Re: [LegacyUG] Version 8

[Tony Rolfe]

Hi, Wendy

That is strange.  I have just gone back 3 pages in the archive and
neither my original nor this second attempt appears there.  I did have
an earlier thread "V8 Shared events" which does appear there, but this
one - nothing.

However, I've just looked "By Date" and both are there.  "By Thread"
neither are there.  How odd!

Thanks for getting in touch

Cheers

Tony

On 13/08/2013 11:56 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> I'm sending this reply both directly to you and to the list, to ensure
> you see it.
>
> Several people responded to your original post - my email service shows
> 14 emails in that thread.
>
> You might like to check the list's archive for them.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> Tony Rolfe said the following on 13/08/2013 1:19 p.m.:
>> I sent this to the list a week ago and it didn't appear, so I thought
>> I'd try again...
>>
>> All the features that have appeared in "Legacy 8 Revealed" articles are
>> interesting and nice-to-have. The tagging options and the instant
>> duplicate checking alone will be worth the upgrade for me.
>>
>> However, I was wondering whether Legacy 8 will attack the fundamental
>> problems with Legacy 7?   Specifically the requirement for non-standard
>> installation, the use of old-fashioned file requesters and the inability
>> to have more than one window active at a time.  These have dragged on
>> ever since I first used Legacy 4 and now the new programming environment
>> is being used  I'm hoping that these issues will disappear.
>>
>> The other thing I'm hoping to hear is that locations have become
>> time-sensitive, so we can keep track of how towns have moved from county
>> to county, countries have changed name etc.
>>
>> Here's hoping
>>
>> Tony
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 8

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Tony,

I'm sending this reply both directly to you and to the list, to ensure
you see it.

Several people responded to your original post - my email service shows
14 emails in that thread.

You might like to check the list's archive for them.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Tony Rolfe said the following on 13/08/2013 1:19 p.m.:
> I sent this to the list a week ago and it didn't appear, so I thought
> I'd try again...
>
> All the features that have appeared in "Legacy 8 Revealed" articles are
> interesting and nice-to-have. The tagging options and the instant
> duplicate checking alone will be worth the upgrade for me.
>
> However, I was wondering whether Legacy 8 will attack the fundamental
> problems with Legacy 7?   Specifically the requirement for non-standard
> installation, the use of old-fashioned file requesters and the inability
> to have more than one window active at a time.  These have dragged on
> ever since I first used Legacy 4 and now the new programming environment
> is being used  I'm hoping that these issues will disappear.
>
> The other thing I'm hoping to hear is that locations have become
> time-sensitive, so we can keep track of how towns have moved from county
> to county, countries have changed name etc.
>
> Here's hoping
>
> Tony



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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 8

[CE WOOD]

Do you also have dreams at night...?

CE

> From: geneal...@gillandtony.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 8
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:19:44 +1000
>
> I sent this to the list a week ago and it didn't appear, so I thought
> I'd try again...
>
> All the features that have appeared in "Legacy 8 Revealed" articles are
> interesting and nice-to-have. The tagging options and the instant
> duplicate checking alone will be worth the upgrade for me.
>
> However, I was wondering whether Legacy 8 will attack the fundamental
> problems with Legacy 7?   Specifically the requirement for non-standard
> installation, the use of old-fashioned file requesters and the inability
> to have more than one window active at a time.  These have dragged on
> ever since I first used Legacy 4 and now the new programming environment
> is being used  I'm hoping that these issues will disappear.
>
> The other thing I'm hoping to hear is that locations have become
> time-sensitive, so we can keep track of how towns have moved from county
> to county, countries have changed name etc.
>
> Here's hoping
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Version 8

[Tony Rolfe]

I sent this to the list a week ago and it didn't appear, so I thought
I'd try again...

All the features that have appeared in "Legacy 8 Revealed" articles are
interesting and nice-to-have. The tagging options and the instant
duplicate checking alone will be worth the upgrade for me.

However, I was wondering whether Legacy 8 will attack the fundamental
problems with Legacy 7?   Specifically the requirement for non-standard
installation, the use of old-fashioned file requesters and the inability
to have more than one window active at a time.  These have dragged on
ever since I first used Legacy 4 and now the new programming environment
is being used  I'm hoping that these issues will disappear.

The other thing I'm hoping to hear is that locations have become
time-sensitive, so we can keep track of how towns have moved from county
to county, countries have changed name etc.

Here's hoping

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] File ID numbers ( & CLOOZ question)

[MVMcgrs]

I don't  know if it will integrate with each other. I keep each as a
separate  program. I also use the KISS principal and label my documents Birth 
001,
Birth  002; Death 001; Military 001; Nat 001 etc. I don't have a wide
variety  of categories. Obits, tombstone info, death notices all go under  
Death.

Same with  births, baptisms, birth announcements, newspaper announcements
that deal with  Birth get listed under Births.

The number goes in the Legacy File ID number. I  enter the document in
Clooz, give it a category and number, link people to the  document and fill in
the detail screen or not. The program does much more than I  use it for. I
just want to keep track of the documents I've already got copies  of. Then I
know if the info came from an index I know I need the actual  document.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori  Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 8/12/2013 8:59:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
yosbutter...@yahoo.com writes:


Hi, will the Clooz3  integrate with the new legacy8, or should I wait to
see if they need to update  before I purchase it? I don't want to have to redo
(again) if I download  the free trial and then it doesn't. The paper
trails I have get lost in my legacy (and my house!!) because I never thought  
out
ahead of time how to name, subdivide, and keep track of all my paper
files. I use the marriage record numbers now, but it gets  cumbersome.
Marli  Yoder






From:  "mvmc...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 8,  2013 7:49 AM
Subject: Re:  [LegacyUG] File ID numbers






Take a look at the Clooz  page http://clooz.com/

I'm off to a volunteer job  and will give you more detail when I get back.

Marie

Marie Varrelman  Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service  marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 8/8/2013 2:23:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kmthoms...@gmail.com writes:


Marie, I would be interested to know more about the CLOOZ number/method
you mentioned.
Can you briefly explain a bit more about it so I can know  if it's
something I can use in conjunction with my existing  system?


Thanks
















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Re: [LegacyUG] File ID numbers ( & CLOOZ question)

[Marli Yoder]

Hi, will the Clooz3 integrate with the new legacy8, or should I wait to see if 
they need to update before I purchase it? I don't want to have to redo (again) 
if I download the free trial and then it doesn't. The paper trails I have get 
lost in my legacy (and my house!!) because I never thought out ahead of time 
how to name, subdivide, and keep track of all my paper files. I use the 
marriage record numbers now, but it gets cumbersome.
Marli Yoder

From: "mvmc...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File ID numbers






Take a look at the Clooz page http://clooz.com/
 
I'm off to a volunteer job and will give you more detail when I get back.
 
Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service 
marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by 
Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 8/8/2013 2:23:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
kmthoms...@gmail.com writes:
Marie, I would be interested to know more about the CLOOZ number/method you 
mentioned.
>Can you briefly explain a bit more about it so I can know if it's something I 
>can use in conjunction with my existing system?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
> 


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[LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - New Wall Charts and options

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Some cool new charts...visit http://tinyurl.com/k4smpar for the details.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and Migration Reports

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
Migration Reports

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: singhals
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:47 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
> Migration Reports
>
> Randy Clark wrote:
>> What's been helpful to me is this
>>
>>
>>Euler diagram:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:British_Isles_Euler_diagram_15.svg
>
> Well, OK, how do those three islands (including Man) manage
> to be British without being part of the UK?  Are they
> Territories or Protectorates, or what?
>
> Cheryl the mildly puzzled
>
>
> Cheryl,
>
> They are Crown Dependencies ( btw it includes all the channel Isles, not
> just Jersey and Guernsey). Basically they run their own affairs and
> Britain
> agrees to look after their defensive needs.

Thanks, Ron. Are Crown Dependencies categorically different
from a Protectorate?  Or can I use the analogy?

Cheryl

Cheryl,

Apologies for the slight delay in coming back to you - I have been away for
a few days.

As I understand it a Protectorate is rather different in that the
relationship between the state and the mother country is much closer, with
the mother country exercising some degree of control over the state. Whereas
with the Crown Dependencies GB only takes responsibility for their defence,
or to be more general their foreign policy. For example, the CI and IoM are
not constituent states of the European Community, but are associated through
their relationship with the UK.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Fred Lindsay]

Thanks Jenny.
Fred

> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:18:17 +0100
>
> On 11/08/2013 22:39, Fred Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available for
> > viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> > because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned about
> > using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that says "
> > If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* > *Customize*
> >  > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> > I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it to
> > get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> > Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?
>
> You don't need to change your choice in Options if you only want to add
> one Source in Basic style.
>
> When you click on Add Source, the first option in the list on the left
> is "*Add a Basic Style Source" and clicking on that takes you straight
> into the Basic Source screen, rather than through all the selections for
> a SW template.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[Kathy Thompson]

Very true.
I think I will go for the CD as the main entry, and then reference the specific 
Gazette from within the citation, that way I have just one master source for 
the 20+ citations



Kathy

On 13/08/2013, at 12:03 AM, singhals  wrote:

> (G)  As the editor is famous for saying -- I don't need it
> GOOD, I need it NOW! (g)
>
> There are so many ways to cite something, someone will
> always think you're wrong. I must have had 30 or 40
> different style sheets, and none of them agreed on much of
> anything, by the time my son got out of high school.
>
> Cheryl
>
> Kathy Thompson wrote:
>> that makes sense too - even the Hizzlefink's bit **grin**
>>
>> I guess it's the long-term student in me wanting to get it right
>>
>>
>> On 12 August 2013 23:42, singhals > > wrote:
>>
>>Keep It Short and Sweet -- Use the Government citation, and
>>in the comments, put "as seen on Hizzlefinks' CD
>>reproduction of 2011."
>>
>>Cheryl
>>
>>Kathy Thompson wrote:
>>> Anyone got ANY ideas for this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 August 2013 18:46, Kathy Thompson
>>mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and
>>>which is the best source template to use, for
>>Government
>>>related Gazettes, that can now be found on a CD-ROM
>>>produced by another organisation, which is
>>unrelated to
>>>either the government that produced the Gazettes,
>>or the
>>>area of employment that the Gazette cover.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[singhals]

(G)  As the editor is famous for saying -- I don't need it
GOOD, I need it NOW! (g)

There are so many ways to cite something, someone will
always think you're wrong. I must have had 30 or 40
different style sheets, and none of them agreed on much of
anything, by the time my son got out of high school.

Cheryl

Kathy Thompson wrote:
> that makes sense too - even the Hizzlefink's bit **grin**
>
> I guess it's the long-term student in me wanting to get it right
>
>
> On 12 August 2013 23:42, singhals  > wrote:
>
> Keep It Short and Sweet -- Use the Government citation, and
> in the comments, put "as seen on Hizzlefinks' CD
> reproduction of 2011."
>
> Cheryl
>
> Kathy Thompson wrote:
>  > Anyone got ANY ideas for this?
>  >
>  >
>  > On 8 August 2013 18:46, Kathy Thompson
> mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com>
>  >  >> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and
>  > which is the best source template to use, for
> Government
>  > related Gazettes, that can now be found on a CD-ROM
>  > produced by another organisation, which is
> unrelated to
>  > either the government that produced the Gazettes,
> or the
>  > area of employment that the Gazette cover.
>  >
>  > Any suggestions?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[Kathy Thompson]

that makes sense too - even the Hizzlefink's bit **grin**

I guess it's the long-term student in me wanting to get it right


On 12 August 2013 23:42, singhals  wrote:

> Keep It Short and Sweet -- Use the Government citation, and
> in the comments, put "as seen on Hizzlefinks' CD
> reproduction of 2011."
>
> Cheryl
>
> Kathy Thompson wrote:
> > Anyone got ANY ideas for this?
> >
> >
> > On 8 August 2013 18:46, Kathy Thompson  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and
> > which is the best source template to use, for Government
> > related Gazettes, that can now be found on a CD-ROM
> > produced by another organisation, which is unrelated to
> > either the government that produced the Gazettes, or the
> > area of employment that the Gazette cover.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[singhals]

Keep It Short and Sweet -- Use the Government citation, and
in the comments, put "as seen on Hizzlefinks' CD
reproduction of 2011."

Cheryl

Kathy Thompson wrote:
> Anyone got ANY ideas for this?
>
>
> On 8 August 2013 18:46, Kathy Thompson  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and
> which is the best source template to use, for Government
> related Gazettes, that can now be found on a CD-ROM
> produced by another organisation, which is unrelated to
> either the government that produced the Gazettes, or the
> area of employment that the Gazette cover.
>
> Any suggestions?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[Kathy Thompson]

ahh thank you Jenny - yes that looks like just the right thing. I'll give
that a go. thank you


On 12 August 2013 19:49, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> On 12/08/2013 10:24, Kathy Thompson wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and which is the best
> > source template to use, for Government related Gazettes, that can now be
> > found on a CD-ROM produced by another organisation, which is unrelated
> > to either the government that produced the Gazettes, or the area of
> > employment that the Gazette cover.
>
> How about Books>Book, edited (Reprint)>Edited by an agency>CD/DVD book
> (images)?
>
> There are various alternatives you can select if that doesn't exactly
> suit.  For example, Authored rather than Edited.
>
> I don't think you need get *too* hung up on getting exactly the right
> template according to what it's titled or what the fields are named.  As
> long as you are able to include the information you think is important,
> that's what counts.  And remember, you don't *have* to enter information
> in a field just because it (the field) is there.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[Jenny M Benson]

On 12/08/2013 10:24, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and which is the best
> source template to use, for Government related Gazettes, that can now be
> found on a CD-ROM produced by another organisation, which is unrelated
> to either the government that produced the Gazettes, or the area of
> employment that the Gazette cover.

How about Books>Book, edited (Reprint)>Edited by an agency>CD/DVD book
(images)?

There are various alternatives you can select if that doesn't exactly
suit.  For example, Authored rather than Edited.

I don't think you need get *too* hung up on getting exactly the right
template according to what it's titled or what the fields are named.  As
long as you are able to include the information you think is important,
that's what counts.  And remember, you don't *have* to enter information
in a field just because it (the field) is there.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] File ID numbers

[Kathy Thompson]

Thanks Marie,
After looking at that site, I think I'll stick with my own method - I'd get
too confused trying to merge the two of them


On 8 August 2013 22:49,  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Take a look at the Clooz page http://clooz.com/
>
> I'm off to a volunteer job and will give you more detail when I get back.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL*
> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.*
> ---
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[LegacyUG] Re: Creating Sources for old printed Gazettes that are now on CD-ROM

[Kathy Thompson]

Anyone got ANY ideas for this?


On 8 August 2013 18:46, Kathy Thompson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to correctly source, and which is the best
> source template to use, for Government related Gazettes, that can now be
> found on a CD-ROM produced by another organisation, which is unrelated to
> either the government that produced the Gazettes, or the area of employment
> that the Gazette cover.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Yet to added Template

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/08/2013 22:39, Fred Lindsay wrote:
>
> The 1921 Canadian Census has finally been released and is available for
> viewing on-line.  Source Writer cannot be used to record this data
> because the template is not in the Legacy program.  I am concerned about
> using Basic Source because of a statement in the Help File that says "
> If you always want to use the old system, go to *Options* > *Customize*
>  > *Sources* and select *Basic System*. "
> I do not want to 'always use' the old system but would like to use it to
> get this 1921 data in my Family File.
> Any suggestions as to how to get around this issue?

You don't need to change your choice in Options if you only want to add
one Source in Basic style.

When you click on Add Source, the first option in the list on the left
is "*Add a Basic Style Source" and clicking on that takes you straight
into the Basic Source screen, rather than through all the selections for
a SW template.

--
Jenny M Benson



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