[LegacyUG] How to show adopted son
Thanks for the advice. For the record, I did the following, which seems to work. 1. Add the wife to the husband (since I already had the husband). 2. Add the son as an unlinked individual. 3. Add a mother to this child, linked to the existing "wife". This produces a second "marriage" for the wife with an "unknown" "husband". 4. Focus on the husband and wife and add a child, linking to the adopted son. This gives an "He already has parents" which I ignored. 5. Still focussed on the husband and wife, change the "relationship to father" to adopted and "to mother" to biological. 6. Add notes to say this is speculation and needs more research. It is possible that the adopted son was the legitimate child of the wife's brother (who has died, moved abroad etc.) so I really need to work in this later. Once more unto the to-do list I go. Thanks again Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to show adopted son
I missed one point in your e-mail (about adding an unknown spouse). What I put in my original e-mail would be done for the "assumed adoptive father". (In other words, while the wife/adopting-husband are in focus.) You would also add an "unknown" "husband" to the woman. (different people do different things for "unknown" names - you'll have to pick your own "poison" for what names you put in the unknown husband's name fields.) And then with this other wife/husband in focus, you would add this child, and then change the "relationship to xxx" settings for both of those parents. I have a "biological" as one of my options. I don't remember if that's how Legacy came or if I added that one. Note that if the adopted child is your focus, you can NOT add a FATHER to it if it already has one father. Instead you have to work with the wife as a focus (give her 2 "husbands" (one with "was not married"?) and then add the child to each wife/husband relationship). I have these options in my "Child-Parent" relationships. Again, not sure if legacy came with these or if I added some. I have gotten into the habit now of putting a "period" in front of an event-name that I create myself (or that come in via an import) - I should probably do the same for relationships I create myself. Lets me know I need to check any results a little closer to make sure it shows up correct in reports. Anyway, here's what options are available in my setup: Adopted Biological Challenged Disproved Foster Guardian Sealing Step Just a thought - it is possible that the child IS biological for both parents. They may have had the child before they got married. So be sure you put something in your NOTES stating that the UNKNOWN HUSBAND and that the BIOLOGICAL/ADOPTED settings for the child are assumed and further research is needed. Concerning what names you do (or do not put) into the UNKNOWN HUSBAND's name fields, I'm following someone else's suggestion, with a few tweaks: [---?--] unknown first name [~--?--] unknown last name Above is usually followed with [[child of xxx]] or [[husband of xxx]] For example: [---?--][[child of Uriah Patton]] This allows me to make sense of the unknown in the NAME LISTS. It is a bit more typing, but I find it helpful. By using the double brackets, I can tell reports to NOT include that info in reports. And the text in single brackets looks OK in reports (in my opinion) and prompts folks to "fill in the blanks". Other folks leave the name fields blank in UNKNOWN individuals. Leaving the fields blanks is kinda the "normal/suggested" method, but I don't like it. That's one of the beauties of Legacy - it is very flexible. Bob On 05/27/2012 07:10, Robert57P_gmail wrote: > * Add the child to both parents. > * right click on that child (or any child of the parents for that matter) > * Click on Children's settings in the pop-up menu > * Make sure the correct child is highlighted in the resulting pop-up window > * Change the "Relationship to father" to ADOPTED > * NOTE - you normally would NOT use the "Child status" to show adopted > (I did this originally). Instead, use the "Relationship to xxx" fields > to indicate it individually for each parent. > * I wish there was an option for this field to pop up automatically when > a child was added (just like when we add a marriage the marriage detail > screen shows up). That way we would remember to set this stuff. By > default, the relationship is set to BLANK (i.e. - to NOTHING). I say > the auto-pop-up would be an OPTIONAL setting because some folks might > consider setting these fields as a pain, but some of us would find it > helpful. (Yes, I have put in a formal suggestion for this.) > > Bob > > On 05/27/2012 02:21, Tony Rolfe wrote: >> I have just discovered a census image with a couple who have been >> married for 3 years. In the family is a 4-year-old adopted son whose >> surname is the same as the wife's maiden name. >> >> it appears likely that the wife had this child out of wedlock (although >> he may have been a brother's child etc.) and so I have added him as an >> unlinked individual and then added the wife as a mother, giving an >> unknown father. >> >> So, How do I now add him as an adopted son to the husband who may or may >> not be the father? At this stage I will assume he is not the father, so >> I want to keep the unknown father and add the husband as a second >> father. Is this possible? >> >> Thanks for any advice >> >> Tony >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.L
Re: [LegacyUG] How to show adopted son
Bob, To be clear, the default of "Blank" for a child - parent relationship is read by Legacy as "Biological". This means, of course, that normally the option to use this facility would only be chosen when the C-P relationship is not biological. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co..uk/ "Robert57P_gmail" wrote: >* Add the child to both parents. >* right click on that child (or any child of the parents for that matter) >* Click on Children's settings in the pop-up menu >* Make sure the correct child is highlighted in the resulting pop-up window >* Change the "Relationship to father" to ADOPTED >* NOTE - you normally would NOT use the "Child status" to show adopted >(I did this originally). Instead, use the "Relationship to xxx" fields >to indicate it individually for each parent. >* I wish there was an option for this field to pop up automatically when >a child was added (just like when we add a marriage the marriage detail >screen shows up). That way we would remember to set this stuff. By >default, the relationship is set to BLANK (i.e. - to NOTHING). I say >the auto-pop-up would be an OPTIONAL setting because some folks might >consider setting these fields as a pain, but some of us would find it >helpful. (Yes, I have put in a formal suggestion for this.) > >Bob > >On 05/27/2012 02:21, Tony Rolfe wrote: >> I have just discovered a census image with a couple who have been >> married for 3 years. In the family is a 4-year-old adopted son whose >> surname is the same as the wife's maiden name. >> >> it appears likely that the wife had this child out of wedlock (although >> he may have been a brother's child etc.) and so I have added him as an >> unlinked individual and then added the wife as a mother, giving an >> unknown father. >> >> So, How do I now add him as an adopted son to the husband who may or may >> not be the father? At this stage I will assume he is not the father, so >> I want to keep the unknown father and add the husband as a second >> father. Is this possible? >> >> Thanks for any advice >> >> Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to show adopted son
* Add the child to both parents. * right click on that child (or any child of the parents for that matter) * Click on Children's settings in the pop-up menu * Make sure the correct child is highlighted in the resulting pop-up window * Change the "Relationship to father" to ADOPTED * NOTE - you normally would NOT use the "Child status" to show adopted (I did this originally). Instead, use the "Relationship to xxx" fields to indicate it individually for each parent. * I wish there was an option for this field to pop up automatically when a child was added (just like when we add a marriage the marriage detail screen shows up). That way we would remember to set this stuff. By default, the relationship is set to BLANK (i.e. - to NOTHING). I say the auto-pop-up would be an OPTIONAL setting because some folks might consider setting these fields as a pain, but some of us would find it helpful. (Yes, I have put in a formal suggestion for this.) Bob On 05/27/2012 02:21, Tony Rolfe wrote: > I have just discovered a census image with a couple who have been > married for 3 years. In the family is a 4-year-old adopted son whose > surname is the same as the wife's maiden name. > > it appears likely that the wife had this child out of wedlock (although > he may have been a brother's child etc.) and so I have added him as an > unlinked individual and then added the wife as a mother, giving an > unknown father. > > So, How do I now add him as an adopted son to the husband who may or may > not be the father? At this stage I will assume he is not the father, so > I want to keep the unknown father and add the husband as a second > father. Is this possible? > > Thanks for any advice > > Tony > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to show adopted son
I have just discovered a census image with a couple who have been married for 3 years. In the family is a 4-year-old adopted son whose surname is the same as the wife's maiden name. it appears likely that the wife had this child out of wedlock (although he may have been a brother's child etc.) and so I have added him as an unlinked individual and then added the wife as a mother, giving an unknown father. So, How do I now add him as an adopted son to the husband who may or may not be the father? At this stage I will assume he is not the father, so I want to keep the unknown father and add the husband as a second father. Is this possible? Thanks for any advice Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
