[LegacyUG] Legacy and the Families app for Mac products

2013-08-09 Thread Carolyn
I have a friend who is interested in this, is there someone out there who is 
already using it, who can answer some questions please.

Many thanks.
Carolyn


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Generated Web Pages - Pictures

2013-08-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

You are correct. The suggestions have been made many times, but the response 
has been something like "we would not know where to put them".

You have identified the only way of  doing this through events, and not using 
the vital events Legacy provides.

Ron Ferguson


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"Brian L. Lightfoot"  wrote:

>I've always considered that Legacy has done a fairly decent job in the
>creation of web pages. And I realize that web page generation is really a
>secondary consideration to any genealogical software program so I don't want
>to get bogged down into why Millennia doesn't immediately jump on this to
>get HTML problems fixed right away. Maybe the following point has been
>discussed before but it just occurred to me today as I was generating
>Pedigree Chart type of web pages. When it comes to picture options, there
>are not many options such as those found in Ancestor or Descendant Reports.
>There is merely the option to include event pictures, the individual
>picture, and their display and enlarged sizes. However, I have some pictures
>in "Birth Pictures", "Marriage Pictures", and "Death Pictures".
>Surprisingly, these photos are not included in the output. Apparently Legacy
>does not consider birth, marriage, or death to be an event. J
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>A quick check of the other types of generated web pages such as Ancestor,
>Descendant, Family Group, and Individual also shows that any pictures for
>these events are also omitted. The "Notes" entered for any of these events
>ARE included but the pictures are NOT.
>
>
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>Anyone else ever confirm this? I suppose I could force a new type of event
>such as "Birth" and attach a picture to that birth event but any of the
>detailed information entered into that event would be just duplicating
>something that already exists. And besides, it would look strange to see
>such information being listed twice for each person on any web page. Maybe a
>birth event with no information other than an attached picture? Seems
>ludicrous but as it stands, any pictures attached to the "Birth /
>Christening / Death Pictures" area under the Plus Sign on the Legacy Family
>View are falling into a black hole.
>
>
>
>Is there a better workaround that I haven't thought of?
>
>
>
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>Brian in CA
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Generated Web Pages - Pictures

2013-08-09 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
I've always considered that Legacy has done a fairly decent job in the
creation of web pages. And I realize that web page generation is really a
secondary consideration to any genealogical software program so I don't want
to get bogged down into why Millennia doesn't immediately jump on this to
get HTML problems fixed right away. Maybe the following point has been
discussed before but it just occurred to me today as I was generating
Pedigree Chart type of web pages. When it comes to picture options, there
are not many options such as those found in Ancestor or Descendant Reports.
There is merely the option to include event pictures, the individual
picture, and their display and enlarged sizes. However, I have some pictures
in "Birth Pictures", "Marriage Pictures", and "Death Pictures".
Surprisingly, these photos are not included in the output. Apparently Legacy
does not consider birth, marriage, or death to be an event. J



A quick check of the other types of generated web pages such as Ancestor,
Descendant, Family Group, and Individual also shows that any pictures for
these events are also omitted. The "Notes" entered for any of these events
ARE included but the pictures are NOT.



Anyone else ever confirm this? I suppose I could force a new type of event
such as "Birth" and attach a picture to that birth event but any of the
detailed information entered into that event would be just duplicating
something that already exists. And besides, it would look strange to see
such information being listed twice for each person on any web page. Maybe a
birth event with no information other than an attached picture? Seems
ludicrous but as it stands, any pictures attached to the "Birth /
Christening / Death Pictures" area under the Plus Sign on the Legacy Family
View are falling into a black hole.



Is there a better workaround that I haven't thought of?





Brian in CA






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RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name

2013-08-09 Thread Charles Apple
Alan,

Although not technically correct, I combine the prefix with the surname in 
order to prevent two surnames. De and Le are French-Norman prefixes meaning “of 
the,” therefore, and especially in the case of “De” these prefix’s sometimes 
denoted people that were landed wealthy aristocrats. Many such prefixes have 
been combined over the years, i.e., Devoe, Devane, etc. The prefix “Fitz” is 
also French-Norman originating from a Latin prefix, which means “son of.” A 
common surname that has been combined in FitzGerald. And there are many, many 
others . . . .

My suggestion is to do what is understandable and comfortable to you. It is 
your data.

Charles

From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 4:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name

I have seen some systems that work around that problem by having a second 
surname field which is used for sorting purposes (UK National Burial Index uses 
that process).  I'm not sure that Legacy could accommodate that without a major 
rewrite.
Alan Pereira

From: Tim [mailto:t@tesco.net]
Sent: 08 August 2013 17:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name

Further to Jackie’s recent post on foreign names, it appears to me that le 
Clerke and de Dompere are full family surnames in their own right rather like 
van and von attached to Dutch surnames and should be listed under L and D 
respectively.
My problem is when at some stage in medieval times, ‘de’ attached to a surname 
denoting place of origin of the family, is no longer used. For instance, I have 
numerous ‘de HATFIELD’ and ‘HATFIELD’ of the same family which appear under D 
and H in the name list, and which is confusing. I am thinking of changing ‘de 
HATFIELD’ to ‘HATFIELD, de’ so that they all appear under the letter H.
Any views?
Tim




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RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name

2013-08-09 Thread Chris Seens
Have you considered using the Alias feature for names in Legacy?  You can put 
the 'de' and 'le' names there.
Have a great day.

Chris

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On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Alan Pereira 
wrote:

> I have seen some systems that work around that problem by having a second 
> surname field which is used for sorting purposes (UK National Burial Index 
> uses that process).  I'm not sure that Legacy could accommodate that without 
> a major rewrite.
> Alan Pereira
>
> From: Tim [mailto:t@tesco.net]
> Sent: 08 August 2013 17:13
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name
>
> Further to Jackie’s recent post on foreign names, it appears to me that le 
> Clerke and de Dompere are full family surnames in their own right rather like 
> van and von attached to Dutch surnames and should be listed under L and D 
> respectively.
> My problem is when at some stage in medieval times, ‘de’ attached to a 
> surname denoting place of origin of the family, is no longer used. For 
> instance, I have numerous ‘de HATFIELD’ and ‘HATFIELD’ of the same family 
> which appear under D and H in the name list, and which is confusing. I am 
> thinking of changing ‘de HATFIELD’ to ‘HATFIELD, de’ so that they all appear 
> under the letter H.
> Any views?
> Tim
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RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name

2013-08-09 Thread Alan Pereira
I have seen some systems that work around that problem by having a second 
surname field which is used for sorting purposes (UK National Burial Index uses 
that process).  I'm not sure that Legacy could accommodate that without a major 
rewrite.

Alan Pereira



From: Tim [mailto:t@tesco.net]
Sent: 08 August 2013 17:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name



Further to Jackie’s recent post on foreign names, it appears to me that le 
Clerke and de Dompere are full family surnames in their own right rather like 
van and von attached to Dutch surnames and should be listed under L and D 
respectively.

My problem is when at some stage in medieval times, ‘de’ attached to a surname 
denoting place of origin of the family, is no longer used. For instance, I have 
numerous ‘de HATFIELD’ and ‘HATFIELD’ of the same family which appear under D 
and H in the name list, and which is confusing. I am thinking of changing ‘de 
HATFIELD’ to ‘HATFIELD, de’ so that they all appear under the letter H.

Any views?

Tim



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