Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
Shirley, I do enter the Census as a marriage event when the couple is married & appear together. However, I also enter the Census event for each child enumerated, which I think covers some of the instances Jenny describes. Further, I do not enter the way Geoff teaches in the Legacy training. I like to have more descriptive Notes on the event. And that would be where I would note "Their youngest two children were staying with her parents in London, so were not enumerated here." -- and enter the London census event on each of the 2 children. For an individual, then, they will have 2-3 census events themselves, then maybe several with their spouse, then maybe a few as a widow/widower. I tend to research a couple or family, rather than an individual. It works for me for now. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Shirley Richardson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold Thank you Jenny, My thoughts exactly. I just wanted confirmation that I wasn't missing something and might regret it later. Kind Regards Shirley NZ - Original Message - >From: Jenny M Benson >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:14 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold > >On 23/09/2013 23:51, Shirley Richardson wrote: >> I would appreciate, from those more experienced, the pros and cons >> of entering Census events in the marriage record. >> I have read through the archives and still have no clear conclusion. eg >> what if the husband/wife dies or is no longer living with the family. > >I very soon came to the conclusion that there were far more cons than >pros concerning entering Census Events as Marriage Events. > >You are going to have Census Events popping up all over the place: one >or other partner being away from home on a Census night, children >staying with relatives or growing up and later growing up and moving >away. I much prefer to have all one person's Events being kept with >that one person. > >I keep Marriage Events for events which relate strictly to the Marriage >- Announcements in the Press, Banns, Wedding Parties, etc. > >-- >Jenny M Benson > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
Shriley, Then the surviving spouse is again a single person and any Events are no longer Marriage Events. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
Thank you Jenny, My thoughts exactly. I just wanted confirmation that I wasn't missing something and might regret it later. Kind Regards Shirley NZ - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold On 23/09/2013 23:51, Shirley Richardson wrote: > I would appreciate, from those more experienced, the pros and cons > of entering Census events in the marriage record. > I have read through the archives and still have no clear conclusion. eg > what if the husband/wife dies or is no longer living with the family. I very soon came to the conclusion that there were far more cons than pros concerning entering Census Events as Marriage Events. You are going to have Census Events popping up all over the place: one or other partner being away from home on a Census night, children staying with relatives or growing up and later growing up and moving away. I much prefer to have all one person's Events being kept with that one person. I keep Marriage Events for events which relate strictly to the Marriage - Announcements in the Press, Banns, Wedding Parties, etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
On 23/09/2013 23:51, Shirley Richardson wrote: > I would appreciate, from those more experienced, the pros and cons > of entering Census events in the marriage record. > I have read through the archives and still have no clear conclusion. eg > what if the husband/wife dies or is no longer living with the family. I very soon came to the conclusion that there were far more cons than pros concerning entering Census Events as Marriage Events. You are going to have Census Events popping up all over the place: one or other partner being away from home on a Census night, children staying with relatives or growing up and later growing up and moving away. I much prefer to have all one person's Events being kept with that one person. I keep Marriage Events for events which relate strictly to the Marriage - Announcements in the Press, Banns, Wedding Parties, etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
Hello, Shirley I'm not sure of any pros and cons. I think it is best to go with what suits you best. Personally, I think a census event belongs with the individual since, in many cases, the person of interest may be unmarried and away from home. Maybe a domestic servant or sailor on board ship somewhere. I add a census event to each family member listed in the household, this usually excludes servants, boarders and visitors. If the person in my tree is boarding or visiting someone not in my tree, then they get an event all to themselves. I use the description for age, marital status and occupation, the date for the census date and the place for the residence address. Notes follow on from the description and usually contain other relevant information. A typical sentence might read: On 2 Apr 1911 George appeared on the census at 21 High Street, Writtle, Essex as a 25-year-old unmarried farm labourer who was boarding in the home of Fred Smith, also a farm labourer. I save the event on the event clipboard and usually only have to modify the description (sometimes the notes) for each family member. I don't list everyone in the household by name for each event. For the mother, I do occasionally add the number of children in the notes; particularly when this is the first census after the marriage. This works for me. Your mileage may vary. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Census Events-Marriage or Head of Houdehold
I would appreciate, from those more experienced, the pros and cons of entering Census events in the marriage record. I have read through the archives and still have no clear conclusion. eg what if the husband/wife dies or is no longer living with the family. Kind regards Shirley NZ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp