Re: [LegacyUG] Reference sheet

2012-10-14 Thread Douglas Tighe
Yes please I like one as well.

Thanks Doug

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:17 AM, gcr...@juno.com gcr...@juno.com wrote:

 I'd like one as well!

 Thanks

 gc



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 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:28:24 -0600

 I would be interested in the reference sheet.  Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Confused
On 10/13/2012 7:59 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:
 To avoid printing complications, may I suggest you write all Umlauts with an 
 e which is standard practice worldwide.

It is standard practice ? I have never heard that before, so if you
could offer me a reference it would be appreciated. All my umlauts print
fine. I also enter all my names and locations as is spelled, with
umlauts in Legacy. I have hundreds of Swedish names and locations.

--
Confused



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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Neither have I, and I definitely advise against using abbreviations in 
locations, especially if you wish to publish, as very few will know what they 
mean, especially for states, counties, provinces.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Confused wasbornconfu...@gmail.com wrote:

On 10/13/2012 7:59 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:
 To avoid printing complications, may I suggest you write all Umlauts with an 
 e which is standard practice worldwide.

It is standard practice ? I have never heard that before, so if you
could offer me a reference it would be appreciated. All my umlauts print
fine. I also enter all my names and locations as is spelled, with
umlauts in Legacy. I have hundreds of Swedish names and locations.

--
Confused





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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread David C Abernathy
John,
I got two copies of your email.
One to me and one to Maureen.
I think you used my email address for Maureen, so you may want to send her 
another.

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi 
ler

Hi Maureen,

Thank you for your interest in my file naming standard.

In preparing to send out these documents I discovered some details I thought 
should be enhanced, so the five-page document has grown to eight pages. I hope 
that you find the information useful. The standard is a work in progress and I 
invite your comments.

All the best,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/13/2012 6:57 AM, Maureen Supon wrote:
 I'm interested - I started with date-first filenames and decided
 change to surname-first. I'd like to read your reasoning before I do
 any more work on this !
 Thanks,
 Maureen
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 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death
 of compi ler


 JLB and Robert Austen,

 Thank you both for your kind remarks.

 On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy and elsewhere,
 while I was working through the thousands of documents, articles and
 images a lady delivered to my friend a pair of cardboard boxes, each
 measuring about two feet on each side. Both boxes were filled to the
 brim with beautiful photographs, mostly from the last quarter of the
 19th century, though some were as late as the 1920s from the styles of
 clothing, and some were early cabinet photos from the 1860s. They were
 all extremely well preserved and unblemished, mounted in mats and
 folders. The product of a variety of studios in a variety of
 geographic locations. The lady who brought them had no idea who they
 were, or to whom they might be related. She knew that we were doing
 some fairly intensive work on family history and thought we might be
 able to identify some of them or find descendants who might like to
 have them. Unfortunately not a single photograph had any identifying
 markings. Those photos should have been scanned and posted on web
 sites for others to view and possibly identify. I have no idea what
 the disposition of those photos was. What a tragic loss to the
 families of those in the photos.

 I urge all of you to mark the photos you have with names, dates,
 places and circumstances where know, and also to scan each image and
 develop a file naming standard that will allow anyone viewing the file
 names to know who, what, when and where they were taken. Paper, or
 electronic filing systems that tag photos and image files with numbers
 and require separate index lists to identify those in the photos, or
 systems that place photos and image files in folders by surname, but
 only use given names on the photos themselves, often end up with the
 index lists disappearing, or the photos being separated from the
 surname folders. Each individual photo, or electronic image file
 should bear enough information to identify the people in the image,
 along with the date, place and ideally the circumstances of that photo
 or image file.

 I strongly urge that your file naming standard be based on surnames
 rather than on dates. Our goal is to document the lives of people, not
 the happenings of years. Those who come after us may not have a clue
 what year look at for a particular image, but they will recognize the
 surnames, and often the given names, of those whose image they seek in
 a list of electronic file names. There is much more that can be done
 to develop a useful file naming standard, and I have documented such a
 standard in previous submissions to this list. I developed my personal
 standard over a period of years working with thousands of photographs
 of other peoples families. Having such a file naming standard allowed
 me to organize those images so that I could find anyone easily in
 seconds. That standard us now fairly well-established, though minor
 changes continue to evolve as needs arise. One of the additional
 benefits of the file naming standard I use is that it allows me to
 keep all of my electronic images of individuals in a single folder,
 and images of groups (2 or more people in a photo), documents and
 places  things in three sub-folders. That makes it very easy to both
 back up those image files, or to move them if the need arises. If
 anyone is interested I will be happy to send 

Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Gene Young
On 10/14/2012 10:07 AM, Confused wrote:
 On 10/13/2012 7:59 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:
 To avoid printing complications, may I suggest you write all Umlauts with an 
 e which is standard practice worldwide.

 It is standard practice ? I have never heard that before, so if you
 could offer me a reference it would be appreciated. All my umlauts print
 fine. I also enter all my names and locations as is spelled, with
 umlauts in Legacy. I have hundreds of Swedish names and locations.


http://www.ehow.com/how_8099136_type-umlaut-laptop.html

One of hundreds available.  I was taught by native German speakers to
type oe, ae etc.  Of course there were no computers back then but
the standard has not changed, just become less necessary.

--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm



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Re: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
My question was, if doing it this way is the reason my tree got messed
up when it upgraded to Legacy 7.5.

This format has worked for my family and they all say it has made the
research much easier.  So again, I will ask, if this is the reason my
tree had errors when it upgraded to Legacy. I had a marriage date for
once couple, copied to two other people. One family that had 4
children, now have 8 children etc.

If anyone can answer the question, that would be great!



On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, R G Strong-genes
rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:
 MJ,
 The purpose of sourcing is so that if someone else wanted to verify the data
 that you entered they could go directly to that source and find the same
 information. With the example that you have shown I would have no clue as to
 where it came from. I would recommend getting the Book Evidence Explained
 Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace by Elizabeth Shown
 Mills. She is considered by most genealogist as the expert on citing sources
 and this book is what the Source Writer Templates are based on. The
 Templates are numbered according to the page number where they are found in
 the book.

 -Original Message-
 From: MJ SA
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza

 95 is the index number or if noted the page number I found the record.
 I think this maybe why I had problems upgrading to the new Legacy.
 But this system works for me, when I need to go back and look at a
 record. Is this a mistake on my part? Should I do it differently?


 --
 Russell G. Strong
 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
 program can be downloaded FREE at
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Re: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
It was an older version of Legacy.  Actually, I put the notes in my
Events/Facts!
So if someone were to look for Tommaso Giunta  birth year 1873 (95)
that means the birth record of 1873, is number 95. Does that make
sense? I have a feeling I am going to be redoing my sources also.

I live in NY, I am 2nd generation Sicilian and 3rd generation Italian.
 I also have the smallest Italian/Sicilian family in the world :)  So
it is easy to write in the note, got this marriage record at this
Church name in Brooklyn, or got this note from the FHC microfilm
number 154678 etc.


On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Difficult to say from the information given below without more information.

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza


 You say notes but I suspect from another part of your post that you mean 
 sources. Which sources are you using ie. Basic or SW. and which fields do 
 you put the data in? You also say upgraded to Legacy 7.5, but it is not clear 
 whether  this from an earlier version of Legacy or  from another program 
 entirely. Perhaps you could clarify.

 In any event, I doubt if this would cause a problem (if from Legacy) .

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I
My question was, if doing it this way is the reason my tree got messed
up when it upgraded to Legacy 7.5.

This format has worked for my family and they all say it has made the
research much easier.  So again, I will ask, if this is the reason my
tree had errors when it upgraded to Legacy. I had a marriage date for
once couple, copied to two other people. One family that had 4
children, now have 8 children etc.

If anyone can answer the question, that would be great!



On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, R G Strong-genes
rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:
 MJ,
 The purpose of sourcing is so that if someone else wanted to verify the data
 that you entered they could go directly to that source and find the same
 information. With the example that you have shown I would have no clue as to
 where it came from. I would recommend getting the Book Evidence Explained
 Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace by Elizabeth Shown
 Mills. She is considered by most genealogist as the expert on citing sources
 and this book is what the Source Writer Templates are based on. The
 Templates are numbered according to the page number where they are found in
 the book.

 -Original Message-
 From: MJ SA
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza

 95 is the index number or if noted the page number I found the record.
 I think this maybe why I had problems upgrading to the new Legacy.
 But this system works for me, when I need to go back and look at a
 record. Is this a mistake on my part? Should I do it differently?


 --
 Russell G. Strong
 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
 program can be downloaded FREE at
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
 Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .




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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 10/14/2012 10:24 AM, Gene Young wrote:
 On 10/14/2012 10:07 AM, Confused wrote:
 On 10/13/2012 7:59 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:
 To avoid printing complications, may I suggest you write all Umlauts with 
 an e which is standard practice worldwide.

 It is standard practice ? I have never heard that before, so if you
 could offer me a reference it would be appreciated. All my umlauts print
 fine. I also enter all my names and locations as is spelled, with
 umlauts in Legacy. I have hundreds of Swedish names and locations.


 http://www.ehow.com/how_8099136_type-umlaut-laptop.html

 One of hundreds available.  I was taught by native German speakers to
 type oe, ae etc.  Of course there were no computers back then but
 the standard has not changed, just become less necessary.


I was snooping around Wikipedia and it was very interesting addressing
the German language and the use of Umlauts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_%28diacritic%29

--
Tim Rosenlof



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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Ellen
Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
in the name of the photo.

Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected Family 
Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When the last 
Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative help her to 
bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and historical societies.  
She didn't like genealogy software but wanted everything in Microsoft Word 
using the family's old numbering system.  We have corrected so many mistakes 
that now that numbering system is obsolete and irrelevant since it was based 
upon birth order, some of which were very wrong.

However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the Family 
Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have been 
influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  Those 
switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked with 
people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to go 
through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and we 
expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully we 
can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book in 
2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the last 
15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a 
report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad 
stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will 
have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for a 
long time even without whatever she gave away.

God bless,
Ellen

On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 That's a fair comment, and one with which I completely
 agree.  I should have ask those requesting copies to contact
 me offlist, and would have done so if I expected such a
 large response.  My apologies to the list.

 Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents please
 contact me offlist.

 Thanks,

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ

 On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
 Could all of these Me too posts please be taken off
 line.  Rather than clog up the list with non Legacy me
 too posts, it would be much more considerate of other
 Legacy subscribers if folks were to contact the original
 poster via his personal email address.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI

 On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

I too would be interested in receiving copies.
Thanks
Lee Bruch

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
files after death of compi ler

JLB and Robert Austen,

Thank you both for your kind remarks.

On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy
and elsewhere,

snip

If anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference
sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that
rationale here if there is sufficient demand.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ











 --
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 Woonsocket, RI


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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
I can't believe the horror stories I have read in this thread. How
cruel to throw out so much work.  That man whose children threw out 40
years of work, I had tears in my eyes, how disrespectful!   Last night
my nephew said to put it in my will where all the records are and to
leave it to him, he promises to put it in some back room to collect
dust, someday someone will want to see it.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ellen kramer...@comcast.net wrote:
 Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

 Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
 in the name of the photo.

 Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected 
 Family Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When 
 the last Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative 
 help her to bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and 
 historical societies.  She didn't like genealogy software but wanted 
 everything in Microsoft Word using the family's old numbering system.  We 
 have corrected so many mistakes that now that numbering system is obsolete 
 and irrelevant since it was based upon birth order, some of which were very 
 wrong.

 However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
 unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the 
 Family Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have 
 been influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  
 Those switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked with 
 people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
 out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
 after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to 
 go through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
 computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
 Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
 promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
 280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and 
 we expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully 
 we can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book 
 in 2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the 
 last 15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

 Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
 relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
 even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a 
 report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad 
 stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will 
 have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for 
 a long time even without whatever she gave away.

 God bless,
 Ellen

 On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 That's a fair comment, and one with which I completely
 agree.  I should have ask those requesting copies to contact
 me offlist, and would have done so if I expected such a
 large response.  My apologies to the list.

 Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents please
 contact me offlist.

 Thanks,

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ

 On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
 Could all of these Me too posts please be taken off
 line.  Rather than clog up the list with non Legacy me
 too posts, it would be much more considerate of other
 Legacy subscribers if folks were to contact the original
 poster via his personal email address.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI

 On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

I too would be interested in receiving copies.
Thanks
Lee Bruch

-Original Message-
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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files after death of compi ler

JLB and Robert Austen,

Thank you both for your kind remarks.

On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy
and elsewhere,

snip

If anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference
sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that
rationale here if there is sufficient demand.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ











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RE: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Brian Lehman
We seem to have gotten off track a bit here guys,
I was asking about finding all individuals, living in a particular place
in a given year?
Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
In which case there is no chance that your notes would have caused problems - 
provided you didn't put it all in the date field :-)
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:

It was an older version of Legacy.  Actually, I put the notes in my
Events/Facts!
So if someone were to look for Tommaso Giunta  birth year 1873 (95)
that means the birth record of 1873, is number 95. Does that make
sense? I have a feeling I am going to be redoing my sources also.

I live in NY, I am 2nd generation Sicilian and 3rd generation Italian.
 I also have the smallest Italian/Sicilian family in the world :)  So
it is easy to write in the note, got this marriage record at this
Church name in Brooklyn, or got this note from the FHC microfilm
number 154678 etc.


On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Difficult to say from the information given below without more information.

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza


 You say notes but I suspect from another part of your post that you mean 
 sources. Which sources are you using ie. Basic or SW. and which fields do 
 you put the data in? You also say upgraded to Legacy 7.5, but it is not 
 clear whether  this from an earlier version of Legacy or  from another 
 program entirely. Perhaps you could clarify.

 In any event, I doubt if this would cause a problem (if from Legacy) .

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I
My question was, if doing it this way is the reason my tree got messed
up when it upgraded to Legacy 7.5.

This format has worked for my family and they all say it has made the
research much easier.  So again, I will ask, if this is the reason my
tree had errors when it upgraded to Legacy. I had a marriage date for
once couple, copied to two other people. One family that had 4
children, now have 8 children etc.

If anyone can answer the question, that would be great!



On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, R G Strong-genes
rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:
 MJ,
 The purpose of sourcing is so that if someone else wanted to verify the 
 data
 that you entered they could go directly to that source and find the same
 information. With the example that you have shown I would have no clue as 
 to
 where it came from. I would recommend getting the Book Evidence Explained
 Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace by Elizabeth Shown
 Mills. She is considered by most genealogist as the expert on citing 
 sources
 and this book is what the Source Writer Templates are based on. The
 Templates are numbered according to the page number where they are found in
 the book.

 -Original Message-
 From: MJ SA
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza

 95 is the index number or if noted the page number I found the record.
 I think this maybe why I had problems upgrading to the new Legacy.
 But this system works for me, when I need to go back and look at a
 record. Is this a mistake on my part? Should I do it differently?


 --
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 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
 program can be downloaded FREE at
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
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RE: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

I don't think it can be done from your Legacy program - not sure about LTools 
though. It will be possible using Access.

BTW I would have picked this up earlier, but I have been away for a few days. I 
gave up looking at stuff on my tablet because this list was filled with 
requests for some data sheets or other, so I deleted everything. I hope never 
to see such inconsideration again!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Brian Lehman blr...@optonline.net wrote:

We seem to have gotten off track a bit here guys,
I was asking about finding all individuals, living in a particular place
in a given year?
Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
I think I did put all the index numbers in the birth and death years,
lol!!  I've got a lot of fixing to do.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 In which case there is no chance that your notes would have caused problems - 
 provided you didn't put it all in the date field :-)
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:

It was an older version of Legacy.  Actually, I put the notes in my
Events/Facts!
So if someone were to look for Tommaso Giunta  birth year 1873 (95)
that means the birth record of 1873, is number 95. Does that make
sense? I have a feeling I am going to be redoing my sources also.

I live in NY, I am 2nd generation Sicilian and 3rd generation Italian.
 I also have the smallest Italian/Sicilian family in the world :)  So
it is easy to write in the note, got this marriage record at this
Church name in Brooklyn, or got this note from the FHC microfilm
number 154678 etc.


On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Difficult to say from the information given below without more information.

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza


 You say notes but I suspect from another part of your post that you mean 
 sources. Which sources are you using ie. Basic or SW. and which fields do 
 you put the data in? You also say upgraded to Legacy 7.5, but it is not 
 clear whether  this from an earlier version of Legacy or  from another 
 program entirely. Perhaps you could clarify.

 In any event, I doubt if this would cause a problem (if from Legacy) .

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I
My question was, if doing it this way is the reason my tree got messed
up when it upgraded to Legacy 7.5.

This format has worked for my family and they all say it has made the
research much easier.  So again, I will ask, if this is the reason my
tree had errors when it upgraded to Legacy. I had a marriage date for
once couple, copied to two other people. One family that had 4
children, now have 8 children etc.

If anyone can answer the question, that would be great!



On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, R G Strong-genes
rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:
 MJ,
 The purpose of sourcing is so that if someone else wanted to verify the 
 data
 that you entered they could go directly to that source and find the same
 information. With the example that you have shown I would have no clue as 
 to
 where it came from. I would recommend getting the Book Evidence Explained
 Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace by Elizabeth Shown
 Mills. She is considered by most genealogist as the expert on citing 
 sources
 and this book is what the Source Writer Templates are based on. The
 Templates are numbered according to the page number where they are found 
 in
 the book.

 -Original Message-
 From: MJ SA
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] how I site my sources

 I've made notes as to where I got my records.  So this is how I write
 the note, example

 Tommaso Giunta
 14 Nov 1833 (95)   Piazza

 95 is the index number or if noted the page number I found the record.
 I think this maybe why I had problems upgrading to the new Legacy.
 But this system works for me, when I need to go back and look at a
 record. Is this a mistake on my part? Should I do it differently?


 --
 Russell G. Strong
 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
 program can be downloaded FREE at
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
 Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .




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Re: [LegacyUG] Reference sheet

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
What is this reference sheet??  I don't seem to have the original message!

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Douglas Tighe littlehand...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes please I like one as well.

 Thanks Doug


 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:17 AM, gcr...@juno.com gcr...@juno.com wrote:

 I'd like one as well!

 Thanks

 gc



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 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of
 compi ler
 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:28:24 -0600

 I would be interested in the reference sheet.  Thanks.

 Walt
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RE: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Brian Lehman
Thanks Ron,
I'm trying to find all individuals in my data base, alive in Munzesheim
in say 1839.
Since I create an Event to record Birth, death and marriages, and I have
those dates for everybody in Munzesheim,
I am searching for individuals for, Event Placecontains - Munzesheim,
that list I search for, Death Date before - 1840.
I don't think I'm searching correctly.
I cant be the first to attempt to search for individuals in a given
place in a given year,
wondering how others do their search.
Brian






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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Brian,

I've just run an experimental test on my own database to try and emulate
what you're looking for, and this worked for me...

Look for: individual
Where: birth date
How: contains
What: 1965

AND

Look for: individual
Where: birth place
How: contains
What: auckland

... and this gave me a list of people in my database who were born in
Auckland in 1965.  I didn't specify country, I kept the search term less
specific, and it has picked up people with Auckland, New Zealand as
well as suburbs within the city.  (It would seem that I don't have
anyone born in Bishop Auckland, England, or anywhere else with
Auckland in its name in that year.)

Does this help?

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Brian Lehman said the following on 15/10/2012 8:00 a.m.:
 We seem to have gotten off track a bit here guys,
 I was asking about finding all individuals, living in a particular place
 in a given year?
 Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Wendy Howard
Ah, what you describe here is quite different to your previous email,
and I'd forgotten the details.  The search I described won't do what
you've outlined here.  It will find people born in a particular place in
a particular year, not people who may have been living in a particular
place at a particular time, regardless of when they were born.  :-(

Wendy

Brian Lehman said the following on 15/10/2012 9:22 a.m.:
 Thanks Ron,
 I'm trying to find all individuals in my data base, alive in Munzesheim
 in say 1839.
 Since I create an Event to record Birth, death and marriages, and I have
 those dates for everybody in Munzesheim,
 I am searching for individuals for, Event Placecontains - Munzesheim,
 that list I search for, Death Date before - 1840.
 I don't think I'm searching correctly.
 I cant be the first to attempt to search for individuals in a given
 place in a given year,
 wondering how others do their search.
 Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
Use the Census List Search. (Search Census List)

Bert


Op 14-10-2012 22:22, Brian Lehman schreef:
 Thanks Ron,
 I'm trying to find all individuals in my data base, alive in Munzesheim
 in say 1839.
 Since I create an Event to record Birth, death and marriages, and I have
 those dates for everybody in Munzesheim,
 I am searching for individuals for, Event Placecontains - Munzesheim,
 that list I search for, Death Date before - 1840.
 I don't think I'm searching correctly.
 I cant be the first to attempt to search for individuals in a given
 place in a given year,
 wondering how others do their search.
 Brian






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RE: [LegacyUG] Need help with a search

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

Don't you mean death date after 1839? The problem is that this will give you 
those who were not born before 1839. If you tag those who have an Event place 
for Munzesheim then this will include those who lived there in any year, so 
even if you then search this list for those born before 1839 and died after 
that year you will hardly dent the original list, because it will include those 
who lived there either before or after 1839, but not in 1839.

The problem resolves to the fact that you wish to search a specific event, or 
more than one event eg. residence and census, with a specific date which 
applies only to that Event. Even more problematical if there is no specific 
Event, would be to look for someone who was there for a prior Event, and still 
there at a subsequent one.

I'm sorry that I am only defining the problems, rather than giving a solution, 
and it just may be possible to work something out using only Legacy rather than 
SQL, but if so I have yet to see it.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Brian Lehman blr...@optonline.net wrote:

Thanks Ron,
I'm trying to find all individuals in my data base, alive in Munzesheim
in say 1839.
Since I create an Event to record Birth, death and marriages, and I have
those dates for everybody in Munzesheim,
I am searching for individuals for, Event Placecontains - Munzesheim,
that list I search for, Death Date before - 1840.
I don't think I'm searching correctly.
I cant be the first to attempt to search for individuals in a given
place in a given year,
wondering how others do their search.
Brian








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[LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
enclosed in double brackets)?

I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of those
events.

It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
.gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still not in
the .gedcom.

I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in the
original file but not in the .gedcom!!

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Pat,

An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being exported, have 
you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there when you 
import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I suggest that you 
look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that all other Events 
are there except for Property. If this is the case it really is strange.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
enclosed in double brackets)?

I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of those
events.

It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
.gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still not in
the .gedcom.

I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in the
original file but not in the .gedcom!!

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
Ron,

You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
there except for 'Property'.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying

Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did --
and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
Property.

Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the property
events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report using
the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!

I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you choose
FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I ONLY
had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor report
and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the file!!).

Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
is going on!!

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Pat,

 An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being exported,
 have you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there when
 you import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I suggest
 that you look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that all
 other Events are there except for Property. If this is the case it really
 is strange.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
 enclosed in double brackets)?
 
 I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
 including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of
 those
 events.
 
 It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
 .gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still not
 in
 the .gedcom.
 
 I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in the
 original file but not in the .gedcom!!
 
 Pat
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Pat,

OK, first things first!  Back to basics try a FileFile maintenceCheck Repair 
and repeat until no error messages i.e. no error log.

You said that you checked the files to see if the property event was there. Did 
you look at ViewMaster Events (or something like that - I am still not at home 
so cannot check) , if please take a look and let me know the outcome.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

Ron,

You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
there except for 'Property'.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying

Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did --
and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
Property.

Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the property
events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report using
the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!

I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you choose
FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I ONLY
had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor report
and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the file!!).

Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
is going on!!

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Ron Ferguson 
ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Pat,

 An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being exported,
 have you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there when
 you import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I suggest
 that you look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that all
 other Events are there except for Property. If this is the case it really
 is strange.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
 enclosed in double brackets)?
 
 I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
 including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of
 those
 events.
 
 It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
 .gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still not
 in
 the .gedcom.
 
 I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in the
 original file but not in the .gedcom!!
 
 Pat
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
I just opened the file, looked at the indiv, clicked on the individual
screen and looked at the events listed.  Property is there!

I just did File Maintenance as you suggested.  No errors.

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Pat,

 OK, first things first!  Back to basics try a FileFile maintenceCheck
 Repair and repeat until no error messages i.e. no error log.

 You said that you checked the files to see if the property event was
 there. Did you look at ViewMaster Events (or something like that - I am
 still not at home so cannot check) , if please take a look and let me know
 the outcome.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron,
 
 You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
 there except for 'Property'.
 
 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
 
 Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did
 --
 and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
 Property.
 
 Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
 Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
 property
 events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
 using
 the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
 
 I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you choose
 FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
 ONLY
 had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
 maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor report
 and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the file!!).
 
 Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
 is going on!!
 
 Pat
 
 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  Pat,
 
  An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being
 exported,
  have you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there
 when
  you import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I suggest
  that you look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that all
  other Events are there except for Property. If this is the case it
 really
  is strange.
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  GOONS #5307
 
 
  Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
  enclosed in double brackets)?
  
  I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
  including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of
  those
  events.
  
  It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
  .gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still
 not
  in
  the .gedcom.
  
  I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in
 the
  original file but not in the .gedcom!!
  
  Pat
  
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Pat,

I think that you are looking somewhere difcerent from where I suggested i.e. I 
wjsh you to look at the Master Events List, which you find by going  to the 
View button on the toolbar.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

I just opened the file, looked at the indiv, clicked on the individual
screen and looked at the events listed.  Property is there!

I just did File Maintenance as you suggested.  No errors.

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Ron Ferguson 
ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Pat,

 OK, first things first!  Back to basics try a FileFile maintenceCheck
 Repair and repeat until no error messages i.e. no error log.

 You said that you checked the files to see if the property event was
 there. Did you look at ViewMaster Events (or something like that - I am
 still not at home so cannot check) , if please take a look and let me know
 the outcome.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron,
 
 You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
 there except for 'Property'.
 
 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
 
 Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did
 --
 and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
 Property.
 
 Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
 Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
 property
 events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
 using
 the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
 
 I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you choose
 FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
 ONLY
 had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
 maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor report
 and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the file!!).
 
 Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
 is going on!!
 
 Pat
 
 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  Pat,
 
  An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being
 exported,
  have you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there
 when
  you import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I suggest
  that you look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that all
  other Events are there except for Property. If this is the case it
 really
  is strange.
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  GOONS #5307
 
 
  Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except what's
  enclosed in double brackets)?
  
  I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
  including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot* of
  those
  events.
  
  It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a new
  .gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still
 not
  in
  the .gedcom.
  
  I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still in
 the
  original file but not in the .gedcom!!
  
  Pat
  
  


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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Austen
Hi Ellen,

Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only means something if the 
person looking at it has YOUR Legacy file - even then the number can be 
changed.  You also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to look up 
the number.  This applies to MRIN #'s as well.  Have a look at John Zimmerman's 
recent posts about naming - well presented and good food for thought.  I file 
photos by birth name - last name, given names, dates - other info such as 
Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth Certificate  Anyone can find their 
way through my file without a program or an index.  I also make good use of the 
IPTC info section embedded in digital photos for additional info.

Congratulations on the work you are doing.  I am the unofficial 'keeper of the 
tree' in my family.  I have a couple boxes of poorly organized documents 
however, everything has been scanned and everything is kept digitally in my 
file and reasonably well organized.  I also am aware that the DVD's that my 
data is stored on will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost.  Most of 
my family is fairly interested in some of the information but not genealogy per 
se.  My wife had a great system of filling paper documents but had over seventy 
4 binders with about 1500 family members.  I know my small local public 
library would NOT be interested in them even though we have a great genealogy 
section (about one half of one floor).  I have close to 30,000 family members 
in my file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 26,000 in my document file.  
How does one do a paper system for that?  I would need the whole library to 
store my data on paper!

A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about 20 members.  My (limited, 
at that time) genealogy info and charts were a great hit.  I had also asked 
most to give me a short story, or testimonial, about themselves and many 
responded - some at great length.  I think it's time to send the request out 
again!

Keep up the good work.  Regardless of where mine ends up it is a fascinating 
hobby and I have been blessed by all the people I have met along the way.

Bob


-Original Message-
From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi 
ler

Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
in the name of the photo.

Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected Family 
Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When the last 
Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative help her to 
bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and historical societies.  
She didn't like genealogy software but wanted everything in Microsoft Word 
using the family's old numbering system.  We have corrected so many mistakes 
that now that numbering system is obsolete and irrelevant since it was based 
upon birth order, some of which were very wrong.

However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the Family 
Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have been 
influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  Those 
switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked with 
people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to go 
through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and we 
expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully we 
can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book in 
2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the last 
15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a 
report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad 
stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will 
have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for a 
long time even without whatever she gave away.

God bless,
Ellen

On Oct 14, 2012, at 

[LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
any restrictions?



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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating a 
website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen 
instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
above two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Robert Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:

Hi Ellen,

Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only means something if the 
person looking at it has YOUR Legacy file - even then the number can be 
changed.  You also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to look up 
the number.  This applies to MRIN #'s as well.  Have a look at John 
Zimmerman's recent posts about naming - well presented and good food for 
thought.  I file photos by birth name - last name, given names, dates - other 
info such as Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth Certificate  Anyone 
can find their way through my file without a program or an index.  I also make 
good use of the IPTC info section embedded in digital photos for additional 
info.

Congratulations on the work you are doing.  I am the unofficial 'keeper of the 
tree' in my family.  I have a couple boxes of poorly organized documents 
however, everything has been scanned and everything is kept digitally in my 
file and reasonably well organized.  I also am aware that the DVD's that my 
data is stored on will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost.  Most 
of my family is fairly interested in some of the information but not genealogy 
per se.  My wife had a great system of filling paper documents but had over 
seventy 4 binders with about 1500 family members.  I know my small local 
public library would NOT be interested in them even though we have a great 
genealogy section (about one half of one floor).  I have close to 30,000 
family members in my file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 26,000 in my 
document file.  How does one do a paper system for that?  I would need the 
whole library to store my data on paper!

A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about 20 members.  My (limited, 
at that time) genealogy info and charts were a great hit.  I had also asked 
most to give me a short story, or testimonial, about themselves and many 
responded - some at great length.  I think it's time to send the request out 
again!

Keep up the good work.  Regardless of where mine ends up it is a fascinating 
hobby and I have been blessed by all the people I have met along the way.

Bob


-Original Message-
From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
compi ler

Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
in the name of the photo.

Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected 
Family Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When 
the last Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative help 
her to bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and historical 
societies.  She didn't like genealogy software but wanted everything in 
Microsoft Word using the family's old numbering system.  We have corrected so 
many mistakes that now that numbering system is obsolete and irrelevant since 
it was based upon birth order, some of which were very wrong.

However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the 
Family Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have 
been influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  
Those switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked with 
people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to 
go through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and 
we expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully 
we can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book 
in 2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the 
last 15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
even have a 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Ferguson
I do not believe in paying an excessive price for an ipad, so my tablet is an 
Android - which I am typing this on - saved me lots of money!

For Legacy there is the TelGen app which I use on my Android set up, and it is 
great. It is basically the same in use as the ipad version. I would definitely 
recommend it. I am unsure what you mean by restrictions, you can run it on more 
than one device without further payment and it reads/writes directly from/to 
your Legacy file. I do not know but I suspect that the Ancestry app will only 
allow the reading of their website, and possible links with FTM.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:

I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
any restrictions?



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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
Ron,

If I click on ViewMaster ListsMaster Event Definition List, there is an
Event entitled Property.   This is true for both my primary file and the
.gedcom.

Is that what you mean?

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Pat,

 I think that you are looking somewhere difcerent from where I suggested
 i.e. I wjsh you to look at the Master Events List, which you find by going
  to the View button on the toolbar.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just opened the file, looked at the indiv, clicked on the individual
 screen and looked at the events listed.  Property is there!
 
 I just did File Maintenance as you suggested.  No errors.
 
 Pat
 
 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  Pat,
 
  OK, first things first!  Back to basics try a FileFile maintenceCheck
  Repair and repeat until no error messages i.e. no error log.
 
  You said that you checked the files to see if the property event was
  there. Did you look at ViewMaster Events (or something like that - I am
  still not at home so cannot check) , if please take a look and let me
 know
  the outcome.
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  GOONS #5307
 
 
  Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ron,
  
  You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events
 are
  there except for 'Property'.
  
  Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
  
  Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I
 did
  --
  and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events
 labeled
  Property.
  
  Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
  Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
  property
  events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
  using
  the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
  
  I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you
 choose
  FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
  ONLY
  had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
  maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor
 report
  and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the
 file!!).
  
  Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out
 what
  is going on!!
  
  Pat
  
  On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Ron Ferguson 
 ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
  wrote:
  
   Pat,
  
   An obvious question, but how do you know that they are not being
  exported,
   have you looked at the GEDCOM in a text editor, or are they not there
  when
   you import the file back into Legacy? If only the latter then I
 suggest
   that you look at the GEDCOM. In that connection, are you saying that
 all
   other Events are there except for Property. If this is the case it
  really
   is strange.
   Ron Ferguson
   http://www.fergys.co.uk/
   GOONS #5307
  
  
   Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Is there a way to direct that gedcoms include EVERYTHING (except
 what's
   enclosed in double brackets)?
   
   I am suddenly having a problem with my .gedcom -- it's/they're not
   including individual events named Property -- and I have *a lot*
 of
   those
   events.
   
   It's in the .gedcom export list (.gel)  -- I went back  created a
 new
   .gedcom checking to be sure it was in the .gel I was using but still
  not
   in
   the .gedcom.
   
   I don't understand what's going on!  The property events are still
 in
  the
   original file but not in the .gedcom!!
   
   Pat
   
   
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread Ron Bernier
Actually, the Ancestry app does not aync/interface with FTM.  The Ancestry
app only connects to Ancestry.  Supposedly the app will accept a gedcom,
but I haven't tried that.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

On Sunday, October 14, 2012, Ron Ferguson wrote:

 I do not believe in paying an excessive price for an ipad, so my tablet is
 an Android - which I am typing this on - saved me lots of money!

 For Legacy there is the TelGen app which I use on my Android set up, and
 it is great. It is basically the same in use as the ipad version. I would
 definitely recommend it. I am unsure what you mean by restrictions, you can
 run it on more than one device without further payment and it reads/writes
 directly from/to your Legacy file. I do not know but I suspect that the
 Ancestry app will only allow the reading of their website, and possible
 links with FTM.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 MJ SA michs...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:

 I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
 app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
 I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
 any restrictions?
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Lee Bruch
Ron: could you explain why?
I have always used blank spaces in filenames since Windows 95 and have never 
had problems with saving or opening them on websites. But maybe there are 
problems that I'm not aware of on other computers.
For actually naming webpages, well, that's a different matter.
Lee

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi 
ler

Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating a 
website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen 
instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
above two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread JLB
I have thousands of file names with spaces in them because I like the
look of it better. IF I should ever decide to put them online, a free
program called Bulk Rename Utility can change the names of files (i.e.
add hyphens or underscores) in a matter of minutes to tens of thousands
of files at once, so don't be paranoid on this issue.
--
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/14/2012 5:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Bob,

 Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating 
 a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or 
 hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.

 In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
 above two.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Robert Austenrgaus...@telus.net  wrote:

 Hi Ellen,

 Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only means something if 
 the person looking at it has YOUR Legacy file - even then the number can be 
 changed.  You also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to look up 
 the number.  This applies to MRIN #'s as well.  Have a look at John 
 Zimmerman's recent posts about naming - well presented and good food for 
 thought.  I file photos by birth name - last name, given names, dates - 
 other info such as Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth Certificate  
 Anyone can find their way through my file without a program or an index.  I 
 also make good use of the IPTC info section embedded in digital photos for 
 additional info.

 Congratulations on the work you are doing.  I am the unofficial 'keeper of 
 the tree' in my family.  I have a couple boxes of poorly organized documents 
 however, everything has been scanned and everything is kept digitally in my 
 file and reasonably well organized.  I also am aware that the DVD's that my 
 data is stored on will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost.  Most 
 of my family is fairly interested in some of the information but not 
 genealogy per se.  My wife had a great system of filling paper documents but 
 had over seventy 4 binders with about 1500 family members.  I know my small 
 local public library would NOT be interested in them even though we have a 
 great genealogy section (about one half of one floor).  I have close to 
 30,000 family members in my file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 
 26,000 in my document file.  How does one do a paper system for that?  I 
 would need the whole library to store my data on paper!

 A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about 20 members.  My 
 (limited, at that time) genealogy info and charts were a great hit.  I had 
 also asked most to give me a short story, or testimonial, about themselves 
 and many responded - some at great length.  I think it's time to send the 
 request out again!

 Keep up the good work.  Regardless of where mine ends up it is a fascinating 
 hobby and I have been blessed by all the people I have met along the way.

 Bob


 -Original Message-
 From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
 compi ler

 Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

 Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN 
 # in the name of the photo.

 Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected 
 Family Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When 
 the last Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative 
 help her to bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and 
 historical societies.  She didn't like genealogy software but wanted 
 everything in Microsoft Word using the family's old numbering system.  We 
 have corrected so many mistakes that now that numbering system is obsolete 
 and irrelevant since it was based upon birth order, some of which were very 
 wrong.

 However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
 unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the 
 Family Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have 
 been influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  
 Those switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked 
 with people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was 
 reaching out to others and forming a committee which is working on 
 finalizing a book after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have 
 about 12-13 boxes to go through, but we have compiled all the prior 
 published research into the computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections 
 of info, run Potential Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from 
 everyone possible with a promise of a free print out of their grandparents 
 on down.  Next year is the 280th 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread MJ
I like the Ancestry app for seeing my tree quickly, it works great on my Ipad 
and on my nexus 7 tablet.  I am also considering the app so I look forward to 
the feed back.
 
Have a great day! 
Mary Jane  http://allwrappedup4u.blogspot.com/
http://foundingfamilylines.blogspot.com



 From: MJ SA michs...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:07 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
any restrictions?



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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Brian/Support
Pat,

Check the Master Event Named Property. Make sure that it is NOT marked
Private. If the Master Event is marked private those events will not be
included in reports unless you tell Legacy to include Private Master
Events on the Privacy tab of the Report Options.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 14/10/2012 18:42, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Ron,

 You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
 there except for 'Property'.

 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying

 Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did --
 and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
 Property.

 Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
 Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the property
 events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report using
 the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!

 I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you choose
 FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I ONLY
 had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
 maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor report
 and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the file!!).

 Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
 is going on!!

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread MJ SA
I would like to be able to work on my family tree, like fixing my
sources, on the app on the ipad.  I will be on bed rest for a few
weeks, that is why I am thinking the IPAD maybe the way to go, but
when Ancestry told me you can't do any research on it, just to view
your tree, it made me think, what other programs can't be used
properly  on the IPAD.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote:
 Actually the app is from a third party supplier Tel Gen, and it's called
 Families.

 I use the Android version, but it's virtually identical to the IPAD version.
 In my opinion, it's great for viewing your data (including multimedia) on a
 portable device. Although some will disagree, although it allows input of
 new data, I find that part of it a bit awkward, but that might just be my
 unfamiliarity using the on screen keybord.

 Paul Gray




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 I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
 app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
 I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
 any restrictions?



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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Austen
Hi Ron,

Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and fill 
in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had heard 
of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's written as 
'amp'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.

Your thoughts?

Bob



-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi 
ler

Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating a 
website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen 
instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
above two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307






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RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Austen
Thanks JL,

I agree with the looks of the file names.

I just heard of Bulk Rename Utility, so will keep it in mind if/when I publish 
to the web.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi 
ler

I have thousands of file names with spaces in them because I like the look of 
it better. IF I should ever decide to put them online, a free program called 
Bulk Rename Utility can change the names of files (i.e.
add hyphens or underscores) in a matter of minutes to tens of thousands of 
files at once, so don't be paranoid on this issue.
--
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/





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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-14 Thread Pat Hickin
Brian, I checked the first person's first property event and the button for
Not Private is selected.
I don't see a way to make ALL property events private.
 There are NO and NO property events in the .gedcom and NO property events
in the .pdf created from the primary file (even though there are lots of
property events in the primary file).

Pat

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:

 Pat,

 Check the Master Event Named Property. Make sure that it is NOT marked
 Private. If the Master Event is marked private those events will not be
 included in reports unless you tell Legacy to include Private Master
 Events on the Privacy tab of the Report Options.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 --

 On 14/10/2012 18:42, Pat Hickin wrote:
  Ron,
 
  You asked, In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
  there except for 'Property'.
 
  Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
 
  Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did
 --
  and no Property Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
  Property.
 
  Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
  Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
 property
  events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
 using
  the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
 
  I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you
 choose
  FileOpen it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
 ONLY
  had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
  maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor
 report
  and still NO Property Events (though they're right there in the
 file!!).
 
  Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
  is going on!!
 
  Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread hwedhlor
Hi Ellen,

Thank you for posting the story of your work as the Family
Historian!  I very much enjoyed reading of the work you are
doing and applaud your sensible approach to organizing the
data you were provided, to gathering more and to making it
available to others in your family.

Keep up the great work,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/14/2012 10:42 AM, Ellen wrote:
 Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

 Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
 in the name of the photo.

 Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected 
 Family Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When 
 the last Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative 
 help her to bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and 
 historical societies.  She didn't like genealogy software but wanted 
 everything in Microsoft Word using the family's old numbering system.  We 
 have corrected so many mistakes that now that numbering system is obsolete 
 and irrelevant since it was based upon birth order, some of which were very 
 wrong.

 However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
 unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the 
 Family Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have 
 been influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  
 Those switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never worked with 
 people.  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
 out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
 after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to 
 go through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
 computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
 Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
 promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
 280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and 
 we expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully 
 we can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book 
 in 2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the 
 last 15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

 Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
 relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
 even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a 
 report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad 
 stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will 
 have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for 
 a long time even without whatever she gave away.

 God bless,
 Ellen

 On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 That's a fair comment, and one with which I completely
 agree.  I should have ask those requesting copies to contact
 me offlist, and would have done so if I expected such a
 large response.  My apologies to the list.

 Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents please
 contact me offlist.

 Thanks,

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ

 On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
 Could all of these Me too posts please be taken off
 line.  Rather than clog up the list with non Legacy me
 too posts, it would be much more considerate of other
 Legacy subscribers if folks were to contact the original
 poster via his personal email address.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI

 On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

 I too would be interested in receiving copies.
 Thanks
 Lee Bruch

 -Original Message-
 From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net javascript:;]
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:56 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
 files after death of compi ler

 JLB and Robert Austen,

 Thank you both for your kind remarks.

 On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy
 and elsewhere,

 snip

 If anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
 five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference
 sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that
 rationale here if there is sufficient demand.

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ











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 Woonsocket, RI


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Ipad, how is it?

2012-10-14 Thread hwedhlor
Hi MJ,

I run the Families app on an iPad 2 and enjoy using it very
much. I served as a beta for the app on iPhone and iPad and
can vouch for the intelligent and responsive attitude of
TelGen.  The Families will allow you to work on your family
tree on the iPad, or on an Android-based tablet.  Data from
your Legacy database is synced to the tablet and if changes
are made to the database on that tablet they may be synced
back to Legacy your computer. Photos may be displayed on the
iPad and you can search on surnames or given names, RINs and
by location.  Display modes include individual, family,
pedigree, descendant and timeline.  There is a photo gallery
and photos may be displayed as thumbnails or full-screen.
You may also view and edit your data, including events and
sources.  Relationship may also be viewed.

Of course if you have access to Ancestry you can sign on to
their website with the browser on the iPad and search there
with the iPad.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/14/2012 6:12 PM, MJ SA wrote:
 I would like to be able to work on my family tree, like fixing my
 sources, on the app on the ipad.  I will be on bed rest for a few
 weeks, that is why I am thinking the IPAD maybe the way to go, but
 when Ancestry told me you can't do any research on it, just to view
 your tree, it made me think, what other programs can't be used
 properly  on the IPAD.

 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote:
 Actually the app is from a third party supplier Tel Gen, and it's called
 Families.

 I use the Android version, but it's virtually identical to the IPAD version.
 In my opinion, it's great for viewing your data (including multimedia) on a
 portable device. Although some will disagree, although it allows input of
 new data, I find that part of it a bit awkward, but that might just be my
 unfamiliarity using the on screen keybord.

 Paul Gray




 On Oct 14, 2012, MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am thinking of getting an Ipad. Ancestry told me that they have an
 app, you can view your family tree, but you can't do much searching.
 I know Legacy has an app, does anyone use it for the Ipad, are there
 any restrictions?



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