Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Peter Matthews]

I agree.

I'm sure we all do very much appreciate the invariably timely and helpful 
responses from Cathy and Michele to posted problems on this list.

However I think it would also solve some of the angst if any Legacy 
announcements could also be posted to this list. It can't be that hard. We 
don't need all the Facebook posts, only any "announcements", whether formal or 
not. "Legacy News" is not enough.

Yes, FB might have some advantages over this list, but the reality is that a 
significant proportion of faithful Legacy customers just do not want to join 
Facebook. Please, do not "leave us in the dust".

Peter

At 17:17 08-01-19 -0800, Sherry H wrote:
PLEASE!!

REREAD what I wrote. I'm not expecting whole conversations from FB to
be posted here.

If a staff member posts and announcement, such as build release, new
webinar, reduced rates for MyHeritage or upgrade prices for Legacy or
Legacy products = THOSE should be posted on the LUG list. Tips would
also be nice. How-to only if someone on the LUG list asks.

How hard is that to understand?

FB Notifications are IMPOSSIBLE. I've turned them off in most of the
groups I am a member of (I have no "Friends" on FB as they're insane
as well - I've seen some of the threads and no way do I have the time
or energy for that nonsense!) and have few showing only in FB. I will
not get them by text or email. Even if they're not Legacy posts.

FB is so changeable that FB Purity has a hard time keeping up. Plus it
seems to slow FB down, at least for me.

I do subscribe to the LUG email. However, it seems that FB is quicker
for notifications as those are posted right away and the LUG email is
generally quite behind.


S.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:56 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
> The reason that pictures and attachments are not allowed on this list is
> that apparently some people still have limited and/or slow internet access.
>
> Note expecting posts on Facebook to be copied here is totally
> unrealistic. I mostly post comments that make no sense without the
> originating post and the following discussion. My comments are often
> tips or step by step directions on how to do something. Most of the
> knowledgeable people on FB do the same. Respond to requests for help
> with useful stuff.
>
> There are various ways to get notifications on Facebook. You can have
> them emailed to you which I think would be a nightmare. I open Facebook
> and see them there on the Notification symbol on the Facebook "toolbar".
>
> RE Webinar announcements, most are also in the Legacy News email so if
> you want them, make sure you get Legacy News by email.
> Here is where you can subscribe. https://legacyfamilytree.com/Subscribe.asp
>
> As Michele pointed out you can join Facebook and participate in Groups
> and not engage in any of the Friend stuff. I only sometimes look at my
> personal newsfeed. I rarely if ever post on my own page. I use F.B.
> Purity to get rid of ads and to control the order of the Notifications
> so they are time ordered rather than what FB thinks I should see first.
>
> Cathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[CE WOOD]

So, after we made Legacy great, you are abandoning your diehard supporters - or 
driving and leaving us out to make life easier for you and support ?x!#erberg?

Sic transit gloria.

CE


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 4:55 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

The reason that pictures and attachments are not allowed on this list is
that apparently some people still have limited and/or slow internet access.

Note expecting posts on Facebook to be copied here is totally
unrealistic. I mostly post comments that make no sense without the
originating post and the following discussion. My comments are often
tips or step by step directions on how to do something. Most of the
knowledgeable people on FB do the same. Respond to requests for help
with useful stuff.

There are various ways to get notifications on Facebook. You can have
them emailed to you which I think would be a nightmare. I open Facebook
and see them there on the Notification symbol on the Facebook "toolbar".

RE Webinar announcements, most are also in the Legacy News email so if
you want them, make sure you get Legacy News by email.
Here is where you can subscribe. 
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flegacyfamilytree.com%2FSubscribe.aspdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5491b80371be4e40b7d808d675cd3967%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636825921620279968sdata=H61ENe22bglAAtBkD%2B%2FNmuSSPEVJa5w12LS0uD27iOU%3Dreserved=0

As Michele pointed out you can join Facebook and participate in Groups
and not engage in any of the Friend stuff. I only sometimes look at my
personal newsfeed. I rarely if ever post on my own page. I use F.B.
Purity to get rid of ads and to control the order of the Notifications
so they are time ordered rather than what FB thinks I should see first.

Cathy

> Jeff 
> Wednesday, 9 January 2019 6:42 AM
> +1
> Not even once a month on Facebook!
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas 
> Wednesday, 9 January 2019 5:55 AM
> Sherry - you have just enumerated all the desires (for a much better
> LUG email list) that I silently think about. Pictures on this list
> would be a major improvement.
>
> I have had a FB account for 10 years but I probably use FB (not the
> Legacy group, which I don't belong to) about once monthly.
>
> Frankly, I'm pleased to see the FB organization withering and being
> held to some) account for its transgressions.
>
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Sherry H
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019 3:29 AM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook
>
> I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
> keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
> in mailing lists
>
> It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
> it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
> mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
> page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
> pertinent information about Legacy.
>
> *Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
> *It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching
> in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
> *Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still
> there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
> *If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can
> cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen
> spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade
> through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also
> put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts *Polls can be sent on
> mailing lists as well. I just responded to one on a book list.
> *I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or
> delete ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
> *All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
> *Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.
>
> I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I
> so wish they were mailing lists instead!
>
> Sherry
>
> Sherry H 
> Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:28 AM
> I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
> keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
> in mailing lists
>
> It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
> it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
> mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
> page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
> pertinent information about Legacy.
>
> *Many email 

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Sherry H]

PLEASE!!

REREAD what I wrote. I'm not expecting whole conversations from FB to
be posted here.

If a staff member posts and announcement, such as build release, new
webinar, reduced rates for MyHeritage or upgrade prices for Legacy or
Legacy products = THOSE should be posted on the LUG list. Tips would
also be nice. How-to only if someone on the LUG list asks.

How hard is that to understand?

FB Notifications are IMPOSSIBLE. I've turned them off in most of the
groups I am a member of (I have no "Friends" on FB as they're insane
as well - I've seen some of the threads and no way do I have the time
or energy for that nonsense!) and have few showing only in FB. I will
not get them by text or email. Even if they're not Legacy posts.

FB is so changeable that FB Purity has a hard time keeping up. Plus it
seems to slow FB down, at least for me.

I do subscribe to the LUG email. However, it seems that FB is quicker
for notifications as those are posted right away and the LUG email is
generally quite behind.


S.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:56 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
> The reason that pictures and attachments are not allowed on this list is
> that apparently some people still have limited and/or slow internet access.
>
> Note expecting posts on Facebook to be copied here is totally
> unrealistic. I mostly post comments that make no sense without the
> originating post and the following discussion. My comments are often
> tips or step by step directions on how to do something. Most of the
> knowledgeable people on FB do the same. Respond to requests for help
> with useful stuff.
>
> There are various ways to get notifications on Facebook. You can have
> them emailed to you which I think would be a nightmare. I open Facebook
> and see them there on the Notification symbol on the Facebook "toolbar".
>
> RE Webinar announcements, most are also in the Legacy News email so if
> you want them, make sure you get Legacy News by email.
> Here is where you can subscribe. https://legacyfamilytree.com/Subscribe.asp
>
> As Michele pointed out you can join Facebook and participate in Groups
> and not engage in any of the Friend stuff. I only sometimes look at my
> personal newsfeed. I rarely if ever post on my own page. I use F.B.
> Purity to get rid of ads and to control the order of the Notifications
> so they are time ordered rather than what FB thinks I should see first.
>
> Cathy
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Cathy Pinner]

The reason that pictures and attachments are not allowed on this list is 
that apparently some people still have limited and/or slow internet access.


Note expecting posts on Facebook to be copied here is totally 
unrealistic. I mostly post comments that make no sense without the 
originating post and the following discussion. My comments are often 
tips or step by step directions on how to do something. Most of the 
knowledgeable people on FB do the same. Respond to requests for help 
with useful stuff.


There are various ways to get notifications on Facebook. You can have 
them emailed to you which I think would be a nightmare. I open Facebook 
and see them there on the Notification symbol on the Facebook "toolbar".


RE Webinar announcements, most are also in the Legacy News email so if 
you want them, make sure you get Legacy News by email.

Here is where you can subscribe. https://legacyfamilytree.com/Subscribe.asp

As Michele pointed out you can join Facebook and participate in Groups 
and not engage in any of the Friend stuff. I only sometimes look at my 
personal newsfeed. I rarely if ever post on my own page. I use F.B. 
Purity to get rid of ads and to control the order of the Notifications 
so they are time ordered rather than what FB thinks I should see first.


Cathy


Jeff 
Wednesday, 9 January 2019 6:42 AM
+1
Not even once a month on Facebook!





Ian Thomas 
Wednesday, 9 January 2019 5:55 AM
Sherry - you have just enumerated all the desires (for a much better 
LUG email list) that I silently think about. Pictures on this list 
would be a major improvement.


I have had a FB account for 10 years but I probably use FB (not the 
Legacy group, which I don't belong to) about once monthly.


Frankly, I'm pleased to see the FB organization withering and being 
held to some) account for its transgressions.


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Sherry H

Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019 3:29 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't 
keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do 
in mailing lists


It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste 
it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the 
mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB 
page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other 
pertinent information about Legacy.


*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching 
in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still 
there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can 
cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen 
spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade 
through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also 
put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts *Polls can be sent on 
mailing lists as well. I just responded to one on a book list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or 
delete ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.

*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I 
so wish they were mailing lists instead!


Sherry

Sherry H 
Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:28 AM
I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching
in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still
there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can
cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen
spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade
through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also
put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Jeff]

+1
Not even once a month on Facebook!

On January 8, 2019 4:56:11 PM Ian Thomas  wrote:

> Sherry - you have just enumerated all the desires (for a much better LUG 
> email list) that I silently think about. Pictures on this list would be a 
> major improvement.
>
> I have had a FB account for 10 years but  I probably use FB (not the Legacy 
> group, which I don't belong to) about once monthly.
>
> Frankly, I'm pleased to see the FB organization withering and being held to 
> some) account for its transgressions.
>
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sherry H
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019 3:29 AM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook
>
> I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't keep up 
> with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do in mailing lists
>
> It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste it into 
> an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the mailing list 
> won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB page but there's no 
> reason they can't get announcements or other pertinent information about 
> Legacy.
>
> *Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
> *It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching in a FB 
> group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
> *Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still there in 
> my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
> *If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can cut 
> down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen spam on any 
> of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade through all the ads that 
> FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also put a stop to a thread by 
> rejecting posts *Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded 
> to one on a book list.
> *I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or delete 
> ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
> *All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
> *Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.
>
> I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I so wish 
> they were mailing lists instead!
>
> Sherry
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup 
>  wrote:
>>
>> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more
>> information than the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The
>> Facebook LUG is in a much easier format to post information. I can do
>> ten times as much stuff on the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot 
>> faster.
>>
>> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the
>> conversations
>>
>> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more
>> readable (and most people don't do this anyways) *It is very easy to
>> search the group for past posts.
>> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
>> everyone *We have "sticky" announcements *Upcoming webinars are
>> announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts *We can delete
>> spam *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course *You
>> can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and
>> explaining
>> problems) so much easier
>> *You can create polls (fun!)
>>
>> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of
>> the Facebook LUG
>>
>> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
>> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I
>> can't make this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>>
>> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that
>> you are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send
>> you friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it
>> isn't obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook
>> rules but there is some flexibility). You can pretty much block
>> everything. You need to go into the Privacy settings (all of the
>> settings really) and go line by line to get it set up like you want.
>> We have users that have Facebook for no other reason that the LUG
>> group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser extension F.B. Purity. It
>> works with Facebook to give a TON of options on what you see and what
>> you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like ads).
>>
>> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference
>> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you
>> can join the Facebook LUG here:
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
>> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are
>> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group
>> are, Geoff Rasmussen, Marian 

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Ian Thomas]

Sherry - you have just enumerated all the desires (for a much better LUG email 
list) that I silently think about. Pictures on this list would be a major 
improvement.

I have had a FB account for 10 years but  I probably use FB (not the Legacy 
group, which I don't belong to) about once monthly. 

Frankly, I'm pleased to see the FB organization withering and being held to 
some) account for its transgressions.

Ian Thomas 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry H
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019 3:29 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't keep up with 
it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste it into an 
email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the mailing list won't 
get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB page but there's no reason 
they can't get announcements or other pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching in a FB 
group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still there in my 
face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can cut down 
on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen spam on any of the 
mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade through all the ads that FB puts 
in a group. A moderated list can also put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts 
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one on a book 
list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or delete 
ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I so wish 
they were mailing lists instead!

Sherry

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup 
 wrote:
>
> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more 
> information than the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The 
> Facebook LUG is in a much easier format to post information. I can do 
> ten times as much stuff on the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot 
> faster.
>
> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the 
> conversations
>
> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more 
> readable (and most people don't do this anyways) *It is very easy to 
> search the group for past posts.
> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to 
> everyone *We have "sticky" announcements *Upcoming webinars are 
> announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts *We can delete 
> spam *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course *You 
> can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and 
> explaining
> problems) so much easier
> *You can create polls (fun!)
>
> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of 
> the Facebook LUG
>
> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join 
> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I 
> can't make this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>
> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that 
> you are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send 
> you friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it 
> isn't obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook 
> rules but there is some flexibility). You can pretty much block 
> everything. You need to go into the Privacy settings (all of the 
> settings really) and go line by line to get it set up like you want. 
> We have users that have Facebook for no other reason that the LUG 
> group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser extension F.B. Purity. It 
> works with Facebook to give a TON of options on what you see and what 
> you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like ads).
>
> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference 
> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you 
> can join the Facebook LUG here: 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are 
> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group 
> are, Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech 
> support), and I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two 
> names I am sure you are familiar with.
>
> In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the 

Re: [LegacyUG] DMARC

[Roberta Schwalm]

Hallelujah!

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:12 AM Michele Lewis 
wrote:

> We have changed some setting in the LUG email client so that you shouldn’t
> see many (if any) of the DMARC quarantine messages.
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
>
> Legacy Educator
>
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Sherry H]

Michele,

Not *every* post. Just announcements about Legacy, webinars, etc. And
if you decide to allow graphics in emails, then no problems. I'm on a
lot of HTML email lists. It's attachments that can get scary!

I agree with a lot of the users. I absolutely cannot handle the number
of posts to the Legacy FB page. One of my biggest gripes is the number
of posts that repeat what someone else just said. If a member sees
that a question has been satisfactorily answered, why answer it again?

I get annoyed with a lot of the groups where members just do a
one-word post that doesn't enhance the conversation at all - like
'Yes!" or "Amen!" - just hit the danged "Like" button if you agree!

Since I don't use FB for Legacy, and announcements or helpful info is
rarely posted by staff here, I feel left out of the Legacy loop.


S.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:15 AM Michele Lewis
 wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Marian and can't just copy and paste every post. Besides the 
> time involved, almost every post that Marian and I do have graphics.
>
> The email LUG is here for those who prefer this format and that is perfectly 
> fine but I just wanted to let everyone know there are limitations.
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com

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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

[Ian Macaulay]

HA HA I agree,   It was just a brainfart.

Ian

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:23 PM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> A roll call of almost 19,000 people. Nope 
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
> mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
>
>
> From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf
> Of Ian Macaulay via LegacyUserGroup
> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:00 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Cc: Ian Macaulay 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List
>
> I have no gripe about Facebook but will not use it, just because it eats
> far too much of my time.  Being a curious curator, it can probably kill.
> However I also was surprised at the numbers quoted as membership.
> Have you ever thought of doing a roll call?  Just to see  what the numbers
> really look like?
> I for one am probably signed up as a Facebook member but never go there.
> I do read the postings (At least the topics) on this list daily.
>
> Ian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

[Brian Kelly]

The member numbers are included by Facebook when I am in the group and 
click on the members link in the left hand menu. The count is also 
included in the members section of the About page for the group.


You are listed as a member of the group so you can visit the group page 
and confirm for yourself that Michele quoted the correct member count.


Brian Kelly

On 08-Jan.-19 11:59 a.m., Ian Macaulay via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

I have no gripe about Facebook but will not use it, just because it eats
far too much of my time.  Being a curious curator, it can probably kill.
However I also was surprised at the numbers quoted as membership.
Have you ever thought of doing a roll call?  Just to see  what the numbers
really look like?
I for one am probably signed up as a Facebook member but never go there.  I
do read the postings (At least the topics) on this list daily.

Ian





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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

[Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup]

A roll call of almost 19,000 people. Nope   

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/  


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Ian Macaulay via LegacyUserGroup
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Cc: Ian Macaulay 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

I have no gripe about Facebook but will not use it, just because it eats far 
too much of my time.  Being a curious curator, it can probably kill.
However I also was surprised at the numbers quoted as membership.
Have you ever thought of doing a roll call?  Just to see  what the numbers 
really look like?
I for one am probably signed up as a Facebook member but never go there.  I do 
read the postings (At least the topics) on this list daily.  

Ian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup]

Unfortunately Marian and can't just copy and paste every post. Besides the time 
involved, almost every post that Marian and I do have graphics. 

The email LUG is here for those who prefer this format and that is perfectly 
fine but I just wanted to let everyone know there are limitations. 


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
www.legacyfamilytree.com  


-Original Message-
From: Sherry H  
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:29 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Cc: Michele Lewis 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't keep up with 
it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste it into an 
email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the mailing list won't 
get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB page but there's no reason 
they can't get announcements or other pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching in a FB 
group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still there in my 
face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can cut down 
on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen spam on any of the 
mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade through all the ads that FB puts 
in a group. A moderated list can also put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts 
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one on a book 
list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or delete 
ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I so wish 
they were mailing lists instead!

Sherry

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup 
 wrote:
>
> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more 
> information than the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The 
> Facebook LUG is in a much easier format to post information. I can do 
> ten times as much stuff on the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot 
> faster.
>
> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the 
> conversations
>
> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more 
> readable (and most people don't do this anyways) *It is very easy to 
> search the group for past posts.
> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to 
> everyone *We have "sticky" announcements *Upcoming webinars are 
> announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts *We can delete 
> spam *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course *You 
> can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and 
> explaining
> problems) so much easier
> *You can create polls (fun!)
>
> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of 
> the Facebook LUG
>
> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join 
> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I 
> can't make this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>
> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that 
> you are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send 
> you friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it 
> isn't obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook 
> rules but there is some flexibility). You can pretty much block 
> everything. You need to go into the Privacy settings (all of the 
> settings really) and go line by line to get it set up like you want. 
> We have users that have Facebook for no other reason that the LUG 
> group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser extension F.B. Purity. It 
> works with Facebook to give a TON of options on what you see and what 
> you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like ads).
>
> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference 
> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you 
> can join the Facebook LUG here: 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are 
> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group 
> are, Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech 
> support), and I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two 
> names I am sure you are familiar with.
>
> In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the Dutch
> (https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyNederlands/) and the Danes
> 

[LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

[Ian Macaulay via LegacyUserGroup]

I have no gripe about Facebook but will not use it, just because it eats
far too much of my time.  Being a curious curator, it can probably kill.
However I also was surprised at the numbers quoted as membership.
Have you ever thought of doing a roll call?  Just to see  what the numbers
really look like?
I for one am probably signed up as a Facebook member but never go there.  I
do read the postings (At least the topics) on this list daily.

Ian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Carolyn White via LegacyUserGroup]

 I have "followed" the FB page for a while but even though I'm signed up for 
notifications, I never get one (and because of that I never remember to go to 
the page).  I second the usefulness of the email list.
Carolyn White

On Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 11:35:11 AM EST, Sherry H 
 wrote:  
 
 I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching
in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still
there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can
cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen
spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade
through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also
put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one
on a book list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or
delete ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I
so wish they were mailing lists instead!

Sherry

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
 wrote:
>
> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more information than
> the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The Facebook LUG is in a
> much easier format to post information. I can do ten times as much stuff on
> the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot faster.
>
> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the conversations
>
> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more readable
> (and most people don't do this anyways)
> *It is very easy to search the group for past posts.
> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
> everyone
> *We have "sticky" announcements
> *Upcoming webinars are announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts
> *We can delete spam
> *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course
> *You can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and explaining
> problems) so much easier
> *You can create polls (fun!)
>
> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of the
> Facebook LUG
>
> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I can't make
> this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>
> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that you
> are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send you
> friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it isn't
> obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook rules but there
> is some flexibility). You can pretty much block everything. You need to go
> into the Privacy settings (all of the settings really) and go line by line
> to get it set up like you want. We have users that have Facebook for no
> other reason that the LUG group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser
> extension F.B. Purity. It works with Facebook to give a TON of options on
> what you see and what you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like
> ads).
>
> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference
> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you can
> join the Facebook LUG here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are
> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group are,
> Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech support), and
> I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two names I am sure you
> are familiar with.
>
> In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the Dutch
> (https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyNederlands/) and the Danes
> (https://www.facebook.com/groups/198010627281215/)  These two groups are
> admin'd by the Legacy Translation Teams. I am also admin on these two groups
> in case I am needed but I don't actively post there (my Dutch and Danish are
> a bit weak).
>
> I hope this information helps.
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family 

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

[Sherry H]

I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching
in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still
there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can
cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen
spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade
through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also
put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one
on a book list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or
delete ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I
so wish they were mailing lists instead!

Sherry

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
 wrote:
>
> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more information than
> the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The Facebook LUG is in a
> much easier format to post information. I can do ten times as much stuff on
> the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot faster.
>
> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the conversations
>
> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more readable
> (and most people don't do this anyways)
> *It is very easy to search the group for past posts.
> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
> everyone
> *We have "sticky" announcements
> *Upcoming webinars are announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts
> *We can delete spam
> *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course
> *You can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and explaining
> problems) so much easier
> *You can create polls (fun!)
>
> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of the
> Facebook LUG
>
> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I can't make
> this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>
> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that you
> are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send you
> friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it isn't
> obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook rules but there
> is some flexibility). You can pretty much block everything. You need to go
> into the Privacy settings (all of the settings really) and go line by line
> to get it set up like you want. We have users that have Facebook for no
> other reason that the LUG group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser
> extension F.B. Purity. It works with Facebook to give a TON of options on
> what you see and what you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like
> ads).
>
> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference
> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you can
> join the Facebook LUG here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are
> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group are,
> Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech support), and
> I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two names I am sure you
> are familiar with.
>
> In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the Dutch
> (https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyNederlands/) and the Danes
> (https://www.facebook.com/groups/198010627281215/)  These two groups are
> admin'd by the Legacy Translation Teams. I am also admin on these two groups
> in case I am needed but I don't actively post there (my Dutch and Danish are
> a bit weak).
>
> I hope this information helps.
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Facebook

[Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup]

We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more information than
the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The Facebook LUG is in a
much easier format to post information. I can do ten times as much stuff on
the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot faster.

*Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the conversations

*You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more readable
(and most people don't do this anyways) 
*It is very easy to search the group for past posts. 
*There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
everyone
*We have "sticky" announcements 
*Upcoming webinars are announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts
*We can delete spam
*We can close comments on a thread that has run its course
*You can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and explaining
problems) so much easier
*You can create polls (fun!)

There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of the
Facebook LUG

I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I can't make
this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.

You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that you
are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send you
friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it isn't
obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook rules but there
is some flexibility). You can pretty much block everything. You need to go
into the Privacy settings (all of the settings really) and go line by line
to get it set up like you want. We have users that have Facebook for no
other reason that the LUG group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser
extension F.B. Purity. It works with Facebook to give a TON of options on
what you see and what you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like
ads).

Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference
between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you can
join the Facebook LUG here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are
approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group are,
Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech support), and
I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two names I am sure you
are familiar with.

In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the Dutch
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyNederlands/) and the Danes
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/198010627281215/)  These two groups are
admin'd by the Legacy Translation Teams. I am also admin on these two groups
in case I am needed but I don't actively post there (my Dutch and Danish are
a bit weak).

I hope this information helps.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com   




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[LegacyUG] Mapping

[Michele Lewis]

Mapping - Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The
developers are working on something new to replace it. I do not have any
timetable for this.  

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR

Legacy Educator

Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

 

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[LegacyUG] DMARC

[Michele Lewis]

We have changed some setting in the LUG email client so that you shouldn't
see many (if any) of the DMARC quarantine messages.

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR

Legacy Educator

Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

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