Re: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.

2014-03-06 Thread Bryan Pratt
To my immediate responder, I think you miss the point I was making. We are 
buying a professional product. The penultimate update to my mind , as I said, 
was un-professional. I made no reference to programmers being responsive or 
otherwise. I only referred to the penultimate update, which I note has been 
quickly corrected.

This group is about Legacy and its use and a rightful place to express opinions 
on the product.



Your quote:
“ I would hate to see this particular thread digress into something negative 
and contrary to the purposes of this group.” - I wonder what the previous 
correspondence on all and any topics in this group have actually been about 
then.

If they are  “complaints” where else might one direct them to the assistance of 
all. Surely this group is the right forum, most of whose members don’t seem to 
be so precious.




Bryan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.

2014-03-06 Thread Ron Bernier
The proper place to air your complaints would be to use the support system
- not the user group.  It isn't a matter of being precious, we just don't
need to hear or share your complaining.

Ron Bernier



On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Bryan Pratt brya...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

 To my immediate responder, I think you miss the point I was making. We are
 buying a professional product. The penultimate update to my mind , as I
 said, was un-professional. I made no reference to programmers being
 responsive or otherwise. I only referred to the penultimate update, which I
 note has been quickly corrected.
 This group is about Legacy and its use and a rightful place to express
 opinions on the product.
 Your quote:
  I would hate to see this particular thread digress into something
 negative and contrary to the purposes of this group. - I wonder what the
 previous correspondence on all and any topics in this group have actually
 been about then.
 If they are  complaints where else might one direct them to the
 assistance of all. Surely this group is the right forum, most of whose
 members don't seem to be so precious.

 Bryan

 Sent from Windows Mail




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Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation

2014-03-06 Thread Ron Taylor
Thanks Cathy...I tested that with a download to new file from Family Search 
Family Tree and it looks like the User-Defaults were applied.  It may indeed 
help with new files but does not help with a change to a customization in one 
database that the user may expect will be effective in all the databases.
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:37 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ron,

This is already there for a new file (that's not a newly converted
file but File  New File) provided you have saved user defaults.

From the Help:

Whenever you start a new family file, Legacy looks to see if you have
saved any user-default family file settings.  Any that are found are
saved in the new family file.  If there are no user-defaults, the
Legacy-defaults are used.

Cathy

  At 06:48 AM 6/03/2014, you wrote:
As I said, the current version 8.0.0.412 can Save ALL current
settings as User-Defaults and then in the other databases Reset to
User-Defaults.  What I was proposing is a method that could
automatically apply the Reset to User-Defaults when a new database
is opened.  But also a way to assure that all databases get the
latest User-Defaults should they be adjusted from time to
time...only if the user wishes that to happen.  If the user wants
each database to have different (ff) settings, that is also possible
with the method that I outlined.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:00 AM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:
MARVELOUS IDEA! Please make a suggestion that they do this ASAP!

For the many of us who need to produce reports now and are stuck
using Legacy 7.5 because we can get what we want today, it would
REALLY encourage us to start the learning curve on Legacy 8. As it
is now, we would have to keep both a Legacy 7.5 and a Legacy 8 fdb.
Big deterrent!

If there were a way to set the user files are apply them to a new
database, I would start Legacy 8 in a heartbeat!

But why bother when I must still use Legacy 7.5, because any time I
converted my latest 7.5 fdb to Legacy 8, I would have to go through
the onerous process of settings all my user settings! How many hours
are there in YOUR day?


CE


  From: emjay...@gmail.com
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
  Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:39:03 +0200
 
  On 05 Mar 2014 16:18, Ron Taylor wrote:
 
   I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff)
 settings do make
   sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy
 assumes that Reset to
   Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the
 first time in
   Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has
 been opened,
   the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point
 forward. A
   simple question Would you like to apply User-Default
 customization settings to
   this database? might be asked when a database is opened the
 first time in
   version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is
 started. That way,
   the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional
 in every database
   that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the
 (gbl) settings
   will be used in every database for the user.
 
  The problem here is that the first time a NEW file opened, there are no
  user-defined FF settings for the file. You'd need to be able to
 save the FF
  settings from a file as a named set that can then be applied to a
 new file - NOT
  AN EXISTING FILE!
 
  This way, you could have multiple FF sets to select from when a
 new file is created.
 
  --
  Regards,
  Mike Fry
  Johannesburg (g)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.

2014-03-06 Thread JV Leavitt
I wondered what the others in the group would say to your first post.  I
thought it was funny that you would propose that we vote with our feet,
and wondered where you would walk to find a better program.  There isn't
one on this planet. :-)

Joseph Leavitt


On 3/5/2014 11:58 PM, Bryan Pratt wrote:
 To my immediate responder, I think you miss the point I was making. We
 are buying a professional product. The penultimate update to my mind ,
 as I said, was un-professional. I made no reference to programmers
 being responsive or otherwise. I only referred to the penultimate
 update, which I note has been quickly corrected.
 This group is about Legacy and its use and a rightful place to express
 opinions on the product.
 Your quote:
 “ I would hate to see this particular thread digress into something
 negative and contrary to the purposes of this group.” - I wonder what
 the previous correspondence on all and any topics in this group have
 actually been about then.
 If they are  “complaints” where else might one direct them to the
 assistance of all. Surely this group is the right forum, most of whose
 members don’t seem to be so precious.

 Bryan

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RE: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.

2014-03-06 Thread David Abernathy
No program is perfect it just gets back to the OLD Question?
What is Better a Ford or a Chevy?
The one you had first and Legacy is NOT my first family tree program that I 
have used.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 6:56 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.

I wondered what the others in the group would say to your first post.  I 
thought it was funny that you would propose that we vote with our feet, and 
wondered where you would walk to find a better program.  There isn't one on 
this planet. :-)

Joseph Leavitt


On 3/5/2014 11:58 PM, Bryan Pratt wrote:
 To my immediate responder, I think you miss the point I was making. We
 are buying a professional product. The penultimate update to my mind ,
 as I said, was un-professional. I made no reference to programmers
 being responsive or otherwise. I only referred to the penultimate
 update, which I note has been quickly corrected.
 This group is about Legacy and its use and a rightful place to express
 opinions on the product.
 Your quote:
 “ I would hate to see this particular thread digress into something
 negative and contrary to the purposes of this group.” - I wonder
 what the previous correspondence on all and any topics in this group
 have actually been about then.
 If they are  “complaints” where else might one direct them to the
 assistance of all. Surely this group is the right forum, most of whose
 members don’t seem to be so precious.

 Bryan

 Sent from Windows Mail








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[LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Barb Weed
Hello, has any one noticed that up date 8.0.0.414 has messed up the chronology 
report??  When I click on the chronology tab I get the chronology for a 
different person, not the person I should get.  I did a maintenance on my file 
and that did not change the wrong report.  This is not on just one person but 
on everyone that I have checked. Downloaded the up date last night and went to 
bed hoping that a restart would help but it didn't. Please help.

Barb W



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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Sherry/Support
It's working fine for me.  Back up the Family File (File  Backup File)
then run File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Barb Weed bweed66...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello, has any one noticed that up date 8.0.0.414 has messed up the
 chronology report??  When I click on the chronology tab I get the
 chronology for a different person, not the person I should get.  I did a
 maintenance on my file and that did not change the wrong report.  This is
 not on just one person but on everyone that I have checked. Downloaded the
 up date last night and went to bed hoping that a restart would help but it
 didn't. Please help.
 Barb W




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Re: [LegacyUG] Penultimate

2014-03-06 Thread Ron Bernier
Kathy,
Bryan Pratt was using penultimate as an adjective, not referring to the
Penultimate app.

On Thursday, March 6, 2014, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Starting this new thread because I must have missed something that sparked
 the other one.

 I haven't used penultimate but had it on my tablet until recently. I
 removed it due to non-use.  Is there now a use for it with legacy?   If
 this has been discussed recently just tell me and I can search the
 archives.

 I can't keep up with all the features but I'm sure glad to have
 them. Thanks everyone!

 Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Penultimate

2014-03-06 Thread MikeFry
On 06 Mar 2014 20:09, Ron Bernier wrote:

 Bryan Pratt was using penultimate as an adjective, not referring to the
 Penultimate app.

And he meant the previous release.

--
Regards,
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Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Penultimate

2014-03-06 Thread Kathy Meyer
Starting this new thread because I must have missed something that sparked
the other one.

I haven't used penultimate but had it on my tablet until recently. I
removed it due to non-use.  Is there now a use for it with legacy?   If
this has been discussed recently just tell me and I can search the
archives.

I can't keep up with all the features but I'm sure glad to have
them. Thanks everyone!

Kathy



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RE: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Bobby Johnson
You can add one other little dinger to the 414 update and that is my media were 
all unlinked.  However a visit to the “Relinker” quickly corrected that.  One 
plus is that it did not replace my iSearch folder as did 412.

Bobby



From: Barb Weed [mailto:bweed66...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report



Hello, has any one noticed that up date 8.0.0.414 has messed up the chronology 
report??  When I click on the chronology tab I get the chronology for a 
different person, not the person I should get.  I did a maintenance on my file 
and that did not change the wrong report.  This is not on just one person but 
on everyone that I have checked. Downloaded the up date last night and went to 
bed hoping that a restart would help but it didn't. Please help.

Barb W




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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Barb Weed
Sherry,  I did the maintance/check repair again.  Now when I click on 
chronology (dosen't matter who is selected) I get the chronology for Elizabeth 
Reynolds.  Elizabeth is from the sample file that I used to check this out for 
one of the programers.  Futher more this Elizabeth Reynolds is not in my 
database.





On Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:55 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

It's working fine for me.  Back up the Family File (File  Backup File) then 
run File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Barb Weed bweed66...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello, has any one noticed that up date 8.0.0.414 has messed up the chronology 
report??  When I click on the chronology tab I get the chronology for a 
different person, not the person I should get.  I did a maintenance on my file 
and that did not change the wrong report.  This is not on just one person but 
on everyone that I have checked. Downloaded the up date last night and went to 
bed hoping that a restart would help but it didn't. Please help.

Barb W



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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Sherry/Support
I've been in and out of the Chronology all day starting with different
people and the report is always fine.

 I don't know what can be going on with your file You could try
reinstalling Legacy and if that doesn't help, you probably should contact
Support.

I have sometimes seen a delay when switching files. The data from the old
file can hang around a couple of seconds and sometimes a delay when going
to another tab.

The other question would be what do you have running in the background?
Could that be slowing Legacy?

When was the last time you restarted your computer?



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Barb Weed bweed66...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Sherry,  I did the maintance/check repair again.  Now when I click on
 chronology (dosen't matter who is selected) I get the chronology for
 Elizabeth Reynolds.  Elizabeth is from the sample file that I used to check
 this out for one of the programers.  Futher more this Elizabeth Reynolds is
 not in my database.



   On Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:55 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
  It's working fine for me.  Back up the Family File (File  Backup File)
 then run File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree




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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Sherry/Support
Again, I didn't have that problem - all my media is still linked after
updating this morning.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 You can add one other little dinger to the 414 update and that is my media
 were all unlinked.  However a visit to the Relinker quickly corrected
 that.  One plus is that it did not replace my iSearch folder as did 412.

 Bobby






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Re: [LegacyUG] Penultimate

2014-03-06 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Thanks Ron,
He said he paid extra so I wondered too if he paid for something more than
I did for the deluxe which is the least I could Pay.







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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Brian/Support
It looks like your chronology tab is locked on one person although I do
not know why. I tried changing to three different people in the Sample
File (I did this in Family View). When I clicked on the Chronology Tab
the screen showed the correct chronology for those three people. I then
changed to another file, which opened in Family View since that is my
preferred view, when I clicked on the chron tab the view was the
chronology of the person in the new file.

Just in case it was the Chronology Report instead of the Chronology View
I also used the Options  Report button for two different people and a
report for the currently selected person was created each time.

Here is some drastic surgery to try:
1. close Legacy
2. Use Windows Explorer to open the Legacy Family Tree\_AppData folder
in your My Documents
3. Delete the file ChronFile.rtf you will find in that folder
4. Go to the usr folder and delete the Chron.usr file

Restart Legacy

Brian
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On 06/03/2014 1:45 PM, Barb Weed wrote:
 Sherry,  I did the maintenance/check repair again.  Now when I click on
 chronology (doesn't matter who is selected) I get the chronology for
 Elizabeth Reynolds.  Elizabeth is from the sample file that I used to
 check this out for one of the programmers.  Further more this Elizabeth
 Reynolds is not in my database.



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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Barb Weed
Sherry, Jerimie from support suggested that I delete the chron.usr file and 
restart Legacy 8 and try to duplicate the problem on the sample file.  Did that 
and the sample file worked fine so I tried on my file and all is now well.  
Thank you all.  Legacy people are so responsive and reliable.
Barb W





On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:16 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

It looks like your chronology tab is locked on one person although I do
not know why. I tried changing to three different people in the Sample
File (I did this in Family View). When I clicked on the Chronology Tab
the screen showed the correct chronology for those three people. I then
changed to another file, which opened in Family View since that is my
preferred view, when I clicked on the chron tab the view was the
chronology of the person in the new file.

Just in case it was the Chronology Report instead of the Chronology View
I also used the Options  Report button for two different people and a
report for the currently selected person was created each time.

Here is some drastic surgery to try:
1. close Legacy
2. Use Windows Explorer to open the Legacy Family Tree\_AppData folder
in your My Documents
3. Delete the file ChronFile.rtf you will find in that folder
4. Go to the usr folder and delete the Chron.usr file

Restart Legacy

Brian
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On 06/03/2014 1:45 PM, Barb Weed wrote:
 Sherry,  I did the maintenance/check repair again.  Now when I click on
 chronology (doesn't matter who is selected) I get the chronology for
 Elizabeth Reynolds.  Elizabeth is from the sample file that I used to
 check this out for one of the programmers.  Further more this Elizabeth
 Reynolds is not in my database.



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RE: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Michele/Support
It is working fine for me too.  I checked about 10 people and I flipped back 
and forth between all of the tabs.





Michele

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From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:56 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report



It's working fine for me.  Back up the Family File (File  Backup File) then 
run File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair.




Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Barb Weed bweed66...@yahoo.com 
mailto:bweed66...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Hello, has any one noticed that up date 8.0.0.414 has messed up the chronology 
report??  When I click on the chronology tab I get the chronology for a 
different person, not the person I should get.  I did a maintenance on my file 
and that did not change the wrong report.  This is not on just one person but 
on everyone that I have checked. Downloaded the up date last night and went to 
bed hoping that a restart would help but it didn't. Please help.

Barb W





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Re: [LegacyUG] update 8.0.0.414 messes up chronology report

2014-03-06 Thread Lloyd Hite
On 3/6/2014 1:19 PM, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 You can add one other little dinger to the 414 update and that is my
 media were all unlinked.  However a visit to the “Relinker” quickly
 corrected that.  One plus is that it did not replace my iSearch folder
 as did 412.

 Bobby

It did not unlink the media in my database.

Lloyd



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[LegacyUG] problem with Legacy 8, build 412 and up

2014-03-06 Thread Chuck Sechler
I believe that since I updated to build 412 I have started seeing Children in 
the Family file listed with bolded names. I have been all through option 3.8 in 
the customization to no avail. I set Use + at the end of name to indicate 
spouses and continued lines. the other 3.8 options are unchecked, which can 
cause bolding. However, some of the names in the Children lists still come out 
bolded, with no seeming rhyme or reason as to why they do.

I have wiped out version 8 and reinstalled , to no avail. I have tried 
resetting options to Legacy default, to no avail. I do not believe this was 
occurring before build 412. Any ideas? Thanks. Chuck.


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Re: [LegacyUG] problem with Legacy 8, build 412 and up

2014-03-06 Thread Ron Taylor
Chuck,
Running 8.0.0.414
I have the second radio button in 3.8 set and the second box checked.  Only 
names bolded are those that should be.



On Thursday, March 6, 2014 5:19 PM, Chuck Sechler csech...@att.net wrote:

I believe that since I updated to build 412 I have started seeing Children
in the Family file listed with bolded names. I have been all through option 3.8
in the customization to no avail. I set Use + at the end of name to indicate
spouses and continued lines. the other 3.8 options are unchecked, which can
cause bolding. However, some of the names in the Children lists still come out
bolded, with no seeming rhyme or reason as to why they do.
 
I have wiped out version 8 and reinstalled , to no avail. I have tried
resetting options to Legacy default, to no avail. I do not believe this was
occurring before build 412. Any ideas? Thanks. Chuck.

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