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Re: [LegacyUG] How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and forth to view them?

2012-10-15 Thread MJ SA

Awesome!!! Thank you so much!

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Wendy Howard  wrote:
> It's called "Split View".  You may already have an icon for it visible in
> the bar above your family in Legacy, otherwise via the menu go View > Split
> Screen View.
>
> You'll be asked "Do you want to open a different Family File in the new
> window?" - click on the Yes button to then select a second file.  Clicking
> on the No button will result in the same file being opened in the new
> window, so you can look at two different parts of the same file.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM, MJ SA  wrote:
>>
>> How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and
>> forth to view them?
>>
>> M
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Re: [LegacyUG] How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and forth to view them?

2012-10-15 Thread Wendy Howard

It's called "Split View".  You may already have an icon for it visible in
the bar above your family in Legacy, otherwise via the menu go View > Split
Screen View.

You'll be asked "Do you want to open a different Family File in the new
window?" - click on the Yes button to then select a second file.  Clicking
on the No button will result in the same file being opened in the new
window, so you can look at two different parts of the same file.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM, MJ SA  wrote:

> How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and
> forth to view them?
>
> M
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Using uppercase letters in file names

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

Thank you.  You're absolutely right.  The default setting is
"Convert to lowercase letters", but options are provided to
"Convert to UPPERCASE" and "Don't change case".

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/15/2012 12:44 PM, bgsu1...@gmail.com wrote:
> hwedhlor  proclaimed:
>
>> When Legacy creates
>> a web page ALL image file names (as well as folder names)
>> are converted to lower case
> I believe the Filenames option on the Web Page Creation Formatting tab
> controls this. So don't assume Legacy does this automatically.
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[LegacyUG] Concerning Google and underscores

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

Brian,

Thanks for the link. Interesting reading, but not something
that has much impact for me in naming image files. Google is
concerned primarily with searching out keywords, and many
folks would like each word in a series of words to be
"searchable." That's not a concern for me in placing an
image file in a web page. If Google tries to search a web
page of genealogical data there are plenty of instances of
the various surnames on a web page for Google to "find"
without having to search through the image file names.
Google apparently treats words connected by underscores as a
single word (e.g. "This_is_a_single_word_to_Google"). That's
not a concern when it comes to image file names, and
changing to hyphens between the works degrades readability
considerably, so I'll stick with underscores until such time
as they cause a real problem.

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/15/2012 12:25 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>
> And just to show that the entire Internet is still in its
> infancy, along comes Google and changes the ground rules
> for the underscore. Interesting reading here…
>
> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/04/of-spaces-underscores-and-dashes.html
>
> OK, at the risk of this entire thread getting off-topic,
> it does bear some importance to Legacy users who want to
> put their files on the Web. But I think the moderator is
> about to pull the plug on this anyhow.
>
> Brian in CA
>
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[LegacyUG] How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and forth to view them?

2012-10-15 Thread MJ SA

How can I have two different family trees open and switch back and
forth to view them?

M



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy-created genealogical webpages/websites

2012-10-15 Thread Wm Voss

Do to its size and complexity, I only post a stripped down version of my
silversmith project file:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~silversmiths/makers/silversmiths/

The front page and a few specialized tables are hand-built, but the
various indexes and individual pedigree pages are built in Legacy and
cleaned up with LTools. I do use a lot of imbedded html coding in my
Legacy file.

Wm Voss



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[LegacyUG] Legacy-created genealogical webpages/websites

2012-10-15 Thread Tony Rolfe

Here's mine

http://www.gillandtony.com/genealogy/newindex.php

Apart from the front page (which is hand-crafted HTML) all other pages
were created by Legacy

Regards

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy-created genealogical webpages/websites

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Thanks, Margaret,

But when I clicked on
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mturner/gay

I got this message: We're sorry. The page you tried to access is not
availableThe page may have moved, or there may be an error in the address.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Margaret Turner wrote:

> This is the correct link for sample page with html coding for images
> http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mturner/gay/pedigree/40.htm
>
>
> On 16 October 2012 08:40, Margaret Turner  wrote:
>
>> This was done some years ago for a friend in America:
>> customised front page
>> http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mturner/gay
>>
>> Sample page with html coding for images
>> http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mturner/gay/pedigree/40.htm
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> On 16 October 2012 07:58, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone give me some examples of Legacy-created genealogical
>>> webpages/website?  *i.e., * some links to  same??
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Austen

Thanks to Ron Ferguson, John Zimmerman, JLB, and others, for their comments on 
characters, spaces, underscores, etc.   Your were of great help.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical 
files after death of compi ler

Bob,

You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
but potentially a problem.

To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your server, 
and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does not mean 
it is true fir all. For some "ron ferguson.jpg" will be fine, but others can 
change it to "ron%20ferguson.jpg" which is not the same and the image will not 
be visible. As always, safety first.

JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it is 
best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. "RonFerguson.jpg". 
This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential future problems.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting event sentence definitions to a .gedcom

2012-10-15 Thread Brian/Support

I have no knowledge of Wikitree. You could always try a Legacy GEDCOM
and see what Wikitree does with the Event Sentence Definitions. I
suspect they will be ignored or reported as errors.

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On 15/10/2012 16:52, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Thanks, Brian,
>
> I am doing this for Wikitree.  And I think I have to do it as a GEDCOM 5.5.
>   Do you happen to know?
>
> Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread JLB

If this is all too complicated, just mark the album pages with numbers
in pencil and then create a list of descriptions in a text document.
Trust me, anything is better than nothing. Scanning for long-term
preservation would also be good if you can get it done.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/15/2012 2:10 PM, JLB wrote:
> I would use a Flip-Pal as a last resort/emergency measure only. It's
> good for traveling when you need a mobile scanner and it's better than
> nothing in that case. I believe it only saves images as JPG's which is a
> compressed format and not suitable for editing.
>
> If the photos are in your album at home, as you say they are, you have
> total control. I would scan them on a flatbed scanner using at least
> 300dpi, *at least* twice the size of the originals (in case you ever
> want to reprint them) and save them as uncompressed TIFF's.
>
> All photo information can be added using good IPTC software. I add the
> names as keywords, and the order of the people in the photo, L-R, in the
> caption. My recommendations for that are GeoSetter or XnView (both free)
> or Photo Mechanic.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 10/15/2012 11:26 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
>> In a recent Legacy webinar about the FlipPal mobile scanner they showed
>> how you could write on a transparent sheet of glass (?) and lay that
>> over the photo you are scanning, then scan it once with the writing and
>> once without. That allows you to "write on" the photo with circles &
>> arrows, etc., without damaging the photo. I thought that was pretty
>> cool. I think they sell you the glass/plexiglass on their website...?
>> --Paula
>>
>>
>> 
>> *From:* Paulette 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Sat, October 13, 2012 11:28:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death
>> of compi ler
>>
>> I am interested also. I have several albums of old photos of ancestors
>> and others. I am the only one left who can identify the people on the
>> photographs and it is becoming urgent for me to do so. I am reticent
>> marking the original photos. What is your recommendation? Thank you.
>>
>> Paulette,
>> Camarillo, Ca



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[LegacyUG] Legacy-created genealogical webpages/websites

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Can someone give me some examples of Legacy-created genealogical
webpages/website?  *i.e., * some links to  same??

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting event sentence definitions to a .gedcom

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Thanks, Brian,

I am doing this for Wikitree.  And I think I have to do it as a GEDCOM 5.5.
 Do you happen to know?

Pat

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Brian/Support
wrote:

> GEDCOM 5.5 Does not understand event sentence definitions. Those are
> custom tags that only apply to Legacy. If you export a GEDCOM in 5.5
> format there will be no Event Sentences exported. To export the Event
> Sentences in a GEDCOM you have to choose Legacy as the destination format.
>
> Brian
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>
> On 15/10/2012 12:08, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Legacy version 7.5.0.208  Build date: 14 Sep 2012
> >
> > How do I export event sentence definitions to a .gedcom 5.5 (UTF-8)?
> >
> > This "sentence" appears in an Ancestors .pdf done from a new .gedcom.
> >
> >
> > " She owned She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto), F40, M21, F3 in 1860 in ,
> > WASHINGTON, VA, USA. "
> >
> >
> > In the original file (or ancestor report from same) the sentence reads:
> > "Property: 1860, WASHINGTON, VA, USA.   She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto),
> > F40, M21, F3"
> >
> > I certainly do not want to have to go thru the entire .gedcom and re-edit
> > event sentence definitions!
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > (Patricia Prickett Hickin)
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Yes, Brian, That was it -- I hadn't checked to override private events
because I have never *knowingly* marked an event as private.

Incidentally, I can't find where Legacy Help tells us directly how to mark
a particular* type* of event (e.g., property) as "private."  I see
allusions/references but no direct instructions.  Am I missing something?
 (I looked for it when you first made the suggestion and re-checked just
now.  But I admittedly have a problem with Legacy Help!)

Pat

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Brian/Support
wrote:

> You misunderstood where I told you to check for private. Events may be
> marked as private at the Master Event level.
> Open the Master Event list
> Select the Property Event
> Check there that the EVENT is not marked as private.
>
> If the Event is marked as private and you have not overridden private
> events they will NOT be exported in a GEDCOM. That may be why your
> GEDCOM has no Property Events.
>
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>
>
> On 14/10/2012 22:03, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Brian, I checked the first person's first property event and the button
> for
> > "Not Private" is selected.
> > I don't see a way to make ALL property events private.
> >   There are NO and NO property events in the .gedcom and NO property
> events
> > in the .pdf created from the primary file (even though there are lots of
> > property events in the primary file).
> >
> > Pat
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting event sentence definitions to a .gedcom

2012-10-15 Thread Brian/Support

GEDCOM 5.5 Does not understand event sentence definitions. Those are
custom tags that only apply to Legacy. If you export a GEDCOM in 5.5
format there will be no Event Sentences exported. To export the Event
Sentences in a GEDCOM you have to choose Legacy as the destination format.

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On 15/10/2012 12:08, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Legacy version 7.5.0.208  Build date: 14 Sep 2012
>
> How do I export event sentence definitions to a .gedcom 5.5 (UTF-8)?
>
> This "sentence" appears in an Ancestors .pdf done from a new .gedcom.
>
>
> " She owned She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto), F40, M21, F3 in 1860 in ,
> WASHINGTON, VA, USA. "
>
>
> In the original file (or ancestor report from same) the sentence reads:
> "Property: 1860, WASHINGTON, VA, USA.   She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto),
> F40, M21, F3"
>
> I certainly do not want to have to go thru the entire .gedcom and re-edit
> event sentence definitions!
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Pat
>
> (Patricia Prickett Hickin)
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-15 Thread Brian/Support

You misunderstood where I told you to check for private. Events may be
marked as private at the Master Event level.
Open the Master Event list
Select the Property Event
Check there that the EVENT is not marked as private.

If the Event is marked as private and you have not overridden private
events they will NOT be exported in a GEDCOM. That may be why your
GEDCOM has no Property Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 14/10/2012 22:03, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Brian, I checked the first person's first property event and the button for
> "Not Private" is selected.
> I don't see a way to make ALL property events private.
>   There are NO and NO property events in the .gedcom and NO property events
> in the .pdf created from the primary file (even though there are lots of
> property events in the primary file).
>
> Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Wes

On 10/13/2012 2:55 AM, hwedhlor wrote:
>   If
> anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
> five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference sheet,
> both in MS Word format, or to publish that rationale here if
> there is sufficient demand.
I would be very interested in this.  You can send it to me offline at
wes...@gmail.com

Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching for an un-sourced event

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Search > Find > Missing Sources tab

Though I don't see "Census" or "Events" as a choice, there is one for
"Anything"...?

Or did you already try this?
 --Paula




From: Dave Johnson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, October 15, 2012 9:11:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Searching for an un-sourced event


I'm trying to clean up all my data with legitimate sources.  It would really
help if I can find all Census Events that have not been sourced.  Can anyone
suggest a way to do this?

Thanks,

Dave



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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

Excellent point, Paula.

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/15/2012 11:34 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Remember, though, the nightmare you will cause yourself in
> relinking files to Legacy if you use a bulk renaming
> utility outside Legacy.
> Support recommends renaming photo files in the Picture Center.
> There is no short-cut, though, for files linked to
> sources/citations.
> --Paula
>
>
> 
> *From:* hwedhlor 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Mon, October 15, 2012 1:04:13 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
> files after death of compi ler
>
> Windows will allow spaces, as well as a host of symbols in
> file names, and it's true that you can use programs to
> search and replace spaces (and other characters).  I'm
> partial to one called The Rename, by Herve Thouzard.  Having
> said that I find the underscore to provide the visual
> separation necessary to make file names both readable, and
> useable in both Windows and on a website under HTML or XML.
> By using the underscore between components in my file names
> I feel that I get the best of both worlds and won't have to
> make changes at a later date.
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
> On 10/14/2012 5:33 PM, JLB wrote:
> > I have thousands of file names with spaces in them
> because I like the
> > look of it better. IF I should ever decide to put them
> online, a free
> > program called Bulk Rename Utility can change the names
> of files (i.e.
> > add hyphens or underscores) in a matter of minutes to
> tens of thousands
> > of files at once, so don't be paranoid on this issue.
> > --
> > JL Beeken
> > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
> >
> > On 10/14/2012 5:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some
> time consider creating a website - do not have spaces in
> your file names, use an underscore or hyphen instead,
> otherwise they may well not work.
> >>
> >> In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters
> in addition to the above two.
> >> Ron Ferguson
> >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> >> GOONS #5307
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Austen" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Ellen,
> >>>
> >>> Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only
> means something if the person looking at it has YOUR
> Legacy file - even then the number can be changed.  You
> also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to
> look up the number.  This applies to MRIN #'s as well.
> Have a look at John Zimmerman's recent posts about naming
> - well presented and good food for thought.  I file photos
> by birth name - "last name, given names, dates - other
> info" such as "Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth
> Certificate" Anyone can find their way through my file
> without a program or an index.  I also make good use of
> the IPTC info section embedded in digital photos for
> additional info.
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations on the work you are doing.  I am the
> unofficial 'keeper of the tree' in my family.  I have a
> couple boxes of poorly organized documents however,
> everything has been scanned and everything is kept
> digitally in my file and reasonably well organized.  I
> also am aware that the DVD's that my data is stored on
> will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost.  Most
> of my family is fairly interested in some of the
> information but not genealogy per se.  My wife had a great
> system of filling paper documents but had over seventy 4"
> binders with about 1500 family members.  I know my small
> local public library would NOT be interested in them even
> though we have a great genealogy section (about one half
> of one floor).  I have close to 30,000 family members in
> my file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 26,000 in my
> document file.  How does one do a paper system for that?
> I would need the whole library to store my data on paper!
> >>>
> >>> A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about
> 20 members.  My (limited, at that time) genealogy info and
> charts were a great hit.  I had also asked most to give me
> a short story, or testimonial, about themselves and many
> responded - some at great length.  I think it's time to
> send the request out again!
> >>>
> >>> Keep up the good work.  Regardless of where mine ends
> up it is a fascinating hobby and I have been blessed by
> all the people I have met along the way.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net
> ]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
> >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
> files after death of compi ler
> >>>
> >>> Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death
> of compiler.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding photos, we have too many

Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

Paula,

You are very welcome.  It would be a shame if the work we
have dedicated so many years to were never shared, or worse,
discarded out of hand by those who didn't know, or care what
it represented.

John

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/15/2012 11:21 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> John, Thank you for your thoughtful response, especially
> this bit...
> --Paula i
>
>
> 
> *From:* hwedhlor 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Fri, October 12, 2012 5:57:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
> files after death of compi ler
>
> 
>
> Don't let the "unfinished" nature
> of your research keep you from distributing what you already
> have.  Better to publish some of your incomplete, or poorly
> sourced research than to let it be lost if you die
> suddenly.
> 
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Using uppercase letters in file names

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

Doc types aside, whether you are using HTML, XML or the
various versions of XHTML, you may still use image file
names with uppercase, or mixed case, so long as those file
names are enclosed in quotation marks.  If any of those web
languages could not accept entries enclosed in quotation
marks that included uppercase letters, then they would not
be able to display simple text sentences, which they
obviously can do.

One further note.  Legacy has no problem creating a web page
using image file names that contain underscores, hyphens or
ampersands, nor does it balk at using image file names that
contain some, or all uppercase letters.  When Legacy creates
a web page ALL image file names (as well as folder names)
are converted to lower case and stored in the location of
your choosing.  No further manipulation of those file names
is conducted by Legacy.  It does not strip away any
underscore, hyphen or ampersand symbols from those file
names, nor is it unable to display image files whose file
names contain any of those symbols.

Image files for Legacy-created web pages are kept in a
Pictures folder location that can be designated by the user
at the time the web page code is generated.  Since I choose
to use some uppercase letters in my image file names I would
designate a separate Pictures folder location for web file
images.  As the image files I use for Legacy are contained
in the following folder structure:

C:\Legacy7\Pictures

And since there are three subfolders (Docs, Groups and
Places) under that main Pictures folder, I would take care
that I directed Legacy to place image files for any web page
it created in another place. For example:

C:\Legacy7\web\zimmerman_web_page\webpictures

That way my original picture files would retain their
uppercase characteristics.  The additional image files
created by Legacy for use with the web page take up very
little disk space as Legacy reduces the size of the
originals for use on the web.  Those file sizes are
determined by the size you choose for the displayed images
in the web page.  As an example, an image file that was 42KB
and 238x258 pixels in my Legacy Pictures folder was reduced
to only 5KB and 161x231 pixels when converted for use on a
web page where I chose to display images in Medium size.
The entire array of 218 images for that web page took up
1.13MB of disk space in the web page webpictures folder.

I notice that one alteration was made to six image file
names.  Each of them were of Schmidt family members and the
file names were converted to lowercase and preceded by the
letter "b" followed by an underscore.  I have been unable to
determine how those six image files differed in any way from
the remaining 212 image files.

Out of curiosity I altered an image file in the webpictures
folder to all uppercase letters.  I also altered the HTML
code associated with displaying that image file so that the
filename it contained was also all uppercase letters.  The
result was that the image was displayed without incident.

I am aware that many Legacy users are not fond of the web
pages created by Legacy, but for those of you who choose to
use Legacy to create a web page there is no need to alter
your image files to make them all lowercase, or to remove
underscores, hyphens or ampersands.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/15/2012 9:30 AM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
> Ron,
> It depends on the doc type for the website and whether you wish the site to
> be compliant to that doc type. For example if the website is just HTML
> coding the ampersand has no problems, however some of the newer types are to
> be XHTML compliant and are encoded with PHP coding both of which do have
> problems with the ampersand and other characters that should be spelled out
> with their code. Also with XHTML everything should be in lowercase.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Austen
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:19 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of
> compi ler
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I
> appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and
> fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and
> 'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had
> heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's
> written as '&'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of
> compi ler
>
> Bob,
>
> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider
> creating a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an
> underscore or hyphen instead, otherwise th

Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

In a recent Legacy webinar about the FlipPal mobile scanner they showed how you
could write on a transparent sheet of glass (?) and lay that over the photo you
are scanning, then scan it once with the writing and once without.  That allows
you to "write on" the photo with circles & arrows, etc., without damaging the
photo.  I thought that was pretty cool.  I think they sell you the
glass/plexiglass on their website...?
 --Paula





From: Paulette 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, October 13, 2012 11:28:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi
ler

I am interested also.  I have several albums of old photos of ancestors and
others. I am the only one left who can identify the people on the photographs
and it is becoming urgent for me to do so. I am reticent marking the original
photos.  What is your recommendation?  Thank you.

Paulette,
Camarillo, Ca

Sent from my iPad



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Re: [LegacyUG] Centering of Descendant Chart

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Look along the left hand side for options on selecting boxes to move... that is
whole branches can be moved or the whole thing could be "centered."
 --Paula

From: RHS Consulting 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, October 10, 2012 3:33:51 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Centering of Descendant Chart

Can chart boxes be sized individually in a customized fashion with vertical and
horizontal adjustments?  I see a lot of empty,
unused space in my boxes?  In some programs, the chart boxes auto-adjust.  Any
chances with Legacy?

Richard

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search files and your next generation

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Thanks for the reminder to use fb for this purpose.  I have occasionally
posted--"found my parents in the 1940 census!" and the like--but could do more.
 --Paula





From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON 



Every once in a while I come across a tidbit that will have more general
interest.  I put it on Facebook (most of my "friends" are relatives or
genealogists).  That provides a reminder to a broader audience.  (My latest was
the fact that I am a fourth cousin of Katherine Hepburn.  The one before that
was a reference to an  article about Alice Rand, a 1600s ancestor.)

 ~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Remember, though, the nightmare you will cause yourself in relinking files to
Legacy if you use a bulk renaming utility outside Legacy.
Support recommends renaming photo files in the Picture Center.
There is no short-cut, though, for files linked to sources/citations.
 --Paula





From: hwedhlor 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, October 15, 2012 1:04:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi
ler

Windows will allow spaces, as well as a host of symbols in
file names, and it's true that you can use programs to
search and replace spaces (and other characters).  I'm
partial to one called The Rename, by Herve Thouzard.  Having
said that I find the underscore to provide the visual
separation necessary to make file names both readable, and
useable in both Windows and on a website under HTML or XML.
By using the underscore between components in my file names
I feel that I get the best of both worlds and won't have to
make changes at a later date.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/14/2012 5:33 PM, JLB wrote:
> I have thousands of file names with spaces in them because I like the
> look of it better. IF I should ever decide to put them online, a free
> program called Bulk Rename Utility can change the names of files (i.e.
> add hyphens or underscores) in a matter of minutes to tens of thousands
> of files at once, so don't be paranoid on this issue.
> --
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 10/14/2012 5:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider 
>> creating a
>>website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen
>>instead, otherwise they may well not work.
>>
>> In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the
>>above two.
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> GOONS #5307
>>
>>
>> "Robert Austen"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ellen,
>>>
>>> Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only means something if 
>>> the
>>>person looking at it has YOUR Legacy file - even then the number can be
>>>changed.  You also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to look up 
>>>the
>>>number.  This applies to MRIN #'s as well.  Have a look at John Zimmerman's
>>>recent posts about naming - well presented and good food for thought.  I file
>>>photos by birth name - "last name, given names, dates - other info" such as
>>>"Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth Certificate"  Anyone can find their 
>>>way
>>>through my file without a program or an index.  I also make good use of the 
>>>IPTC
>>>info section embedded in digital photos for additional info.
>>>
>>> Congratulations on the work you are doing.  I am the unofficial 'keeper of 
>>> the
>>>tree' in my family.  I have a couple boxes of poorly organized documents
>>>however, everything has been scanned and everything is kept digitally in my 
>>>file
>>>and reasonably well organized.  I also am aware that the DVD's that my data 
>>>is
>>>stored on will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost.  Most of my
>>>family is fairly interested in some of the information but not genealogy per
>>>se.  My wife had a great system of filling paper documents but had over 
>>>seventy
>>>4" binders with about 1500 family members.  I know my small local public 
>>>library
>>>would NOT be interested in them even though we have a great genealogy section
>>>(about one half of one floor).  I have close to 30,000 family members in my
>>>file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 26,000 in my document file.  How 
>>>does
>>>one do a paper system for that?  I would need the whole library to store my 
>>>data
>>>on paper!
>>>
>>> A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about 20 members.  My 
>>> (limited,
>>>at that time) genealogy info and charts were a great hit.  I had also asked 
>>>most
>>>to give me a short story, or testimonial, about themselves and many 
>>>responded -
>>>some at great length.  I think it's time to send the request out again!
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work.  Regardless of where mine ends up it is a fascinating
>>>hobby and I have been blessed by all the people I have met along the way.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
>>> compi
>>>ler
>>>
>>> Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.
>>>
>>> Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN 
>>> #
>>>in the name of the photo.
>>>
>>> Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected 
>>> Family
>>>Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When the last
>>>Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative he

Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Always a good reminder!!
I don't do a website, but I started removing spaces from my filenames a few
years back "just in case."
 --Paula

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Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating a
website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen
instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the above
two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Ellen,  This sounds like a lot of fun - thanks for sharing here.  I might just
be able to get other family members on Legacy!
 --Paula

From: Ellen 
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... and solicited updates from everyone possible with a promise of a free print
out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 280th anniversary of our
first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and we expect to have the book
ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully we can have much more of the
articles and things scanned and in the next book in 2020.  Forty years is way to
long for people to wait for a book with the last 15 years having someone in
charge who doesn't even own a computer.

Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant relatives
have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We even have a
few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a report of the
deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad stories, I
thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will have to check
out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for a long time even
without whatever she gave away.

God bless,
Ellen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Are There Settings for Chart Page Breaks

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

I move the boxes in Charting before I print, so they don't end up on the edge of
a page.  In fact, I can generally move generations or family groups to use the
minimum pieces of paper (reducing time taping).
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





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Subject: [LegacyUG] Are There Settings for Chart Page Breaks


I want to print out a multi-page chart and glue the 20 ea 8½x11" sheets
together.  I need sheets with page breaks so as not to glue going through names
and boxes but rather around them.  Does Legacy have such a chart break setting?

Richard


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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

John, Thank you for your thoughtful response, especially this bit...
 --Paula i

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Don't let the "unfinished" nature
of your research keep you from distributing what you already
have.  Better to publish some of your incomplete, or poorly
sourced research than to let it be lost if you die
suddenly.

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

Thank you, JL, for posting that, because now I am giggling at least. ;)
 --Paula

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You win the prize for writing the most depressing post I've ever read.

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Paula Ryburn

I am heartbroken to read this, and I don't know any of you!
I've just updated our instructions.
Thanks for bringing this up.
 --Paula

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I personally knew of a situation where a friend and fellow genealogist who
helped me get started had all his research PAPERS (including correspondence
spanning several years) PITCHED when his 'loving children' thought he was on his
death bed. 40 years of meticulous gladiolus hybridizing records suffered the
same fate. He survived his "impending death" scare only to learn when he was
well enough to come home that his children had rented a dumpster, parked it at
the front door and got rid of all his "crap". He later told me he didn't have
one scrap of paper left to show for 40+ years of hybridizing OR genealogy. I
would have LOVED to have, at least been offered, the chance to pick through what
he had since we had a common ancestor.

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread R G Strong-genes

Ron,
It depends on the doc type for the website and whether you wish the site to
be compliant to that doc type. For example if the website is just HTML
coding the ampersand has no problems, however some of the newer types are to
be XHTML compliant and are encoded with PHP coding both of which do have
problems with the ampersand and other characters that should be spelled out
with their code. Also with XHTML everything should be in lowercase.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Robert Austen
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of
compi ler

Hi Ron,

Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I
appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and
fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and
'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had
heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's
written as '&'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.

Your thoughts?

Bob



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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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compi ler

Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider
creating a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an
underscore or hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the
above two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

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[LegacyUG] Exporting event sentence definitions to a .gedcom

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Legacy version 7.5.0.208  Build date: 14 Sep 2012

How do I export event sentence definitions to a .gedcom 5.5 (UTF-8)?

This "sentence" appears in an Ancestors .pdf done from a new .gedcom.


" She owned She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto), F40, M21, F3 in 1860 in ,
WASHINGTON, VA, USA. "


In the original file (or ancestor report from same) the sentence reads:
"Property: 1860, WASHINGTON, VA, USA.   She had 4 slaves: M40 (mulatto),
F40, M21, F3"

I certainly do not want to have to go thru the entire .gedcom and re-edit
event sentence definitions!

Thanks!!

Pat

(Patricia Prickett Hickin)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching for an un-sourced event

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Ferguson

Dave,

I am not on my PC so cannot check. I am unsure whether you can directly seach 
for a specific source, but I am pretty sure that there is a search for missing 
sources - maybe in Search>Find>Miscellaneous. It may be possible to tag these 
and then search for the tag AND Event name contains "census".

This is just off the top of my head, and you may have to play around a bit, but 
I think it is possible. If it doesn't work, and no one else comments then I 
should be able to look tonight or maybe tomorrow am, UK time.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

"Dave Johnson"  wrote:

>I'm trying to clean up all my data with legitimate sources.  It would really
>help if I can find all Census Events that have not been sourced.  Can anyone
>suggest a way to do this?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-15 Thread Pat Hickin

Ron,

Aha!!  Yes, that's it!!!  How it happened, I don't know -- I don't think
I've ever clicked the Edit button there before OR ever knowingly marked an
event as "Private." (I would have expected to find the privacy button under
Options!).

Thanks a million, Ron!!

Pat

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Pat,
>
> I think that there was a problem with my last post (low battery), so
> apologies if duplicated.
>
> I think that you are looking in the wrong place. Brian was *not* referring
> to the individuals' privacy settings but the Master Event privacy, that is
> the one accessed using "View" on the tool-bar.
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> GOONS #5307
>
>
> "Pat Hickin"  wrote:
>
> >Brian, I checked the first person's first property event and the button
> for
> >"Not Private" is selected.
> >I don't see a way to make ALL property events private.
> > There are NO and NO property events in the .gedcom and NO property events
> >in the .pdf created from the primary file (even though there are lots of
> >property events in the primary file).
> >
> >Pat
> >
> >On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Brian/Support
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Pat,
> >>
> >> Check the Master Event Named Property. Make sure that it is NOT marked
> >> Private. If the Master Event is marked private those events will not be
> >> included in reports unless you tell Legacy to include Private Master
> >> Events on the Privacy tab of the Report Options.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >> Customer Support
> >> Millennia Corporation
> >> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >> --
> >>
> >> On 14/10/2012 18:42, Pat Hickin wrote:
> >> > Ron,
> >> >
> >> > You asked, "In that connection, are you saying that all other Events
> are
> >> > there except for 'Property'."
> >> >
> >> > Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
> >> >
> >> > Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I
> did
> >> --
> >> > and no "Property" Events!  Personal property yes, but not events
> labeled
> >> > "Property."
> >> >
> >> > Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
> >> > Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
> >> property
> >> > events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
> >> using
> >> > the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
> >> >
> >> > I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you
> >> choose
> >> > "File>Open" it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
> >> ONLY
> >> > had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
> >> > maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor
> >> report
> >> > and still NO "Property" Events (though they're right there in the
> >> file!!).
> >> >
> >> > Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out
> what
> >> > is going on!!
> >> >
> >> > Pat
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread JLB

Ron, I wasn't saying that you're wrong about what you said, just that
it's not necessary to go changing all the file names on your computer
unless you plan on uploading your files to the web. The few that I do
upload I change prior. It's a different batch of work.

Of course, if you're linking your files to Legacy (which I don't) and
creating web pages from Legacy (which I don't) then, yes, you might as
well get it right the first time. Hyphenate and ampersand away there.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/15/2012 1:36 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Bob,
>
> You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
> also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
> but potentially a problem.
>
> To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your 
> server, and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does 
> not mean it is true fir all. For some "ron ferguson.jpg" will be fine, but 
> others can change it to "ron%20ferguson.jpg" which is not the same and the 
> image will not be visible. As always, safety first.
>
> JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
> where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
> which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
> that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
> Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it 
> is best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. 
> "RonFerguson.jpg". This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential 
> future problems.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> GOONS #5307
>
>
> "Robert Austen"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
>> appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and 
>> fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
>> 'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had 
>> heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's 
>> written as '&'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
>> compi ler
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider 
>> creating a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an 
>> underscore or hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.
>>
>> In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
>> above two.
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> GOONS #5307
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing online Griffith's Valuation in Legacy

2012-10-15 Thread Jenny M Benson

mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> Why not  make your own template?
>
> Create a  new source, enter all the generic parts of the source. Save it
> as
>  Griffiths. Then when you need it cite it select it as a Master Source.
> Add
> the  specifics of the document that you are looking at, then save as a new
> source.
>
> That way you are not forcing the needed parts  into a format that might
> not
> be appropriate.

What you say amounts to "use Basic Sourcing."  That's always an option, of
course, but the OP asked "which template should I use?" which indicates
that he/she wants to use SourceWriter.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Ferguson

Pat,

I think that there was a problem with my last post (low battery), so apologies 
if duplicated.

I think that you are looking in the wrong place. Brian was *not* referring to 
the individuals' privacy settings but the Master Event privacy, that is the one 
accessed using "View" on the tool-bar.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"Pat Hickin"  wrote:

>Brian, I checked the first person's first property event and the button for
>"Not Private" is selected.
>I don't see a way to make ALL property events private.
> There are NO and NO property events in the .gedcom and NO property events
>in the .pdf created from the primary file (even though there are lots of
>property events in the primary file).
>
>Pat
>
>On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Brian/Support
>wrote:
>
>> Pat,
>>
>> Check the Master Event Named Property. Make sure that it is NOT marked
>> Private. If the Master Event is marked private those events will not be
>> included in reports unless you tell Legacy to include Private Master
>> Events on the Privacy tab of the Report Options.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> --
>>
>> On 14/10/2012 18:42, Pat Hickin wrote:
>> > Ron,
>> >
>> > You asked, "In that connection, are you saying that all other Events are
>> > there except for 'Property'."
>> >
>> > Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
>> >
>> > Also you suggested that I open the .gedcom in a text editor, which I did
>> --
>> > and no "Property" Events!  Personal property yes, but not events labeled
>> > "Property."
>> >
>> > Now what is even stranger to my way of thinking is that I just used my
>> > Primary file to create an Ancestor Report-- checked to be sure the
>> property
>> > events were still in the file-- they are; created the Ancestor Report
>> using
>> > the primary file and there are no property events in the report!!
>> >
>> > I even went back to Legacy, made sure -- well you know how,when you
>> choose
>> > "File>Open" it shows the four most recently used files?  I made sure I
>> ONLY
>> > had my primary paternal file in the list of four (the other three were
>> > maternal side files), opened the P_Side file and redid the Ancestor
>> report
>> > and still NO "Property" Events (though they're right there in the
>> file!!).
>> >
>> > Now that is *really* weird!!!  For the life of me,I can't figure out what
>> > is going on!!
>> >
>> > Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] gedcom export lists

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Ferguson

Bob,

You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
but potentially a problem.

To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your server, 
and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does not mean 
it is true fir all. For some "ron ferguson.jpg" will be fine, but others can 
change it to "ron%20ferguson.jpg" which is not the same and the image will not 
be visible. As always, safety first.

JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it is 
best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. "RonFerguson.jpg". 
This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential future problems.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

"Robert Austen"  wrote:

>Hi Ron,
>
>Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
>appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and fill 
>in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
>'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had heard 
>of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's written as 
>'&'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
>compi ler
>
>Bob,
>
>Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating 
>a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen 
>instead, otherwise they may well not work.
>
>In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
>above two.
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>GOONS #5307
>
>
>
>
>

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[LegacyUG] Using symbols in image file names

2012-10-15 Thread hwedhlor

I have never had any difficulties with the underscore (_),
hyphen (-) or ampersand (&) characters in file names on
websites.  The only reason I have inserted the ampersand
character in file names at all is that it provided a more
readable separation between the names of married couples for
entry of a marriage record and it saved the space that would
have been used by two more characters if I had used "and"
for the connector, thereby lengthening the file name.  The
hyphen has provided a useful means of indicating either
maiden names, or married names, as well as a means of
depicting birth and death years when naming a file depicting
a headstone (e.g.
SMITH_JOHN_W_HEADSTONE_1857-1944_GRANDLAWN_CEM_DETROIT_MI.JPG).
Windows has no objection to any of the three symbols in file
names, so Legacy does not either.

The file names I have discussed using on websites are all
image files, usually JPG files. HyperText Markup Language
(HTML) uses a variety of symbols as instructions.  If one of
those symbols were entered in a line of HTML code by itself
they would cause trouble because HTML would try to follow
the instructions the symbol represented.  However filenames
of images for display are entered into HTML code in a very
distinctive manner that avoids the issue of how to interpret
symbols.  Such file names are preceded by code that tells
HTML that what follows will be the location and file name of
file for display.  The location and name of the file are
then enclosed in quotation marks.  HTML then simply looks
for the file name in the appropriate folder.

A typical HTML entry for a marriage record image might look
like this:

Here is an explanation of the components of the entry above:

1.   - tells the browser that is the end of the image
source information.

Such an image file instruction might also be preceded by
instructions on how to align the images on the page or
within a table as a cell.

I hope this helps clear up some questions.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 10/14/2012 6:19 PM, Robert Austen wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
> appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and 
> fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
> 'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had 
> heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's 
> written as '&'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
> compi ler
>
> Bob,
>
> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating 
> a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or 
> hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.
>
> In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
> above two.
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> GOONS #5307
>
>
>
>
>
>
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