Re: [LegacyUG] V9 Hinting

2017-05-16 Thread Dick Nixon
Got it. Thanks.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
> You misunderstand. Hints work by automating the search function for those
> sites. The info Legacy sends out is similar to the data you have to manually
> submit to the site in order to do a search of their records. Data on one
> person at a time is sent in a single transmission, there is no giant
> submission of all the data from your file in one big lump. In fact the hint
> sites also want Legacy to control how often a search is performed, that is
> why in the hint settings you can only set the refresh (ie. the time between
> searches for the same person) time at a minimum of 30 days.
>
> The benefit of hinting is that Hints submit these search requests and
> accumulate the responses (hits) on your behalf without you having to sit at
> your computer: submitting searches for each person, analyzing each screen
> full of responses and updating your data from those results. Hints let you
> know there is a potential match but you can investigate those at your
> leisure.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
> On 16-May-17 12:28 PM, Dick Nixon wrote:
>>
>> OK, thanks.
>>
>> ""No access to my Legacy data.""
>>
>> So hinting sites only give hints if I have uploaded a gedcom to them?
>> I thought Legacy V9 hints sent some info up so they could tell if they
>> had hints. Then I could decide to subscribe if I wanted to get the
>> info. More confused now. Not sure what Legacy is giving me.
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Michele/Support
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> MyHeritage does not have access to your data. The only way for your data
>>> to
>>> get on MyHeritage is if you upload a gedcom to their website.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>>> Legacy Family Tree
>>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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>>>
>>> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
>>> a
>>> service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
>>> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Dick Nixon
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:20 AM
>>> To: Legacy User Group 
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] V9 Hinting
>>>
>>> I'm a little confused about the hinting in V9 and the concerns about
>>> MyHeritate getting and publishing users' data. Is there any way that the
>>> "hinting sites" can use my Legacy database data for their own use?
>>> Put it on their site? Or do they just look at it and suggest hints that
>>> only
>>> I see?
>>>
>>> (I tried to ask this question-twice-during Geoff's last Webinar but got
>>> no
>>> answer.)
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Re: [LegacyUG] V9 Hinting

2017-05-16 Thread Dick Nixon
OK, thanks.

""No access to my Legacy data.""

So hinting sites only give hints if I have uploaded a gedcom to them?
I thought Legacy V9 hints sent some info up so they could tell if they
had hints. Then I could decide to subscribe if I wanted to get the
info. More confused now. Not sure what Legacy is giving me.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Michele/Support
 wrote:
> MyHeritage does not have access to your data. The only way for your data to
> get on MyHeritage is if you upload a gedcom to their website.
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
> Legacy Family Tree
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
> service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Dick Nixon
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:20 AM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V9 Hinting
>
> I'm a little confused about the hinting in V9 and the concerns about
> MyHeritate getting and publishing users' data. Is there any way that the
> "hinting sites" can use my Legacy database data for their own use?
> Put it on their site? Or do they just look at it and suggest hints that only
> I see?
>
> (I tried to ask this question-twice-during Geoff's last Webinar but got no
> answer.)
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[LegacyUG] V9 Hinting

2017-05-16 Thread Dick Nixon
I'm a little confused about the hinting in V9 and the concerns about
MyHeritate getting and publishing users' data. Is there any way that
the "hinting sites" can use my Legacy database data for their own use?
Put it on their site? Or do they just look at it and suggest hints
that only I see?

(I tried to ask this question-twice-during Geoff's last Webinar but
got no answer.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Formats

2016-07-09 Thread Dick Nixon
Hi. So you make your own custom bbdb events with notes? How do you
handle the duplicate events that Legacy automatically puts in in
certain reports? Just ignore them?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Greg and Laurel
 wrote:
> I so agree with you Dick. I hate the way the notes are placed in reports so 
> much so that a few years ago I stopped using them. There is no continuity, no 
> flow, with them being stuck at the end of the report. I strictly use 
> Events/Event Notes now so that my reports are in a true chronological order 
> without information being scattered about. Laurel
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Re: [LegacyUG] Events, Event Notes, Regular Notes

2016-07-09 Thread Dick Nixon
Hi Linda.Somehow the subject of sourcing has gotten mixed in with the
discussion of how Legacy formats reports with notes. You can, as you
suggest, create new B,B,D, and Burial events. They will print
chronologically and have the notes in the "right" place. But on some
reports, haven't looked at all of them, Legacy will put in its own
version of the Vital events as well. Then you get duplicate events in
different places. And on the FGS Legacy will still shove their version
of the Vital notes down to the end of the report.  Try a Chronology
report with your new events and you will see the issues.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Formats

2016-07-07 Thread Dick Nixon
I don't have a problem with the vital dates at the top of the report, part
of the header with the name. As now. But I would like B,B, D, and Burial
events, with notes, to appear chronologically interleaved with all the
other events. As on the chronological report. I could create new B,B,D,B
events-that would work on the family group sheet-but would duplicate with
the built in vital events on other reports.

Sticking B,B,D.B notes down at the end makes no sense to me when other
event notes appear with their event names, dates, and places and can
sort chronologically. (Yeah, I know I can sort events in other ways.)

Just wonder why this hasn't come up before. Maybe I am still using family
group sheets and everyone else is doing web sites? Looking for ideas on how
others handle these inconsistencies.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Formats

2016-07-07 Thread Dick Nixon
Uh, Brian. Appreciate you answering, but I really hoped for a bit more
insight from you. On the original question.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Brian/Support
 wrote:
> Since he was talking about an Individual Chart report the vital event
> pictures do print on that report, they will also print on a Family Group
> Report.
>
> It is only the narrative reports which group all the vital events into a
> single paragraph which will not include vital event pictures.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
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>
> On 07-Jul-16 1:25 PM, Brian Lightfoot wrote:
>>
>> You forgot to mention that any photos attached to the vitals events do not
>> print out on a report.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dick Nixon
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Report Formats
>>
>> Can anyone help me understand why  Or suggest a better way to handle
>> this...
>>
>> Legacy has a great facility for handling event/facts. It includes the
>> description, place, date, and notes. Keeps them all together and makes for
>> a
>> nice chronology.  (One of the main advantages over Roots Magic!) BUT the
>> big
>> events--birth, baptism, death, and burial--have their notes stuck at the
>> end
>> of the individual and family reports, down with the General Notes etc.
>> The
>> Chronology report does put the big event notes where they belong!
>>
>> Also, it seems that if I format the notes to look good (say extra LFs at
>> beginning and/or end) in the Individual report, they do not look good in
>> the
>> Chronology report. Different rules for automatic line feeds by Legacy?
>>
>> Has anyone worked out a way to format notes so they look good everywhere?
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of issues with report formatting, especially when
>> there are page breaks.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Formats

2016-07-07 Thread Dick Nixon
Imagine the birth data listed as the first event-name, date, place,
and notes, just like any other event (residence, occupation, etc.)

If you click the chronology tab on the main screen, it does it
"right". All together in one place. Same for death, etc. Notes stay
with the other data.

Try printing an Inv. Report including Chronology pages to see the difference.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Evelyn ..  wrote:
> Hi Dick,
> I don't understand where on the individual/family group report you want to
> have the event notes show up.  Would you tell me more about where you want
> them to go?
> Thanks,
> Evelyn
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Dick Nixon  wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone help me understand why  Or suggest a better way to handle
>> this...
>>
>> Legacy has a great facility for handling event/facts. It includes the
>> description, place, date, and notes. Keeps them all together and makes
>> for a nice chronology.  (One of the main advantages over Roots Magic!)
>> BUT the big events--birth, baptism, death, and burial--have their
>> notes stuck at the end of the individual and family reports, down with
>> the General Notes etc.  The Chronology report does put the big event
>> notes where they belong!
>>
>> Also, it seems that if I format the notes to look good (say extra LFs
>> at beginning and/or end) in the Individual report, they do not look
>> good in the Chronology report. Different rules for automatic line
>> feeds by Legacy?
>>
>> Has anyone worked out a way to format notes so they look good everywhere?
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of issues with report formatting, especially
>> when there are page breaks.
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[LegacyUG] Report Formats

2016-07-07 Thread Dick Nixon
Can anyone help me understand why  Or suggest a better way to handle this...

Legacy has a great facility for handling event/facts. It includes the
description, place, date, and notes. Keeps them all together and makes
for a nice chronology.  (One of the main advantages over Roots Magic!)
BUT the big events--birth, baptism, death, and burial--have their
notes stuck at the end of the individual and family reports, down with
the General Notes etc.  The Chronology report does put the big event
notes where they belong!

Also, it seems that if I format the notes to look good (say extra LFs
at beginning and/or end) in the Individual report, they do not look
good in the Chronology report. Different rules for automatic line
feeds by Legacy?

Has anyone worked out a way to format notes so they look good everywhere?

There seem to be a lot of issues with report formatting, especially
when there are page breaks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Personal knowledge

2016-01-25 Thread Dick Nixon
Ed,
I do pretty much what Cathy does. I use a 'Personal Knowledge of
xxx'usually myself and the detail is usually 'I was there'. As you
say, good enough for me. But in the future, when you are out of the
picture or no one is sure how scrupulous you were about accuracy, or
you want to submit your work to a lineage society, it may not be
enough. So your choice may depend on where you see your work going in
the future.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Marianne Szabo  wrote:
> One school of thought that I was taught was that only the mother can truly
> relate the day and time of the birth, particularly if the birth took place
> before fathers were allowed into the delivery room.
>
>
>
> Marianne
>
>
>
> From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:29 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Personal knowledge
>
>
>
> Ed,
>
> There is a SourceWriter template for Personal Knowledge.
> If you use Basic Sources, you can enter something similar.
> I include whose knowledge and how they know or think they know - ie
> something that enables you to evaluate the knowledge.
> eg: If my brother tells me he's a grandfather again on the day of the birth,
> I can be sure of the date - unless he just says "last night" and doesn't
> know at that stage whether it was before or after midnight.
> But if I ask him now when one of them was born, I can't be so sure of the
> information he gives me unless he looks it up as he's not good with dates.
> Takes after our father - who gave us birthday presents but rarely on the day
> itself.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Ed Ladendorf wrote:
>
>
> This is something I'm struggling with. We might know things, but have
> no hard proof to offer t o someone else who might be working on our
> line. For instance, let's say you have personal knowledge of a
> person's birthday or date or cause of death (probably an immediate
> family member), but you have no birth certificate or other
> documentation. How would you cite the source? I have more than one
> instance like this, and I could order the certificates, but I would
> rather put that money toward other genealogical goodies, like Civil
> War Pension records. Not only that, but ordering documentation like
> that just seems like a waste of money, since I'm 100% sure of the
> information.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Todays webinar

2015-06-03 Thread Dick Nixon
It was aol for both of us. Not sure where you got the link to copy as
the message with the link in it does not open for me. I can dig it out
of the source code and copy i, paste it in Chrome, it works.

d

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> I have found that AOL is sometimes the problem when I am attending webinars,
> therefore I copy the link and paste it into my Chrome browser and voila! no
> problems.
> If you don't have Chrome I am sure it would work with Firefox or iExplorer.
>
> John Callahan
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2015 10:53:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> nixon.d...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Try this. Select, don't open the aol message. Rt click the message and
> select show source. Dig thru the code, find the link to the webonar,
> and paste it into your browser. Worked for me.
>
> d
>
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>>
>>  I am too opn AOL. I get an problem message.
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>> -Original Message-
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>> To: legacyusergroup 
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>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Todays webinar
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>> Is anyone else having trouble logging in? None of my messages from
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Re: [LegacyUG] Todays webinar

2015-06-03 Thread Dick Nixon
Try this. Select, don't open the aol message. Rt click the message and
select show source. Dig thru the code, find the link to the webonar,
and paste it into your browser. Worked for me.

d

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> Is anyone else having trouble logging in? None of my messages from
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[LegacyUG] Todays webinar

2015-06-03 Thread Dick Nixon
Is anyone else having trouble logging in? None of my messages from
customercare will load.

d




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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 8 Deluxe Edition

2014-09-08 Thread Dick Nixon
I never doubted it was easier for you. But poor marketing if you do
want customer feedback.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> Oh, and forgot to mention - some need further discussion about the
> suggestionn - either I don't quite understand the concept or I'm not sure
> just where the suggestion would apply.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Sherry/Support
>  wrote:
>>
>> No, the reason why we ask for suggestions to be sent separately, unless
>> there are just two or three, is because so many of the suggestions that come
>> in are for things that can already be done in Legacy.
>>
>> It's so much easier to review a short list and make sure *everything* is
>> considered than to work my way down a long list, esp if some of the items in
>> the list are bugs (they go to a different department), some are things that
>> can be done and the requestor just hasn't figured it out (I need to explain
>> how) and some are true suggestions.
>>
>> Just this morning after going through about 6-8 suggestions, only one or
>> two ended up being something that couldn't already be done in Legacy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sherry
>> Technical Support
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Dick Nixon  wrote:
>>>
>>> You would think Legacy would be happy to get a well thoughtout report
>>> like that, especially since the suggestions are so closely related.
>>> But it is their way or the highway. Last year I offered a long list of
>>> inconsistencies in various related reports...they only made sense if
>>> they were considered together. I got the same message...split it all
>>> up on many separate forms and hope the programmers put it back
>>> together. Or maybe they just meant "go away".
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 8 Deluxe Edition

2014-09-08 Thread Dick Nixon
You would think Legacy would be happy to get a well thoughtout report
like that, especially since the suggestions are so closely related.
But it is their way or the highway. Last year I offered a long list of
inconsistencies in various related reports...they only made sense if
they were considered together. I got the same message...split it all
up on many separate forms and hope the programmers put it back
together. Or maybe they just meant "go away".

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:
> Well done Allan.  Yes, forward these to Legacy.
>
>
>
> From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 10:05 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy
> Version 8 Deluxe Edition
>
>
>
> Greetings
>
>
>
> I am currently reviewing the Chronology Tab in Legacy Version 8.0.0.439
> Deluxe Edition and seek feedback on some suggested improvements I have,
> prior to submitting them:
>
>
>
> 1.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the text displayed in
> the Info column for son and daughters birth events, the text specifying the
> parents of the child should include a space on either side of the “and” ie
> it currently displays, for example,  “son of Thomas NorrisandJane Lambert.”
> Rather than “son of Thomas Norris and Jane Lambert.” (both Report Style and
> List Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 2.   In the Event column, the event labels “Son Born” and Daughter born”
> should be changed to “Birth of Son” and “Birth of Daughter” to be consistent
> with other “Birth of…” event labels (both Report Style and List Style and
> the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 3.   In the Event column, the event label “Death of Child” should be
> changed to “Death of Son” or “Death of Daughter” as appropriate to be
> consistent with separate identification of Son and daughter birth event
> labels (both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 4.   I would like the option to include the Events “Marriage of Son” and
> “Marriage of Daughter” in the Chronology view (both Report Style and List
> Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 5.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the “Display
> Options…” dialogue screen, “Include” tab, “Marriage Events” Section, the
> check box “Death of Husband” should be relabelled “Death of Spouse”
>
>
>
> 6.   The order of columns should, as a minimum, be made consistent
> between Report Style and List Style Views (currently event and date columns
> are swapped around between views). Ideally, the ability for the user to
> select their own preferred Column order would be best, but short of that, I
> think the following order the next best solution: “Date” “Age” “Event”
> “Info” (both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 7.   In the Age column, the displayed age should be Right Justified
> (both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 8.   In the Date column, when the “Display dates with year first”
> checkbox is “Unchecked”, the displayed date should be Right Justified so
> that the years of all events align to maximum extent possible (both Report
> Style and List Style and the Report itself)
>
>
>
> 9.   I would prefer the tilde “~” character to be removed from the
> calculated ages in the Age Columns (both Report Style and List Style and the
> Report itself). That the age may be an approximation based on a calculation
> can be implied from the dates recorded and hence the ~ is somewhat
> redundant.
>
>
>
> 10.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the
> Chronology view and then open the “Edit Event” dialog box. After viewing
> editing the event and closing the “Edit Event” dialog, the user would return
> to an updated Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be
> similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on
> ancestry.com, which I like.)
>
>
>
> 11.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the
> Chronology view and then open the “Assigned Sources” dialog box to display
> the assigned sources for the selected event. After viewing or editing the
> assigned sources and closing the “Assigned Sources” dialog, the user would
> return to the Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be
> similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on
> ancestry.com, which I like.)
>
>
>
> For your consideration
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Alan Thompson
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Quick Guides

2013-11-08 Thread Dick Nixon
Maybe Support can sort this.

Legacy sells pdf Quick Guides in their store and Geoff says some Quick
Guides are available for Kindle. I assume the Kindle versions will
only be sold by Amazon. Right?

MacEntee has a "New York Genealogy-A Legacy Quick Guide" in both
places but the Kindle version claims "about" 32 pages and. There are
only 4 pages in the pdf...but I think Amazon counts page flips. The
price difference is 4 cents.

So...do the pdf version and the Kindle version have the same content?

What is Legacy's plan for Quick Guides in the future...will they be
pdf, Kindle, both, some of each?

I know you can read both on any device, but it would be nice to read
and organize them in the same app.  Just saying.



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Re: [LegacyUG] "Legacy 8" Top 10 Feature Request

2013-06-25 Thread Dick Nixon
If wishes were horses.

All well and good to "wish" but if 8 is in beta or even close to it,
the features list was locked down months ago. Beta testing is usually
for bugs, stability and compatibility; it is not a request for new
improvements.



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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing social media (FB)

2013-05-09 Thread Dick Nixon
Of course anything off Facebook should probably have a surety level of 1. .



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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes associated with certain events

2013-03-19 Thread Dick Nixon
Ron,
You've hit on one of my major complaints with Legacy reporting. I
bring it up every year or so...there might be some more stuff in the
archives.

If you look at the Individual, Family Group, and Chronology reports
you will find numerous inconsistencies and issues. As you point out,
Chronology treats the big 4 (BBDM) pretty well, but the others
disconnect the notes and stuff them at the end. You could try to
create your own BBD events in the IR and FGS but they would double up
in the Chronology report. OK if you use only one or the other but not
a good solution.

If you dig in, you will find a lot of inconsistencies in these 3
reports.  Eg., the FGS automatically adds a blank line at the end of
each event note but the IR does not. If you add line feeds to make one
report look good, one or both of the others get worse.  Etc.

I had a list of 12 or 15 such related issues but support would only
agree to look a them if I put each one on a separate submission.  I
finally sent them to Geoff, his request, but he hasn't acknowledged
receipt.

So yes, I agree with you. These reports could be so much more useful
with a little work.  There may be historic reasons for the particular
FGS format, and compatibility concerns, but it would be easy to
generate additional versions of these reports that would be self
consistent.



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[LegacyUG] Quick Guides on the iPad

2013-02-01 Thread Dick Nixon
Sherry and I have looked at this and need more data.

I have several Quick Guides and the OnlineStateResoucesGuide DLed as
pdf's from Legacy.

OnlineState works on Adobe Reader, pdf complete, foxit reader
(Sherry)-all on the PC, and on iBooks on the iPad...by works I mean I
can read them AND open the links in Chrome or IE on the PC and Safari
on the iPad.

The Quick Guides display but do not open links on pdf complete (PC),
or on the iPad.  They do work on foxit reader and Adobe reader on the
PC.

**Has anyone put the Guides pdf's on iBooks and opened the links from
iBooks? Is so, any guidance on how you did it is welcome. From iTunes,
etc.?  Whatever?**

(Extra credit if you got Guides' links to open in pdf complete on a
PC. The 'pdf complete' support folks say not all pdf's are formatted
in the same way and recommend Adobe Reader if there is a problem!)

Could there be an issue with the pdf format that Legacy choose for the guides?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Dick Nixon
It seems pretty clear what a source is...where you found it etc.

But I think many get too hung up on the literal meaning of the words
"event" or "fact" ... as you can see in some of the above answers.

What is important is where information appears in your reports, how it
is formatted, and how useful it is to your purpose for creating the
reports in the first place. If an 'event' puts the info. you want
where you want it, go for it. I bet everyone has their own peculiar
'rules' for how they enter data in Legacy.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Immigration vs Emigration events, clarification please

2012-10-12 Thread Dick Nixon
>
> I have a family where the husband and wife were both born in Europe,

I think that both immigration and emigration involve the intent to
become a citizen, or at least a permanent resident, of the country
they went to. Otherwise it is travel and you can create a travel
event.  But they could have intended to really move each timethen
multiple imm. and/or em.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another problem -- sorry! -- with source list names in a new .gedcom

2012-10-05 Thread Dick Nixon
Come on supportget rid of this jerk. This thread has gotten way
beyond what you should allow in a user forum. I suspect a lot of us
are offended.

Dick Nixon



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Re: [LegacyUG] Census Data - Spreadsheet formats

2011-09-10 Thread Dick Nixon
The Gary Minder Census Tools are still available$15.00 on CD for
all 40 SS. Seems like a real bargain if you use Excel.

Dick Nixon


> checking into.  My friend uses it and says it works great.
> http://genscriber.com/
>
> On 9/10/2011 10:31 AM, Chris CG wrote:
>> I have found it very helpful to transcribe census information into
>> spreadsheet format.  I use a variation of the CensusTools spreadsheet
>> templates that Gary Minder used to offer for free.  Maybe someone can
>> suggest a source for similar forms to standardize and record census
>> data.


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Re: [LegacyUG] problem with gmail?

2011-09-07 Thread Dick Nixon
Me too. Three to five a month wind up in spam...and the label is
correct. Never enough that I tried to figure it out. gmail may have
some filter that doesn't like certain names?


On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Willard Ellis  wrote:
> I don't think you're alone on this one.  I also use gmail and on a few
> occasions an email from this group will go to my spam folder even
> though it is correctly labeled "Genealogy" and should go to that
> folder.
>
> I never bothered to check into this, so I can't tell you why this has 
> happened.
>
> Bill Ellis


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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual reports

2011-09-03 Thread Dick Nixon
as to ?1--

The individual report will (usually) contain the name of that
individual's parents, children, ..

if there are sources for any of those 'facts', eg. a parent's name has
a  source, those sources will be listed.  Info. about the parents or
kids not on the individual's report will not be sourced.

I think you may have inferred too much from the word
'individual'...the sources are for all facts used on the report, not
just the individual.

Dick Nixon



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Kathy Jones  wrote:
> Hello
>
>
>
> When I select an individual report and include the sourcing information I
> end up with sourcing from either the individual’s parents, wife/husband or
> children.  Not all the sourcing for the other individuals, but some of the
> sourcing.   Is there a way to correct this?
>
>
> Second question:  Is it possible to include pictures included in sourcing
> when printing reports?
>
>
> Kathy Jones


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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth - Marriage Records / Registers

2011-08-23 Thread Dick Nixon
> Precisely! A register is a finding tool for a record.
>
> --
Not quite the way I would say it.

In most municipalities here, the register comes first and is created
near the event, say a birth. (A primary record if you will). If you
request a Birth Certificate, they go to the register and copy from it
to a 'form' and then put a seal on it. I have seem numerous times
where a BC obtained one year has different information on it than one
obtained at another timeusually more or less info. but
occasionally different. The register doesn't find a record, it
generates it.

Dick Nixon
Amherst NH


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Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying "Customize Family View Information"

2011-08-05 Thread Dick Nixon
If you look in the archives, there are several discussions over the
years about how BBD and M are handled differently than the user
selected events. Some of us add those as user events and do not use
the 'standard' ones. This has more to do with how and where the
events, and their notes, appear in the family group sheet and other
reports.  They are not treated the same Or look closely at the
chronology report.it does a better job of placing them.

Dick Nixon

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> I'm not certain, but isn't it because born, died, buried are considered
> "standard" events and have been a part of the GEDCOM standard for many
> years?  Whereas the other things are not standard because they don't
> apply to everyone and you have to dry the line somewhere.    Not sure
> ab


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to update multiple source details?

2011-06-09 Thread Dick Nixon
This comes up a lot...and regularly. You can troll the archives for
much more discussion.

I believe your issue is the primary reason that the splitter/lumper
debate never ends. Count me as a splitter for this and other reasons.

The search and replace fix is an effective one in many cases, and I
was very happy when I learned of it some time ago...Ron I think.

If you go to the training videos, where an example is given using a
book as a Master Source and pages numbers for Detail, I think you will
realize that by definition (and design), the Detail is usually unique
to each citation that uses it and therefore Should be considered on a
one by one basis if changes are made.

For this and other recent threads (not you Kevin, you asked a
reasonable question)I think many LUG folks are way to quick to
yell "bug" or "programmer error" whenever they see something they
don't like or didn't do right in the first place.  Legacy does a good
job, very good for the price. They aren't going to change it for every
whim someone has.

dick

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Long  wrote:
> I often find additional information that I forgot on the source detail (not
> the master source definition), in particular, a picture or file.  Is there a
> way to update all citations of that source detail?


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Re: [LegacyUG] ISO ideas for recording history not specifically related to an individual?

2011-06-01 Thread Dick Nixon
Cathy-O's idea is very useful because events have a lot of
flexibility...you can name, sort, source them, etc. and they tend to
appear in "better" places in reports than the regular notes do. (See
recent discussions on using your own events for birth, baptism, and
death in order to get those notes in a more logical place.)

For Juliasuch events are just a more detailed way to do what could
have been done in General Notes. Your choice.

You can go a bit further than just "Misc. Notes". You could do an
event called "Willis Family History" that you can source and can
easily copy to any members of the family that you like (using the
clipboard of course).

But be aware that it is difficult or impossible to transfer Legacy
events to some other programs.  They often don't like the 'notes' part
of the event.

Dick

FYI--I think the OP meant 'In Search Of'  by ISO.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets (FGS)

2011-03-31 Thread Dick Nixon
Yes, thanks!

I have been thinking in that direction myself.  It does work pretty
well for individuals but, of course, doesn't address the family group
like a FGS does.

What else do you do with the chronology? Do you add new B, Bap, M, D,
Bur events, with notes, to be be consistent?  Adding them doesn't seem
to be really necessaryit finds them correctly.  How about
marriages...anything special?

Appreciate any more thoughts you have

Dick





On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Cathy-0  wrote:
> Rather than using the FGS, I have been using the timeline (a.k.a.
> Chronology) which places everthing in date order and can include the event
> notes as well.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets

2011-03-31 Thread Dick Nixon
Brett:

I was referring to the optional inclusion of data, like notes or
certain dates, not page formats. You are right about that.

But take a look at the report generated by the chronology tab...it is
'cleaner' as far as boxes and lines.  I am thinking that adding
certain events and using this report might solve some of my issues as
well.

Dick


> Hi Dick
>
> I would love to be able to change the style of the Legacy FGS, but
> reasonably happy with the content (fine tuning options would be good). The
> Legacy format has far too many lines and boxes - I have set a style for my
> records with pages with a line around, but otherwise "clean". Even with no
> border the Legacy FGS has lines everywhere (or have I missed the place where
> you can turn them off?)! It puts me off printing them.
>
> Cheers, Brett
> BMcL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets

2011-03-30 Thread Dick Nixon
Dennis,

As  you know, Family Group Sheets have been around forever, way before
computer genealogy; every program/web site seems to have them but they
are not really standard. Just look at the 3 formats offered by Legacy
and Legacy Charting Companion. Only Legacy seems to handle the event
notes at all (really well in my opinion). Roots Magic does use not.

>
> I know of no way to do that (short of adding duplicate b, m, d Events ...

Which I assume is the first step for people actually addressing my
issue in Legacy. As for Connie's need for 'simplicity', Legacy already
knows how to select what is and isn't included in a report in report
options. What the problem?

It would be so easy to do an optional format of the FGS that put
things in better order. And, wishingseparate the notes so they can
be individually selected/deselected and sourced.

Dennis...would a new FGS not be just another report on the DB?

Thanks to all who respondedkeep them coming.
Dick



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[LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets

2011-03-30 Thread Dick Nixon
The recent discussions on shared events prompt me to send a note I
have been holding for while..

Family Group Sheets / Individual Sheets

I tend to use FG sheets for most of my research and have some issues
with how they are laid out in Legacy. I wonder if anyone else has had
these issues and if they have a solutions or suggestions they would
share.

1.  Birth, baptism, and death are the big events in life and they are
prominently captured at the top of the sheet. But the notes for same
are stuck way at the end, after other events.   The standard
"events/facts"  that you add keep everything together...data and
notes.  I like the latter.  Seems odd that we do a better job on the
less important things. (The individual chronology report actually does
a better job of sorting, I think.)

Does anyone routinely use separate Events for B, B,and D so that they
print chronolgically with the rest of  the events?  Is there any
drawback to doing this (I haven't done much with the other reports
yet, or putting files on the web, so don't know what I may regret
later.) I have no problem with showing the birth date at the top of
the FGS and in the first event as well.

2.  In an individual report, the marriage data is buried with parent
data.  I would prefer to show the marriage as an individual event that
sorts chronolgically. I know it would repeat for both H and W in a
FGS.

But adding a new Marriage event would print in two event places on the
FGS, the standard Legacy marriage events in another after the wifes
events, and the marriage notes way at the end. This seems really odd
to me, but I may miss something.   Any better ideas?


3.  I guess the general question is "Joint events" like census for
husband and wifedo you repeat them in the FGS as individual
events, or let them print as marriage events, in a weird place, as
Legacy does.  Or is there another way?

 I know 3 has been discussed before, but if you have a better way to
do 1 and 2, I'd like to hear what you think on 3.

Perhaps someone has a Legacy "template" they would share, or can point
me to another generator of FGSs that I could export to.  Some other
programs seem to sort better but do not  handle event notes very well.

Appreciate your thoughts.

Dick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring a Family File

2011-01-31 Thread Dick Nixon
OK, I knew there were usr files but assumed they went into the zip. So
I dig them out of Legacy and manually save them?

Thanks Denniscan't believe I didn't know that.

rjn



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[LegacyUG] Restoring a Family File

2011-01-31 Thread Dick Nixon
As part of trouble-shooting a problem, tech support had me do a "reset
to defaults" on the main customization page. Of course I lost all my
settingstoolbar, colors, formating, etc.

I thought I could restore all my customization by doing a restore from
a backup zip I made this morning but the customization did not come
back. Was this a bad assumption? I have assumed for years that it
would be there if I ever needed it.

rjn



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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?

2010-10-13 Thread Dick Nixon
I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to
use the source detail and clipboards.

It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT,
once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data
base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a
typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one
place to see where they were used. This has greatly  influenced how I
record the census and other info., and how I approach
splitting/lumping.   Eg., I put the census info. in an event.

Dick

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Bruce Jones 
wrote: ..



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Re: [LegacyUG] The man crossed the road

2010-07-23 Thread Dick Nixon
I guess we aren't worried about the folks on dial-up anymore.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Test e-mails

2010-07-16 Thread Dick Nixon
Mike, that is a pretty narrow argument. Sure, some people have dial-up
or no Internet at all, and some are running Win3.1, have small discs,
and on and on. We all live with some economic trade offs. But it's
2010 and the norm for computer users is a fairly fast computer and
some sort of high speed IN. You can't expect to design for the lowest
common denominator. Some of the best features of Legacy pretty much
require a fast IN and we'd all be outraged if Legacy had not kept up
with the technology. (How about a snail mail LUG for those without any
 Internet?)  We even allow discussion of clever Access functions and
very few Legacy users are up for that.

But I think the real point isn't  the cost of an extra email, it's the
need that some people feel to "enforce" the rules, as they perceive
them, on everyone else. We've heard many times that this is an
unfriendly LUG, intimidating people and generally causing bad
feelings. I think we'd do better to give a little leeway to our fellow
Legacy users, many of whom are obviously new to Legacy or the LUG (and
may not even know about the archives.)   Sending a test message when
you are not sure if you are getting through to the group seems like a
pretty innocuous thing to do.

I think Millenia itself should do a better job of keeping people on
topic and enforcing the rules...if they feel the need... and
discourage the users from doing that. The LUG could then be a
friendlier place and more useful to ALL users.

(Guess I was bored today...my longest rant ever.)

Dick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Test e-mails

2010-07-16 Thread Dick Nixon
Obviously you won't get consensus on this group...but I vote for #3.
Some people take this LUG way too seriously...I bet they were hall
monitors in grammar school.  People come and go, have all levels of
experience, and share the use of Legacy.  So you get an extra email,
big deal.

Dick

> Certainly, the third alternative is that I should simply shut up and
> continue to hit delete as I see these messages come through.  If the
> group's consensus is this alternative, then I'll respectfully let the
> matter drop and say no more.
>



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