RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
I am sorry if I came across wrong. Since in my family I have one 3rd cousin, that is also my 7th cousin (no siblings), and he married my 5th cousin on a different line. And other examples. Also, my adopted children are descended from Charlemange 47 different paths and counting. I just never have considered noting each of the multiple paths, other than through the Legacy program. Thank you for this gem of an idea. I will now think about this. rICH IN la ca --- On Sun, 9/18/11, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: From: Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, September 18, 2011, 12:53 PM Jerry, I would recommend that you continue making a note of cousin marriages, although some didn't see the point of your question, I definitely do. I suspected that one of my ancestors in particular had married first cousins, and it took me ten (10) long years of research before I was able to prove with empirical evidence that the marriage took place. Many may think that was silly of me and a waste of time, however, the point of proving the marriage was that it connected a line of descendants, from that marriage, to the source ancestor. If it was not for the proof of that marriage, I would still be guessing at the connection, and their ancestors. That single connection allowed me to follow the ancestry back to England from which they immigrated. For those that think this is not important, Sir Admiral Nicholas Haddock, and his father Sir Richard Haddock portraits can both be viewed at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Both served in the British Royal Navy. So by all means please make a note. Those that don't may regret it later. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
On 2011/09/19 01:36, Charles Apple wrote: Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offence on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. And sometimes, people don't write what they think they've written :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Thank you Mike for pointing that out, that is definitely a welcomed addition. Charles -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins On 2011/09/19 01:36, Charles Apple wrote: Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offence on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. And sometimes, people don't write what they think they've written :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
I encountered this just yesterday. If you don't mind sharing, what does your text include, just a simple note saying they were 2nd cousins? If it helps, in this case, the married folks are 2nd cousins to each other. However, to me they are either [1/2 1st cousin once removed and wife] or [husband and 2nd cousin] I guess Legacy chooses shortest path or something, but it seems to prefer wife of 1/2 1st cousin over a whole 2nd cousin. IIRC, I can chose which I'd prefer. What do you chose and why? Is there a way to somehow use Legacy to point out if I have others in my file like this? I've not found anything that makes this apparent in the UI, reports or charts. How would I go about finding any others? Thanks jc On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: Thank you Mike for pointing that out, that is definitely a welcomed addition. Charles -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins On 2011/09/19 01:36, Charles Apple wrote: Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offence on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. And sometimes, people don't write what they think they've written :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
James, James, I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my particular case, there was such a ferocious legal battle that occurred, that none of the descendants ever spoke of it again. After the first and second generations were deceased, none of the descendants had any knowledge of who they were related to or where they came from. It is not so much the fact they were related as cousins, brothers, sisters, etc., however, by having that knowledge, it will focus you in the direction of your research efforts, such as court documents. I only enter the husband and wife's relationship to each other, and not to me. For their relationship to me, I rely on the standard Legacy set relations feature. My reasoning is that I believe that it will add a potential layer of confusion. I have never done a search for those individuals that may be related in a way other than marriage. Perhaps someone on the LUG will respond to your question that is more experienced with this aspect of Legacy than I am. I address each individual as I get to them, and specifically prove a relationship, other than marriage, when it is warranted, or a question exists as to the relationship. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Just my two cents worth, Charles -Original Message- From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I encountered this just yesterday. If you don't mind sharing, what does your text include, just a simple note saying they were 2nd cousins? If it helps, in this case, the married folks are 2nd cousins to each other. However, to me they are either [1/2 1st cousin once removed and wife] or [husband and 2nd cousin] I guess Legacy chooses shortest path or something, but it seems to prefer wife of 1/2 1st cousin over a whole 2nd cousin. IIRC, I can chose which I'd prefer. What do you chose and why? Is there a way to somehow use Legacy to point out if I have others in my file like this? I've not found anything that makes this apparent in the UI, reports or charts. How would I go about finding any others? Thanks jc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
I only added how they related to each other, but I'm going to go back and add the common ancestor(s) as well. Though I have a hard time stopping myself from looking for additional work, in this case I asked because the couple in question were only obvious to me because I encountered the husband in multiple contexts during the same research session. I'm not at all sure I would have caught it if I'd have slept between the encounters. Perhaps I'd eventually discovered two guys with same names and dates in my file and make the connection that way. It was more from thinking about keeping my data clean than coming up with more work. Anyway, thanks for the info. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
But Legacy does have a way to search for duplicate individuals, right? So, you could find that a couple is related when you've entered the same person two places in your tree. But there's not a way to easily find out that a couple is related to each other outside their marriage. (if I've been following this thread correctly) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: James Cook jc1...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I only added how they related to each other, but I'm going to go back and add the common ancestor(s) as well. Though I have a hard time stopping myself from looking for additional work, in this case I asked because the couple in question were only obvious to me because I encountered the husband in multiple contexts during the same research session. I'm not at all sure I would have caught it if I'd have slept between the encounters. Perhaps I'd eventually discovered two guys with same names and dates in my file and make the connection that way. It was more from thinking about keeping my data clean than coming up with more work. Anyway, thanks for the info. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
When I chart in Legacy Charting Companion, married cousins are indicated by an X. The descendant line continues only for one marriage. That may be a method of finding married cousins. Jacob On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote: But Legacy does have a way to search for duplicate individuals, right? So, you could find that a couple is related when you've entered the same person two places in your tree. But there's not a way to easily find out that a couple is related to each other outside their marriage. (if I've been following this thread correctly) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: James Cook jc1...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I only added how they related to each other, but I'm going to go back and add the common ancestor(s) as well. Though I have a hard time stopping myself from looking for additional work, in this case I asked because the couple in question were only obvious to me because I encountered the husband in multiple contexts during the same research session. I'm not at all sure I would have caught it if I'd have slept between the encounters. Perhaps I'd eventually discovered two guys with same names and dates in my file and make the connection that way. It was more from thinking about keeping my data clean than coming up with more work. Anyway, thanks for the info. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
I just noticed that with two known examples where the husband and wife are related to one another, where it states their relationship to me, in all four instances there is a + symbol following the relationship. Is this Legacy's way to denote that these individuals are related to one another??? Virginia On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I only added how they related to each other, but I'm going to go back and add the common ancestor(s) as well. Though I have a hard time stopping myself from looking for additional work, in this case I asked because the couple in question were only obvious to me because I encountered the husband in multiple contexts during the same research session. I'm not at all sure I would have caught it if I'd have slept between the encounters. Perhaps I'd eventually discovered two guys with same names and dates in my file and make the connection that way. It was more from thinking about keeping my data clean than coming up with more work. Anyway, thanks for the info. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
The plus symbol behind the relationship above the name indicates that there are other relationships to the main individual whom you've based relationships on. Right click on the relationship and select View Additional Relationships. This brings up the Relationship Calculator and you can see all the relationships you have to that individual. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Virginia Dunham geistdn...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed that with two known examples where the husband and wife are related to one another, where it states their relationship to me, in all four instances there is a + symbol following the relationship. Is this Legacy's way to denote that these individuals are related to one another??? Virginia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
What is the problem with cousins marrying. In some places and times it has been legal for first cousins to marry. The same goes for siblings marrying. All states have rules for courts giving permission to those otherwise outside of the 'rules'. Finding the court order to approve an otherwise 'illegal' marriage is important. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/17/11, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 8:41 PM Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Some people on the list are way too jumpy. The question has nothing to do with legalities or ethics. What I intended to ask is if anyone creates a simple note as part of a custom event, such as married second cousin. Right now, I do include a very short note, but I use the standard marriage event, not custom. That sounds right to me, especially after seeing your comments. Thanks! cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
My apologies. I re-read my post and realized I did not ask the question quite right. ...Jerry cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
On 18/09/2011 04:41, Jerry wrote: Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? I don't do anything different to what I do for any two people marrying. Why would I? I don't see the point of your question. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I don't write an added note only because you can readily see that the two are related when you look at their parents. I guess if I did a report that I was going to give to someone else I would make a little note stating how the two were related. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Some people on the list are way too jumpy. The question has nothing to do with legalities or ethics. What I intended to ask is if anyone creates a simple note as part of a custom event, such as married second cousin. Right now, I do include a very short note, but I use the standard marriage event, not custom. That sounds right to me, especially after seeing your comments. Thanks! cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3904 - Release Date: 09/18/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Marriage. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 9:11 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 18/09/2011 04:41, Jerry wrote: Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? I don't do anything different to what I do for any two people marrying. Why would I? I don't see the point of your question. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:08:42 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I think it was the way you worded the question. It sounded as if you were questioning whether or not this was a legitimate marriage. Perhaps if you would have asked if others add a notation somewhere documenting this info and how they worded it. Or do they just let others who view their tree figure it out for themselves? Worded this way it is a good question. I think hanging a note somewhere on the marriage mentioning this fact adds something to an otherwise droll family history. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I understand that I didn't word the question well to begin with, but I already apologized before the person sent the grumpy note. But perhaps she did not see my apology. Thanks! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 3:23 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:08:42 -0400, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I think it was the way you worded the question. It sounded as if you were questioning whether or not this was a legitimate marriage. Perhaps if you would have asked if others add a notation somewhere documenting this info and how they worded it. Or do they just let others who view their tree figure it out for themselves? Worded this way it is a good question. I think hanging a note somewhere on the marriage mentioning this fact adds something to an otherwise droll family history. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
There are so many cousin marriages in my families - and then their children might marry a descendant of the same ancestor - I have to instruct the program not to reproduce the lines repeatedly. I never thought of it as cause for a special note. It is interesting that they noted it. On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Sorry for the way I worded the question. There are STANDARD MARRIAGE EVENTS and there are CUSTOM MARRIAGE EVENTS and I was asking if anyone makes a custom marriage event to indicate the relationship. I see that you do not, so that answers my question. I was not creating a custom event either, but I do make a simple note in the standard marriage event. To each his own - I'll try to be more careful from now on in how I word something so I don't get pounced out and get my feelings hurt. But I don't know why it is - some of the regulars on these lists can also be the most grumpy, but maybe that's because you get tired of answering stupid questions from us non-pros, I don't know. Now I'll shut up! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 9:43 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: Marriage. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
In response to Jerry, at times I do add such notes because I am a family reunion historian where there are MANY marriages to cousins due to living in a geographically isolated area. People in the family are always asking me to give them the exact relationship, and I have even presented charts given talks about double cousins...it can get complicated. DebraNC - Original Message - From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Some people on the list are way too jumpy. The question has nothing to do with legalities or ethics. What I intended to ask is if anyone creates a simple note as part of a custom event, such as married second cousin. Right now, I do include a very short note, but I use the standard marriage event, not custom. That sounds right to me, especially after seeing your comments. Thanks! cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Jerry, I would recommend that you continue making a note of cousin marriages, although some didn't see the point of your question, I definitely do. I suspected that one of my ancestors in particular had married first cousins, and it took me ten (10) long years of research before I was able to prove with empirical evidence that the marriage took place. Many may think that was silly of me and a waste of time, however, the point of proving the marriage was that it connected a line of descendants, from that marriage, to the source ancestor. If it was not for the proof of that marriage, I would still be guessing at the connection, and their ancestors. That single connection allowed me to follow the ancestry back to England from which they immigrated. For those that think this is not important, Sir Admiral Nicholas Haddock, and his father Sir Richard Haddock portraits can both be viewed at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Both served in the British Royal Navy. So by all means please make a note. Those that don't may regret it later. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks Charles. I appreciate that information. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 3:53 PM, Charles Apple wrote: Jerry, I would recommend that you continue making a note of cousin marriages, although some didn't see the point of your question, I definitely do. I suspected that one of my ancestors in particular had married first cousins, and it took me ten (10) long years of research before I was able to prove with empirical evidence that the marriage took place. Many may think that was silly of me and a waste of time, however, the point of proving the marriage was that it connected a line of descendants, from that marriage, to the source ancestor. If it was not for the proof of that marriage, I would still be guessing at the connection, and their ancestors. That single connection allowed me to follow the ancestry back to England from which they immigrated. For those that think this is not important, Sir Admiral Nicholas Haddock, and his father Sir Richard Haddock portraits can both be viewed at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Both served in the British Royal Navy. So by all means please make a note. Those that don't may regret it later. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks Debra. Your email just came to me, somehow got out of order. Thanks for the comment. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 3:06 PM, Debra Newton-Carter wrote: In response to Jerry, at times I do add such notes because I am a family reunion historian where there are MANY marriages to cousins due to living in a geographically isolated area. People in the family are always asking me to give them the exact relationship, and I have even presented charts given talks about double cousins...it can get complicated. DebraNC - Original Message - From: Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Some people on the list are way too jumpy. The question has nothing to do with legalities or ethics. What I intended to ask is if anyone creates a simple note as part of a custom event, such as married second cousin. Right now, I do include a very short note, but I use the standard marriage event, not custom. That sounds right to me, especially after seeing your comments. Thanks! cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Let me put a little humor on this - I once handed some family group sheets to a cousin who knew little of our family (and the many cousin marriages). She was trying to look and after a while I saw her screwing up her face on one particular sheet. She had found one man who had married a cousin with the same name as his sister. Not only that, but the cousin and sister had been born in the same year. It took awhile to explain that No, he did not marry his sister. I now include cousin references in my marriage material and I include it in the notes to the standard marriage. Jackie On 9/18/2011 3:01 PM, Jerry wrote: Thanks Debra. Your email just came to me, somehow got out of order. Thanks for the comment. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 3:06 PM, Debra Newton-Carter wrote: In response to Jerry, at times I do add such notes because I am a family reunion historian where there are MANY marriages to cousins due to living in a geographically isolated area. People in the family are always asking me to give them the exact relationship, and I have even presented charts given talks about double cousins...it can get complicated. DebraNC - Original Message - From: Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Some people on the list are way too jumpy. The question has nothing to do with legalities or ethics. What I intended to ask is if anyone creates a simple note as part of a custom event, such as married second cousin. Right now, I do include a very short note, but I use the standard marriage event, not custom. That sounds right to me, especially after seeing your comments. Thanks! cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: I don't do anything different at all. I have many cousin marriages. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 18/09/2011 20:08, Jerry wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I was certainly not grumpy. I was simply being honest. You asked if I did something. I replied that I did not and could not see why you would ask such a question. You in turn have given a reason for asking. Good, we both have our answers; that's what this list is for. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks Jenny. I can accept that. Now we can both go and fry our bigger fish. Thanks! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 6:14 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 18/09/2011 20:08, Jerry wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I was certainly not grumpy. I was simply being honest. You asked if I did something. I replied that I did not and could not see why you would ask such a question. You in turn have given a reason for asking. Good, we both have our answers; that's what this list is for. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Jerry, Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offense on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Thanks Jenny. I can accept that. Now we can both go and fry our bigger fish. Thanks! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 6:14 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 18/09/2011 20:08, Jerry wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I was certainly not grumpy. I was simply being honest. You asked if I did something. I replied that I did not and could not see why you would ask such a question. You in turn have given a reason for asking. Good, we both have our answers; that's what this list is for. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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In earlier centuries marriage to cousins was not only common but accepted. I have several ancestors of mine from the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries that did this. I just included them as a standard married couple. Dean Adams -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3902 - Release Date: 09/17/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3902 - Release Date: 09/17/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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What else could it be but a marriage. I have two generations of the same family that married first cousins and this was in the 19th and 20th Century and was acceptable in those days. I must admit the second generation did not have any children due to pressure from an Aunt! Colin. - Original Message - From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Just curious what some of you might do to document marriages between cousins. Do you create a marriage event, and if so, what do you call that event? Thanks for your suggestions. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
