Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
You can remove Picasa without losing any photographs. They work with any of your photos anywhere on your computer, but only show and organize them, never delete except at your command. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Cheri Moss [cmo...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, 05 January, 2015 04:17 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help some one but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the default location is for importing pictures. If Picasa is removed from her computer, will her pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help you can give me. Sorry for hijacking the thread. Cheri Sent from my iPad Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
None of the programs, that I know about, move your photos around or change anything unless you command them to do so. Photoshop is expensive, Paint Shop less so, Breezebrowser still less and Irfanvue and Picasa free. Irfanvue is more direct and immediately learnable than Picasa. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: CE WOOD [wood...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, 05 January, 2015 07:50 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs If you use Photoshop, look at LightRoom, also by Adobe which is what professional photographers use. It leaves everything on your computer, but allows you to create myriad albums of using the any of your photos, even if they are already in another LightRoom album, without ever moving them from where they are on your computer. Of course, all the metadata, captioning, etc, too. CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
I usually use Paint Shop, but the free Irfanvue does as well. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Pat Hickin [pph...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 04 January, 2015 08:43 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs So how does one do that?? Pat On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth rfolke...@sbcglobal.net wrote: GREETINGS, ALL I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata. Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in the metadata. Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection of photographs). Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing you may do !!! DICK FOLKERTH Dallas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Build 8.0.0.454 Conflict With Another Program
Roxio has a long history of thefts of other programs resources. I'm surprised they are still in business. They are also unlikely to help you fix the problem other than to say Legacy or other programs should be removed. Nero is a better burner and also some good free burners--IF you can get rid of all Roxio's stuff. Of MS Answers advice, transferring to a new user setup seems bestl--but without Roxio. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: William Boswell [whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2014 07:07 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Build 8.0.0.454 Conflict With Another Program I tried Microsoft's solution and it didn't work. It only asks to install or uninstall. I don't want to do either. It's already installed and I want to keep it. I just want to get Roxio to stop wanting to reconfigure every time I open Legacy. Bill -Original Message- From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:38 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Build 8.0.0.454 Conflict With Another Program Try this one http://support2.microsoft.com/mats/program_install_and_uninstall Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Deluxe slow or not responding
Microsoft advises against using any registry cleaner including CC. Says the clutter is harmless while the cleaners cause real problems. Of course, who among us has ever trusted anything MS says. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2014 10:13 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Deluxe slow or not responding How big is your file (how many individuals)? Which version of Windows do you have? How much RAM (memory)? Have you done File File Maintenance Check/Repair and Compact Family File? (Backup First!) Have you been maintaining your computer with defragging and running a registry cleaner such as CClean to remove the junk that accumulates on your computer? Do you have any other programs running in the background that are memory hogs? I've run some really large files in Legacy and haven't had any problems with lag... Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:43 PM, June wrote: Since I updated Legacy 8 I have found that it is really really slow and 2 out of 3 times it says not responding, although if I leave it, it eventually opens or closes. I have no issues with other programmes and so wonder what I could try to resolve this. Thank you June Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox
I don't use Dropbox for Legacy, but I do use it for Zoot XT, an information processor. The solution there is to set up a dummy folder on each computer for Zoot to save to as well as it's own folder databases. Then the dummy folder is put on Dropbox. What is saved to Zoot is smart foldered to the dummy. Dropbox syncs then only with the dummy folder, affecting the live Zoot folders/databases only after syncing is complete. Zoot XT is a set of very flexible smart databases on a stable engine Legacy developers might take a look at. My Legacy has only about 1400 records so easy to back up when doing regular drive backups, but for Bob's or other's much larger number of records it would be much faster and safer to backup just Legacy to Dropbox and forget syncing. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2014 11:02 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox My suggestion would be to back up to the hard drive or your external backup drive when you're finished working in the file. I've not had any problems with working in Dropbox but then I'm the only one who can access my file there. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Bob Austen wrote: Hi Ron, I totally agree about not having the live file on the Cloud. I have only a copy of my legacy file on Dropbox. I do have the larger .fdb file on Dropbox and then I can simply copy my Legacy file to my Dropbox folder for a backup at any time, even with the file open on Legacy. That takes about 5 seconds to copy (2+ hours to sync!), so I will do that before attempting anything other than data entry on Legacy - much quicker than using Legacy's backup feature. Of course one could do that type of backup to any other folder on their computer. It seems that many do have there working/live files on Dropbox, I hope they keep a very up to date copy on their own computer. Bob From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:22 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox It is not advisable to have your live file in Dropbox or Google Drive or any of the other cloud based storage systems. What you can do reliably is to place the zipped backup files in the cloud drive and then restore the file as needed on another computer from the cloud storage. Using the live file on a cloud device requires a method to insure that the file has been sync'ed completely before accessing it. With a zip file, it will not open unless it is intact so a partial zip file should not open. Side benefit is that the zipped files will be smaller than the live database and the other associated files that Legacy uses. I agree with other comments that the problem is not with differences between Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8. I regularly use my Legacy data on all those Windows versions without any problems and move the database by placing the zip backup files in Google Drive. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates
First re-install 7 to get an INSTALL.LOG file back, then go to the program file and find unwise.exe and click on it. Then do what Michelle says. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Ray Rhoads [rhodo...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2014 10:28 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates I have loaded Legacy8 Deluxe from disk to a laptop for use in an upcoming genealogy trip. The problem is it will not download the the updates from the original build. It will not let me transfer my file from my desktop saying the file is for a later build. To top it off I can not completely uninstall the program as I get the message “could not find INSTALL.LOG file”. What do I do to get this fixed? I am using Windows 7 on both my desktop and laptop. Ray Rhoads Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates
Cathy is correct. I mistook the Win7 for Legacy 7 and tech support suggested 7.5. But the point is he now seems to have a Legacy8 program he can't uninstall for a missing INSTALL.LOG. Usually when you get this you can't get a clean install of 8 even if it does provide the install.log to uninstall it Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Cathy Pinner [genea...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2014 08:23 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates Ray, I understand you are using Legacy 8 and have installed it on both computers from a disc. It sounds as if you have updated the program on the desktop but you haven't updated it on the laptop. Therefore when you try to open your family file on the laptop, you are getting a message saying you need a later build. Update the program on the laptop (either from the Home Tab OR by downloading the Standard version from the website and running it) and your problem should be over. Note although you download the Standard Free version from the website, it is the same installation file for the Deluxe. The difference is that the Customer Number unlocks more features. I'm not sure why people were telling you to install Legacy 7. Confused I think by you saying that both computers were running Windows 7. Cathy grayscot2 wrote: First re-install 7 to get an INSTALL.LOG file back, then go to the program file and find unwise.exe and click on it. Then do what Michelle says. Presc ott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Ray Rhoads [rhodo...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2014 10:28 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates I have loaded Legacy8 Deluxe from disk to a laptop for use in an upcoming genealogy trip. The problem is it will not download the the updates from the original build. It will not let me transfer my file from my desktop saying the file is for a later build. To top it off I can not completely uninstall the program as I get the message “could not find INSTALL.LOG file”. What do I do to get this fixed? I am using Windows 7 on both my desktop and laptop. Ray Rhoads . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 uninstall fails
This is a problem common to many of us, whatever the source. So I'll try to be helpful and not just suggest that it is somehow your fault, Stanley. Don't try any brute force uninstalls. You'll only leave junk in your registry. You need that install.log, so install Legacy 8 again. Then instead of relying on the uninstall in the control panel, go to the Legacy 8 program file probably in C:\program files (86)\Legacy 8 and click on unwise.exe. It should uninstall at that point. Now you should be able to be able to install it and bypass suggestions that it might not have installed. It is a good program once you get past a few hurdles. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com -Original Message- From: Stanley Mitchell [mailto:llehctim...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:42 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com; legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 uninstall fails Hi all, A few days ago I reported the problems I was having with the update to 8.0.0.427 on this machine (Win7-x64). Today I tried uninstalling Legacy8 using control panel. Again I see a Windows error from the Program Compatibility Assistant, and I selected the option to use recommended settings. But the program did not uninstall - it remains listed in Programs and Features. When I try to uninstall it again, there is a message box which says Could not open INSTALL.LOG file from Wise Uninstall. I've done brute force removals of applications before, so I will be able to clean up my system. I had high hopes for version 8, but my experience leaves me dismayed and disappointed. -Stan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] importing from Ancestry
Having downloaded it to Family Tree Maker, can you then import it into Legacy 8? Or do you have to ged.com it from there losing all sources/media? From: Ann Brown [cookiebrow...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 05 April, 2014 09:52 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] importing from Ancestry thank you both for that information. I was just about to download all that info. Yuck... I wish I could use this program On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote: Ann, Other than Family Tree Maker (owned by Ancestry.com) you wont find a program that can accept a download from Ancestry. Regardless of which program you use, you will only be able to import a GEDCOM from Ancestry. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Ann Brown cookiebrow...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning everyone, I am brand new to Legacy, having just downloaded the free version to practice with. I have been using RootsMagic for 10 years. I want to import my Ancestry tree to my computer with the photos and copies of the documents that I have attached to my people. Is that possible with Legacy? I have read most of the info but nothing is mentioned about Ancestry ...just FamilyTree and familysearch. Can someone give some advice. I am in the market for a product that will do this and since Legacy is #1 I would hope it would do this. I have also thought about another product as well. Thanking you in advance. Ann Brown Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Ann Brown Cookie Researching NY for Cook, Ogden, Drake, Wallace; Brooklyn, NY ...Cash, Benedicks, Lynch Dilton O'Brien Corona, Stella, NJ for Cook, Wallace, Stinson, Bennett, Rusling, Berry, MD. for Smith, Owens, Crew; Pa and Ct. for Wallace, Newman, Sanford, Dimmick, Cross Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] where to store images
That's a great help, Wes, many thanks. Pres --- Sorry about the confusion with the path names. Apparently my tabbing didn't work as I thought it would. The directory structure is \Genealogy \Genealogy\Documents\ \Genealogy\Documents\FamilyName\ \Genealogy\Documents\FamilyName\FirstName (BirthYear) - if needed. The longest pathname would be 45 characters if I can count right. The max is supposed to be 256. Doing this allows me to keep all relevant documents and photos in a way that I can instantly find them. That last line is the longest you will have. For my own reasons, I duplicate the structure for Legacy use. I could simply point to the Genealogy folder in Legacy, but I keep a lot of documents that do not necessarily need to be used as source material. They are there to provide additional historical information. Since I was a history major in college, I tend to keep things that others might find insignificant for their purpose. In the Legacy PHOTO structure, I only keep the WEB sized JPG's of my photo's. For the most part, I scan a photo to a TIFF file. This is in the \Genealogy\Photo\ area. I then use Photoshop Elements to add info to the IPTC data. This is just like writing on the back of a picture. I then save this twice. Once as the standard TIFF file, then once with a -EDIT after the name. The first file is never, ever, touched. The second file is used for any editing that is needed and saved as a final TIFF file. Once all that is done, I will save it as JPG. This file is still rather large but will be OK to email to someone else. I will then crop the photo to a head shot or something similar and SAVE for WEB. This allows me to take a 1.2 mb file and reduce it to about 350-450 k. This is what gets stored in the Legacy photo file and, eventually, to the web. For my backups, I use COBIAN to backup both the Genealogy Directory and the Legacy directory, Each goes to a different external hard drive. Once a week, I take an image copy of those hard drives. Of course, I do a standard backup of my database every time I shut down Legacy. Other people have vastly different ways of doing things. This is just the scheme I worked out years ago when God was a child and I was still in knee pants. My first software package was Brothers Keeper on a DOS machine with 2 floppy drives. I hope this helps with your thinking. There are as many ways to organize as there are people. In the end, it is what works for you that really matters. Oh, if you haven't guessed, I'm a belt and suspenders guy. Wes --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] where to store images
From: Wes [wes...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 04 April, 2014 04:57 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] where to store images On 03-Apr-2014 3:30 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote: I need to reconnect a bunch of images; they were never saved in the Legacy images file, always on my computer and I would just browse for I would love some input so I can get everything cleaned up properly. [Snip] Thanks, Kathy Kathy Meyer snip I use a directory structure for my images, one for photos an one for documents. I actually use two identical structures; one for permanent storage and one for use with legacy. Not every document nor every photo is used within Legacy. So - \Genealogy \Documents \FamilyName \Photos \FamilyName \LegacyData \Documents \FamilyName \Photos \FamilyName In the Legacy Photos directory I store only WEB format JPG files. These are usually never more than 450K. I keep my originals in the GENEALOGY set as TIFF format. One reason I don't use the Media Center gathering tool is that even in reduced format, my Legacy Photos take nearly 3GB. If copied to a single directory I would now have 6 GB out of my precious HD space. My LegacyData directory is on its own 300 GB drive. I do an image copy of this drive once a week. I do a backup of the working database every time I close legacy. This goes to Dropbox. Wes --- I'm just setting up a media directory and can't imagine the amount of time it must take to find a .jpg in one large folder, but equally can't imagine how you avoid exceeding path limits with sub-folders on the one hand or work with folders for each family in one long directory of peer folders. Wes, are those peer folders or are the FamilyNamefolders you list child or sub-folders under LegacyData? They must be peer folders or the paths would be too long but sounds like that would be a long directory with all the FamilyNames you must have and take a long time scrolling to file one or another set. And why not keep the \Geneology originals in name subfolders on your main hard drive or an external one if you don't have the space on a hard drive--both backed up just as you do now. Pres --- presku...@yahoo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Issue with text copied from Onenote 2013 to Legacy
Also Zoot for all around organizing, stable, random note database plus. http://www.zootsoftware.com From: Ron Bernier [ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net] Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2014 11:28 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Issue with text copied from Onenote 2013 to Legacy Chris, I appreciate the link. Like the author, I use both Onenote and Evernote. I do find Onenote to be a far superior program as I am more interested in organizing than I am in clipping. There is another well-know genealogy program who's text editor accepts notes from Onenote without any issues. They have an option to strip all formatting from pasted text. Since Legacy is by far a superior program, I have no doubt that the Legacy programmers could redo their text editor to work the same way. In my opinion, Onenote is the best note organizing program and Legacy is the best genealogy program. I prefer using the best, not the second best so I am hoping that the Legacy folks can fix this issue. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Chris Seens cseens1...@gmail.com wrote: One Note and Evernote are two different beasts and work completely differently. That you can copy one note text into MSWord and then into Legacy should not be a surprise as both products are from Microsoft. You must remember that Legacy is a database product not a word processor. Databases do not like the special characters used in word processors. In my IT days, people used to copy directly from MSWord into the database causing huge cleanup costs before we knew better. Below is a link which describes the differences between the OneNote and Evernote products. http://www.techworld.com.au/article/541104/onenote_vs_evernote_personal_take_two_great_note-taking_apps/?fp=16fpid=1 Have a great day. Chris Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote: I have been using both Evernote and Onenote to create a transcription of census information. I then copy portions of that transcription to individual event notes in Legacy. If I copy the information from Evernote and paste into Legacy, there is no problem (the information copied is editable text as it should be). If I copy the same information from Onenote and paste into Legacy it is not editable text, it pastes as an image. I can copy that same text from Onenote and paste into a word document, an email etc., and it is editable text. Therefore, the problem does seem to be specific to Legacy and the way it is handling the formatting. I find Onenote to be far superior to Evernote, therefore I would like to find a viable solution to being able to paste text from Onenote into Legacy. I am using Legacy8, but the problem also existed in Legacy7. I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has found a solution for this problem. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Best way to rename pdf files used within Legacy?
Caution other newbies: Use Brian's URL or download from responsible site like CNET, File Forum. Don't choose advertised at the top of google list or you get dated Irfanview and bundled malware/nuisance ware from Software Watcher/Conduit. From: Brian/Support [br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Monday, 03 March, 2014 09:37 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Best way to rename pdf files used within Legacy? According to the Irfanview home page http://www.irfanview.com/ it is a Windows program. No mention of any other platforms. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 03 Mar 2014 9:59 AM, Jane Sarles wrote: Do either of these work with Ipad? Jane On 3/2/2014 6:35 PM, Bob Austen wrote: On 02/03/2014 17:21, Dave Naylor wrote: The basic IrfanView will open PDF files. However, I just discovered there's a bug in that IrfanView doesn't display PDFs within the Open File dialogue. It does for me, version 4.37. I didn't have this plug-in before... thanks, it's great. Bob A --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II
Many thanks to Kurt, Bob, Christine and Cheryl for all the pointers. I'll have to look into tags, avoid gedcoms and try other ideas here, but it looks a little more possible now. Appreciate the prompt and thoughful replies. - Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com From: Bob Austen [rgaus...@telus.net] Sent: Tuesday, 25 February, 2014 11:33 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II I hope you don't mind my joining this thread. Though not really a one name study, I have a reasonably large file and have not done a 'merge' of a new file for some time now, for the very reason that you have found. A cousin and I work together on our tree and we regularly exchange complete updated files. We tag each new addition or change then, when I receive the updated file, I do not try to merge it, but look for the tagged names and enter the new information. I also receive other files/trees in other formats. This is my method for merging, remembering that everyone finds their own style. 1. Create a new Legacy file from the updated gedcom and tag everyone. (In my file exchange with my cousin the names are already tagged.) This also allows me to clean up the file or edit it before merging. 2. Open your main file in Legacy and the new file using Split Screen (I have them side by side) 3. Look for common names then copy the updated/new information to the main file. I do this one by one, family by family, or the complete descendant line if I have a common person. You can also drag the person/family/descendant line to the main file. 4. Untag those copied/merged. This can be done in the new file just prior to the copy/merge to save you from untagging in both files. If you have the tag showing in your index it is easy to look to see which are not yet merged. 5. Continue until you have no more names tagged in your new file. You can stop/start, compare names/lines side by side, at any time and much easier than the Legacy merge window. This allows me to update tags that I use for certain lines and I can also set the privacy settings, if needed, as I go. I primarily copy descendant lines as there is less likelihood of another connection. I will scan through the descendants and may compare the names to my main file before the merge. If I have ancestors of, say, a new wife, I will be brave and copy her ancestors in the same fashion. My file also has many names that are the same. I have not used the 'Merge Duplicates' feature for a few years, perhaps it has matured to where it is more reliable. I do find that I still end up with some duplicates, or are they there from earlier work? I feel my work is too valuable to mess up by merging a bunch of incorrect, though common, names. Legacy's new feature in V8 of showing possible duplicates after entering a new person is very welcomed, but I do get a lot that are not really duplicates. Hope this will give you some new ideas. Bob A -Original Message- From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:59 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II I'm trying to trace families in 17th 18th Century Scotland where the names in each are James, William, John, Robert, so I have picked up a lot of unrelated individuals in hopes of eventually sorting them into families. When I try to merge an updated gedcom with the original unrelated tree, I get hundreds of duplicates of course which Legacy 8 Deluxe insists I sort out. Even though it would take a lot of time to do that manually, I'd be willing to do that, except that it is impossible because there is no way to decide which are the duplicates before I've made most connections. What do you do about them in your single surname study? I'm using Legacy 8 Deluxe, latest version, Win7 64bit. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II
I'm trying to trace families in 17th 18th Century Scotland where the names in each are James, William, John, Robert, so I have picked up a lot of unrelated individuals in hopes of eventually sorting them into families. When I try to merge an updated gedcom with the original unrelated tree, I get hundreds of duplicates of course which Legacy 8 Deluxe insists I sort out. Even though it would take a lot of time to do that manually, I'd be willing to do that, except that it is impossible because there is no way to decide which are the duplicates before I've made most connections. What do you do about them in your single surname study? I'm using Legacy 8 Deluxe, latest version, Win7 64bit. From: Kurt Kneeland [kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, 25 February, 2014 03:38 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II I have a one-name database of sorts. I’m compiling everything I can find on Kneeland’s. However, I also include all my cousins (of any surname) and all descendants of any Kneeland regardless of surname. I currently have 2 primary lines – descendants of Edward Nealand/Kneeland of Ipswich and the descendants of John Kneeland of Boston. I use Tag 1 and Tag 2 to mark these lines. I also have 30 or so lines of descent from Kneeland Irish immigrants of the 1800’s that I group under Tag 3. And also several African-American Kneeland lines and a variety of undetermined/unattached lines that I don’t have tagged, but could except that I’m using my other tags for other purposes. Another tool that would appear to apply but that I haven’t really explored yet is the Tree Finder tool (View - Trees). From: Poppke Genealogy [mailto:ad...@poppkegenealogy.com] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:12 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Single Surname Study II Mary, Ron, Thanks for the quick reply. I'm new to this software and don't fully understand the best way to do things yet. In Legacy Deluxe 8.0, I tag unrelated individuals and then create a search for that tag in the Name List. I'm currently experimenting with adding fields to the 2nd and 3rd lines of List Report Options to get a format I like. I think this will give me enough information - Names, birth, death, etc. - to be able to screen for new individuals or relationships while away from my computer in a library. Since Legacy is a computer (as opposed to server based, I haven't tried DropBox yet) based program, I'd like to have printed material to refer to on trips to libraries to aid in research. I will look at the Event reports also. Is there a way to print multiple Individual Reports at once, using tags? Thanks, Ted -- Hello, I'm using Legacy Deluxe 8.0. Is there a best practice to organize dozens to hundreds of unrelated individuals as part of a single surname study? I'm guessing advanced tagging? Can I get decent reports? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Updating to 381 Uninstalling/Reinstalling
How is the update to be handled? Unistall before re-installing or can it be installed on top of the existing? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File ID's
Alan, When I tried to import an Ancestry gedcom into Legacy 7.5, it was indicated that all sources would be stripped out. Is that still the case with L8? Pres --- Prescott Smithgraysc...@gmail.com From: Alan Thompson [alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 12 January, 2014 03:25 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File ID's Kathy For you information, the “1,7884::30370810” number, and its like, typically come from a gedcom file exported from an ancestry.com family tree. This number is ancestry’s way of linking an individual’s event in an ancestry family tree to the source record in ancestry.com’s databases. The “7884” represents the particular database (in this case the 1910 United States Federal Census) and the number after the :: represents the individual record within that database. When you export a gedcom from ancestry.com the record will look something like this: 1 RESI 2 DATE 1963 2 PLAC Mooroopna North, Victoria, Australia 2 SOUR @S-411220237@ 3 _APID 1,1207::90856601 When you then import that record into Legacy, Legacy places the _APID number into the FilingRef field in the tblSX (Source Detail) table which is then displayed as theFile ID in the Source Detail Screen. Interestingly, and usefully (at least for me), if you export a gedcom file from Legacy which contains these _APID numbers in the FilingRef field, and then import that gedcom (after some minimal and simple manual editing) into a family tree in ancestry.com, ancestry will automatically re-establish the links to the relevant source database and individual record. I hope this helps. Alan Thompson From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 6:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's yes - every single File ID is along the lines of 1,7884::30370810 - with different numbers after the 1, it makes no sense, I have no files with those or similar names Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Is it possible to switch from IE to Firefox?
Does Legacy 8 have any problem with using Chrome or Opera 12.16 as default browsers? From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Monday, 06 January, 2014 01:59 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is it possible to switch from IE to Firefox? Links through the Legacy Home tab will default to IE if it doesn't run in the Legacy browser. Legacy uses low-level IE functions for links in the Legacy Home tab. You can change default browser in Legacy in Options Customize Launch, but that doesn't affect the Legacy Home tab. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Sally Smith sesmith...@comcast.net wrote: Is it possible to switch browsers from Internet Explorer to Firefox in Legacy 8? When I clicked on Watch Webinar it took me to IE; however, I would prefer to use Firefox. Archived messages indicate that the earlier version of Legacy used only IE. Is this still the case or is there a way now to change it to Firefox? Thanks Sally --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt
That all sounds very responsible, but though our forebears probably were better at calculating ages for days, months and years, without computers, how accurate and conscientious were they? No doubt that is allowed for in the term, calculated, but it's still our guestimate that they had the information and were rigorous in their calculation. Calculated - determined or ascertained by mathematical methods. Example: A Birth Date determined from a Date of Death and an Age at Death given in years, months and days using the date calculator. arry Lee --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Help
The online Support offers this advice on uninstalling: -- 2. Or, open the Start menu and go to the list of all programs on your computer. Open the Legacy 8.0 folder and click on Uninstall Legacy 8.0. 3. Or, optionally you can browse to C:\Program Files\Legacy8\RemoveLegacy.exe and run the uninstall tool. Source: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00677/12/Install-Uninstall/How-do-I-uninstall-Legacy-Family-Tree-8.0.html -- On the StartAll programsLegacy 8 listing, there is no folder, only the shortcut to start the program, on my machine. If that's everyone else's experience, this should be changed. But the alternative suggestion, 3.--if you aren't missing the install.log--works well. The Control Panel route sometimes fails, erasing the install.log. If it does, re-install, and follow 3. above. --- Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading
If you were still dependent on W2K for many programs, you'd know why that is a bad thing. From: singh...@erols.com Sent: Friday, 27 December, 2013 11:00 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading Karen and Jim wrote: BTW I think M$ support for Windoz XP stops in March 1914. Somebody remind me -- why is that a bad thing? (G) Cheryl S --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages
I'd like to up the count for including provisions for same sex marriage, significant others, poly-amorous, etc. But also, switching to a different underlying database program. Anything so fragile as to need constant check/repairs is far too fragile. I've used Dbase3, Visual Fox Pro and a number of free-form databases that never required this. Zoot for instance is a free-form database PIM that is arguably just as complex or moreso than Legacy, but I've never had to check or repair its many separate smart databases, and in 20 years, through disk failures, crashes, and power failures/surges that burnt out everything else, cloud sync failures, have never lost an item. So if you have to re-do the program anyway--and with Utah going same-sex marriage, you will surely have to--get a stabler database/file system. Pres -- Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 December, 2013 12:22 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages We are keeping count somewhat, but as Leonard wrote quoting Ken, it's a major ripping apart of the basic design of Legacy and would be very time consuming for the programmers. Not only would they have to restructure Legacy, they would also have to re-code all the other options based on the restructuring - not to mention the trickle-down for all the add-on programs. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote: Most two-sex marriages these days aren't life-long either, though. My not needing the ability to add same-sex relationships doesn't mean someone else won't need it, and I can always not-use it if it's there. If someone's keeping count, here's a it might be a nice option vote. Cheryl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single Double
Not here. First thing I always do with a Windows OS is turn off the dam double-click. Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com From: 2marion wimps [2wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 07:00 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single Double Three On 21 December 2013 20:55, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks C. G. That makes 2 of us. Anybody else? Larry Lee On Dec 21, 2013 3:45 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: Exactly! “I just wish it would work the standard way it does in most Windows programs.“ … --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Research Freezes
On going to Resarch and clicking on Preliminary Survey, the sources for this and the suggested sources are given numbers, but the program freezes. It can be closed only by the X in the tray preview in Win 7. Version 366. The rest of the program seems working OK until I click on the Preliminary Survey. It does it on another file as well, yet I'm sure I got past this point with an earlier version and had a number of interesting sources to look at. Has anyone else experienced this or guess what might be causing it? -- Prescott Smithgraysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Research Freezes
No, I haven't. New to Legacy but remember other program's file repairs that ended badly. There isn't much to these two files--no sources, no media. Other than file conversion to L8 from L7, there hasn't yet been much editing or anything else. Why don't you see a problem in this behavior? From: Jay 1FamilyTree [1familytree@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:35 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Freezes I have no problem with what you describe. Have you tried doing a file maintenance check repair? On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: On going to Resarch and clicking on Preliminary Survey, the sources for this and the suggested sources are given numbers, but the program freezes. It can be closed only by the X in the tray preview in Win 7. Version 366. The rest of the program seems working OK until I click on the Preliminary Survey. It does it on another file as well, yet I'm sure I got past this point with an earlier version and had a number of interesting sources to look at. Has anyone else experienced this or guess what might be causing it? -- Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Research Freezes
Alt - tab pops up so Notepad items I have in the tray but were not behind the program. I just start the program, go to Research and first click I make locks it up. This is after I have put it through File check, Repair, list and compact with nothing in the log or any complaints other than a half-dozen sentence changes in Events. I've used Fox Pro and Visual Fox Pro and DB3 databases and never had to check, repair those unless major corruption had occurred and then you were pretty much out of luck anyway. But I'll take your word for Access and I'll check with support. Thank you. From: Cathy Pinner [genea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:09 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Freezes There is a problem with anything causing a freeze. I haven't seen this freezing myself and I think that's what Jay is saying - they didn't see the freeze either. The program can sometimes appear to freeze because a secondary window has opened behind instead of in front of the primary window. Using Alt + Tab to cycle through open programs stopping when you get back to Legacy can cure this as the hidden window comes to the front. Re File Maintenance in Legacy. The Legacy database is a Microsoft Access database. These databases need regular maintenance. You do that from the File Ribbon - File Maintenance - Check/Repair. You need to do it regularly or you will have problems. It's not the cure for all ills but it cures a lot. For this sort of freezing issue if Alt + Tab doesn't solve it are probably best taken direct to Support. Cathy At 01:46 PM 20/12/2013, you wrote: No, I haven't. New to Legacy but remember other program's file repairs that ended badly. There isn't much to these two files--no sources, no media. Other than file conversion to L8 from L7, there hasn't yet been much editing or anything else. Why don't you see a problem in this behavior? From: Jay 1FamilyTree [1familytree@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:35 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Freezes I have no problem with what you describe. Have you tried doing a file maintenance check repair? On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote:     On going to Resarch and clicking on Preliminary Survey, the sources for this and the suggested sources are given numbers, but the program freezes.  It can be closed only by the X in the tray preview in Win 7.  Version 366.  The rest of the program seems working OK until I click on the Preliminary Survey.     It does it on another file as well, yet I'm sure I got past this point with an earlier version and had a number of interesting sources to look at.     Has anyone else experienced this or guess what might be causing it? -- Prescott Smith                 graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 can't find the newly installed Geo Database - Fixed now
What was the MS kb? Or under what heading in support page? From: Dave [famho...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 01:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 can't find the newly installed Geo Database - Fixed now Disregard, I fixed my problem. I was getting errors when doing three things – check/repair, installing the GeoDb and doing a search using FamilySearch. I did some reading in the support page and found a link to a Microsoft kb that had a fix for a bad or corrupt registry entry. I tried it and it fixed all three problems. Dave Pointer -- It didn’t fix my problem with the Geo Database. During its installation it stops with the message “error creating geo indexes”. Dave Pointer --- The new update we just posted should fix the problem that a couple of you have seen where Legacy is unable to find the GeoDB.gdb even though you have downloaded and installed the new one. If you are one of the people who have had this error please: 1. Download and isntall the Geo Database again from this page: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/GeoDBDownload.asp 2. Then download and install the new Legacy update. Thanks, Ken McGinnis Millennia Corporation kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TRUST REGAINED YET?
When I move to research, everything is fine--I can go back to any other view, etc--but the moment I click on #1 Timeline, the program freezes and I can only exit by clicking on the x in Win 7's tray preview. It may be that there is little to make a timeline of but a number of sources are recorded for preview and research on the main Research window. Yet on an earlier version I was able to use this and reveal the suggested sources. I'm now using 366. Other things seem to be working fine. Anyone experiencing this? Pres ps: I'm not getting any red or spam messages on gmail. Never have. Must depend on your AV, mail program or ISP. - Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5
Judith, You have to have an install.log to get it uninstalled. The only way I know to get it is to re-install 7.5, then go to the program folder, check to see that is there and click unwise.exe. If you are given options to uninstall--auto or custom, choose custom and ok each further uninstall option. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Judith [judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Sherry, Thank you for responding. I now have Legacy8 and would just like to uninstall Legacy 7.5. As mentioned, the start menu does not have any subfolders under the Legacy program folder, so no uninstall link is there. In c:Legacy folder on my hard drive, I have tried the uninstall and get the message ‘INSTALL.LOG.FILE.missing. I went through the instructions on-line at Legacyfamilytree. There is an uninstaller I can download from another source, I was hoping there was a solution from Legacy. Judith From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Legacy v7.5 is actually an upgrade to v7 so you should have only that version on your computer. Go to Start menu All Programs and use the uninstall in the Legacy folder there. You should have a folder. If it's not there, then Legacy has already been uninstalled, although the uninstall does retain the c;\Legacy folder to protect your data. There's also an uninstall option in the c:\Legacy folder on your hard drive, as long as Legacy hasn't already been uninstalled. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Judith judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com wrote: I want to uninstall Legacy 7 and 7.5 from my computer. I have gone to the LegacyFamilyTree site, to troubleshoot, categories, Install/Uninstall and followed the directions, but it doesn’t uninstall, I keep getting the error message ‘INSTALL.LOG.FILE. missing. I went to step 2, and deleted the Legacy.exe, still no luck. I went to Windows 7 Control Panel, Uninstall, it’s not listed. I went to ‘All Programs’, Legacy to see if there was a drop down folder attached, there is no drop down folder, it only opens the program. Do I have to use a 3rd party uninstall tool? Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5
Judith, My experience with manual deletions and then trying to clean the registry has not been good. If you still have 7.4 or can get it from Legacy, I would follow the same route you just did. Maybe even if you have to re-install Legacy 7 over it to get the install.log file back. - Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Judith [judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 01:00 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 I reinstalled Legacy 7, and was able to uninstall it. However, I still have Legacy 7.4 in my C:drive with no INSTALL.LOG.FILE, is there a solution. If I delete it all, all the files under Legacy in the C:drive and then clean the registry, would that do it? Or can I manually delete the Legacy registry files. I don't want to mess up legacy 8, but I can reinstall that if needed. Judith -Original Message- From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 5:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Judith, You have to have an install.log to get it uninstalled. The only way I know to get it is to re-install 7.5, then go to the program folder, check to see that is there and click unwise.exe. If you are given options to uninstall--auto or custom, choose custom and ok each further uninstall option. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Judith [judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Sherry, Thank you for responding. I now have Legacy8 and would just like to uninstall Legacy 7.5. As mentioned, the start menu does not have any subfolders under the Legacy program folder, so no uninstall link is there. In c:Legacy folder on my hard drive, I have tried the uninstall and get the message ‘INSTALL.LOG.FILE.missing. I went through the instructions on-line at Legacyfamilytree. There is an uninstaller I can download from another source, I was hoping there was a solution from Legacy. Judith From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Legacy v7.5 is actually an upgrade to v7 so you should have only that version on your computer. Go to Start menu All Programs and use the uninstall in the Legacy folder there. You should have a folder. If it's not there, then Legacy has already been uninstalled, although the uninstall does retain the c;\Legacy folder to protect your data. There's also an uninstall option in the c:\Legacy folder on your hard drive, as long as Legacy hasn't already been uninstalled. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Judith judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com wrote: I want to uninstall Legacy 7 and 7.5 from my computer. I have gone to the LegacyFamilyTree site, to troubleshoot, categories, Install/Uninstall and followed the directions, but it doesn’t uninstall, I keep getting the error message ‘INSTALL.LOG.FILE. missing. I went to step 2, and deleted the Legacy.exe, still no luck. I went to Windows 7 Control Panel, Uninstall, it’s not listed. I went to ‘All Programs’, Legacy to see if there was a drop down folder attached, there is no drop down folder, it only opens the program. Do I have to use a 3rd party uninstall tool? Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http
Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5
Sherry/Judith I think her problem is that 7.5 is not uninstalled yet, just 7, unless I'm wrong about that. Even if she deletes the 7.5 folders and runs cc, my experience is that it will leave junk that may not affect L8 but will affect the running of her machine down the line. If she has 7.5, do a re-install of that to get an install.log, then use unwise.exe to uninstall, custom option, ok all requests to uninstall all features. Her data files will not be affected, but never hurts to copy somewhere else. Prescott Smithpresku...@yahoo.com From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 01:47 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 Legacy v7 and v8 have different install folders. v7.5 won't install over v8. I recommend CCleaner by Piriform for cleaning out the registry, but the Legacy uninstall generally does a pretty good job of doing that. Judith, after uninstalling Legacy, the c:\Legacy folder remains in order to protect your data, saved settings, media, webpages, etc - anything that was changed or added during your use of Legacy is not deleted. If you're sure that everything is out of the c:\Legacy folder that you want to save, just delete the folder. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Judith, My experience with manual deletions and then trying to clean the registry has not been good. If you still have 7.4 or can get it from Legacy, I would follow the same route you just did. Maybe even if you have to re-install Legacy 7 over it to get the install.log file back. - Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Judith [ judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com ] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 01:00 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 I reinstalled Legacy 7, and was able to uninstall it. However, I still have Legacy 7.4 in my C:drive with no INSTALL.LOG.FILE, is there a solution. If I delete it all, all the files under Legacy in the C:drive and then clean the registry, would that do it? Or can I manually delete the Legacy registry files. I don't want to mess up legacy 8, but I can reinstall that if needed. Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5
It's not about where 7.5 and 8 install their files. 7.5 has a known problem. When you hit uninstall on the Control Panel, it hangs. If you wait a while then click again it tells you to wait or disappears. It may uninstall some files--certainly the install.log. But then uninstalling in Control Panel or in Programs will not work without install.log. Re-installing returns install.log, but even then Control Panel, even uninstall.exe wouldn't work for me and I had to re-install AGAIN to get install.log back. Only when I used unwise.exe and Custom with an install.log present was I able to rid of the thing. My guess is that like myself and others, that's what Judith is up against. Tech Support doesn't seem to know or admit this yet. From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 02:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 v7.5 is an up*date* to v7 and installed right over v7, like any other update. There should be only one folder - c:\Legacy - unless she circumvented the standard install or update. v8 goes to the c:\Program Files folder. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Sherry/Judith I think her problem is that 7.5 is not uninstalled yet, just 7, unless I'm wrong about that. Even if she deletes the 7.5 folders and runs cc, my experience is that it will leave junk that may not affect L8 but will affect the running of her machine down the line. If she has 7.5, do a re-install of that to get an install.log, then use unwise.exe to uninstall, custom option, ok all requests to uninstall all features. Her data files will not be affected, but never hurts to copy somewhere else. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5
We've had a number of people with uninstalling problems of this kind just since I've been on. Whether that is a problem caused by Legacy or users own configurations, it is a problem for a number of users even if they form a small minority. From: Ron Bernier [ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 04:13 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 What is tech support supposed to admit. When the majority of users have been able to uninstall 7.xx without any issue, I fail to see what tech support is supposed to admit. It always amuses me when one out of X number of users have a problem with an uninstall (or install) and automatically it is the fault of the developer. I would venture to say, if it was a deficiency in the installer/uninstaller the developer is using, then there would be a much greater percentage of people complaining about problems. That does not seem to be the case. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, grayscot2 wrote: It's not about where 7.5 and 8 install their files. 7.5 has a known problem. When you hit uninstall on the Control Panel, it hangs. If you wait a while then click again it tells you to wait or disappears. It may uninstall some files--certainly the install.log. But then uninstalling in Control Panel or in Programs will not work without install.log. Re-installing returns install.log, but even then Control Panel, even uninstall.exe wouldn't work for me and I had to re-install AGAIN to get install.log back. Only when I used unwise.exe and Custom with an install.log present was I able to rid of the thing. My guess is that like myself and others, that's what Judith is up against. Tech Support doesn't seem to know or admit this yet. From: Sherry/Support [ she...@legacyfamilytree.com ] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 02:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uninstalling Legacy 7.5 v7.5 is an up*date* to v7 and installed right over v7, like any other update. There should be only one folder - c:\Legacy - unless she circumvented the standard install or update. v8 goes to the c:\Program Files folder. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Sherry/Judith I think her problem is that 7.5 is not uninstalled yet, just 7, unless I'm wrong about that. Even if she deletes the 7.5 folders and runs cc, my experience is that it will leave junk that may not affect L8 but will affect the running of her machine down the line. If she has 7.5, do a re-install of that to get an install.log, then use unwise.exe to uninstall, custom option, ok all requests to uninstall all features. Her data files will not be affected, but never hurts to copy somewhere else. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Unlocking Legacy
Is Geoff's book out yet? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files
The sub-directory Data under Legacy Family Tree, wherever you keep it, gets pretty messy with multiple trees. Anyone have a good way to keep down the confusion? I'd like to put all the files for each tree in a Data sub-folder, but the location option has to be set to just one sub-folder: Legacy Family Tree\Data. Won't all the files and backups get dumped into Data on closing, even if I open them from each of the trees sub-folders in Data.? --- Prescott Smithgraysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files
Sounds good. Thanks Paul. From: Paul Gray [graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 09:36 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files Prescott, You can create subfolders as you wish. The location option (I assume you are referring to 6.1) is simply a default location for NEW family files. Nothing more. If you create subfolders under Legacy Family Tree\Data and move your various family files as appropriate, Legacy will see those locations and remember them. Remember also to set option 1.2 to define which file you want to open on start-up (last one used, present a list, or always open a specific file) Paul Gray -Original Message- From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com] Sent: December-08-13 8:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files The sub-directory Data under Legacy Family Tree, wherever you keep it, gets pretty messy with multiple trees. Anyone have a good way to keep down the confusion? I'd like to put all the files for each tree in a Data sub-folder, but the location option has to be set to just one sub-folder: Legacy Family Tree\Data. Won't all the files and backups get dumped into Data on closing, even if I open them from each of the trees sub-folders in Data.? --- Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files
That makes things a lot neater. The fewer the muddles and distractions, the more time on real mysteries. Thanks Paul. Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com From: Paul Gray [graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:12 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files Prescott, I should also have noted that you can set your backup folders in file -- backup family file to go to whatever folders you wish as well. Paul Gray Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 21:01, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: December --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black
Sherry, OK, the solution was to get a different richtx32.ocx, put that in system32 and syswow64 and register both (perhaps you only need one if you're running Win7, 32 bit; L8 is 32 bit but runs in my 64 bit Win 7. Which is the required one or do you need both anyway. The version of richtx32.ocx I originally had from Windows and later from Legacy was much larger than the 199 or 200 kb than I found by googling. There is no source for downloading it in the Legacy article you quote, Sherry, and there is a typo in the command given for registering in system32--written as systemS32. Following is the source of the Richtx32.ocx that worked: Fix for RICHTX32.OCX Component Error When Running a Program © Ramesh Srinivasan | Windows Vista, Windows XP | 22nd July 2008 When you run an application which was created in Visual Basic 6.0, the following error message may occur and the program terminates. Component ‘RICHTX32.OCX’ or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid. This happens if the program uses Rich TextBox ActiveX Control (RichTx32.ocx), but does not include the ActiveX file in the setup package. To resolve the problem, download RichTx32.zip. Unzip the archive and extract the file RichTx32.ocx to the Windows\System32 folder. Note that the VB6 run-time distribution package from Microsoft does not include the RichTx32.ocx ActiveX Control. --- So now I should be able to use L8 afterall. Thank you to Sherry and all those who responded. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 09:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black The Note windows in Legacy are based on Windows setting. You can change the font style and color in Options Customize Fonts 10.1 but not the background color. In the past, the black windows have been related to a faulty Richtxt32.ocx file, as shown in our KB article http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00378/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Black-Screens-in-Legacy.html Did you try those steps? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: I've described the problem earlier but there seems to be no solution available: All the Notes portions of views in 7.5 and now 8 are black backgrounds with apparently only black type available. Technical support can't help. Otherwise the program seems to be working fine. This is true for Geoff's sample file as for my own. Is there anything in the color or font options that might alter this? I've tried some combinations but nothing--anywhere--seems to change, so apparently I don't know how these work. I just need to change the Notes field screens themselves not the whole panel or view. Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black
I was able to overwrite and replace richtx32.ocx on both system32 and syswow64. That was how I knew it was different from the file that had been there before. And registration of both succeeded as it had before but with the different file version all the Notes screens are black type on WHITE background. From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:44 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black Thanks for letting me know - I'll get the KB corrected. The version of Windows dictates where you would save the file to. Windows Vista and later won't let you save files to the System32 folder. The SysWOW was added in v7 so you can save files there. Glad it worked! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:10 AM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Sherry, OK, the solution was to get a different richtx32.ocx, put that in system32 and syswow64 and register both (perhaps you only need one if you're running Win7, 32 bit; L8 is 32 bit but runs in my 64 bit Win 7. Which is the required one or do you need both anyway. The version of richtx32.ocx I originally had from Windows and later from Legacy was much larger than the 199 or 200 kb than I found by googling. There is no source for downloading it in the Legacy article you quote, Sherry, and there is a typo in the command given for registering in system32--written as systemS32. Following is the source of the Richtx32.ocx that worked: Fix for RICHTX32.OCX Component Error When Running a Program © Ramesh Srinivasan | Windows Vista, Windows XP | 22nd July 2008 When you run an application which was created in Visual Basic 6.0, the following error message may occur and the program terminates. Component ‘RICHTX32.OCX’ or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid. This happens if the program uses Rich TextBox ActiveX Control (RichTx32.ocx), but does not include the ActiveX file in the setup package. To resolve the problem, download RichTx32.zip. Unzip the archive and extract the file RichTx32.ocx to the Windows\System32 folder. Note that the VB6 run-time distribution package from Microsoft does not include the RichTx32.ocx ActiveX Control. --- So now I should be able to use L8 afterall. Thank you to Sherry and all those who responded. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black
The following may more fully explain what's going on: -- RCE Messageboard's Regroupment Forums The Newbie Forum getting richtx32.ocx to work in windows 7 PDA View Full Version : getting richtx32.ocx to work in windows 7 R4ndom August 27th, 2012, 14:43 I know this has probably been covered, but I can't seem to find an answer for this. For some reason, VB Decompiler lite (and P32Dasm) will not work on Windows 7 64-bit. I want to be able to include this in a tutorial, but am having no luck. When you try to run it, you get a The module richtx32.ocx may not be compatible with the version of Windows that you're running... I have tried the various solutions I could find, including 1. Running regsvr32.exe c:\Windows\system32\richtx32.ocx 2. Running regsvr32.exe c:\Windows\syswow64\richtx32.ocx 3. Running these with administrator rights in the command window 4. Trying to install the VB6 runtime 5. Trying to find different version of the richtx32.ocx file but It won't work. Any help would be appreciated... R4ndom August 27th, 2012, 15:31 I have solved the problem. If anyone is interested, here are the required steps: 1. You MUST use the older version of the ocx file (and the version from VB Decompiler Lite of Richtx32.ocx also works with VB Decompiler Pro and P32Dasm). 2. You MUST copy it into the sysWoW32 folder inside the Windows install directory. 3. You MUST run a command prompt with admin priviledges. 4. You MUST register it by using: c:\Windows\syswow64\regsvr.32 c:\Windows\syswow64\richtx32.ocx 5. The correct richtx version will then be registered. -- Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black
If I could get it to white type on black that would be fine, but 10.1 doesn't seem to have a provision for changing the Notes font color. I have re-installed 7.5 and verified that Richtx32.ocx is in Windows\system32 and registered. I haven't re-installed 8 but got positive responses on registering richtx32.ocx in Windows\systerm32 and syswow64. The error message on clicking Notes in 8 is: Richtx32Invalid Property Value so it must have something to do with Richtx32.ocx but doesn't value suggest it is something set in the Registry? I've run sfc /scannow and gotten assurances no files are missing and integrity is OK. From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 09:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Black On Black The Note windows in Legacy are based on Windows setting. You can change the font style and color in Options Customize Fonts 10.1 but not the background color. In the past, the black windows have been related to a faulty Richtxt32.ocx file, as shown in our KB article http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00378/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Black-Screens-in-Legacy.html Did you try those steps? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: I've described the problem earlier but there seems to be no solution available: All the Notes portions of views in 7.5 and now 8 are black backgrounds with apparently only black type available. Technical support can't help. Otherwise the program seems to be working fine. This is true for Geoff's sample file as for my own. Is there anything in the color or font options that might alter this? I've tried some combinations but nothing--anywhere--seems to change, so apparently I don't know how these work. I just need to change the Notes field screens themselves not the whole panel or view. Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup
Don, You might try what worked before for 7 (as quoted just below) and if it does, then re-install and uninstall 8 by the same method. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com = That did it. I reinstalled, the install.log was there but still wouldn't work thru control panel. So I reinstalled, the install.log was there. But the UNWISE worked perfectly. Thanks for the quick response. I owe you one! Dave Pointer -- Not sure this will apply to your situation, but I had similar trouble with 7.5. and this might work. Look in the program files for Install.log. If it's not there, try re-installing 7.5 once more. Check again to see if install.log is among the program files. You need this to get it uninstalled and each time you uninstall it is deleted. Now see if you can use Control Panel to uninstall, if it's there. If this uninstall doesn't work; re-install again to get an install.log, then go into the program and click on Unwise.exe. If you get options then to do an Auto or Custom uninstall, choose custom. You'll get various options to uninstall. If you hit all of them, you'll lose your unlocking number if it is Deluxe and have to get it back from Legacy if you want to use 7.5 again. Prescott Smith presku...@yahoo.com === From: Don Hanson [terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 02:00 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup I really doubt that v7 really uninstalled. But...it's quite clear that v8 did not. So, the problem continues. Hopefully it will be addressed in a coming update. Don -Original Message- From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup Don, Did V7 really uninstall? There have been problems with that. === = From: Don Hanson [terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 05:59 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup Well… I ran the L8 uninstaller. It left behind C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8 folder containing 1919 files, 82 folders with a total size of 138MB. That’s the same size as the new installation. The My Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder was also left behind and the same size as the new installation. There were also numerous Registry entries left behind. I reversed those and deleted the folders and contents, including the C:\Legacy folder that I now know was left after uninstalling L7. I realize that uninstalling a program often leaves files and Registry entries, but what I found goes beyond a ‘conservative’ uninstall. Don From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup Thanks guys, I have been using Family Tree Maker and had not yet imported the Gedcom in L7. I forgot to uninstall L7 before installing L8. I was hoping to easily have a ‘do over’. But, I think it best to do it the ‘right way’ rather than the easiest. Don --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup
Don, Did V7 really uninstall? There have been problems with that. From: Don Hanson [terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 05:59 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup Well… I ran the L8 uninstaller. It left behind C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8 folder containing 1919 files, 82 folders with a total size of 138MB. That’s the same size as the new installation. The My Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder was also left behind and the same size as the new installation. There were also numerous Registry entries left behind. I reversed those and deleted the folders and contents, including the C:\Legacy folder that I now know was left after uninstalling L7. I realize that uninstalling a program often leaves files and Registry entries, but what I found goes beyond a ‘conservative’ uninstall. Don From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Folder cleanup Thanks guys, I have been using Family Tree Maker and had not yet imported the Gedcom in L7. I forgot to uninstall L7 before installing L8. I was hoping to easily have a ‘do over’. But, I think it best to do it the ‘right way’ rather than the easiest. Don Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Issues
Much against my will, I'm probably going to follow this for Data, if not for media, but I would like to propose that hereafter all user data be allowed to be put somewhere else besides the Microsoft categories. Doesn't anyone else resent the patronizing, over-possessive My Documents and My Pictures? It makes you want to throw up to begin with and then the contempt it shows for Windows users seals the deal.It is easy enough to copy over the necessary folder and sub-folders to a dedicated custom directory without all the other MS trash in it. Please don't do this again. From: Leon Chapman [chap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 01:30 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Issues Margaret: Legacy 8 has been updated to install the software in the more traditional areas of Windows which provided enhanced security. The older version 7.5 installed at the root level of drive C at C:\Legacy\ and this by-passed the normal security built into Windows. I recommend you use the latest L8 standard for installing and saving all your new files. Legacy 8 installs its program files in C:\Program Files (x86)\ which is where they should be installed. You should not mess with any of these files in this location. The Legacy 8 user data have been moved to: C:/Users/myname/documents/Legacyfamilytree/ There are subfolders under this directory that you should use: 1. \_AppData\ -- this is where your usr settings and Books and iSearch, etc settings are stored 2. \Data\ -- This is where you should keep your Legacy 8 data files (Carter.fdb, etc) 3. \Media\ -- This is where all your pictures, pdfs, videos, etc should be placed (Note: In Legacy 7, this folder was called \Pictures\) The other 2 folders, Legacy FS and LegacyCharting are for those applications within Legacy. The only real folders you need to worry about are: 1. C:/Users/myname/documents/Legacyfamilytree/Data/ 2. C:/Users/myname/documents/Legacyfamilytree/Media/ I recommend you copy (and I mean COPY and not MOVE) your old Legacy 7 data files from: C:\Legacy\Data to the new folder: C:\Users\myname\documents\Legacyfamilytree\Data\ I recommend you copy (and I mean COPY and not MOVE) your old Legacy 7 picture files from: C:\Legacy\Pictures to the new folder: C:\Users\myname\documents\Legacyfamilytree\Media\ Note: Copy you the Legacy 7 files so you retain the original Legacy 7 files in their original location. This will allow you to run both Legacy 7 and 8 on your computer and it sort of provides a backup of your Legacy 7 original files. Once you open a Legacy 7 database in Legacy 8, you cannot go back to Legacy 7, unless you use a GEDCOM format. After you have copied your Legacy 7 database files and pictures to the new Legacy 8 locations, then open Legacy 8 and do a File, Open, and browse to the file and open the Carter.fdb, in your case. It will convert your database to the new Legacy 8 format. Good luck. Leon Chapman ___ Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com - --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Black On Black
I've described the problem earlier but there seems to be no solution available: All the Notes portions of views in 7.5 and now 8 are black backgrounds with apparently only black type available. Technical support can't help. Otherwise the program seems to be working fine. This is true for Geoff's sample file as for my own. Is there anything in the color or font options that might alter this? I've tried some combinations but nothing--anywhere--seems to change, so apparently I don't know how these work. I just need to change the Notes field screens themselves not the whole panel or view. Prescott Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Dave, Not sure this will apply to your situation, but I had similar trouble with 7.5. and this might work. Look in the program files for Install.log. If it's not there, try re-installing 7.5 once more. Check again to see if install.log is among the program files. You need this to get it uninstalled and each time you uninstall it is deleted. Now see if you can use Control Panel to uninstall, if it's there. If this uninstall doesn't work; re-install again to get an install.log, then go into the program and click on Unwise.exe. If you get options then to do an Auto or Custom uninstall, choose custom. You'll get various options to uninstall. If you hit all of them, you'll lose your unlocking number if it is Deluxe and have to get it back from Legacy if you want to use 7.5 again. From: Dave [famho...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 08:11 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 A couple months ago, I got a new Windows 8 laptop. I installed Legacy 7.5 in the default directory and all worked well. Later I upgraded to Windows 8.1 when it became available. Still all worked fine. Now, I purchased Legacy 8 and wanted to uninstall Legacy 7.5. But it doesn't appear in the programs listed in control panel so I can't uninstall. So I tried to install 7.5 over top of it. It then appears in the control panel so I can uninstall. But after uninstalling, the Legacy 7.5 program icon is still there and works fine when clicked. Has anyone experienced this or have any suggestions? Dave Pointer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after months. From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day service!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: John B. Lisle Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Richard et al, If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something. Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog. If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service. The email should be coming from : Legacy Customer Service legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com with a subject line (something like...) : Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number... john. At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting. --Â Richard Van Wasshnova On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter porterrockw...@q.com wrote: Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting. Porter -Original Message- From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Hello Lug, I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of Legacy 8 about 2 hours ago and just received my customer number. Thank you Legacy! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
As I understood it, those getting their numbers now for Deluxe are also getting the .pdf. And I guess I am objecting to the fact that 7.5 was sold to me without a manual or any information on how Family Search worked from LDS, since that was the draw they were selling on. From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:28 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a manual be published before the way in which a program works has been finalised? Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed until the Manual had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors on the date of publication? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk -Original Message- From: grayscot2 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after months. From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day service!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk / From: John B. Lisle Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Richard et al, If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something. Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog. If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service. The email should be coming from : Legacy Customer Service legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com with a subject line (something like...) : Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number... john. At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting. --Â Richard Van Wasshnova On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter porterrockw...@q.com wrote: Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting. Porter -Original Message- From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Hello Lug, I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of Legacy 8 about 2 hours ago and just received my customer number. Thank you Legacy! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
I don't know how they are handling L8 in pricing for the manual but this was to be included with 7.5 as it usually is for all software. From: William Boswell [whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 04:39 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number I paid for the PDF manual for Legacy 8 as part of a bundle so I don't think it's free unless in the last few days they made it free. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number As I understood it, those getting their numbers now for Deluxe are also getting the .pdf. And I guess I am objecting to the fact that 7.5 was sold to me without a manual or any information on how Family Search worked from LDS, since that was the draw they were selling on. From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:28 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a manual be published before the way in which a program works has been finalised? Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed until the Manual had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors on the date of publication? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk -Original Message- From: grayscot2 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after months. From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day service!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk / From: John B. Lisle Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Richard et al, If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something. Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog. If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service. The email should be coming from : Legacy Customer Service legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com with a subject line (something like...) : Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number... john. At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting. -- Richard Van Wasshnova On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter porterrockw...@q.com wrote: Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting. Porter -Original Message- From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number Hello Lug, I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of Legacy 8 about 2 hours ago and just received my customer number. Thank you Legacy! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
Thank you. Nice to know. From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 04:39 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number The free upgrades to v8 for those who purchased v7.5 after early May are now being sent out - either the physical product, if that's what you ordered in v7.5 or an email with download information for v8, if you purchased v7.5 download. Considering there are thousands of upgrades to process we ask for your patience. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after months. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
The Help File for 7.5 does very little to explain how to use Family Search with or without Legacy 7.5. You learn nothing about the consequences of matching, registering/contributing your tree, avoiding fostering duplicates, the detailed procedures for using it from Legacy, the rationale and pitfalls of the whole thing. Sorry to complain but these are issues. Not sure why we had lesser priority than new buyers but glad to know we are still somewhere in the queue. From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 06:26 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number You can buy the download with or without the PDF manual, or the CD with or without the print manual and either print or PDF by itself. Of course the Help file always comes with the program and is more comprehensive and up-to-date than the printed manual. It's been years since I've purchased a program that came with a manual - usually it only comes with a help file. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how they are handling L8 in pricing for the manual but this was to be included with 7.5 as it usually is for all software. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] 7.5 Notes Unusable, Are 8's?
Answer is no. In L8 Standard, using the sample database, when I go to open the notes for an individual, I now get the message: Richtx.Invalid Property Value. I have to click OK twice to open the Notes database. This step didn't happen in 7.5, but the result is the same. The General Notes field is black screen, black fonts. Same with Research Notes. Medical has fields for Cause of Death, etc in white background, but the larger field below is black. Haven't checked in L8 but in L7.5, the Notes fields are black in all views where this is a feature. Anybody else have this or know what might be causing it. They gave up in Tech Support for 7.5 but indicated it might be a known problem with Nvidia graphic adapters. but the usual solution for this didn't work. Prescott From: graysc...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 09:21 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 7.5 Notes Unusable, Are 8's? I was never able to find a solution to 7.5's Notes problem--black type on black background for any view that had a Notes field. Something to do with my Nvidia graphics adapter. Tried everything with Tech Support but couldn't change it. Is anyone having this trouble on L8? - Pres Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] 7.5 Notes Unusable, Are 8's?
Win7 64bit From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:57 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 7.5 Notes Unusable, Are 8's? Which version of Windows do you have? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: Answer is no. In L8 Standard, using the sample database, when I go to open the notes for an individual, I now get the message: Richtx.Invalid Property Value. I have to click OK twice to open the Notes database. This step didn't happen in 7.5, but the result is the same. The General Notes field is black screen, black fonts. Same with Research Notes. Medical has fields for Cause of Death, etc in white background, but the larger field below is black. Haven't checked in L8 but in L7.5, the Notes fields are black in all views where this is a feature. Anybody else have this or know what might be causing it. They gave up in Tech Support for 7.5 but indicated it might be a known problem with Nvidia graphic adapters. but the usual solution for this didn't work. Prescott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search
Good heavens! My grandfather was born in 1854 and I knew him for 11 years of my life. Do we have a bunch of minors on here? From: William Boswell [whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 04:07 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search That's impressive. Most of my great uncles/aunts were born in the 1880's and 1890's. Anyone before that was dead before I was born. One thing I really hate in people's trees is they will have my lines disconnected from the rest of their tree. If they are still researching and trying to make the connection, they should keep it in a separate data file and not post it online. It just further confuses people into thinking there is a connection. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search Bill, I also can remember my grandparents, both of whom also born in the late 1800s, and, like you, see information published which I personally know to be wrong. I have also been able to fill in some gaps in the archives for a couple of organisations of which my grandfather was a member. My memory does actually go back somewhat further - I can just remember a great uncle born in 1866! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] 7.5 Notes Unusable, Are 8's?
I was never able to find a solution to 7.5's Notes problem--black type on black background for any view that had a Notes field. Something to do with my Nvidia graphics adapter. Tried everything with Tech Support but couldn't change it. Is anyone having this trouble on L8? - Pres Smith graysc...@gmail.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp