Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread sarge1933
I have not as yet encountered any issues with having downloaded and installed V 
7.5.0.154.  Fingers crossed - just in case! :-:

Bob

 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Bobby,

 I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect)
 that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Bobby Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:06 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Eric,
 Thanks!  I could not see a reason that would not work but I wasn't sure.  I
 am going to update to .154 and try it for a while.  If I see problems in
 reports or some of the other problems reported earlier then I CAN go back.

 Bobby

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Wiggers [mailto:e...@ericwiggers.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:30 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Bobby:

 I reverted back to version .142 (still there...) and restored successfully
 from user files created with that same version .142.

 Eric

 - Original Message -
 From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154


 Alan and Mike,

 If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup
 made with version .142?  I would not
 want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle the source writer sources
 properly.

 Bobby

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
 version 7.5.0.154

 Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install
 .142 then import the gedcom?
 Alan Pereira




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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-27 Thread Paula Ryburn
Me neither.  And the only problems I saw reported here were the fonts being
blanked out and a report printing a lot of jumbled data which someone from
support said could be caused by the missing fonts issue.  Granted, we don't
necessarily see all the problems reported here - we are only the LUG list. ;)
 --Paula





From: sarge1...@cox.net sarge1...@cox.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 9:00:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version
7.5.0.154

I have not as yet encountered any issues with having downloaded and installed V
7.5.0.154.  Fingers crossed - just in case! :-:

Bob

 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Bobby,

 I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect)
 that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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[LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Bobby Johnson
I am sharing one of my Legacy files with my sister on Dropbox.  If I update to
7.5.0.154 will my sister be able to use 7.5.0.142 to open the file?  I
understand there may have been some changes made to table formats in a version
between .142 and .154.
If I save the Legacy7setup.exe file as Legacy7setup.142 and update to .154 can I
go back to .142 by renaming Legacy7setup.142 to Legacy7setup.exe and reinstall
.142 or will I need to restore a backup of .142 data?

Bobby





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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bobby,

In the past, when there has been a change in the file structure it has not
been possible for the file to be read by an older version. I share files
with my brother-in-law and suggested to him not to update from V. 7.5.0.142.
On the release of 7.5.0.154, I recommended that he updated. During the
interval I did not update my files.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Johnson
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 2:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version
7.5.0.154

I am sharing one of my Legacy files with my sister on Dropbox.  If I update
to
7.5.0.154 will my sister be able to use 7.5.0.142 to open the file?  I
understand there may have been some changes made to table formats in a
version
between .142 and .154.
If I save the Legacy7setup.exe file as Legacy7setup.142 and update to .154
can I
go back to .142 by renaming Legacy7setup.142 to Legacy7setup.exe and
reinstall
.142 or will I need to restore a backup of .142 data?

Bobby




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RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Bobby Johnson
Thanks Ron,

I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the Legacy7setup.exe file I 
downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then restore the last backup of data in the 
.142 version.  I would like a bootstrap in case there are problems with .154 
that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users group on how to 
handle this.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Bobby,

In the past, when there has been a change in the file structure it has not been 
possible for the file to be read by an older version. I share files with my 
brother-in-law and suggested to him not to update from V. 7.5.0.142.
On the release of 7.5.0.154, I recommended that he updated. During the interval 
I did not update my files.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/






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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/26 18:48, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the Legacy7setup.exe file
 I downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then restore the last backup of data in
 the .142 version.  I would like a bootstrap in case there are problems with
 .154 that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users group on
 how to handle this.

Once you've installed the newer version and run it so that it's changed the
format of your database, you can not go back to a prior version.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/26 18:48, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the Legacy7setup.exe file
 I downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then restore the last backup of data in
 the .142 version.  I would like a bootstrap in case there are problems with
 .154 that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users group on
 how to handle this.

Further to my previous message: I would like to receive some form of
notification that the new version is going to reformat the database, so that I
am at least given the chance of cancelling the update. At present, if you update
going from the Legacy program, you don't get any choice.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 4:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

On 2012/02/26 18:48, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the Legacy7setup.exe
 file
 I downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then restore the last backup of data
 in
 the .142 version.  I would like a bootstrap in case there are problems
 with
 .154 that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users group
 on
 how to handle this.

Further to my previous message: I would like to receive some form of
notification that the new version is going to reformat the database, so that
I
am at least given the chance of cancelling the update. At present, if you
update
going from the Legacy program, you don't get any choice.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


Mike,

Previously we have had a splash screen before we started the update, and I
don't recollect having seen it with this version.

Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Alan Pereira
Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install .142 
then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: 26 February 2012 16:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

On 2012/02/26 18:48, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the
 Legacy7setup.exe file I downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then
 restore the last backup of data in the .142 version.  I would like a
 bootstrap in case there are problems with
 .154 that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users
 group on how to handle this.

Once you've installed the newer version and run it so that it's changed the 
format of your database, you can not go back to a prior version.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
Alan,

Yes, but don't forget that Source Writer files may be adversely affected.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install
.142 then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: 26 February 2012 16:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

On 2012/02/26 18:48, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I'm still curious if I can return to .142 by using the
 Legacy7setup.exe file I downloaded in Feb. to reinstall and then
 restore the last backup of data in the .142 version.  I would like a
 bootstrap in case there are problems with
 .154 that have not been uncovered.  Also I need to instruct my users
 group on how to handle this.

Once you've installed the newer version and run it so that it's changed the
format of your database, you can not go back to a prior version.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg




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RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Bobby Johnson
Alan and Mike,

If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup made 
with version .142?  I would not want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle 
the source writer sources properly.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install .142 
then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira

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From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: 26 February 2012 16:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154





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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Eric Wiggers
Bobby:

I reverted back to version .142 (still there...) and restored successfully from 
user files created with that
same version .142.

Eric

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From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154


Alan and Mike,

If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup made 
with version .142?  I would not
want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle the source writer sources 
properly.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install .142 
then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: 26 February 2012 16:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154





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RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Bobby Johnson
Eric,
Thanks!  I could not see a reason that would not work but I wasn't sure.  I am 
going to update to .154 and try it for a while.  If I see problems in reports 
or some of the other problems reported earlier then I CAN go back.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Eric Wiggers [mailto:e...@ericwiggers.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Bobby:

I reverted back to version .142 (still there...) and restored successfully from 
user files created with that same version .142.

Eric

- Original Message -
From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154


Alan and Mike,

If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup made 
with version .142?  I would not
want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle the source writer sources 
properly.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install .142 
then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: 26 February 2012 16:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154





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Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bobby,

I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect)
that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

Ron Ferguson
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-Original Message-
From: Bobby Johnson
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

Eric,
Thanks!  I could not see a reason that would not work but I wasn't sure.  I
am going to update to .154 and try it for a while.  If I see problems in
reports or some of the other problems reported earlier then I CAN go back.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Eric Wiggers [mailto:e...@ericwiggers.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

Bobby:

I reverted back to version .142 (still there...) and restored successfully
from user files created with that same version .142.

Eric

- Original Message -
From: Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154


Alan and Mike,

If I can reinstall .142 then why would I not be able to restore a backup
made with version .142?  I would not
want to use GEDCOM because it would not handle the source writer sources
properly.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and
version 7.5.0.154

Would it be possible to export it as a Legacy gedcom, delete .154, install
.142 then import the gedcom?
Alan Pereira




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RE: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and version 7.5.0.154

2012-02-26 Thread Bobby Johnson
Ron,
Yes, I do know that changes will be lost.  I am in a slack period for research 
and will note any changes I make for the next few weeks.  Hope I won't need to 
back up to an earlier version.

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 4:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data compatibility between version 7.5.0.142 and 
version 7.5.0.154

Bobby,

I have, as yet, found any problems with V 7.5.0.154, but I hope (and expect) 
that you realise you will lose everything you change after you have updated.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/






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