Re: [LegacyUG] Thank You all re: AKA Alt. Names a question
To be more specific... this is how I copy a citation... Add the Alt. Name event, as Michele suggests. (You might consider adding an Alt. Spelling event if that's closer to what these are.) Click on the person's source (little books) icon. Highlight the citation line for the AKA and click on the two-pages copy source to clipboard icon in the lower left to copy it to the clipboard. (NOTE: If you want what's already on the clipboard, go in and Save it, because this bit will overwrite that.) Then highlight the citation line for the Alt. Name event and click on the blue minus sign add clipboard source to the current event icon. Close that window. Then delete the AKA/alternate name. Hope this helps wasn't over-kill. --Paula in Texas From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sat, September 29, 2012 8:26:24 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Thank You all re: AKA Alt. Names a question You will need to do this one at a time. Before you delete the AKA, make the alt. name event and then copy the citation, paste it to the event, then go back and delete the AKA. Michele From:Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Thank You all re: AKA Alt. Names a question A hearty thank you to everyone who gave such wonderful ideas to the question os AKA and Alt. names. Most helpful!. Now another related question. I've decided to get rid of the AKA and have only Alt. names, because they are not AKA, but other spellings of the name. How can I do that without losing the source that is attached to it? I surely appreciate all of your ideas. Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation
Jenny, I had been getting my census images from Heritage Quest via my library... same thing. But I've never even considered including information about the library in the citation...! ;) --Paula in Texas From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, September 27, 2012 9:25:52 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation I use SourceWriter but am not sure how to handle this one. Through my membership of a particular library I am able to access the archives of 3 different newspapers. I have to log into the library's website and then log into ProQuest from there, using my library member's number. The Newspapersonline images (issued by unrelated content provider) template seems appropriate and fairly straightforward, but at the Master level it asks only for State City (presumably where the newspaper was originally published), the title of the paper and the format. At Detail level, in addition to details of the particular article, it has fields for website title, URL and Collection. That's where it gets tricky! Do I name the Library's homepage in Website title or more specifically the URL for the online content page or even more specifically the URL for the ProQuest-accessed-via-a-library log-on page? (The latter is long and complex.) Or do I ignore the Library part altogether and just cite ProQuest as the Source and use their direct access log-on URL? Another alternative would be give ProQuest as the website title and omit the URL altogether! I'm not absolutely hung up on using exactly the right template and filling all the available fields with exactly what they ask for, but I do like to try and get my citations to be accurate, consistent and reasonably professional-looking. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Indenting birth, marriage, death notes
I thought there was, but I was wrong. All notes are indented the same. --Paula From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, September 28, 2012 9:25:05 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Indenting birth, marriage, death notes On reports, I ordinarily like to have general notes with little indentation as I use them in part for introductory material. On the other hand, I would like to have birth, marriage, and death notes deeply indented. Is there any way to accomplish this?? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] centimeters ?
Help - what's up with the margins being set in centimeters now? And how do I get back to inches? Thanks in advance. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation
Not sure I agree with not even giving the next researcher a hint which newspaper repository to check. It's not like they all have the same stuff. It's even more varied that the censuses. Maybe it's different depending on how old the newspaper is, which could impact how readily available it is in more than one online collection...? --Paula in Texas From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, September 27, 2012 10:30:46 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation I am a bit unorthodox here. If I can copy the newspaper page to my hard drive I treat it as though I have seen the paper myself (and I have!). My citations look like this: Funeral Services for John A. Horne to be Held Today, The Augusta Chronicle, 26 Oct 1941, p. 9A, col. 5. [the name of the paper is in italics] This is the format that you would use for a clipping. The reason I do it this way is that it doesn't matter WHERE I got this from, GenealogyBank, Newspaper Archives, Library of Congress etc. If someone needs a copy they know the EXACT newspaper page. It wouldn't take very long to find a repository that had it. I try to make my citations as brief as possible (while still including all of the elements) so that they are easier to read. Michele snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] centimeters ?
On 2012/10/02 08:12, Paula Ryburn wrote: Help - what's up with the margins being set in centimeters now? And how do I get back to inches? It's a Global option. Look in the Customise tabs. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation
Paula, I only add in the library details as a repository for microfilm, not when I access a a site using their PCs. Jenny, wrt your question, I see your point but think that I would omit the library references. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Jenny, I had been getting my census images from Heritage Quest via my library... same thing. But I've never even considered including information about the library in the citation...! ;) --Paula in Texas From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, September 27, 2012 9:25:52 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Tricky citation I use SourceWriter but am not sure how to handle this one. Through my membership of a particular library I am able to access the archives of 3 different newspapers. I have to log into the library's website and then log into ProQuest from there, using my library member's number. The Newspapersonline images (issued by unrelated content provider) template seems appropriate and fairly straightforward, but at the Master level it asks only for State City (presumably where the newspaper was originally published), the title of the paper and the format. At Detail level, in addition to details of the particular article, it has fields for website title, URL and Collection. That's where it gets tricky! Do I name the Library's homepage in Website title or more specifically the URL for the online content page or even more specifically the URL for the ProQuest-accessed-via-a-library log-on page? (The latter is long and complex.) Or do I ignore the Library part altogether and just cite ProQuest as the Source and use their direct access log-on URL? Another alternative would be give ProQuest as the website title and omit the URL altogether! I'm not absolutely hung up on using exactly the right template and filling all the available fields with exactly what they ask for, but I do like to try and get my citations to be accurate, consistent and reasonably professional-looking. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
Richard, Unfortunately I do not have time at the moment to check your suggestion out (still catching up after having been away), so I have not looked at the tables, but I wonder whether just changing the number will in fact produce the desired result. OK, the table will be changed, but, off the top of my head, wouldn't the details from the old entry still be there - and how would they fit into the new template? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Richard Van Wasshnova Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter To change US census source template from online to microfilm change tblSR.TemplateID: 1820 49 to 48 1830 51 to 50 1840 53 to 52 1850 55 to 54 1860 57 to 56 1870 59 to 58 1880 62 to 61 1900 66 to 65 1910 68 to 67 1920 70 to 69 1930 72 to 71 1940 1464 to 1465 -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote: Michele, If you have MS Access or ltools you can easily change from online to microfilm master source. I think I like the idea of changing them to microfilm source also. I have one master source per year, per county. Most of my images came from Heritage Quest which I no longer can use. Now if I get an image from Family Search or Ancestry I'm reluctant to create a new Master Source so I often, incorrectly add it to the H.Q. source and then fret about doing it wrong. If you have MS Access go to tblSR, click on SrcName to find a 1930 census, slide right to TemplateID and change the 72 to 71 and see if it doesn't look like you want. Of course back up before you start. If you need to use ltools let us know. It would require a simple query. Good luck. Anyone see a reason not to change source type? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Legacy programmer type people… Are there any plans in the works to allow us to change from one sourcewriter template to another even after we have several citations already done? For example, I want to change all of my census sources from the online images template to the microfilm template. If I do this, it will make all of my sources more in line with ESM first book and not the 2nd. I prefer her first book because the sources are more simplified and easier to read. Here is the difference: NEW 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; digital images, Ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Jun 2011); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. OLD 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. I CAN do this with sourcewriter but I have to use a different template. I want to cut out all of the Ancestry.com info. With the info provided, anyone can look up this census page on FamilySearch, Ancestry.com, Heritage Quest etc. It doesn't matter. The point is to give the reader the info they need to find the source and this old citation is sufficient for that and it cuts out the fluff. I tried just deleting the Ancestry.com portion of the citation but that doesn't work because sourcewriter will not allow me to delete the default entry digital images. (you CAN delete it but as soon as you save it, it pops right back in). This forces me to use a different template. I hope all of this makes sense. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
I DO have Access but I have absolutely no idea how to use it L I would love to have 1 source for each census year. As it is now I have one for every county. Michele From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Michele, If you have MS Access or ltools you can easily change from online to microfilm master source. I think I like the idea of changing them to microfilm source also. I have one master source per year, per county. Most of my images came from Heritage Quest which I no longer can use. Now if I get an image from Family Search or Ancestry I'm reluctant to create a new Master Source so I often, incorrectly add it to the H.Q. source and then fret about doing it wrong. If you have MS Access go to tblSR, click on SrcName to find a 1930 census, slide right to TemplateID and change the 72 to 71 and see if it doesn't look like you want. Of course back up before you start. If you need to use ltools let us know. It would require a simple query. Good luck. Anyone see a reason not to change source type? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Legacy programmer type people… Are there any plans in the works to allow us to change from one sourcewriter template to another even after we have several citations already done? For example, I want to change all of my census sources from the online images template to the microfilm template. If I do this, it will make all of my sources more in line with ESM first book and not the 2nd. I prefer her first book because the sources are more simplified and easier to read. Here is the difference: NEW 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; digital images, Ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Jun 2011); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. OLD 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. I CAN do this with sourcewriter but I have to use a different template. I want to cut out all of the Ancestry.com info. With the info provided, anyone can look up this census page on FamilySearch, Ancestry.com, Heritage Quest etc. It doesn't matter. The point is to give the reader the info they need to find the source and this old citation is sufficient for that and it cuts out the fluff. I tried just deleting the Ancestry.com portion of the citation but that doesn't work because sourcewriter will not allow me to delete the default entry digital images. (you CAN delete it but as soon as you save it, it pops right back in). This forces me to use a different template. I hope all of this makes sense. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
Ah but if I only knew how to use Access... Michele -Original Message- From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter To change US census source template from online to microfilm change tblSR.TemplateID: 1820 49 to 48 1830 51 to 50 1840 53 to 52 1850 55 to 54 1860 57 to 56 1870 59 to 58 1880 62 to 61 1900 66 to 65 1910 68 to 67 1920 70 to 69 1930 72 to 71 1940 1464 to 1465 -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote: Michele, If you have MS Access or ltools you can easily change from online to microfilm master source. I think I like the idea of changing them to microfilm source also. I have one master source per year, per county. Most of my images came from Heritage Quest which I no longer can use. Now if I get an image from Family Search or Ancestry I'm reluctant to create a new Master Source so I often, incorrectly add it to the H.Q. source and then fret about doing it wrong. If you have MS Access go to tblSR, click on SrcName to find a 1930 census, slide right to TemplateID and change the 72 to 71 and see if it doesn't look like you want. Of course back up before you start. If you need to use ltools let us know. It would require a simple query. Good luck. Anyone see a reason not to change source type? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Legacy programmer type people… Are there any plans in the works to allow us to change from one sourcewriter template to another even after we have several citations already done? For example, I want to change all of my census sources from the online images template to the microfilm template. If I do this, it will make all of my sources more in line with ESM first book and not the 2nd. I prefer her first book because the sources are more simplified and easier to read. Here is the difference: NEW 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; digital images, Ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Jun 2011); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. OLD 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. I CAN do this with sourcewriter but I have to use a different template. I want to cut out all of the Ancestry.com info. With the info provided, anyone can look up this census page on FamilySearch, Ancestry.com, Heritage Quest etc. It doesn't matter. The point is to give the reader the info they need to find the source and this old citation is sufficient for that and it cuts out the fluff. I tried just deleting the Ancestry.com portion of the citation but that doesn't work because sourcewriter will not allow me to delete the default entry digital images. (you CAN delete it but as soon as you save it, it pops right back in). This forces me to use a different template. I hope all of this makes sense. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
Michele, I do have one source for each census year, but I am in England, and I think it is easier for us than many other countries. This actually has nothing to do with using access, but how the sourcing is set up by the users. Basically we are back to the lumper v. splitter debate!! See the archives for a few thousand references :-). Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Michele Lewis Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter I DO have Access but I have absolutely no idea how to use it L I would love to have 1 source for each census year. As it is now I have one for every county. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
Paula said, “Michele, This post jumps out at me because I thought you were working on certification (?) and needed to have the citations match the 'latest greatest'...?” The BCG states that you have to use a citation format but they don't say it has to be ESM's Evidence Explained. You can use Chicago Manual of Style etc. I absolutely love ESM. She has been very helpful to me through her books and personally. She will be the first one to tell you that citations are more of an art than a science and she has no problem with someone making adjustments. I like her first book Citation and Analysis better with some of the citations. They are more concise and easier to read but still contain all of the essential information. I write reports for the laymen when I do research for other people. I need the citations to be understandable to them. Michele :) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] centimeters ?
Go to Options Customize Data Defaults Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 02/10/2012 02:12, Paula Ryburn wrote: Help - what's up with the margins being set in centimeters now? And how do I get back to inches? Thanks in advance. --Paula in Texas -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Indenting birth, marriage, death notes
Thanks, Paula, I've made a suggestion to allow it. Pat On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I thought there was, but I was wrong. All notes are indented the same. --Paula -- *From:* Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Fri, September 28, 2012 9:25:05 PM *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Indenting birth, marriage, death notes On reports, I ordinarily like to have general notes with little indentation as I use them in part for introductory material. On the other hand, I would like to have birth, marriage, and death notes deeply indented. Is there any way to accomplish this?? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
On 02/10/2012 12:49, Ron Ferguson wrote: I do have one source for each census year, but I am in England, and I think it is easier for us than many other countries. This actually has nothing to do with using access, but how the sourcing is set up by the users. Basically we are back to the lumper v. splitter debate!! See the archives for a few thousand references:-). I too, have one Source for each Census year for each country in the UK, but because of the way the SW templates are set up, I have one for each county each year for the US. I suppose it would be quite feasible to put the State and County along with the City in the Jurisdiction City field in Source Detail if you wanted to take lumping to the extreme. Or you could adopt a compromise position and have a Master Source for each State each year and just move County to the Detail. Re the matter of using Access, I don't think it would be worth buying it just to tinker with Legacy occasionally, unless you are *really* unhappy with out-of-the-box Legacy. However, if you already have it and do have the occasional wish to go beyond what Legacy offers it probably is worth learning the basics of Access. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
On 2012/10/02 16:59, Jenny M Benson wrote: Re the matter of using Access, I don't think it would be worth buying it just to tinker with Legacy occasionally, unless you are*really* unhappy with out-of-the-box Legacy. However, if you already have it and do have the occasional wish to go beyond what Legacy offers it probably is worth learning the basics of Access. OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are free. Their Database components will do the same as Access. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
A word of caution. Federal censuses are generally available and always in the same format. That is not necessarily true with state censuses. For example, if I use the version of the Wisconsin census at the State Historical Society, it is the original. If I use the version at the Family History Library, it is the copy sent to the feds. The information is the same, but the page, line etc may be different. BTW I agree that for federal censuses, identifying the library or website is not necessary, but it doesn't hurt anything. Most of my census sources were done 10 to 20 years ago. (Since I am a splitter, there are thousands.) I couldn't go back now and identify the library if I wanted to. But if the indexing on Ancestry is blocking my locating the record again, I can browse and go right to it with the information in my source. Shirley ~~ Shirley York Anderson yor...@prodigy.net ~~ My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/ http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] legacy and Access
It would be interesting to know whether Legacy will move away from it's Jet Engine (Access) database on the next release. Alan Pereira -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 October 2012 16:02 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter On 2012/10/02 16:59, Jenny M Benson wrote: Re the matter of using Access, I don't think it would be worth buying it just to tinker with Legacy occasionally, unless you are*really* unhappy with out-of-the-box Legacy. However, if you already have it and do have the occasional wish to go beyond what Legacy offers it probably is worth learning the basics of Access. OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are free. Their Database components will do the same as Access. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] legacy and Access
On 2012/10/02 18:49, Alan Pereira wrote: It would be interesting to know whether Legacy will move away from it's Jet Engine (Access) database on the next release. Very doubtful! Too much time and effort already invested in Legacy by Millennia. Are you perhaps hoping for a pure SQL database? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
I only know for US census the Template change works and all citations are unchanged. The source basically just doesn't show the online source, eg. Heritage Quest, Ancestry or Family Search. The information is still there, just hidden from Sourcewriter. It is reversible, you can go back. Doing a gedcom or using the free Legacy would also bring back the online source I suppose. I don't consider myself a lumper or a splitter. I would call one a lumper if they combine all US counties in one source and a splitter would have a separate source for H.Q., Ancestry and Family Search. I don't want to split so now that I can't get H.Q. I just put Heritage Quest, Ancestry and Family Search into online website which is a bit clunky. -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Richard, Unfortunately I do not have time at the moment to check your suggestion out (still catching up after having been away), so I have not looked at the tables, but I wonder whether just changing the number will in fact produce the desired result. OK, the table will be changed, but, off the top of my head, wouldn't the details from the old entry still be there - and how would they fit into the new template? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Richard Van Wasshnova Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter To change US census source template from online to microfilm change tblSR.TemplateID: 1820 49 to 48 1830 51 to 50 1840 53 to 52 1850 55 to 54 1860 57 to 56 1870 59 to 58 1880 62 to 61 1900 66 to 65 1910 68 to 67 1920 70 to 69 1930 72 to 71 1940 1464 to 1465 -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote: Michele, If you have MS Access or ltools you can easily change from online to microfilm master source. I think I like the idea of changing them to microfilm source also. I have one master source per year, per county. Most of my images came from Heritage Quest which I no longer can use. Now if I get an image from Family Search or Ancestry I'm reluctant to create a new Master Source so I often, incorrectly add it to the H.Q. source and then fret about doing it wrong. If you have MS Access go to tblSR, click on SrcName to find a 1930 census, slide right to TemplateID and change the 72 to 71 and see if it doesn't look like you want. Of course back up before you start. If you need to use ltools let us know. It would require a simple query. Good luck. Anyone see a reason not to change source type? -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Legacy programmer type people… Are there any plans in the works to allow us to change from one sourcewriter template to another even after we have several citations already done? For example, I want to change all of my census sources from the online images template to the microfilm template. If I do this, it will make all of my sources more in line with ESM first book and not the 2nd. I prefer her first book because the sources are more simplified and easier to read. Here is the difference: NEW 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; digital images, Ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Jun 2011); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. OLD 1930 U.S. census, Jefferson County, Georgia, population schedule, Bartow, enumeration district (ED) 16, sheet 3A, p. 211 [stamped], dwelling 52, family 52, Elisha Dukes household; National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T626, roll 371. I CAN do this with sourcewriter but I have to use a different template. I want to cut out all of the Ancestry.com info. With the info provided, anyone can look up this census page on FamilySearch, Ancestry.com, Heritage Quest etc. It doesn't matter. The point is to give the reader the info they need to find the source and this old citation is sufficient for that and it cuts out the fluff. I tried just deleting the Ancestry.com portion of the citation but that doesn't work because sourcewriter will not allow me to delete the default entry digital images. (you CAN delete it but as soon as you save it, it pops right back in). This forces me to use a different template. I hope all of this makes sense. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
[LegacyUG] Wednesday's webinar
With all the news about privacy, identity theft and the role of access to vital records, have you ever considered that in 2012 most of us (at least here in the United States) have more privacy than our ancestors? As a result of living in the digital age ruled by the Internet and social media, is there really less privacy than in prior years? In fact, the reverse is true. Learn what type of information about your ancestors was public and how to find it! Join us for the live webinar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 at 2pm Eastern U.S. Register today to reserve your virtual seat. Registration is free but space is limited to the first 1,000 people to join that day. Before joining, please visit www.java.com to ensure you have the latest version of Java which our webinar software requires. When you join, if you receive a message that the webinar is full, you know we've reached the 1,000 limit, so we invite you to view the recording which should be published to the webinar archives within an hour or two of the event's conclusion. Register at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Help with printer margins / footers in Legacy, please
I need to know if / how to change the margin at the bottom of any report page. Alternatively, how can I tell the footers to print farther away from the bottom of the page? My new printer apparently likes to have a few points more of unprintable space at the bottom of the page, so I get only the top half of the footer... Produced by Legacy on Oct 2, 2012 on my reports. (Today, it's family group sheets.) Thanks, --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] centimeters ?
Thanks. Any thoughts on why it changed? --Paula in Texas From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, October 2, 2012 8:15:54 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] centimeters ? Go to Options Customize Data Defaults Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 02/10/2012 02:12, Paula Ryburn wrote: Help - what's up with the margins being set in centimeters now? And how do I get back to inches? Thanks in advance. --Paula in Texas -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] check all picture locations - am I doing this correctly?
I think what you're doing is how it works. Unfortunately. That's why I don't link files. To Legacy or to anything. If I'm looking for a file I'd rather find it in its original location, whatever that is and whenever. Thankfully Windows can be searched. Linking files is a thankless task and when you've had enough you'll stop. --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 10/2/2012 8:46 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote: I have changed the names on a few files for one particular family, but some of them have been linked in several times, so this is getting tedious. I went in Customize Locations Test All Multimedia Paths and am testing locations... I chose not to create a list; rather, to have each one pop up to be corrected. I am choosing to Browse for the File myself, but the error pops up for EVERY file not found... *even after I have selected the renamed file. Isn't the system supposed to know that this is the new name and correct all paths to it? Am I doing this incorrectly? Or does that only work if you renamed the folder? It's been so long since I've done this or seen a discussion on here that I have forgotten. Thanks, --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5804 - Release Date: 10/02/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
