Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[Chick Lewis]

It should be mentioned that SourceWriter sources are converted to basic in
a GEDCOM.



On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> JoAnne,
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> If your Basic sources are well formatted there is no point in converting
> them to SourceWriter sources.
> If they aren't, then the SourceWriter Templates can help you create a
> better source.
>
> I've converted some and not others and still have some to go.  That's
> because when I was first sourcing 15 or so years ago, I didn't do it very
> well for some sources as I didn't fully understand what I was looking at.
>
> Cathy
>
> JoAnne Flynn wrote:
>
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> Thanks for you clarification on SourceWriter&  Clipboard.
>
> So. is there any reason too - or value in - me re-entering sources
> that I originally entered using the Basic System and using SourceWriter
> instead??
>
> So far, I'm just thinking the value of  Source writer is the templates
> provided
>
> What do you think???
> JoAnne
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> * On Feb 6, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Jenny M Benson >  wrote: *In the past, I was just using the Basic
> System. I have 15-20 sources entered using that system and have connected
> them to people in my Tree. **Can "Basic System" sources be used on the
> clipboard ?* Yes, they can.  Exactly the same as using SW sources. * * *If
> I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to the
> Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree later ??
> . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific person in my
> Tree.* No, you can set them up and then wander off for as long as you like
> before going back and attaching the Source to the relevant peopl/events. *
> * *In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
> afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and info
>  and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly * Yes! -- Jenny M Benson*
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Sherry]

I've seen files with over a million individuals and a smaller file (fdb)
size and one with over 500,000 individuals pushing the 2 GB limit.

Besides individuals, notes, sources, events, etc all need to be taken into
account when determining what the file size is going to end up being.

But the more people and related data, the slower the file will run. I spent
several hours trying to do a file conversion of a super large file with
lots of sources.

Good thing media files aren't embedded!

Sherry


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:53 PM, kwnbmn  wrote:

> I have 76 and no problem
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> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Henry T. Peterson Jr." 
> Date: 2/6/17 10:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit
>
> *It is pretty big… I am still using Legacy and have over 505,000*
>
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> *Henry*
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Amy
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 8:19 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Data limit
>
>
>
> Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got an
> overflow message and can't open the name list, nor can she get out of
> Legacy without using the Task Manager.  She has contacted the help desk.  I
> was just looking for other opinions.
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Sherry]

I have seen strange problems occur with files that get too big - anything
much over 1.5 - 1.75 GB.  It bogs down when running check/repair and other
tools.

Yes, 2 GB is the Access limit.

Sherry


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:

> Hi Sherry,
>
>
>
> I’m well over the 1GB limit and operating fine.  Isn’t Legacy written
> using Access?  I believe it is a limitation of Access which is 2 GB (and
> you need some overhead!).  I have heard that this 2GB limit can be overcome
> using SQL Server.  If anyone has information on this I would love to hear
> about it.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Sherry]

Then they changed it. Ken was recommending 1 GB in the past.

Sherry

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> The file size limit is 2 GB.
>
> See the Help file
> Help - Help Index then in the Right Pane
> Program Capacities
>
> *General Capacities*
>
> Individuals and Families File size to 2 billion characters (2 gigabytes)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[kwnbmn]

I have 76 and no problem


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
 Original message From: "Henry T. Peterson Jr." 
 Date: 2/6/17  10:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Legacy User Group' 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit 
It is pretty big… I am still using Legacy and have over 505,000 Henry  From: 
LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 8:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Data limit Is there a limit to the number of names in 
Legacy?  My mother got an overflow message and can't open the name list, nor 
can she get out of Legacy without using the Task Manager.  She has contacted 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

It is pretty big… I am still using Legacy and have over 505,000

 

Henry

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 8:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Data limit

 

Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got an overflow 
message and can't open the name list, nor can she get out of Legacy without 
using the Task Manager.  She has contacted the help desk.  I was just looking 
for other opinions.

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Steve.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Hayes
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:07 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

On 6 Feb 2017 at 18:37, Bob Austen wrote:

> I´m well over the 1GB limit and operating fine.  Isn´t Legacy written
> using Access?  I believe it is a limitation of Access which is 2 GB (and
you
> need some overhead!).  I have heard that this 2GB limit can be overcome
using
> SQL Server.  If anyone has information on this I would love to hear about
it. 

The Rootsmagic program keeps its data in an SQLite database. If you are 
approaching the Legacy/Access data limit you might want to look at that, but

it would be best not to discuss it here, as this forum is for Legacy. 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Steve Hayes]

On 6 Feb 2017 at 18:37, Bob Austen wrote:

> I´m well over the 1GB limit and operating fine.  Isn´t Legacy written
> using Access?  I believe it is a limitation of Access which is 2 GB (and you
> need some overhead!).  I have heard that this 2GB limit can be overcome using
> SQL Server.  If anyone has information on this I would love to hear about it. 

The Rootsmagic program keeps its data in an SQLite database. If you are 
approaching the Legacy/Access data limit you might want to look at that, but 
it would be best not to discuss it here, as this forum is for Legacy. 


-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Bob Austen]

Hi Sherry,

 

I’m well over the 1GB limit and operating fine.  Isn’t Legacy written using 
Access?  I believe it is a limitation of Access which is 2 GB (and you need 
some overhead!).  I have heard that this 2GB limit can be overcome using SQL 
Server.  If anyone has information on this I would love to hear about it. 

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 6:23 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

 

No limit on number of individuals, but there is a file size limit of 1 GB. The 
Overflow error is something that you need to contact support about. It could be 
due to any number of issues.

Sherry

 

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Amy  wrote:

Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got an overflow 
message and can't open the name list, nor can she get out of Legacy without 
using the Task Manager.  She has contacted the help desk.  I was just looking 
for other opinions.

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Cathy Pinner]

The file size limit is 2 GB.

See the Help file
Help - Help Index then in the Right Pane
Program Capacities

*General Capacities*

Individuals and Families File size to 2 billion characters (2 gigabytes)



Sherry 
Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:23 AM
No limit on number of individuals, but there is a file size limit of 1 
GB. The Overflow error is something that you need to contact support 
about. It could be due to any number of issues.


Sherry


Amy 
Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:18 AM

Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got an 
overflow message and can't open the name list, nor can she get out of 
Legacy without using the Task Manager.  She has contacted the help 
desk.  I was just looking for other opinions.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Data limit

[Sherry]

No limit on number of individuals, but there is a file size limit of 1 GB.
The Overflow error is something that you need to contact support about. It
could be due to any number of issues.

Sherry

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Amy  wrote:

> Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got an
> overflow message and can't open the name list, nor can she get out of
> Legacy without using the Task Manager.  She has contacted the help desk.  I
> was just looking for other opinions.
>
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[LegacyUG] Data limit

[Amy]

  
  
Is there a limit to the number of names in Legacy?  My mother got
  an overflow message and can't open the name list, nor can she get
  out of Legacy without using the Task Manager.  She has contacted
  the help desk.  I was just looking for other opinions.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[Cathy Pinner]

JoAnne,

If your Basic sources are well formatted there is no point in converting 
them to SourceWriter sources.
If they aren't, then the SourceWriter Templates can help you create a 
better source.


I've converted some and not others and still have some to go. That's 
because when I was first sourcing 15 or so years ago, I didn't do it 
very well for some sources as I didn't fully understand what I was 
looking at.


Cathy

JoAnne Flynn wrote:


Thanks for you clarification on SourceWriter& Clipboard.

So. is there any reason too - or value in - me re-entering sources 
that I originally entered using the Basic System and using 
SourceWriter instead??


So far, I'm just thinking the value of Source writer is the templates 
provided


What do you think???
JoAnne




On Feb 6, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:




*In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources
entered using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree.
**Can "Basic System" sources be used on the clipboard ?*


Yes, they can. Exactly the same as using SW sources.


*
*
*If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to
the Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree
later ?? . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific
person in my Tree.*


No, you can set them up and then wander off for as long as you like 
before going back and attaching the Source to the relevant peopl/events.


*
*
*In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and
info  and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly *



Yes!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[JoAnne Flynn]

Thanks for you clarification on SourceWriter & Clipboard. 

So. is there any reason too - or value in - me re-entering sources that I 
originally entered using the Basic System and using SourceWriter instead??

So far, I'm just thinking the value of  Source writer is the templates provided 

What do you think???
JoAnne


> On Feb 6, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> *In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources
>> entered using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree.
>>**Can "Basic System" sources be used on the clipboard ?*
> 
> Yes, they can.  Exactly the same as using SW sources.
>> *
>> *
>> *If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to
>> the Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree
>> later ?? . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific
>> person in my Tree.*
> 
> No, you can set them up and then wander off for as long as you like before 
> going back and attaching the Source to the relevant peopl/events.
>> *
>> *
>> *In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
>> afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and
>> info  and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly *
>> 
> Yes!
> 
> -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] I just told someone to buy Legacy

[Leon Chapman]

Legacy does not work on a Mac out of the box.

You can use Parallels or VMWare or others to run a version of Windows in a 
Virtual Machine.  Then you can install Legacy under the Windows operating 
system on a Mac.

 

I am using Parallels with Windows 10 to run Legacy on my MacBook Pro.

 

Leon Chapman

 

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Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: February 6, 2017 6:27 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] I just told someone to buy Legacy

 

They reported that legacy does not work on a MAC.   If that true and If so Is 
there a cluge?

I did not check before recommending it.  

Ian

 





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[LegacyUG] I just told someone to buy Legacy

[Ian Macaulay]

They reported that legacy does not work on a MAC.   If that true and If so
Is there a cluge?
I did not check before recommending it.

Ian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[Jenny M Benson]

*In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources
entered using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree.
**Can "Basic System" sources be used on the clipboard ?*


Yes, they can.  Exactly the same as using SW sources.

*
*
*If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to
the Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree
later ?? . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific
person in my Tree.*


No, you can set them up and then wander off for as long as you like 
before going back and attaching the Source to the relevant peopl/events.

*
*
*In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and
info  and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly *


Yes!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[Brian Kelly]

1. Any source (Basic or SourceWriter) can be copied to the source 
clipboard from a person's source list and then pasted to any other 
person or another event for the same person.


Yes you can add as many New sources as you wish without immediately 
linking them to someone. The easiest way to do this is from the "Add a 
New Source" button on anyone's source list screen or via the Master 
source list itself (View > Master Lists > Source) using the add button 
there.


I do not think you can add New sources without linking via the source 
clipboard because it wants you to add a source detail (the specific 
details for one person).


Brian Kelly

On 06-Feb-17 11:35 AM, JoAnne Flynn wrote:

*Forgive me if this is a really dumb question but I just started trying to
learn to use the Source Writer and Clipboard.*

*I need help / clarification on something  (although I have already read
the book and watched the video's !!)*

*In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources
entered using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree.
  **Can "Basic System" sources be used on the clipboard ?*

*If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to
the Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree later
?? . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific person in my
Tree.*

*In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and info
 and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly *

Thanks for your guidance
JoAnne

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[Michele/Support]

1) Yes, you can put Basic Style Sources on the Clipboard
2) Yes, you can add sources to the Master Source List without actually using 
them yet HOWEVER be careful that you don't do OPTIONS > PURGE UNUSED or you 
will lose them all AND you want to be VERY careful with FILE > FILE MAINTENANCE 
> LIST CLEANUP because there is a check box there that will remove unused 
sources.



Michele
Technical Support
Millennia Corporation
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of JoAnne Flynn
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

Forgive me if this is a really dumb question but I just started trying to learn 
to use the Source Writer and Clipboard.

I need help / clarification on something  (although I have already read the 
book and watched the video's !!)

In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources entered 
using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree. Can "Basic 
System" sources be used on the clipboard ?

If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to the 
Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree later ?? 
. or do I have to immediately add them to a specific person in my Tree.

In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and 
afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and info  
and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly 

Thanks for your guidance
JoAnne

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[LegacyUG] Help with Source Writer & Clip Board

[JoAnne Flynn]

*Forgive me if this is a really dumb question but I just started trying to
learn to use the Source Writer and Clipboard.*

*I need help / clarification on something  (although I have already read
the book and watched the video's !!)*

*In the past, I was just using the Basic System. I have 15-20 sources
entered using that system and have connected them to people in my Tree.
  **Can "Basic System" sources be used on the clipboard ?*

*If I wanted to add a "bunch" of new sources  Can I just add them to
the Master Source list and cite them to the correct people in my Tree later
?? . **or do I have to immediately add them to a specific person in my
Tree.*

*In other words, can I use the Source Writer to build my Master List and
afterwards, go back and link these sources to the correct people and info
 and use the Clipboard to do this more quickly *

Thanks for your guidance
JoAnne

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