Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Cathy Pinner]

Steve and Jennifer,

Are you wanting a list of locations or a list of people associated with 
those locations? or both?


Either way, you can get it easily.

What you need is a Location Report for Tagged Locations.

In the Master Location List
Options button
Print - Location Report
with the options you can get either a list of locations OR a list of 
locations and who and where uses them.


But first you'll want to tag the locations you want.
For an English county:
Sort your Location list from right to left.
Find the first location of interest:
eg Find: England, Cornwall
Click on the first, then right click and click on the last.
That highlights the group.
Then Options - Tag - highlighted records.
Then go to Options - Print - Location Report, choose what you want and 
do it for tagged records.


If you can't get it easily, then you need to do some work on cleaning up 
your Location List so everything is entered consistently.


Cathy


Jennifer Hardess wrote:


Thanks Steve,

You have grasped exactly what I was trying to explain & get an answer
for to solve this dilemma.

Jen H

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*From: *Steve Hayes 
*Sent: *Wednesday, 5 April 2017 2:51 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group 
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

On 4 Apr 2017 at 17:56, Trevor Carlson wrote:

> Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest
denomination
> to smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a 5th field which I
> sometimes use (Ward in a city). If I need to search for a particular
city, but
> don't know exactly where it is, I will just temporarily reverse my sort,
> search it, and then put it back after I'm done.
>
> Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a
given
> location name regardless of position, though. That would make the
re-sorting
> unnecessary.

Yes, following this thread I tried to produce a location list, and
discovered
lots of limitations.

I was sure I had produced a location list from Legacy when we visited
the UK
in 2005, and I wanted a list of places where family members had lived,
sorted, so that I would have a list of towns. Perhaps earlier versions of
Legacy could do that, or perhaps I used another program.

What I tried to do this time, and failed, was to produce a list for an
English country -- say Cornwall.

Yes, it would be possible to produce a list by searching five times and
adding to a list -- first birth, then baptism, then death, then
burial, then
marriage. I'm not sure if the search screen lets you search for marriage,
though.

So it would be marvellous if ii let you search for, and tag, any place
for
any event, with one search, and then print a list with just those.

And then print the list in the order of largest place to the smallest

The list I did manage to print was useless, because it sorted in the
order of
the number of blank spaces with commas, and it printed everything,
with no
selection.




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Jennifer Hardess 
Wednesday, 5 April 2017 1:26 PM

Thanks Steve,

You have grasped exactly what I was trying to explain & get an answer 
for to solve this dilemma.


Jen H

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*Sent: *Wednesday, 5 April 2017 2:51 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group 
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

On 4 Apr 2017 at 17:56, Trevor Carlson wrote:

> Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest 
denomination

> to smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a 5th field which I
> sometimes use (Ward in a city). If I need to search for a particular 
city, but

> don't know exactly where it is, I will just temporarily reverse my sort,
> search it, and then put it back after I'm done.
>
> Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a 
given
> location name regardless of position, though. That would make the 
re-sorting

> unnecessary.

Yes, following this thread I tried to produce a location list, and 
discovered

lots of limitations.

I was sure I had produced a location list from Legacy when we visited 
the UK

in 2005, and I wanted a list of places where family members had lived,
sorted, so that I would have a list of towns. Perhaps earlier versions of
Legacy could do that, or perhaps I used another program.

What I tried to do this time, and failed, was to 

Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Jennifer Hardess]

Thanks Steve,
You have grasped exactly what I was trying to explain & get an answer for to 
solve this dilemma.
Jen H

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From: Steve Hayes
Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 2:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

On 4 Apr 2017 at 17:56, Trevor Carlson wrote:

> Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest denomination
> to smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a 5th field which I
> sometimes use (Ward in a city). If I need to search for a particular city, but
> don't know exactly where it is, I will just temporarily reverse my sort,
> search it, and then put it back after I'm done.
>
> Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a given
> location name regardless of position, though. That would make the re-sorting
> unnecessary.

Yes, following this thread I tried to produce a location list, and discovered
lots of limitations.

I was sure I had produced a location list from Legacy when we visited the UK
in 2005, and I wanted a list of places where family members had lived,
sorted, so that I would have a list of towns. Perhaps earlier versions of
Legacy could do that, or perhaps I used another program.

What I tried to do this time, and failed, was to produce a list for an
English country -- say Cornwall.

Yes, it would be possible to produce a list by searching five times and
adding to a list -- first birth, then baptism, then death, then burial, then
marriage. I'm not sure if the search screen lets you search for marriage,
though.

So it would be marvellous if ii let you search for, and tag, any place for
any event, with one search, and then print a list with just those.

And then print the list in the order of largest place to the smallest

The list I did manage to print was useless, because it sorted in the order of
the number of blank spaces with commas, and it printed everything, with no
selection.




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Web:http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm
E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Steve Hayes]

On 4 Apr 2017 at 17:56, Trevor Carlson wrote:

> Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest denomination
> to smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a 5th field which I
> sometimes use (Ward in a city). If I need to search for a particular city, but
> don't know exactly where it is, I will just temporarily reverse my sort,
> search it, and then put it back after I'm done.
> 
> Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a given
> location name regardless of position, though. That would make the re-sorting
> unnecessary.

Yes, following this thread I tried to produce a location list, and discovered 
lots of limitations. 

I was sure I had produced a location list from Legacy when we visited the UK 
in 2005, and I wanted a list of places where family members had lived, 
sorted, so that I would have a list of towns. Perhaps earlier versions of 
Legacy could do that, or perhaps I used another program.

What I tried to do this time, and failed, was to produce a list for an 
English country -- say Cornwall.

Yes, it would be possible to produce a list by searching five times and 
adding to a list -- first birth, then baptism, then death, then burial, then 
marriage. I'm not sure if the search screen lets you search for marriage, 
though. 

So it would be marvellous if ii let you search for, and tag, any place for 
any event, with one search, and then print a list with just those. 

And then print the list in the order of largest place to the smallest

The list I did manage to print was useless, because it sorted in the order of 
the number of blank spaces with commas, and it printed everything, with no 
selection. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Cathy Pinner]

I don't use empty commas unless I truly don't know an internal location 
detail.
I include addresses in my location list so have more than 4 parts or 
just one if I only know the country.
I always sort my list from right to left and, because I'm consistent 
with the way I enter locations from smallest unit to country, all 
locations sort together whether I'm looking at country, state 
(Australia) or county (England), town or street.
It's really easy to get a list of everyone in a particular town or state 
by highlighting all the relevant locations and using Options - Show List.


I include addresses in the Location List because I don't like the way 
addresses are handled in Legacy - both the input, the display (they're 
quite hidden) and especially the output in reports. If all that changed, 
I'd reconsider.


Cathy

Trevor Carlson wrote:


Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest
denomination to smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a
5th field which I sometimes use (Ward in a city). If I need to search
for a particular city, but don't know exactly where it is, I will just
temporarily reverse my sort, search it, and then put it back after I'm
done.

Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a
given location name regardless of position, though. That would make
the re-sorting unnecessary.

Thanks,

Trevor

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Sherry
*Sent:* 4-Apr-17 8:49 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

The Master Location List doesn't do well with no leading commas. You
can't sort correctly if you select a custom sort and the
Expand/Contract Location Parts (under Options) won't work correctly.

Sherry

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Steve Hayes > wrote:


There is no option to "remove" it, though there is an option not to
show it
in reports.

If, say, I know that someone was born in Ohio, USA, I can enter it as

Ohio, USA

and Legacy will display and print it like that.

but I can also enter it as

, , Ohio, USA

to show that the city and county are missing.

And then I can have Legacy print it like that, or to strip away the
leading
commas.

I generally enter just what I know, so I don't put in blank spaces. If I
later find the name of a town where the person was born, I'll just add
that,
like

Columbus, Ohio, USA.

and not

Columbus, , Ohio, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Trevor Carlson]

Works very well if you sort the list in reverse order - largest denomination to 
smallest - which is what I do. It even allows for a 5th field which I sometimes 
use (Ward in a city). If I need to search for a particular city, but don't know 
exactly where it is, I will just temporarily reverse my sort, search it, and 
then put it back after I'm done.

 

Would be nice if Legacy had a search function that would search for a given 
location name regardless of position, though. That would make the re-sorting 
unnecessary.

 

Thanks,

Trevor

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: 4-Apr-17 8:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

 

The Master Location List doesn't do well with no leading commas. You can't sort 
correctly if you select a custom sort and the Expand/Contract Location Parts 
(under Options) won't work correctly.

Sherry

 

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Steve Hayes  wrote:


There is no option to "remove" it, though there is an option not to show it
in reports.

If, say, I know that someone was born in Ohio, USA, I can enter it as

Ohio, USA

and Legacy will display and print it like that.

but I can also enter it as

 ,  , Ohio, USA

to show that the city and county are missing.

And then I can have Legacy print it like that, or to strip away the leading
commas.

I generally enter just what I know, so I don't put in blank spaces. If I
later find the name of a town where the person was born, I'll just add that,
like

Columbus, Ohio, USA.

and not

Columbus,  , Ohio, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Search/Replace Media File Name

[bobstree2]

I could be wrong, but I believe if you do not use Legacy to change the 
filename, you will lose the connection to the source,  and the great Legacy 
Media Reconnection tool will NOT be able to repair that. 
I don't have access to Legacy right now so I can't point you to the file 
renaming tool,  but I am sure someone else on the forum can do that. 




 Original message From: Kris  Date: 4/4/17 
 12:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Legacy User Group  
Subject: [LegacyUG] Search/Replace Media File Name 
Hope this makes sense --

I need (okay, want) to go back and rename almost all of my media files 
(long story).  For the source detail File ID I'm having great success 
using Search/Replace.

However, I also have the media file linked to the source cite detail. 
So, for instance, I need to change the following:

N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_45.pdf to
N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_02.pdf

Since the default location hasn't changed, but the file name has, I 
don't thing Legacy can find it for me automatically.

Is there a search/replace option I can use for this?  I looked in the 
list, but didn't find anything that seemed it would work.

Thanks!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Search/Replace Media File Name

[Kris]

Hi, Richard --

I do have LTools -- and should have mentioned that in my original 
message -- but IIRC it does the search/replace in the background?  With 
Legacy, I can check to make sure the result is what I want before I make 
the change?


Thanks!

On 4/4/2017 12:09 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

ltools will do that as well as many other tasks.
See:
http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/download-ltools/

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Kris  wrote:


Hope this makes sense --

I need (okay, want) to go back and rename almost all of my media files
(long story).  For the source detail File ID I'm having great success using
Search/Replace.

However, I also have the media file linked to the source cite detail. So,
for instance, I need to change the following:

N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_45.pdf to
N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_02.pdf

Since the default location hasn't changed, but the file name has, I don't
thing Legacy can find it for me automatically.

Is there a search/replace option I can use for this?  I looked in the
list, but didn't find anything that seemed it would work.

Thanks!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Search/Replace Media File Name

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

ltools will do that as well as many other tasks.
See:
http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/download-ltools/

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Kris  wrote:

> Hope this makes sense --
>
> I need (okay, want) to go back and rename almost all of my media files
> (long story).  For the source detail File ID I'm having great success using
> Search/Replace.
>
> However, I also have the media file linked to the source cite detail. So,
> for instance, I need to change the following:
>
> N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_45.pdf to
> N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_02.pdf
>
> Since the default location hasn't changed, but the file name has, I don't
> thing Legacy can find it for me automatically.
>
> Is there a search/replace option I can use for this?  I looked in the
> list, but didn't find anything that seemed it would work.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Search/Replace Media File Name

[Kris]

Hope this makes sense --

I need (okay, want) to go back and rename almost all of my media files 
(long story).  For the source detail File ID I'm having great success 
using Search/Replace.


However, I also have the media file linked to the source cite detail. 
So, for instance, I need to change the following:


N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_45.pdf to
N:\Genealogy\Media\Documents\Smith_02.pdf

Since the default location hasn't changed, but the file name has, I 
don't thing Legacy can find it for me automatically.


Is there a search/replace option I can use for this?  I looked in the 
list, but didn't find anything that seemed it would work.


Thanks!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Sherry]

The Master Location List doesn't do well with no leading commas. You can't
sort correctly if you select a custom sort and the Expand/Contract Location
Parts (under Options) won't work correctly.

Sherry


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Steve Hayes  wrote:

>
> There is no option to "remove" it, though there is an option not to show it
> in reports.
>
> If, say, I know that someone was born in Ohio, USA, I can enter it as
>
> Ohio, USA
>
> and Legacy will display and print it like that.
>
> but I can also enter it as
>
>  ,  , Ohio, USA
>
> to show that the city and county are missing.
>
> And then I can have Legacy print it like that, or to strip away the leading
> commas.
>
> I generally enter just what I know, so I don't put in blank spaces. If I
> later find the name of a town where the person was born, I'll just add
> that,
> like
>
> Columbus, Ohio, USA.
>
> and not
>
> Columbus,  , Ohio, USA
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Jennifer Hardess]

Thanks for all the input re place names, it was much appreciated.
My thought was to have all the places of a particular country in one unified 
list so I would have all the towns of say Essex under  : England, Essex .. 
.. That way if I have the opportunity to visit those places I will have a 
complete list of towns in order under County.  Legacy puts default commas in if 
there isn’t 4 place names.
Regards,
Jen in Australia

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From: Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 4:05 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

Yes sometimes it seems a little bit overdoing it when writing out a long 
description, i.e. Ashland Township, Ashland County, Ohio. All I know is that it 
makes  source citations very specific as to locations. There are certain areas 
of the US in which township governments remain quite strong especially in their 
administration and record keeping duties. I’ve been to many county Genealogical 
Societies in which their list of local cemeteries and churches are kept on 
separate list organized by Township name. Using these lists I’ve visited many 
rural cemeteries based on what list I was given not realizing that less than 1 
mile away was another cemetery but because it was in a different township, it 
was on a different list.

The concept of townships is not universal across the US. Most of the western 
states in the US have only state and county governments (as well as city). For 
example, there are no townships in the state of California. But then again 
there is that other strange animal known as the borough found in several 
eastern seaboard states. Even people that live there are confused about how 
that level of government fits into the equation. And then many states have 
another legal entity called a “village”; it’s not quite a town or city. One 
good example is the village of Trempealeau which is located inside the city of 
Trempealeau, all in the township of Trempealeau, in the county of Trempealeau, 
Wisconsin. I unfortunately have most of my family members from that area and I 
can attest to the fact that the city of Trempealeau knowns nothing about the 
county of Trempealeau. And then we won’t even begin to discuss the parishes of 
Louisiana. :)

Brian in CA


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Behalf Of Trevor Carlson
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:59 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

Brian, I do much like you do. Long place description is fully written, but I 
use abbreviations in the short descriptions. I also have an example like yours 
for Kasota, Le Sueur County, Minnesota and Kasota Township, Le Sueur County, 
Minnesota, (among quite a few others). Like many other users, I found it 
difficult to know where a particular event really was until I cleaned up my 
location list by writing them out in full. I also agree with someone else's 
point that it is more useful this way for other people who look at my work.

Thanks,

Trevor Carlson
Edmonton, AB


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: 2-Apr-17 6:31 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

I started adding the additional word “County” to all my county descriptors, 
regardless of if the city or township was also known. I found that I have a 
great deal of ancestors in and around Ashland County, Ohio so I noticed many 
docs from a variety of sources merely stating “Ashland, Ohio”. But a close 
examination of the source itself revealed some were from the city of Ashland, 
some were from the Township of Ashland, and others were merely describing the 
county of Ashland. I found other citations giving the location as “Ashland, 
Ashland, Ohio” which by many others’ convention would seem to be describing the 
city of Ashland in Ashland County but in reality was describing the Township of 
Ashland (not all parts were within the city limits) in Ashland County.

Thus I end up with the following variations:
Ashland, Ashland County, Ohio (meaning in the city of Ashland)
Ashland Township, Ashland County, Ohio (self-explanatory)
And finally “, Ashland County, Ohio” meaning a location somewhere in the county 
with the township not known.


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 3:58 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

I add "County" only when I don't know the city.
, King county, Washington, United States
Seattle, King, Washington, United States.
Although I can understand how confusing it might be if the city and county are 
the same.
Plus I'm not a fan of abbreviations so I spell "county" out. There might 

Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Brian Lightfoot]

Yes sometimes it seems a little bit overdoing it when writing out a long 
description, i.e. Ashland Township, Ashland County, Ohio. All I know is that it 
makes  source citations very specific as to locations. There are certain areas 
of the US in which township governments remain quite strong especially in their 
administration and record keeping duties. I’ve been to many county Genealogical 
Societies in which their list of local cemeteries and churches are kept on 
separate list organized by Township name. Using these lists I’ve visited many 
rural cemeteries based on what list I was given not realizing that less than 1 
mile away was another cemetery but because it was in a different township, it 
was on a different list.

 

The concept of townships is not universal across the US. Most of the western 
states in the US have only state and county governments (as well as city). For 
example, there are no townships in the state of California. But then again 
there is that other strange animal known as the borough found in several 
eastern seaboard states. Even people that live there are confused about how 
that level of government fits into the equation. And then many states have 
another legal entity called a “village”; it’s not quite a town or city. One 
good example is the village of Trempealeau which is located inside the city of 
Trempealeau, all in the township of Trempealeau, in the county of Trempealeau, 
Wisconsin. I unfortunately have most of my family members from that area and I 
can attest to the fact that the city of Trempealeau knowns nothing about the 
county of Trempealeau. And then we won’t even begin to discuss the parishes of 
Louisiana. J

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Trevor Carlson
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:59 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

 

Brian, I do much like you do. Long place description is fully written, but I 
use abbreviations in the short descriptions. I also have an example like yours 
for Kasota, Le Sueur County, Minnesota and Kasota Township, Le Sueur County, 
Minnesota, (among quite a few others). Like many other users, I found it 
difficult to know where a particular event really was until I cleaned up my 
location list by writing them out in full. I also agree with someone else's 
point that it is more useful this way for other people who look at my work.

 

Thanks,

 

Trevor Carlson

Edmonton, AB

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: 2-Apr-17 6:31 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

 

I started adding the additional word “County” to all my county descriptors, 
regardless of if the city or township was also known. I found that I have a 
great deal of ancestors in and around Ashland County, Ohio so I noticed many 
docs from a variety of sources merely stating “Ashland, Ohio”. But a close 
examination of the source itself revealed some were from the city of Ashland, 
some were from the Township of Ashland, and others were merely describing the 
county of Ashland. I found other citations giving the location as “Ashland, 
Ashland, Ohio” which by many others’ convention would seem to be describing the 
city of Ashland in Ashland County but in reality was describing the Township of 
Ashland (not all parts were within the city limits) in Ashland County.

 

Thus I end up with the following variations:

Ashland, Ashland County, Ohio (meaning in the city of Ashland)

Ashland Township, Ashland County, Ohio (self-explanatory)

And finally “, Ashland County, Ohio” meaning a location somewhere in the county 
with the township not known.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 3:58 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

 

I add "County" only when I don't know the city.

, King county, Washington, United States 

Seattle, King, Washington, United States.

Although I can understand how confusing it might be if the city and county are 
the same.

Plus I'm not a fan of abbreviations so I spell "county" out. There might be 
those who aren't sure what "Co." means.  It's a common abbreviation for 
"company"

The WA abbreviation for Washington state is also the abbreviation for Western 
Australia and there's a town there with the same name as where I live in 
Washington!

 

Sherry

 

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Leonard J. McCown  wrote:

Years ago I learned to leave a space for a place that was
missing, to mark its place, and also to tell the person that
it is a town, village, etc., and the next is the county (at
least in the USA). I have continued that, but have started a
no-no also, by adding Co. to the county so it is clear. Too
many places and counties are named