more interested in wepages from Legacy than I am in writing a
book.
Syble



From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright



I have requested photos from Find-A-Grave many times and everyone I have
asked has enthusiastically granted permission.  I too give credit to the
photographer in my citations after I read something that Thomas MacEntree
wrote about it.  This is what my citation looks like:


"Find A Grave.com," digital images (http://www.findagrave.com), F. C. and
Martha Wood double marker, photograph by Sara Newman; Red Hill Baptist
Church Cemetery, Edgefield County, South Carolina.


Michele



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

I never take photographs from findagrave without asking and getting the
submitter permission, so it's got to be very important to go through that
process, but I do sometimes and show "provided by" and give the name. When I
add findagrave records, I say "Record submitted by" and the name.  I record
what they've submitted and then add the URL.  Of course, I'd love to have
that photo for my files, but I just record that a photo has been added and
by whom.

  I've searched findagrave and found where they alow snipits of partial
information to be submitted onto memorials, but didn't find anything about
taking snipits from a memorial.

Thanks to Tim for the "Copyright Fundamentals for Genealogy" URL.  Here's an
example: "copies the pages and posts small, significant portions from them
online".  This comes under the "fair use" copyright law.
Thanks,
Syble

Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman,
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards,
Waters, Wheat
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

Syble,

It rather depends on the terms & conditions of FindaGrave. I don't know
them, so I would suggest that you read them. Copyright of an image usually
belongs to the photographer (for a long, long time), but this may have been
passed to FindaGrave, who could then apply their own conditions for
reproduction.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Syble Glasscock
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this
against copyright rules?
Thanks,
Syble


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Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards,
Waters, Wheat






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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Mary Trogg]

Maybe I can clear a few things up about find A Grave.

Yes, it is permissible to use the photos, for personal use in Legacy. I
do it all the time. You just can't re-publish without permission. Check
the contributor's page for permission. I use the grave template in
Source writer and credit the photographer. This is because the copyright
remains with the photographer. If there is a bio on the page, I also
cite the memorial manager. Find A Grave keeps a copyright only for their
format.

Off topic, Find A Grave has NOT transferred rights to Ancestry. Ancestry
is browsing the site, much like Google and posting links to pages. They
have not posted photos. If someone has used your photos, you will have
to file a take-down claim with Ancestry and they will be removed. You
may email me for directions.

Mary

On 7/23/2012 3:50 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
> I've submitted much information to their website, including two
> cemetery surveys with photos of each tombstone, and was a little
> annoyed that they gave the rights to others like ancestry.com, and
> I've found many of my photos without my consent on ancestry family
> trees and no mention of where the photo came from.
> Thanks,
> Syble
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Syble Glasscock]

Well, I'm more of a "clumper" as I think Ron Ferguson would call it.   My Event 
notes has something like this
" Information, personal & tombstone photo submitted by:" and I give  the name 
and date, with other information depending on the situation such as tombstone 
Inscription if it's a very old stone,
 then My source is findagrave.com, under Details, I add the URL for the 
particular memorial.  Doing it this way I can have the Source "findagrave.com" 
on my clipboard, and only have to add the URL to the details, then I or anyone 
else can find the webpage for the memorial.   Of course, I more interested in 
wepages from Legacy than I am in writing a book.
Syble 
 



From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright


>I have requested photos from Find-A-Grave many times and everyone I have asked 
>has enthusiastically granted permission.  I too give credit to the 
>photographer in my citations after I read something that Thomas MacEntree 
>wrote about it.  This is what my citation looks like:
>
>
>"Find A Grave.com," digital images (http://www.findagrave.com), F. C. and 
>Martha Wood double marker, photograph by Sara Newman; Red Hill Baptist Church 
>Cemetery, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
>
>
>    Michele
>
>
>
>From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:27 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>I never take photographs from findagrave without asking and getting the 
>submitter permission, so it's got to be very important to go through that 
>process, but I do sometimes and show "provided by" and give the name. When I 
>add findagrave records, I say "Record submitted by" and the name.  I record 
>what they've submitted and then add the URL.  Of course, I'd love to have that 
>photo for my files, but I just record that a photo has been added and by whom.
>
>  I've searched findagrave and found where they alow snipits of partial 
>information to be submitted onto memorials, but didn't find anything about 
>taking snipits from a memorial.
>
>Thanks to Tim for the "Copyright Fundamentals for Genealogy" URL.  Here's an 
>example: "copies the pages and posts small, significant portions from them 
>online".  This comes under the "fair use" copyright law.
>Thanks,
>Syble
>
>Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
>Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
>Wheat
>From: Ron Ferguson 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>Syble,
>
>It rather depends on the terms & conditions of FindaGrave. I don't know
>them, so I would suggest that you read them. Copyright of an image usually
>belongs to the photographer (for a long, long time), but this may have been
>passed to FindaGrave, who could then apply their own conditions for
>reproduction.
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>From: Syble Glasscock
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:38 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the
>source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this
>against copyright rules?
>Thanks,
>Syble
>
>
>Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman,
>Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards,
>Waters, Wheat
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Syble Glasscock]

Yes, I understand and do cite the data from findagrave into Legacy. My concern 
came with the Snipits.  It's a great way to capture in the form of a jpg the 
information, not the photo for our Legacy files.
 
 I guess from the line below  that the information then becomes the property of 
findagrave, I'd not seen this,  "Please feel free to cite Find A Grave in your 
bibliographies, lists of references, etc. in whatever format you deem 
appropriate."  Whatever format, should include Snipits.
 
I've submitted much information to their website, including two cemetery 
surveys with photos of each tombstone, and was a little annoyed that they gave 
the rights to others like ancestry.com, and I've found many of my photos 
without my consent on ancestry family trees and no mention of where the photo 
came from. 
Thanks,
Syble


>
> From: Jack Earnshaw 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>
>On their web site there is an FAQ section which includes
>How do I cite Find A Grave in a bibliography?
>Please feel free to cite Find A Grave in your bibliographies, lists of 
>references, etc. in whatever format you deem appropriate. Please note that, 
>while Jim Tipton is the creator of Find A Grave, he is not the author of all 
>of the content. If the information you are referencing includes a "bio by 
>XXX" line, please cite that author as well.
>Sample citation: Bio Author. "Web Page Title". Find A Grave. Date of (your) 
>access.
>Sample citation: Bio Author. "John Doe". Find A Grave. 6-1-2008. [Top]
> 
>So, it would appear that they are happy for you to cite the data you find
> 
>Jack
> 
>From:Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
>Sent: 23 July 2012 20:38
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
> 
>I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the 
>source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this 
>against copyright rules? 
>Thanks,
>Syble
> 
>Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
>Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
>Wheat
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Michele Lewis]

I have requested photos from Find-A-Grave many times and everyone I have asked 
has enthusiastically granted permission.  I too give credit to the photographer 
in my citations after I read something that Thomas MacEntree wrote about it.  
This is what my citation looks like:


"Find A Grave.com," digital images (http://www.findagrave.com), F. C. and 
Martha Wood double marker, photograph by Sara Newman; Red Hill Baptist Church 
Cemetery, Edgefield County, South Carolina.


Michele



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

I never take photographs from findagrave without asking and getting the 
submitter permission, so it's got to be very important to go through that 
process, but I do sometimes and show "provided by" and give the name. When I 
add findagrave records, I say "Record submitted by" and the name.  I record 
what they've submitted and then add the URL.  Of course, I'd love to have that 
photo for my files, but I just record that a photo has been added and by whom.

  I've searched findagrave and found where they alow snipits of partial 
information to be submitted onto memorials, but didn't find anything about 
taking snipits from a memorial.

Thanks to Tim for the "Copyright Fundamentals for Genealogy" URL.  Here's an 
example: "copies the pages and posts small, significant portions from them 
online".  This comes under the "fair use" copyright law.
Thanks,
Syble

Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

Syble,

It rather depends on the terms & conditions of FindaGrave. I don't know
them, so I would suggest that you read them. Copyright of an image usually
belongs to the photographer (for a long, long time), but this may have been
passed to FindaGrave, who could then apply their own conditions for
reproduction.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Syble Glasscock
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this
against copyright rules?
Thanks,
Syble


Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman,
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards,
Waters, Wheat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Syble Glasscock]

I never take photographs from findagrave without asking and getting the 
submitter permission, so it's got to be very important to go through that 
process, but I do sometimes and show "provided by" and give the name. When I 
add findagrave records, I say "Record submitted by" and the name.  I record 
what they've submitted and then add the URL.  Of course, I'd love to have that 
photo for my files, but I just record that a photo has been added and by whom.
 
  I've searched findagrave and found where they alow snipits of partial 
information to be submitted onto memorials, but didn't find anything about 
taking snipits from a memorial.
 
Thanks to Tim for the "Copyright Fundamentals for Genealogy" URL.  Here's an 
example: "copies the pages and posts small, significant portions from them 
online".  This comes under the "fair use" copyright law. 
Thanks,
Syble

Families Researching: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
Wheat


>
> From: Ron Ferguson 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>Syble,
>
>It rather depends on the terms & conditions of FindaGrave. I don't know
>them, so I would suggest that you read them. Copyright of an image usually
>belongs to the photographer (for a long, long time), but this may have been
>passed to FindaGrave, who could then apply their own conditions for
>reproduction.
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>From: Syble Glasscock
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:38 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright
>
>I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the
>source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this
>against copyright rules?
>Thanks,
>Syble
>
>
>Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman,
>Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards,
>Waters, Wheat
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Jack Earnshaw]

On their web site there is an FAQ section which includes

How do I cite Find A Grave in a bibliography?
Please feel free to cite Find A Grave in your bibliographies, lists of 
references, etc. in whatever format you deem appropriate. Please note that, 
while Jim Tipton is the creator of Find A Grave, he is not the author of all of 
the content. If the information you are referencing includes a "bio by XXX" 
line, please cite that author as well.
Sample citation: Bio Author. "Web Page Title". Find A Grave. Date of (your) 
access.
Sample citation: Bio Author. "John Doe". Find A Grave 
 . 6-1-2008. [Top 
 ]



So, it would appear that they are happy for you to cite the data you find



Jack



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 23 July 2012 20:38
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright



I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the 
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this against 
copyright rules?

Thanks,

Syble



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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Charani]

Syble Glasscock wrote:
> I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL
> as the source, I've then created online webpages including the
> Snipit, is this against copyright rules?

In a word, yes.

Whenever a work is created it is the copyright of the person who
created it.  A work can be a photograph, painting, poem, novel or this
email.

If you need to ask the question, you already know the answer or
suspect what it is, therefore, it is always best to ask the copyright
holder if you can use the information.  Nine tenths of the time you
will be allowed to do so, so long as you acknowledge the source.  The
tenth time will either be a categoric "no" (in which case respect it)
or you'll be asked for a fee.

--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Ron Ferguson]

Syble,

It rather depends on the terms & conditions of FindaGrave. I don't know
them, so I would suggest that you read them. Copyright of an image usually
belongs to the photographer (for a long, long time), but this may have been
passed to FindaGrave, who could then apply their own conditions for
reproduction.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Syble Glasscock
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this
against copyright rules?
Thanks,
Syble


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources For Pictures #1, #2 Or #3

[Ron Ferguson]

Howland,

I'm pretty sure that they are all the same thread - unless, of course, I'm
missing something~~!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Howlanddavisii
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources For Pictures #1, #2 Or #3


There are now three threads going, all of which use the subject line of
Sources For Pictures.  Please change the subject a little even if it might
fit your question.
Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: MVMcgrs 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures


I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG] of the
listings and they appear to be all over the place.

I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have
several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my
husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.
When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big a
deal.

I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to machine.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
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service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
grayp...@telus.net writes:

Marie,

OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then Master
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very
last part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look
like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there somewhere?
If so, it looks like they are in your user area.

When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy backup
and restore, or something else?

Paul


Hi Paul,

Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk top
in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on
all machines.

As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they would
go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data transfers.

Marie

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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 7/23/2012 1:38 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
> I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as
> the source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is
> this against copyright rules?

http://www.pddoc.com/copyright/genealogy_copyright_fundamentals.htm
http://www.apgen.org/resources/copyright.html

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources For Pictures #1, #2 Or #3

[Howlanddavisii]

There are now three threads going, all of which use the subject line of Sources 
For Pictures.  Please change the subject a little even if it might fit your 
question.

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: MVMcgrs 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures



I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG] of the listings 
and they appear to be all over the place.

I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have 
several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my 
husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.  When I 
started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big a deal.

I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to machine.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
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marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by 
Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
grayp...@telus.net writes:

Marie,

OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then Master 
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very last 
part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look like, is 
your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there somewhere? If so, it 
looks like they are in your user area.

When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy backup and 
restore, or something else?

Paul



Hi Paul,



Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk top in 
VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on all 
machines.



As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they would go 
into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data transfers.



Marie

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---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service 
marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by 
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[LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Syble Glasscock]

I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the 
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this against 
copyright rules? 
Thanks,
Syble

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 7/23/2012 11:50 AM, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk
> top in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use
> XP on all machines.
> As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they
> would go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data
> transfers.

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Tips.asp

--
Tim Rosenlof



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[JLB]

No attachments please. It's against the LUG guidelines.

I guess you could try moving them into one location. Or leave them where
they are. "Assuming" they're going to go into a specific folder such as
Legacy is not working obviously. If you keep them all in a folder in
Dropbox, for instance, you could link to them from there and that might
work on all your computers. I don't understand your setup overall; i.e.
how you're syncing between three computers.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/23/2012 12:06 PM, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG] of the
> listings and they appear to be all over the place.
> I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I
> have several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as
> is my husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in
> law. When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem
> that big a deal.
> I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to machine.
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./
> ---
> CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used
> under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency
> evaluations.
> In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> grayp...@telus.net writes:
>
> Marie,
>
> OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then
> Master Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything
> except the very last part the file name itself) should be listed.
> What do the paths look like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and
> Settings’ in there somewhere? If so, it looks like they are in your
> user area.
>
> When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy
> backup and restore, or something else?
>
> Paul
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A
> desk top in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in
> NJ. I use XP on all machines.
>
> As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they
> would go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data
> transfers.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
> //Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./
> ---
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> are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® ,
> used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic
> competency evaluations.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Ron Ferguson]

Marie,

There is one further question, I'm afraid, but the answer may well save you
a great deal of time! Are the file names all different, or may some be the
same?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures


I think I have a very large mess. I made a screen capture [JPG] of the
listings and they appear to be all over the place.

I use the Legacy Archive a file when I'm done updating the project. I have
several projects going at one time. My Mom and Dad are separate as is my
husbands, a one name study and then my daughter in law and sons in law.
When I started 35 years ago with pencil and paper it didn't seem that big a
deal.

I use "restore" in Legacy when I move the project from machine to machine.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 2:43:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
grayp...@telus.net writes:


Marie,



OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then Master
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very
last part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look
like, is your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there somewhere?
If so, it looks like they are in your user area.



When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy backup
and restore, or something else?



Paul







Hi Paul,







Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk top
in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on
all machines.







As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they would
go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data transfers.







Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.











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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Paul Gray]

Marie,



OK. First, let’s go looking for them. In Legacy, click on View, then Master 
Lists, then Picture Location. The file paths (everything except the very last 
part the file name itself) should be listed. What do the paths look like, is 
your XP user name, or ‘documents and Settings’ in there somewhere? If so, it 
looks like they are in your user area.



When you say using the restore function, are you talking the Legacy backup and 
restore, or something else?



Paul





Hi Paul,



Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going between 3 computer. A desk top in 
VA, a laptop that I take for research and a desk top in NJ. I use XP on all 
machines.



As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned them and assumed they would go 
into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way the data transfers.



Marie

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Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
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marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by 
Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[MVMcgrs]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the response. Actually I'm going  between 3 computer. A desk top
in VA, a laptop that I take for research and a  desk top in NJ. I use XP on
all machines.

As to path I don't have a clue. I just scanned  them and assumed they would
go into the Legacy folder and transfer the same way  the data transfers.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
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service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 1:00:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
grayp...@telus.net writes:

Hi,

The most likely reason, I think, is that the full file  path to the
pictures is different on the two computers.

If you have the  pictures in the 'user profile area' like 'My Pictures' or
'Pictures', the full  file path is often different from computer to
computer, depending upon user  name and version of Windows.

If you have the pictures outside of your  user profile (e.g. in
C:\Legacy\Pictures) you will not have that problem as  the path would be the 
same on
both computers.

What you do about it  depends upon whether this is a onetime transfer, or
whether you want to run  Legacy on two computers (e.g. a desktop and a
laptop).

If you could say  where your pictures are stored, and what you want to do
in the future, we  could give more specific next steps.

Paul  Gray








From: mvmc...@aol.com  [mailto:mvmc...@aol.com]
Sent: July-23-12 10:08 AM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for  pictures



Need help with photo's in Legacy. I've entered several  pictures in Legacy
[latest version] and when I transfer from one computer to  another, using
restore feature, I have to locate the photo's each time.

The caption for the picture is there but the picture appears as a  question
mark. What should I have done?

Marie

Marie Varrelman  Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a  message dated 7/23/2012 10:29:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pph...@gmail.com  writes:
Can someone explain to me why Legacy does not offer a way to  designate
sources for pictures?
And also tell me how you  indicate the picture source?

I don't want the source to appear within  a report itself, but I surely
would like to have a list of picture sources at  the end.

I can put the source in the picture description  in double brackets but
that doesn't give me a list.  Also Legacy reserves  the space & won't print
anything else there.  In other words nothing  will print under the picture
(except the caption of course) where the  double-bracketed info WOULD appear if
it were not double-bracketed (I hope  that makes sense.)

Pat


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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Paul Gray]

Hi,

The most likely reason, I think, is that the full file path to the pictures is 
different on the two computers.

If you have the pictures in the 'user profile area' like 'My Pictures' or 
'Pictures', the full file path is often different from computer to computer, 
depending upon user name and version of Windows.

If you have the pictures outside of your user profile (e.g. in 
C:\Legacy\Pictures) you will not have that problem as the path would be the 
same on both computers.

What you do about it depends upon whether this is a onetime transfer, or 
whether you want to run Legacy on two computers (e.g. a desktop and a laptop).

If you could say where your pictures are stored, and what you want to do in the 
future, we could give more specific next steps.

Paul Gray








From: mvmc...@aol.com [mailto:mvmc...@aol.com]
Sent: July-23-12 10:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures



Need help with photo's in Legacy. I've entered several pictures in Legacy 
[latest version] and when I transfer from one computer to another, using 
restore feature, I have to locate the photo's each time.

The caption for the picture is there but the picture appears as a question 
mark. What should I have done?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service 
marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by 
Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 7/23/2012 10:29:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
pph...@gmail.com writes:
Can someone explain to me why Legacy does not offer a way to designate sources 
for pictures?
And also tell me how you indicate the picture source?

I don't want the source to appear within a report itself, but I surely would 
like to have a list of picture sources at the end.

I can put the source in the picture description in double brackets but that 
doesn't give me a list.  Also Legacy reserves the space & won't print anything 
else there.  In other words nothing will print under the picture (except the 
caption of course) where the double-bracketed info WOULD appear if it were not 
double-bracketed (I hope that makes sense.)

Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding resource document

[MVMcgrs]

I'm coming  in a little late to this discussion. The number of rolls is not
as important as  the state, county, city/town, ED number in the later
census records, page number  and line number.

On the 1930 and 1940 census Ancestry leave off  the first numbers of the
ED. Enumeration District: 81 is actually Enumeration District: 11 - 81. 1930,
NJ.

Family Search, Archives.com,  and Fold3 give  the full ED number. You want
to leave enough information for that person to be located  again.

You can add "Digital image downloaded from _www.ancestry.com_
(http://www.ancestry.com)  on [date]"  That gives  the credit to Ancestry but 
also gives
the exact information

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
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service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 12:16:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spa...@xmission.com writes:

On  7/22/2012 12:21 PM, Barbara wrote:
> Thanks guys and gals.  You are  correct, now that you make me think.  I
will
> save the actual  census under media.  I remember that is what Jeff does. I
> will  not direct to the website as it is a paid subscription and not
everyone
> has it and it may go away with time.

Don't give in  that easy :) Just remember the National Archives in your
Source and  Citation.

Ancestry deserves the credit if that is where you saw the  image. Just
remember, make sure there is enough information to be able for  someone
else to direct them to the actual document(s) (National Archives)  to
find the census.

==

Utah, Iron County. 1880 U.S. census,  population schedule. Digital
images. Ancestry.com.  http://www.ancestry.com: 2007. From the National
Archives microfilm  publication. T1, roll 123.

Then... Cite

1800 U.S. census, Iron  County, Utah, population schedule, Enumeration
District 888, p.65,  dwelling 345, family

You can see one can find the Source of  the information and detailed
(citation) and still give Ancestry the  credit. If they go out of
business, one can still find the  census.

I think the Source Writer will guide you.

--
Tim  Rosenlof

>
> Surely appreciate your clear heads on this  one.
> Barb
>
> - Original Message -
> From:  "Tim Rosenlof" 
> To:  
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012  1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding resource  document
>
>
> The Source for US Census will _always_ be  from the _National Archives_
> no matter what service or company you use  to view them.
> Example:
>
> Tenth Census of the United  States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9,
> 1,454 rolls). Records of  the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29.
> National Archives,  Washington, D.C.
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[MVMcgrs]

Need help with photo's in Legacy. I've entered several pictures in  Legacy
[latest version] and when I transfer from one computer to another,  using
restore feature, I have to locate the photo's each  time.

The caption for the picture is there but the picture appears as a  question
mark. What should I have done?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 7/23/2012 10:29:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pph...@gmail.com writes:

Can  someone explain to me why Legacy does not offer a way to designate
sources for  pictures?
And also tell me how you indicate the picture source?


I don't want the source to appear within a report itself, but I surely
would like to have a list of picture sources at the end.


I can put the source in the picture description in double brackets but
that doesn't give me a list.  Also Legacy reserves the space & won't  print
anything else there.  In other words nothing will print under the  picture
(except the caption of course) where the double-bracketed info WOULD  appear if
it were not double-bracketed (I hope that makes sense.)



Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.

[Ron Ferguson]

Hi Charles,

Thank you for testing. I was aware that PDF text files could be stored in
the file area and would open fine with Acrobat Reader et al. What I had
never tried was using a PDF image. I could see no reason why it wouldn't
work, and included the minor qualification for that reason. Ian has also
confirmed that PDF images work fine.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.

Ron,

To test this, I inserted a PDF file into the source detail using the
"multimedia tab." When clicking on the image, the PDF file opened in Adobe
Acrobat. I suspect that it will work for other PDF viewers as well.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.

Ian,

Have you tried putting a PDF image in the file area? I haven’t, so I
don’t know if it will work, I expect that it will when opened in your PDF
Viewer in the same way as you view text. If you are asking does Legacy have
its own PDF Reader then, as I am sure you know, the answer is , no it does
not.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding resource document

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 7/22/2012 12:21 PM, Barbara wrote:
> Thanks guys and gals.  You are correct, now that you make me think.  I will
> save the actual census under media.  I remember that is what Jeff does. I
> will not direct to the website as it is a paid subscription and not everyone
> has it and it may go away with time.

Don't give in that easy :) Just remember the National Archives in your
Source and Citation.

Ancestry deserves the credit if that is where you saw the image. Just
remember, make sure there is enough information to be able for someone
else to direct them to the actual document(s) (National Archives) to
find the census.

==

Utah, Iron County. 1880 U.S. census, population schedule. Digital
images. Ancestry.com. http://www.ancestry.com: 2007. From the National
Archives microfilm publication. T1, roll 123.

Then... Cite

1800 U.S. census, Iron County, Utah, population schedule, Enumeration
District 888, p.65, dwelling 345, family

You can see one can find the Source of the information and detailed
(citation) and still give Ancestry the credit. If they go out of
business, one can still find the census.

I think the Source Writer will guide you.

--
Tim Rosenlof

>
> Surely appreciate your clear heads on this one.
> Barb
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Rosenlof" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding resource document
>
>
> The Source for US Census will _always_ be from the _National Archives_
> no matter what service or company you use to view them.
> Example:
>
> Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9,
> 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29.
> National Archives, Washington, D.C.
>
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources and fillable forms

[Charles Apple]

For those that may be interested, I ran another test using the source detail in 
Legacy; however, this time I used a PDF form that I had made so that 
information could be entered into the relevant fields of the PDF form. In this 
case it was an "Individual Worksheet" designed for collecting information on 
any given individual. It also opens from Legacy with Adobe Acrobat and allows 
one to complete the relevant fields. This may be beneficial to some Legacy 
users who use research forms.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.

[Charles Apple]

Ron,

To test this, I inserted a PDF file into the source detail using the 
"multimedia tab." When clicking on the image, the PDF file opened in Adobe 
Acrobat. I suspect that it will work for other PDF viewers as well.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.

Ian,

Have you tried putting a PDF image in the file area? I haven’t, so I don’t 
know if it will work, I expect that it will when opened in your PDF Viewer in 
the same way as you view text. If you are asking does Legacy have its own PDF 
Reader then, as I am sure you know, the answer is , no it does not.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Sherry/Support]

It's probably something the programmers never thought of. There have
been some requests for this and using the Description field is what
I've been doing.

If you want to submit a suggestion (the more the merrier ) please
send in the Suggestion from from the Legacy Home tab Supprot section
'Suggest a new Feature" or from the Legacy website under Help Center
"Make a Suggestion" (same form so you only need to submit one)


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
> Can someone explain to me why Legacy does not offer a way to designate
> sources for pictures?
> And also tell me how you indicate the picture source?
>
> I don't want the source to appear within a report itself, but I surely would
> like to have a list of picture sources at the end.
>
> I can put the source in the picture description in double brackets but that
> doesn't give me a list.  Also Legacy reserves the space & won't print
> anything else there.  In other words nothing will print under the picture
> (except the caption of course) where the double-bracketed info WOULD appear
> if it were not double-bracketed (I hope that makes sense.)
>
> Pat



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[LegacyUG] Sources for pictures

[Pat Hickin]

Can someone explain to me why Legacy does not offer a way to designate
sources for pictures?
And also tell me how you indicate the picture source?

I don't want the source to appear within a report itself, but I surely
would like to have a list of picture sources at the end.

I can put the source in the picture description in double brackets but that
doesn't give me a list.  Also Legacy reserves the space & won't print
anything else there.  In other words nothing will print under the picture
(except the caption of course) where the double-bracketed info WOULD appear
if it were not double-bracketed (I hope that makes sense.)

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to specify the size of a chart, first.

[Ron Ferguson]

Joshua,

You do not say which "charting software" you are referring to. If Legacy
Charting, which is included free with Legacy then you can adjust the
appearance using the Appearance Tab - I have just looked at a small 3
generation descendant chart which I was able to enlarge to abt. 49"x24",
without effort.

I suspect that I could manually adjust this further should I play around.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Joshua Levy
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to specify the size of a chart, first.

I just updated to Legacy 7.5 and treated myself to the charting software as
well.
So I have a couple of questions about making charts.

What I want to do, is choose a size for a chart (like 4 feet wide and 3 feet
tall, or 14 inches wide by 11 inches high) and then experiment with
different numbers of generations and different data on each person and
different people, until I end up with a good looking chart.  However, I'm
having a lot of trouble with that, because it looks like Legacy Charts
thinks in the opposite way:  It wants to know how many generations, what
data, etc, and then tells you how big the chart will be).  If I want a 4
foot by 3 foot chart but only six generations, that means I want lots of
space per generation, but the charting software doesn't do that.

So is there a way to set the page size first, and then see how much chart
you can "stuff in" to that sized page?

Also, these specific questions:

Lets say I create a fan chart, and it is about 25 inches in diameter.
However, I'm going to have it printed on a 4 foot by 3 foot sheet of paper,
by generating a PDF and then taking it to a print shop.  Is there any way to
get the pie chart in the middle of the PDF?  Right now, it is always in the
upper left corner.

Can I print out events on a chart?  So people who have an immigration event
will say "Immigrated 1921" (or whatever).  It might be best of all to have a
special event/fact just for that purpose.   Something like "Chart Caption"
and just have my chart print out the description field of that.


It would also be nice to color code one person's background or text based on
events.  So relatives with military service would be in bold, or in red, or
maybe have red background, or something like that.  Immigrants might be in
blue, that sort of thing.


Any way to do any of this?

Thanks for any help.

Joshua Levy




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