Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
Yes, I often think that citing the search criteria (such as first and last name and/or location ) is almost as good as citing according to traditional methods. I would be interested in hearing people's thoughts on this. Toni, Dundas, Ontario - Original Message - From: "Kathy Meyer" To: Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources Re "cite what you use" -- that's a good point because we are trying to reproduce what we did/where we obtained that particular bit of information. I agree Ancestry sometimes does not take you to the right page or cite the correct information but if I can reproduce how I got there, someone else should be able to do the same. And of course, if it is possible to get to the repository that's icing on the cake. Most of us use Ancestry.com because we are not able to get to those repositories. Kathy On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Connie Sheets wrote: > There are many errors in Ancestry's source information: wrong page > numbers, incomplete and/or inaccurate descriptions of the microfilm from > which they made the images (e.g. not telling you it was an FHL microfilm, > and/or giving the wrong microfilm number) etc. > > Best practice, IMO, is to *cite what you use.* If I use the "Missouri > Marriage Records, 1805-2002" database at Ancestry.com and I can determine > that the image is of Jasper Co. Marriage Book C, p. 152 (stamped) from > Missouri State Archives microfilm, but Ancestry does not provide a > microfilm number, that is what my citation will say. > > It would be nice if I could travel 1500 miles and use the original source, > but that is not going to happen any time soon. I would feel I was being > irresponsible, inaccurate, and deceptive if I did not mention Ancestry.com > (or other website/URL) in the citation. > > Most style guides differentiate both in content and format between an > entry in a bibliography and a source citation/footnote. It will vary with > the discipline, college professor, professional journal, etc. but it has > not been my experience that most research papers require only a > bibliography. > > In genealogy, at least in the US, the standard is to cite the source for > each statement of fact that is not common knowledge, not lump everything > together in a bibliography. So, I'm glad that Legacy now provides for both > source citations/footnotes AND bibliographies. > > Connie > > --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Vivien Martin wrote: > > Todd > If your only source for a particular fact is a > URL then I would not use it at all but find the real source behind the URL > and use it. If you are using for eg. Ancestry as a source then if you > actually have them detail the source( Ancestry does do that in Legacy if > you let it) the entire source is actually there except for the specific > repository. Most people I think are resourcefull enough if they wish to > check your research will find a repository for a source and go and look it > up themselves if it is that important to verify what you have written. > Research papers only require a bibliography not anything more and that is > all you are doing here. So write your source as you would a bibliography > for a research paper. > > OR > The North American and Canadian and British Genealogical societies and > written papers themselves on how to use the internet as source material. > Look up what they have decided is standard and go from there. > cheers > > Vivien > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Kathy Meyer "To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done." --Richard G. Scott, "Finding the Way Back," Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3147 - Release Date: 09/20/10 02:35:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] locations -usa
Thanks to all who replied. I will keep post codes/zip codes out of my location list. This has definitely helped me understand the difference between an address and a location. Toni Sano, Dundas, Ontario - Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] locations -usa I agree with you, Rich. Naturally our Post Codes (equivalent to Zip) are used by us for posting mail and maps will find places from them, but for use in a gazeteer of locations, which after all is what the location list is, it is pretty useless. Although it will identify a place down to a few houses when used in a city, the geographic area can be quite large in rural areas. Even worse the first part of the code, which specifies the post office area, can even cover more than one county. For example the prefix "SK" is Stockport, Cheshire, but it covers quite a bit of the High Peak District of Derbyshire. Ron Ferguson _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] locations -usa
For more recent events a zip code/post code is often provided. I am wondering where to put this. At first I was going to put it in the location field after state and before country ( I am doing some work on USA data at the moment). But then the reverse location list does not sort accurately. Thanks, Toni Sano, Dundas, Ontario Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events
Ron my event or any event LOL "but in any event take your pick!" Toni Sano, Dundas, Canada - Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events Rob Miller wrote: > While I clean up my Sources, I am also going back and creating Events > (something fairly new for me). > > If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas' > "Occupation" and "Residence" be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was > born), or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)? > > Which date do people enter into Events? > > > No. 185 > *1. When and where born: Twenty Eighth June 1868 / Campden > 2. Name, if any: Flora > 3. Sex: Girl > 4. Name and surname of father: Thomas Wilkes > 5. Name, surname and maiden surname of mother: Fanny Wilkes / > formerly Brotheridge > 6. Occupation of father: Farm Labourer > 7. Signature, description and residence of informant: Thomas Wilks / > Father / Campden > *8: When registered: Seventeenth July 1868 > > Thanks again!! > > Rob > > > Rob Miller > Toronto, ON Rob, Box 1 gives the date and place of birth, as stated in the box header. It is not necessarily the same as the family residence, although if not a hospital nor a nursing home, it is probable. However, Box 7 should confirm (unless they have moved house between the birth and registration. I would expect the informant to give their place of residence as being that at the time of registration. Box 6 poses an interesting question, and one which I have never asked myself. Strictly speaking it should be as at birth, although I can easily see the informant giving the current occupation. In this case it is unlikely to have changed, but in any event take your pick! Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2823 - Release Date: 04/20/10 08:45:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Date pages printed
I have also had this happen. I think the report list includes familly group record, descendants and printing of names from the name list. I hope this helps. Toni, Dundas, Ontario - Original Message - From: Tim Rosenlof To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date pages printed Boyd, Could you tell which reports you are using for the dates that are dropping out intermittently ? Thanks, Tim/Support On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Boyd Miller wrote: This works for a while then for some reason it drops out, even for other reports printed within the same day. I think there is an intermittent bug with this date box not remaining ticked The "Produced by Legacy" one does stay ticked. It has been this way since at least version 5. Has anyone found what triggers the unticking of this date box? Boyd : 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2820 - Release Date: 04/19/10 02:31:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
