Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-15 Thread 2marion wimps
Hi Dennis,

The changes are in the file I have relinked so nothing is making sense.

I have now made five new files and restored the last five backups - I
got to backup no 3 before the photos were all correct - back to one on
the 11th. What I am now doing is checking changes between restores 1,
2 and 3 to see what changes I have made and entering them on to the
one that has all the photos attached. So it seems that out of three
backups in the past week only one has the photos attached correctly.
Naturally any files I have attached since backup 3 are not attached
but I will do those manually - much easier than re-attaching all the
photos.

Thank you for all the help - I have no idea what happened - I can't
backup much more than I have done - I am thinking of deleting all
backups apart from the last month itself in case I have problems
again!

Regards, Marion

On 14 December 2011 22:01, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:40:11 +0800, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Now it seems I either have the choice of relinking all the photos or
taking an old file and working out all the changes I have made (which
are reasonably numerous)

 I would double check to see if those changes are even in the file you
 are relinking. If the paths to the multimedia are incorrect, that tells
 me you restored from an ancient backup for some reason.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-15 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:00:05 +0800, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com
wrote:

The changes are in the file I have relinked so nothing is making sense.

The only other thing I can think of is that for some reason you OPENED a
6 month old .fdb in Legacy, added some data, and backed it up thinking
you were working on a newer .fdb. But it is truly impossible for just
one table in a .fdb to revert to an old state without ALL other tables
reverting also.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-15 Thread 2marion wimps
I have the prompt for backups each time I exist and both data and
multimedia are backed up every other session, which is about every
second or third day.

Cannot quite see how I would open a 6 month old file - Legacy opens
the same file each time, and there are only four files in the Database
- all four with different names for different reasons - one is
unrelated names, two others are for completely different family names.
I don't often open the other three but work on the main one, mostly
every day, so I have no idea.

I have now deleted all the trial and restore versions and all backups
more than 4 months old. I shall have to check the external backup hard
drive and see what was saved to that as the whole computer was backed
up four days ago as well!!!

Marion


On 15 December 2011 21:37, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2011 8:26 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:00:05 +0800, 2marion wimps2wi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The changes are in the file I have relinked so nothing is making sense.

 The only other thing I can think of is that for some reason you OPENED a
 6 month old .fdb in Legacy, added some data, and backed it up thinking
 you were working on a newer .fdb. But it is truly impossible for just
 one table in a .fdb to revert to an old state without ALL other tables
 reverting also.

 A thought occurred to me.  If she has not been backing up her multimedia
 with her regular backups then the paths might still reflect what was on
 her OLD computer, before she got the new one.  A possibility.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-14 Thread 2marion wimps
Dennis, The backup I used was two days old. I backup every other time
I use Legacy - which is about every third day so in any given month
there are at least 10 - 12 backups. Occasionally I will go in and
delete some of the very old backups so the drive doesn't get too
clogged,

Paul, When I change computers naturally the photo path didn't link so
I went in and re-linked every single photo and file by hand after
some discussion with the LUG. Since that time everything has been fine
and each photo was linked to the E drive where the files are all held.

Richard, Yes I realise now that keeping photos in a file away from the
Legacy file is not a good idea but when I started many moons ago it
seemed a good idea at the time and since then the files have grown so
much that it didn't seem like a good idea to try and transfer them
all. Knowledge comes with time!
I haven't been able to check if the new folders I have inserted are
showing (memory is my problem here!!!) but

. the restore I did was from 11 12 12 - I have nothing prior to
the changeover in the backups that I can see as a restore. I have just
gone in and opened up a new file (with a new name) and then restored
from 04 12 12 - and lo and behold all of the pictures are there. The
only backup I have on my computer from the old computer is back in
April 2011 - that is the link to the old photos but why would a
restore from the 11 12 11 pick up a file back from April - it has
never done this before. I have just restored two more from different
dates and they seem to be fine.

Now it seems I either have the choice of relinking all the photos or
taking an old file and working out all the changes I have made (which
are reasonably numerous)

Thank you for all of your help, it is greatly appreciated (I don't
want to do a separate email at the end thanking eveyone - I find it
aggravating to open a possible interesting email and find it just says
thank you)

Marion


On 14 December 2011 01:42, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Following Richard's suggestion, when you go to Options  Customize 
 Locations  View Current List
 how many paths are shown?  I'm no sure, but changing each of these paths MAY
 fix your problem.
 But making sure your did use a current backup would be my first suggestion.

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova
 rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Keeping multimedia under My Documents is not recommended due to
 difficulty in transferring from one computer to another. Did you ever
 see your multimedia on the new computer?
 You should go to Options  Customize  Locations  View Current List
 of Multimedia Locations and change each one or better yet use Search
 and Replace.
 -- Richard Van Wasshnova

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:32 AM, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Dennis,
 
  There are paths that show
 
  \\Pavilion\marion\My Documents\My Pictures\Family Tree (and then the
  folder and sub folders where the files are held)
 
  the problem with this is that Pavilion is the old computer that I used
  to use about 6 months ago.
 
  Then there are paths that show C:\Documents and Settings\Marion\My
  Documents (and repeat the previous folders and different sub folders
  that I have used in the past)
 
  Again these have no relation to this computer. When everything was
  brought over from this computer all of the photos and documents were
  transferred into the E drive, since then there have been numerous
  extra folders and sub folders added to the E drive on this computer. I
  have not checked on these so far (tonight I have just linked all of
  the A's so only another 25 days to go!
 
  Marion


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[LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread 2marion wimps
I am using Windows 7 Legacy Deluxe v 7.5.0.112. I backup every other
time I use Legacy and yesterday made a mess of some entries so I
decided to restore the files from the previous backup (as I have done
before if really necessary).

This time I restored, went to my pictures for something and the
dreaded ? mark is on all of the pictures. My photos are stored on my E
drive in folders and sub folders, Legacy and backups are stored on the
C drive, and the only time I have had this problem before was when I
was moving from one computer to another.

I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
are, but under the Picture Sound Sideo and Files the location to look
for the files is correct for the E drive.

When I tell Legacy to check for the picture file itself it doesn’t
search in the correct location but under a location that is a sub
folder under the E drive that is not actually used in Legacy
Apart from going through the whole picture file again and searching
for the pictures myself is there something else I can do?

I have done a File Maintenance and that has not changed anything.

Before I sit down for two or three days and manually find all the
files is there anything else I can do please???

Many thanks in advance.

Marion


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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marion,

You only need to go to one picture from each of your picture folders,
provided that you do not have duplicated file names. i find that the best
way is to go to one of the pictures with the '?' on it, select that one and
opt to search for the file yourself, go to the file and click 'Open'. All
files in that folder should now be found.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: 2marion wimps
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

I am using Windows 7 Legacy Deluxe v 7.5.0.112. I backup every other
time I use Legacy and yesterday made a mess of some entries so I
decided to restore the files from the previous backup (as I have done
before if really necessary).

This time I restored, went to my pictures for something and the
dreaded ? mark is on all of the pictures. My photos are stored on my E
drive in folders and sub folders, Legacy and backups are stored on the
C drive, and the only time I have had this problem before was when I
was moving from one computer to another.

I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
are, but under the Picture Sound Sideo and Files the location to look
for the files is correct for the E drive.

When I tell Legacy to check for the picture file itself it doesn’t
search in the correct location but under a location that is a sub
folder under the E drive that is not actually used in Legacy
Apart from going through the whole picture file again and searching
for the pictures myself is there something else I can do?

I have done a File Maintenance and that has not changed anything.

Before I sit down for two or three days and manually find all the
files is there anything else I can do please???

Many thanks in advance.

Marion



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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread 2marion wimps
Thanks Ron,

Sadly I have folders for each family with several same named sub
folders (Documents, Photos, Census, Misc) under each one! I set it up
years and a quarter ago and have never been able to face changing the
system, which is why I had to do the pictures sub folder by sub folder
when I orginally moved computers.

I still can't work out why the picture location would have changed
when I just restored from a previous backup - I've done this before
and haven't had the problem! I also can't work out why Legacy won't
look in the location when it is told to search and the link is shown
as the E drive.

Marion

On 13 December 2011 17:21, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Marion,

 You only need to go to one picture from each of your picture folders,
 provided that you do not have duplicated file names. i find that the best
 way is to go to one of the pictures with the '?' on it, select that one and
 opt to search for the file yourself, go to the file and click 'Open'. All
 files in that folder should now be found.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: 2marion wimps
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:02 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

 I am using Windows 7 Legacy Deluxe v 7.5.0.112. I backup every other
 time I use Legacy and yesterday made a mess of some entries so I
 decided to restore the files from the previous backup (as I have done
 before if really necessary).

 This time I restored, went to my pictures for something and the
 dreaded ? mark is on all of the pictures. My photos are stored on my E
 drive in folders and sub folders, Legacy and backups are stored on the
 C drive, and the only time I have had this problem before was when I
 was moving from one computer to another.

 I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
 Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
 are, but under the Picture Sound Sideo and Files the location to look
 for the files is correct for the E drive.

 When I tell Legacy to check for the picture file itself it doesn’t
 search in the correct location but under a location that is a sub
 folder under the E drive that is not actually used in Legacy
 Apart from going through the whole picture file again and searching
 for the pictures myself is there something else I can do?

 I have done a File Maintenance and that has not changed anything.

 Before I sit down for two or three days and manually find all the
 files is there anything else I can do please???

 Many thanks in advance.

 Marion




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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marion,

You are correct in saying that restoring your Family File should have had no
effect on the links with you pictures etc., and I have no idea why this
should have happened. As far as the the picture locations are concerned, I
take it that you are referring to CustomiseOtherLocations; I have only
ever regarded these as the default setting for telling the program where to
start when registering a new file. To be honest I have never found it to be
particularly useful, and generally do not bother with it.

I am afraid that I know of no other option other than the suggestion which I
have already made.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: 2marion wimps
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

Thanks Ron,

Sadly I have folders for each family with several same named sub
folders (Documents, Photos, Census, Misc) under each one! I set it up
years and a quarter ago and have never been able to face changing the
system, which is why I had to do the pictures sub folder by sub folder
when I orginally moved computers.

I still can't work out why the picture location would have changed
when I just restored from a previous backup - I've done this before
and haven't had the problem! I also can't work out why Legacy won't
look in the location when it is told to search and the link is shown
as the E drive.

Marion

On 13 December 2011 17:21, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Marion,

 You only need to go to one picture from each of your picture folders,
 provided that you do not have duplicated file names. i find that the best
 way is to go to one of the pictures with the '?' on it, select that one
 and
 opt to search for the file yourself, go to the file and click 'Open'. All
 files in that folder should now be found.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: 2marion wimps
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:02 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

 I am using Windows 7 Legacy Deluxe v 7.5.0.112. I backup every other
 time I use Legacy and yesterday made a mess of some entries so I
 decided to restore the files from the previous backup (as I have done
 before if really necessary).

 This time I restored, went to my pictures for something and the
 dreaded ? mark is on all of the pictures. My photos are stored on my E
 drive in folders and sub folders, Legacy and backups are stored on the
 C drive, and the only time I have had this problem before was when I
 was moving from one computer to another.

 I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
 Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
 are, but under the Picture Sound Sideo and Files the location to look
 for the files is correct for the E drive.

 When I tell Legacy to check for the picture file itself it doesn’t
 search in the correct location but under a location that is a sub
 folder under the E drive that is not actually used in Legacy
 Apart from going through the whole picture file again and searching
 for the pictures myself is there something else I can do?

 I have done a File Maintenance and that has not changed anything.

 Before I sit down for two or three days and manually find all the
 files is there anything else I can do please???

 Many thanks in advance.

 Marion




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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:50 +0800, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com
wrote:

I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
are

Can you give us an example of how they don't line up?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread 2marion wimps
Hi Dennis,

There are paths that show

\\Pavilion\marion\My Documents\My Pictures\Family Tree (and then the
folder and sub folders where the files are held)

the problem with this is that Pavilion is the old computer that I used
to use about 6 months ago.

Then there are paths that show C:\Documents and Settings\Marion\My
Documents (and repeat the previous folders and different sub folders
that I have used in the past)

Again these have no relation to this computer. When everything was
brought over from this computer all of the photos and documents were
transferred into the E drive, since then there have been numerous
extra folders and sub folders added to the E drive on this computer. I
have not checked on these so far (tonight I have just linked all of
the A's so only another 25 days to go!

Marion

On 13 December 2011 20:11, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:50 +0800, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

I have gone to Options/Customise/Locations/View Current List of
Multimedia Locations and none of the paths line up with where my files
are

 Can you give us an example of how they don't line up?

 --

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:50 +0800, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com
wrote:

I am using Windows 7 Legacy Deluxe v 7.5.0.112. I backup every other
time I use Legacy and yesterday made a mess of some entries so I
decided to restore the files from the previous backup (as I have done
before if really necessary).

This time I restored, went to my pictures for something and the
dreaded ?

How old was the backup you used? In another post you said that the
folders you are now seeing look like they were from your previous
computer (6 months ago). If you have since backed up on your new
computer you should be seeing the new paths. It sounds like you have
used an ancient backup to restore from ... unless you only backup once
every 6 months.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Gray

Hi Marion,

You said:

Again these have no relation to this computer. When everything was brought over 
from this computer all of the photos and documents were transferred into the E 
drive, since then there have been numerous extra folders and sub folders added 
to the E drive on this computer.


When you got the new computer and moved all of the pictures to the E: Drive, 
what did you do to change all of the multimedia paths to the E drive?

If you didn't do anything, perhaps all of the old paths have been 'out of date' 
all along. Yes, you would have correct links to anything you have linked since 
you moved to the new computer, but existing paths would not have changed unless 
you took some specific action to do so.

Paul Gray



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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Keeping multimedia under My Documents is not recommended due to
difficulty in transferring from one computer to another. Did you ever
see your multimedia on the new computer?
You should go to Options  Customize  Locations  View Current List
of Multimedia Locations and change each one or better yet use Search
and Replace.
-- Richard Van Wasshnova

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:32 AM, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Dennis,

 There are paths that show

 \\Pavilion\marion\My Documents\My Pictures\Family Tree (and then the
 folder and sub folders where the files are held)

 the problem with this is that Pavilion is the old computer that I used
 to use about 6 months ago.

 Then there are paths that show C:\Documents and Settings\Marion\My
 Documents (and repeat the previous folders and different sub folders
 that I have used in the past)

 Again these have no relation to this computer. When everything was
 brought over from this computer all of the photos and documents were
 transferred into the E drive, since then there have been numerous
 extra folders and sub folders added to the E drive on this computer. I
 have not checked on these so far (tonight I have just linked all of
 the A's so only another 25 days to go!

 Marion


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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Links - assistance required please.

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Jones
Following Richard's suggestion, when you go to Options  Customize 
Locations  View Current List
how many paths are shown?  I'm no sure, but changing each of these paths
MAY fix your problem.
But making sure your did use a current backup would be my first suggestion.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova 
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Keeping multimedia under My Documents is not recommended due to
 difficulty in transferring from one computer to another. Did you ever
 see your multimedia on the new computer?
 You should go to Options  Customize  Locations  View Current List
 of Multimedia Locations and change each one or better yet use Search
 and Replace.
 -- Richard Van Wasshnova

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:32 AM, 2marion wimps 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Dennis,
 
  There are paths that show
 
  \\Pavilion\marion\My Documents\My Pictures\Family Tree (and then the
  folder and sub folders where the files are held)
 
  the problem with this is that Pavilion is the old computer that I used
  to use about 6 months ago.
 
  Then there are paths that show C:\Documents and Settings\Marion\My
  Documents (and repeat the previous folders and different sub folders
  that I have used in the past)
 
  Again these have no relation to this computer. When everything was
  brought over from this computer all of the photos and documents were
  transferred into the E drive, since then there have been numerous
  extra folders and sub folders added to the E drive on this computer. I
  have not checked on these so far (tonight I have just linked all of
  the A's so only another 25 days to go!
 
  Marion


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