Re: [LegacyUG] Encrypting cloud storage

[Lucy McDonald Shore]

Hi David

I haven't had any issues...usually. If there's a problem all I do is copy
the file to another directory which usually removes the encryption (yes, I
use Dropbox for my Legacy backup files). I transfer files between my
desktop, a laptop (recently replaced with no issues), a tablet, and my cell
phone. But, as I said, this is with Dropbox. I don't know how well it would
work with IDrive...

Lucy

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:12 PM, David Cripps 
wrote:

>   Hello Lucy,
>
>
>  Monday, November 10, 2014, 2:55:00 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>
> > I use Cloudfogger to encrypt my dropbox files...I haven't had any issues
> to date...
>
> I've looked, but not sure if this is really what I want.
>
> I  store  my Legacy data & picture files in a sub-folder of the Google
> Drive directory, so the syncing works happily in the background.
> In  other words within Legacy itself (Locations 6.1 & 6.2) I point the
> program  to run the data files from the Google Drive folder & it works
> just fine.
>
> If  I  encrypt  those  data  files  they're not going to be usable in
> Legacy though are they ?
>
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Steve Pick]

Thanks Michelle. Don't think I have ever looked at this. However, I am not
sure I like it. I just clicked in the marriage event of one at random to
look at the data. Never changed anything but it says the data was modified
as of the time I looked. This doesn't seem very good idea. If I had
modified any of the data fine,.. but I didn't.

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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Yes, in 7.5 the date at the bottom right corner is the modified date.  If
> you click the date you will get a box that pops up with more information.
>
>
>
> Michele
>
> Technical Support
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>
>
> *From:* Steve Pick [mailto:st...@trycom.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:49 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454
>
>
>
> Michele, we live and learn but was the feature available in 7.5. There is
> a date in 7.5 alongside the H M W but I assume that is the date of the last
> edit for the person who is highlighted. I can't say I have noticed this in
> all the years I have been using Legacy.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Encrypting cloud storage

[David Cripps]

  Hello Lucy,


 Monday, November 10, 2014, 2:55:00 PM, you wrote:



> I use Cloudfogger to encrypt my dropbox files...I haven't had any issues to 
> date...

I've looked, but not sure if this is really what I want.

I  store  my Legacy data & picture files in a sub-folder of the Google
Drive directory, so the syncing works happily in the background.
In  other words within Legacy itself (Locations 6.1 & 6.2) I point the
program  to run the data files from the Google Drive folder & it works
just fine.

If  I  encrypt  those  data  files  they're not going to be usable in
Legacy though are they ?


Cheers
Dave











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Re: [LegacyUG] Encrypting cloud storage

[Lucy McDonald Shore]

Hi David

I use Cloudfogger to encrypt my dropbox files...I haven't had any issues to
date...

Lucy

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 9:43 PM, David Cripps  wrote:

> I'm happily using Google Drive to sync all my Legacy data and pictures
> &  videos,  and  equally  I  guess this question applies to those folk
> using Dropbox as well.
>
> Does anyone on this List use Encryption for more security on the Cloud
> services ?  What are their experiences of doing so ?
>
> I'm  only  pondering this question as my son has just popped around to
> finalise  his  resume  and  with  his  permission I now keep a copy in
> Legacy under an event.
> Over  a  coffee  I  started  wondering about the advisability of doing
> this, then of course thought about the possibilities of encryption.
>
> I  guess  I  might be a tad pedantic  as not every file needs securing
> and  anyway if I was serious about something in particular I could use
> the password facility with 7Zip.
>
> Thought I'd throw the question out there and see the responses.
>
>
> Cheers
> David in Tasmania
>
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Encrypting cloud storage

[David Cripps]

I'm happily using Google Drive to sync all my Legacy data and pictures
&  videos,  and  equally  I  guess this question applies to those folk
using Dropbox as well.

Does anyone on this List use Encryption for more security on the Cloud
services ?  What are their experiences of doing so ?

I'm  only  pondering this question as my son has just popped around to
finalise  his  resume  and  with  his  permission I now keep a copy in
Legacy under an event.
Over  a  coffee  I  started  wondering about the advisability of doing
this, then of course thought about the possibilities of encryption.

I  guess  I  might be a tad pedantic  as not every file needs securing
and  anyway if I was serious about something in particular I could use
the password facility with 7Zip.

Thought I'd throw the question out there and see the responses.


Cheers
David in Tasmania






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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Wm Voss]

It's been there since v5

Wm Voss

On 09-Nov-14 5:01 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Yes, in 7.5 the date at the bottom right corner is the modified
> date.  If you click the date you will get a box that pops up with
> more information.
>
> Michele
>
> Technical Support
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com 
>
> *From:*Steve Pick [mailto:st...@trycom.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:49 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454
>
> Michele, we live and learn but was the feature available in 7.5. There
> is a date in 7.5 alongside the H M W but I assume that is the date of
> the last edit for the person who is highlighted. I can't say I have
> noticed this in all the years I have been using Legacy.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Howlanddavisii]

Michele:

You said to the right of the M:1 box.  I have the W:1 box to the immediate 
right; I did find the information to the right of that.

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: Michele/Support 
To: legacyusergroup 
Sent: Sun, Nov 9, 2014 1:58 pm
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454


Lloyd,
Hover your mouse over the extreme bottom right corner of the screen, just to the
right of the M:1 box and you will see a colored square appear.  Click that
square.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

How do I find the Date Last Edited or Last Edited Date in Legacy? I tried the
History List but unsure it is the same.

Lloyd




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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Michele/Support]

Steve,

Yes, in 7.5 the date at the bottom right corner is the modified date.  If you 
click the date you will get a box that pops up with more information.



Michele

Technical Support

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

  www.legacyfamilytree.com



From: Steve Pick [mailto:st...@trycom.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454



Michele, we live and learn but was the feature available in 7.5. There is a 
date in 7.5 alongside the H M W but I assume that is the date of the last edit 
for the person who is highlighted. I can't say I have noticed this in all the 
years I have been using Legacy.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Steve Pick]

Michele, we live and learn but was the feature available in 7.5. There is a
date in 7.5 alongside the H M W but I assume that is the date of the last
edit for the person who is highlighted. I can't say I have noticed this in
all the years I have been using Legacy.

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> You are very welcome :)
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
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>
> Thank you very much, Michele. I appreciate it.
>
> Lloyd
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report

[Paula Ryburn]

Glenn,  I just tried the FGS for a family where the husband and wife each had 
events, the marriage had events, and both of their two children had events.  
All of the events printed out just fine, in the numbered, non-bulleted & 
combined versions of the Event Sentence Formatting, as well as the List Style 
Formatting (which is now the same as the numbered).  Do you have all three 
types of events checked on the Report Options > Include tab?  Sounds like that 
might be the problem.  Good luck!  --Paula  (Richmond, Texas)



 From: Glenn Kinkade 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:50 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report



I have Legacy Family Tree Version 8.0.0 454 installed.  I am trying to print a 
Family Group Sheet for a family.  The husband has 9 events, the wife has 5 
events, one child has 3 events, and one child has 4 events.  On the Family 
Group Report option under the Include Tab I have check Events for husband and 
wife, marriage, and children. Under the Format Tab-Event Narrative Format i 
have tried both Event Sentence Formatting and List Style Formatting.  The 
events are listed for the children but not for the husband and wife when I use 
Event Narrative Format and when I use Event Sentence Formatting.  I checked the 
Options - Customize and did not find anything that looked like it would solve 
the problem.

Any ideas?  Help.

Glenn Kinkade
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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors

[Paula Ryburn]

Hey, Ron.  I finally found some time to try out your procedure for finding 
mtDNA matches for myself.
I have a very short "longest" maternal line, so it was easy to verify results.  
My mother & grandmother had no sisters, but my great-grandmother had two 
sisters.  The sisters show in the final results, but their daughters do not.  I 
can see that an intersection of my (or my daughter's) ancestors and Abigail 
Whipple's descendents wouldn't include the sisters' daughters, but if I were 
looking to see who else was alive that might be carrying the same mtDNA as 
myself, I would want to include these daughters, and their daughters, and so 
on.  Any thoughts on how I could tweak the procedure?  Not urgent for me, just 
wondering.
Thanks,

--Paula in Texas








>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ron Ferguson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jessica,
>>>
>>> Please see http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/Y-DNA_Search.php
>>>
>>> Although this was written and tested for Legacy V7.5, I see no reason why
>>> it will not work in V8.0. Select include siblings from the options.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source

[Brian/Support]

I use a SourceWriter style source using the Message broads/forum template.
Name Facebook
Name of Forum Facebook
Type of Forum Social Network
URL www.Facebook.com

Using that template the details for each citation include:
Author Last Name
Author Given names
Author Suffix
Title: If it is a status update I use the intro to the post for data
from info pages such as About I use the name of the page.
Date: The date of the post for status updates, I usually leave this
blank for about info unless that includes a date.
Date Access: self explanatory

I will also usually use copy and paste from Facebook to complete the
Text of the source.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 09/11/2014 3:01 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> I have created a Basic Source:
>
> Source List Name: Website - Facebook.com
> Type: Web Site
> Title: www.facebook.com
>
> All other fields are blank.
>
> When I use this source, I put the pertinent information about the post
> concerned in the Source Detail, ie the name of the person under whose
> account the post was made (their real name as well as their Facebook
> name, if they're different), the date of the post, when I read it
> ("retrieved"). Depending on the situation, I often also put a copy of
> the post itself in the Text field.
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> Wendy
>
> Barbara Schwarting said the following on 10/11/2014 00:28:
>> How are listers handling facebook as a source for births, deaths, and
>> etc?  During the past month I’ve received notification of two deaths
>> and two births through facebook..  The births had pictures from the
>> hospital.
>> I would appreciate your thoughts regarding the use of these and how
>> you document and use the photos.
>> Barb
>
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[LegacyUG] Yikes! new problem with pedigree-style webpages in latest build of Legacy 8

[Kirsty M. Haining]

I’ve been working very hard to do a major update on my website, which uses 
Pedigree-style webpages generated by Legacy 8.  Unfortunately, since I last 
published webpages in April, a new bug has appeared.  I don’t know which build 
created the problem, but now living people show up with all their details in 
full view, regardless of checking the privacy options to hide them.  It didn’t 
used to have this problem in the pedigree-style webpages (although it was a bit 
buggy in some of the other styles of webpage output).  And, obviously, this 
will not do.



I need a fix, quickly.  My guess is that probably the easiest fix will be to go 
back to an earlier build of Legacy 8, if I can figure out how to do that.



Thanks,

Kirsty Haining

Seattle, Washington

J



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Re: [LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source

[Wendy Howard]

I have created a Basic Source:

Source List Name: Website - Facebook.com
Type: Web Site
Title: www.facebook.com

All other fields are blank.

When I use this source, I put the pertinent information about the post
concerned in the Source Detail, ie the name of the person under whose
account the post was made (their real name as well as their Facebook
name, if they're different), the date of the post, when I read it
("retrieved"). Depending on the situation, I often also put a copy of
the post itself in the Text field.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Barbara Schwarting said the following on 10/11/2014 00:28:
> How are listers handling facebook as a source for births, deaths, and
> etc?  During the past month I’ve received notification of two deaths
> and two births through facebook..  The births had pictures from the
> hospital.
> I would appreciate your thoughts regarding the use of these and how
> you document and use the photos.
> Barb



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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Michele/Support]

You are very welcome :)

Michele
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Thank you very much, Michele. I appreciate it.

Lloyd






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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[LHite31]

On 11/9/2014 1:57 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
> Lloyd,
> Hover your mouse over the extreme bottom right corner of the screen, just to 
> the right of the M:1 box and you will see a colored square appear.  Click 
> that square.
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com

Thank you very much, Michele. I appreciate it.

Lloyd



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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[Michele/Support]

Lloyd,
Hover your mouse over the extreme bottom right corner of the screen, just to 
the right of the M:1 box and you will see a colored square appear.  Click that 
square.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

How do I find the Date Last Edited or Last Edited Date in Legacy? I tried the 
History List but unsure it is the same.

Lloyd




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[LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

[LHite31]

How do I find the Date Last Edited or Last Edited Date in Legacy? I
tried the History List but unsure it is the same.

Lloyd



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RE: [LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source

[Michele/Support]

Barb,

I wouldn’t use Facebook as a source per se.  I would use the PERSON that owns 
the Facebook page as the source.  I would either use the personal knowledge 
template or maybe the interview template.  In the detail comments I would write 
HOW the person knows the birth or death to be true.  If it is the mother or 
father of the baby posting then it is a no brainer.  “John is Megan’s father 
and was present at the birth.”If it is a death, “Mary is the Josephine’s 
daughter and was present at the hospital when she died.”



As far the as the photos go, make sure you get permission to download and use 
them in your file. I use the photo notes area for this information.   “Photo by 
David Anderson, used with permission.”



Michele

Technical Support

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

www.legacyfamilytree.com 



From: Barbara Schwarting [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:29 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source



How are listers handling facebook as a source for births, deaths, and etc?  
During the past month I’ve received notification of two deaths and two births 
through facebook..  The births had pictures from the hospital. 



I would appreciate your thoughts regarding the use of these and how you 
document and use the photos.



Barb







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[LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source

[Barbara Schwarting]

How are listers handling facebook as a source for births, deaths, and etc?  
During the past month I’ve received notification of two deaths and two births 
through facebook..  The births had pictures from the hospital. 

I would appreciate your thoughts regarding the use of these and how you 
document and use the photos.

Barb




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Re: [LegacyUG] Rules for Entering Place Names in England and Canada

[Jenny M Benson]

On 09/11/2014 02:35, Barry Godbeer wrote:
> I have been thinking about the Location issue and have come to realize
> that there is no perfect solution. Using the terms Place in Events,
> Location in Citations and having the ability to add an Address with
> Postal Code to an Event adds to the confusion.
>
> The fact that we are recording information from a different time period
> when life was a lot simpler adds to the problem. I keep coming back to
> the fact that a fundamental fact of recording information from a time
> long ago is to record it as it was then and not to modify the details to
> fit into our current mode of doing things. Who would of thought we would
> have had postal codes and GPS's?
>
> As it relates to Census records, specifically England and Wales, I
> suggest that the Citation Details page be changed to reflect the
> information available from the Census record and not cherry pick in away
> that does not flow.
>
> My first suggestion after having completed the Source page identifying
> The National Archives as the source I would enter all the details of the
> Census into the Citation Detail window in this order.
>
> First I would identify the Census with the National Archives reference
> of PRO RG12 Piece Number 1200 Folio 30 Page 50 (eg). This is the
> information you need to identify the specific Census record.
>
> Second I would list the Location details starting with Administrative
> County, then Civil Parish, Ecclesiastical Parish, then County
> Borough,Municipal Borough or Urban District, then Ward of Municipal
> Borough or Urban Borough, then Rural District, then Parliamentary
> Borough or Division and lastly Town or village or Hamlet, all as listed
> at the top of the Census sheet. If this information is not complete it
> can be viewed on the Description of Enumeration District (ED 22 eg)
> sheet or from the present day transcriptions. Some of this information
> may not be relevant in today's thinking but it is important to record
> the information as it was then. Also be wary of transcriptions with
> mistakes!
>
> Next I would enter the Road, Street etc,and No or Name of the House.
>
> Note: Currently the information entered into the Location Details box
> does not appear in the Master Location listing.
>
> Then the person's ID with maybe relationship to Head of Household and
> marital status.
>
> All information should be recorded as shown on the Census sheet without
> any changes to spelling. Create an AKA if you wish but often there has
> been no change to the name other than the enumerator wrote down what he
> or she thought they heard.
>
> I'm sure a suitable Citation Detail template could be developed to
> satisfy the recording of the Census information in this manner. There is
> a template now so it must be possible.
>
Each to his/her own opinion of course, but I see no reason at all for
including all that location information in the Source Detail.  The
purpose of the Source Citation is to indicate where you found the
information you have included in an Event/Fact.  As long as you give the
full Census Reference  (eg PRO RG 11/2117 folio 105 page 4) and indicate
the Head of Household (or the person of interest on that page) any
further information is a bonus but not absolutely essential.

The existing SourceWriter templates (which give an output which accords
with the advice of Elizabeth Shown Mills) additionally gives fields for
the Civil Parish and County (Sherborne, Dorset in the example I quote)
and for the nature of the Source (digital images, for example) and the
Website/Repository where you accessed the record.

If you wish to record every single detail of the Census Sheet, as you
indicate, this can already be done in the Source Text field.  You also
have the option to record the full address with house number, street
name etc in either the Location field or the Event Address fields.  I do
not see that "recording information from a different time period
when life was a lot simpler adds to the problem".  If someone's address
is recorded in the Census as being "1 High Street, Sometown, Cumberland"
one simply records that, even if  number 1 was later renumbered to 4A,
High Street was renamed Town Road and Sometown is now in the new county
of Cumbria, Cumberland no longer existing.


--
Jenny M Benson



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